i apologize for the short nature of our chat. [laughter] 21,000 national guard troops at the ready to make sure it is a peaceful inauguration, and stays that way for the days after. historic, i hope, peaceful times. here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello. i'm jesse watters, along with juan williams, dana perino. it is a 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ major developments in big tech, silence and conservatives. parler suing amazon after it was shot down by the tech giant. parler's ceo saying he won't go away quietly, but his warning that taking on silicon valley is a tough task.

>> it is a real threat. we are going to fight and do everything possible to come back, but it could be never. we don't know yet. >> jesse: twitter is defending the crackdown on conservatives, while admitting what it is doing is dangerous. ceo jack dorsey writing "having to take these actions fragment the public conversation, and sets a dangerous precedent i feel is dangerous. the power of an individual or corporation -- the power of an individual or corporation has is a part of the global conversation." a former school consultant telling dana that this wave of censorship could lead to the downfall of social media. -- a former google consultant. >> they now feel accountable. if they are accountable for their content, it's going to lead to a bigger discussion about section 230, their rights

as to whether or not they are publishers. let's be fair. content platforms, they are not built to be publishers. it's going to be the beginning of the end for them, unless they make series decisions and change their business model. >> jesse: do you think this could be the downfall, or is that wishful thinking? >> dana: it was about two month ago during the hunter biden controversy -- well, it's continuing, but when twitter declined to allow "the new york post" to have its story up. i said at the time, this is the beginning of the end of twitter. maybe it was the beginning of the end. i think something is strange with jack dorsey. he is the undercover boss of twitter. [laughter] these things happen, and two days later, he is like "check out this crazy thing! wow!"

[laughter] i think that he doesn't -- maybe he does realize the power of what he's doing, but it is sort of strange that the entire country, maybe the world, is like a social experiment for jack dorsey. i think it is good he is willing to be transparent, even if the thinking is to follow. >> jesse: it is hard to follow, because he just said it sets a dangerous precedent, but katie, he said he is willing to take that step with donald trump. does that make sense to you? >> katie: no. he is saying they are reflecting on the decision they made, doubling down on saying it was right, because of violence they say is talked about on their platform that then has a reality in real life. that may be true, but the question here is what twitter's role is.

they've gotten themselves into this difficult position. they claim they are not a publisher, yet keep banning people who happen to have conservative beliefs, happen to be publishing stories about hunter biden that are true, that jack dorsey admitted under oath he had no evidence to fake. they are trying to put morals onto the platform while also claiming they are not a publisher. i don't know why they just say "in our terms of service, we are not liable for anything said on this platform. speech is not violence. we are not responsible for the behavior of the individual." that's the only way they are going to be able to save themselves. democrats are taking down political ads -- that was facebook. facebook took down political ads, and democrats were like "we want political ads, warranty banning political ads for republicans?

"this does cut both ways. they were mad at facebook for allegedly allowing russians to buy ads on their website. i don't know why they don't just say "our terms of service since we are not responsible for what happens here inside what is said." >> jesse: think it harassed daily by the nincompoops that call them and make them ban people. pete, do you think when jack dorsey enters the room, they play "hail to the chief"? [laughter] this is more powerful than anybody. >> pete: that is the take away that continues to reverberate. a private company that is a part of our civic discourse decided to ban the president of the united states. they used the rationale of saying he wasn't going to go to the inauguration, and the comments underneath it were a bridge too far, so they shut the commander in chief down. i love what dana said. it does feel like jack dorsey's pontificating continuously about

his own company, what they should do in public. he knows right now he's got at least two years in the shield. companies like his have made ongoing contributions to the democratic party, preventing stories like hunter biden, which he came out recently and admitted "my bad, i missed that, shouldn't have censored that," after the election. they note section 230 won't come up under this administration, but they will reap what they sell. jack dorsey is interesting. he is admitting banning is bad. so, banning is bad, but trump is bad, and bad-er. sometimes, a negative must equal a positive. and, the mob wants it, so let them have it. >> jesse: i forget who brought it up the other day, someone brilliant besides myself on this show -- [laughter] >> dana: must have been me -- >> jesse: mentioned all the leaders from right to left, denouncing twitter banning the

president of the united states, the president of mexico, the leader of german sheesh, the aclu is coming out about this. there is widespread condemnation worldwide that this action that twitter took was very bad and dangerous. >> juan: some people have concerns for different reasons, jesse, but to me, this is an important debate, very important for us to have about how do you set the terms for a social media platform in the aftermath of a tremendous episode of violence that shook our nation? i'm all in for having that debate. you know that left and right both have different points of upset with what these social media platforms allow, but i think we are in a historic moment today in the country given what happened last week.

i think they are reacting to it in a sharp manner. the debate is going to have to hold off for a second. today it was announced we were going to have 20,000 troops on the ground here in washington, trying to protect the inauguration. you have 70% of americans say they are not only violent at the inauguration, but state capitals around the country. you have -- today, they had an announcement from the fbi that so many people who were at this event last week are on some sort of domestic terror watch list tied to white supremacy, a majority of them. this is scary stuff. i think the social media platforms are trying to contend with not being complicit in promoting violence that destabilizes our entire country. it's an important debate, but at the moment, we are living through a moments of urgent historical pressure, not only on social media, but all of us.

i think we have to be honest and say "we don't want more violence." >> jesse: he brought up history. if you look at history, states and governments that censor the population -- not a good list to be on. >> juan: i don't think this is the same -- >> jesse: coming up next, why impeachment could backfire and derail biden's agenda big time. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> juan: president -- biden telling congress to focus on two things at the same time. "i hope they will deal with their constitutional responsibilities on impeachment while also working on the other urgent business of this nation." there are concerns on impeachment trial could slow down biden's ambitious agenda. we are getting details of his new covid stimulus plan, a $2 trillion price tag. it includes a new round of $1400 stimulus checks, buildings for testing and vaccines, and $350 billion more for state and local governments. jesse, what do you think of this? the newly elected president wants to get some business done. he saying that both can be done at the same time.

is that realistic? >> jesse: no. he has already been emasculated by nancy and chuck. this is the guy that won more votes than anybody in american history, and he's hoping that these two politicians can get around the passing of his agenda? he just won. act like you won, joe. throw your political weight around. why are you begging these two politicians that have approval ratings in the low '30s if they cannot pretty please get around to doing what you campaigned on, which is covid and economic relief? there are three reasons he's been so weak on this. dana likes lists in threes, so we will make her happy. joe biden is an institutionalist at heart. he spent his whole career in the senate and has great deference for congress. he believes that coequal branches of government -- he doesn't care if his agenda clashes with the will of

congress. the guys arranged part of seven. he plays off like there's a big, but deep down, he's got a partisan streak. he went after flynn, and clarence thomas, wants to put blacks in chains, said that he called republicans not seize the other day. he wants trump impeached. he doesn't care. number three, joe biden is an insecure man. he doesn't have the leadership skills to be the commander in chief. he plagiarized his way through life, got lucky when obama tapped him as vp, then got luckier when covid knocked trump off the scene, and corporate america dragged him across the finish line. this is the go along get along guy. i don't think he has what it takes. >> juan: today's unemployment numbers reached a high we

haven't seen since august. was joe biden right to say we need to spur this economy to help people? it seems that when you talk about the big money he's going to propose spending tonight, many would say that's great. others might say that's socialist. >> dana: there were a few republicans who wanted to spend more than that, in terms of checks, right before the georgia runoff. several republicans said let's go for $2,000. the president said yes. if i were joe biden, i would be like "you guys are joining me, right? "he's probably more skillful than at jesse's giving him credit for. he did beat those other democrats in order to get to the white house. he's got a team around him that's worked on this stuff for years. i was curious about the timing of tonight's speech.

7:00 is a weird time. we will maybe learn is to why they wanted to do it at that time. it's dinner our in some places, and other people aren't home. i think he realizes that he doesn't have a 60 democrats like obama. he's only got 50. he has got to figure out a way to get around that. president trump has had a bad news cycle. i don't know why as biden you would want to get in the middle of that. all of a sudden, everybody can start focusing on him. nothing will unite the republicans like having something to go against. this relief bill might be what the country needs. i'm willing to listen to what they think about it, especially about vaccine distribution. >> juan: pete, i think a lot of people would say "go to, let's see some leadership from joe biden right now,

president trump has been off the stage." the problem for biden, maybe he doesn't have a cabinet. he may not have acting people for justice, defense, homeland security. is that going to be a problem? >> pete: he's only making networks for himself. consider that tweet. he talked about the impeachment, and oh, by the way, my stuff on the side. this guy spent 400 years in the senate. he knows how the senate works. jesse made the point yesterday. the senate doesn't work dual-track, we will work on this over here and work on joe biden's agenda. it doesn't work that way. they have a 50/50 margin. if biden wanted to show leadership, he would call up nancy pelosi, not sending the articles over. "i'm the president now, here is

my agenda, we have got to address covid." he won't do it, because he is beholden to the rage of the left, which was more about hating trump than liking biden. the only thing i would disagree on jesse on as i don't think biden has as much political capital as we think. so much of why people supported him is because they couldn't stand trump. it wasn't necessarily "joe biden is mike guy because of... "what again? >> juan: a lot of people are discussing mitch mcconnell's position, the senate majority leader, republican. he is not bringing the senate back. if he did, you could start things earlier, especially in terms of cabinet nominees. he said no. what do you think? >> dana: the mitch mcconnell ploy, it was reported he was furious with president trump, and that's why he may be interested in impeachment. it's obvious to me that he is looking at this and a political

sense. he's still going to be in the senate as a minority leader. this pushes back joe biden's agenda significantly. he is saying "chuck schumer, if you want to do impeachment, we are happy to sit by and wait to confirm any judges, cabinet officials." i don't know why joe biden wouldn't tell nancy pelosi and chuck schumer "we need to stop this impeachment. if you have done in the house, it's going nowhere. you don't have the votes to convict him." let's get rid of trump and move on. instead, they have to do with trump again. >> juan: coming up next, a cnn host questions the patriotism of a g.o.p. congressman who is a disabled war veteran. plus, aoc says congress needs to reign in misinformation. coming up for you on "the five." ♪ ♪

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start by reining in comments like these. jake tapper blasted for questioning disabled veteran g.o.p. congressman patriotism, for imposing impeachment. >> congressman brian mast, a republican from florida, who lost his legs fighting for democracy abroad, although i don't know about his commitment to it here in the united states. >> katie: tapper later tweeted that the senator is a hero, but stood by his criticism. i want to get to aoc first, then jake tapper and the congressman. should we look at aoc's endless instagram story feeds that she does, instagram lives, for misinformation -- >> jesse: i would hate to be in charge of aoc's instagram all day. no thanks. when she says she wants to reign in, that means she wants to

regulate conservative speech on talk radio, the internet, and television. has anybody checked when the last time a government had to destroy people's individual rights in order to protect them? doesn't usually go well. does she want politicians, paid liars, to decide what's true and what's not true russian mark when have liberals trusted the government? you are saying after vietnam, the wnd fiasco, the dossier, the "china virus," you want the feds telling you what you can say and what truth is and what truth is in? what this is really about as she is trying to basically obliterate any competition in the political communication world. she has power now, and she wants to strip it away from conservatives while she has the chance. she is dangerous, because her instincts are that of a control

freak. that scares me. >> katie: juan, you have had a career as a journalist. fact-check, not sure. just kidding. [laughter] you have had a long career as a journalist, juan, who has believed in free speech. what do you think about aoc's? >> juan: i'm a big believer in free speech. what she was talking about was misinformation. a lot of people are concerned about the idea that the lie that the election was stolen -- people will believe that. even after you have conservative judges and the attorney general, a trump nominee, saying "that didn't happen," you still had this said by some provocateurs, and you think "why is there misinformation being fed to people?" this was not a speech delivered on the floor of the congress. this was something on a feed.

i think republicans love aoc, but she is not the leader of the house, leader of the democrats in the house, the senate. she is not the leader of the biden administration. she's not in the biden administration. aoc is fascinating, but she is not a powerful figure in that regard. >> katie: she is a government official -- i want to get to the congressman. we have this controversy of jake tapper at cnn accusing him of sedition. let's listen to the senator respond. >> i'm going to say to mr. tapper what half of america is saying. hold me to a high standard. don't hold me to a double standard. me asking if any of these lawmakers that are about to vote have gone through any questioning, and hearings, and asked any questions of anybody, that is an appropriate question. it speaks to the foundation of

our democracy, it doesn't diminish it. >> katie: pete, over tia. >> pete: brian mast took the high road. the larger question is, who fact checks the fact-checkers? would you like to live in a world where the media is controlled by conservatives, and if someone makes an argument about socialism, we say "no it doesn't?" there's a gray zone with misinformation. when you look at wants to choose, it's going to be people like jake tapper who want to be the choosers. that's not how the first amendment works. the first amendment's free speech, people to express their opinions, whether you like it or not, whether it makes you feel uncomfortable. you engage with it and defeat bad speech with better speech. jake tapper, he's a delicate flower, a sensitive man, thin skinned. all of you are going to get a text after this from jake tapper saying "why did you go after me,

i'm a nice guy. brian mast is misunderstood. i'm the good guy." he's delicate. tread lightly with jake. he loved the vets, but if they do anything he doesn't like politically, because he is a partisan, than they might be treasonous. >> katie: the first amendment explicitly says congress shall make no law against the freedom of the press. yet, here we are. >> dana: the founding fathers were so smart, so forward thinking, wise. many of them were only in their early 30s. they put the freedom of the press in the first amendment, first for a reason, freedom of speech, first for a reason. that's a principle we have held for the 270 years. when democrats feel they are on the losing end of things, they come up with doctrine. that is something that doesn't

work out well. i would say that when it comes to aoc, the misinformation thing -- i don't know if that is has much about media, but about social media. one of the things that does happen, and we saw this in the social dilemma documentary -- let's just say you might click on something about qanon, and all of a sudden, you get that information into your feet. 70% of adults get their news from social media. track that could be fox news -- fantastic choice -- we will be able to regulate it. we are going to talk about this for a long time. technology has gotten so far ahead of where we were. the best thing is, as pete was saying, don't censor speech, but have more speech and more quality speech. >> katie: more quality speech, coming up next. president-elect joe biden has a revolutionary plan to stop the

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vaccines in 100 days goal. jesse, let me go to you. advisors are expressing concerns. locals and state officials also worried, the details are unclear. it looks a lot like president trump's data. >> jesse: did you bump into this block with "one direction?" >> he did. >> pete: i wish it had been my choice. after mike >> this is not the internet. [laughter] >> jesse: jake tapper has artie freaked out over twitter. he said "bring back got fouled." [laughter] i don't think he likes you very much. here is what is going on here. governors of this country have choked with vaccine distribution. they are obsessed with the sequence of the group distribution. they say "you have to do this group, then this group, instead

of just getting the shots out." they are taking forever. they are not smart enough to figure out the 1-shot 2-shot sequence. it's blowing their minds. instead of hiring somebody smart to figure it out, they've frozen and can't figure out what to do and figure out who got what shot when, and what group they were in. there is no media strategy. you are telling people over 75 they have to go to a website and create a username and password? i can't even do that, and i'm in my '40s. how do you expect someone in their '80s to do that, and be creative? how about the amber alert? give us a text about where the objection site is. tell huber "free rides to the injection site." -- tell uber. i don't know where to get a shot in new york city, and i don't

think anybody else does either. >> pete: dana, and it doesn't even address the economic side of things. are we going to see more shutdowns? the financial pain, the other burdens don't seem to be addressed all that much. >> dana: that speech is at seven: 15. they wanted $1400 in addition to the $600 that artie went out. they were going to try to do more for restaurants. we should. getting schools reopened is key. i hope to hear something about that tonight. >> pete: katie, really quick, what they include in that to truly dollars is the blue state bailout they wanted all along that governors were banking on. covid money, but also pension funds that are underwater. >> katie: what's amazing is this week, you have the governor of new york and mayor of chicago, who have been for lockdowns for the last however

long, the science of showing can be open bars and schools, now all of us site and saying a week before the inauguration that they need to open things up because the economy will die if they don't. it's convenient they've been ignoring months of this news that the economy, but up until election -- now these officials are saying "maybe we should open up the economy." how many they hurt in the process is despicable. >> pete: how many good ideas came after november 3rd. centerpoint we think of the speech will be an announcement or goal of 100 million vaccinations within the first 100 days. there is a skepticism of whether they can read that. advisors internally saying they are not ready. how bad would it be if they can't make that? we ran on the covid saviors, but "we can't deliver the vaccine." >> juan: i don't know about that.

i don't think this is anything close to donald trump. what joe biden wants is to provide money so you have more vaccines, increase the production of the vaccine, as well as the delivery of the vaccine. we were hearing earlier in this segment, talk about increased rates of hunger in the country, how we reopen schools, providing more health care workers to deliver and inject that vaccine. we set a record this week. tuesday, you had at 4290 people die one day. what we are doing now isn't working. the idea that he would put more money into that, that he would not only do public awareness campaigns, but help establish national systems for how it should be done, that would be great. everybody should be celebrating that we are finally going to get something done. >> pete: summit might not be

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harvard and haverford and princeton, the smartest guys and say 'i'll give you 10% if you figured out'." >> dana: just use the first name of your teacher or something like that. [laughter] >> pete: bitcoin works differently. there is no bank. once you have lost your gold, you can't get it unless you remember a 12 or 24 word password that is randomized. this guy has no chance of getting this back. thankfully, he's got so much other bitcoin, apparently he is going to be okay. he has 7,000 bitcoin -- he bought 7,000 bitcoin, then forgot the password. >> dana: i listened to this podcast a couple weeks ago, professor galloway interviewing somebody about bitcoin. it was 45 minutes long.

peter and i listened while we were in the car. i looked at peter at the end and said "did you understand any of that question" i'm still at a loss. [laughter] >> katie: imagine how complicated the password is. this guy needs a russian hacker to help them out. he should have made his password "password," and my favorite thing about password is you put a password in and it is not strong enough, so you need something else. "my memory is not strong, so please stop asking me to give a strong password." >> dana: jesse, should he play the lottery tonight? worth the $1.5 billion. >> jesse: i will play it. [laughter] juan, i see what you did there. you just slide your alma mater, haverford, into the list of great schools and princeton, harvard. [laughter] i got you there. advice to the bitcoin guy, get an assistant. the assistant keeps track of your password. that kind of fortune is on the line, you get your assistant and

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to like. oscar mayer is hiring, you get to drive the mobile. you can be a hot dog or and you can drive the mobile across country. i think you have to be single for a job like this but it's 27 feet long, get yourself into a lot of trouble and take a lot of pictures. so go and apply now, the deadline is january 1st. dana, you are up next. >> if you take that job it's a great conversation starter for when you go for your other new jobs, real jobs. you know corrections in the newspaper, it's very frustrating because only a few people see the correction but not this correction. a little bit lighthearted here. cnn published a story today with the following update noted at the bottom. "correction. a previous story of misstated that representative ted lieu grabbed a crowbar before leaving

his office. he grabbed a pro bar energy bar." i love that one for the history books. get ready for the relaunch of bill hemmer at me but tomorrow we join america's newsroom i think around 10:30 a.m. to kick things off before we start on the day. >> if cnn makes a mistake like that, you wonder what else they are getting wrong. it really makes you think. >> oh gosh, here we go. >> pete will hate my "one more thing" because as a golden retriever and he doesn't like dogs. look at this dog named hopper who loves when his owner, who is a veterinarian, vacuums his belly with her vacuum. the owners name who is also the bed was amanda bromley.

whenever she gets up the vacuum to clean the golden retriever comes over and wants a belly rub with the dice in the handheld vacuum cleaner. he does shed a lot. >> we are learning a lot about pete hegseth. we are learning he likes one direction, he doesn't like dogs and he texts with jake tapper. lots of scree credit there. okay. speak to juan, europe. >> you guys have heard of taxis, but it's always more fun when you get a ride with your friend. take a look at this. that's a heron that landed on the back of an alligator and decided to stay for the ride. the alligator doesn't seem to mind. in fact, the heron flew away but then came back for another ride on the alligator. he is known to the people who run the facility is as jaws

because he's very aggressive. but he seems to have a new friend. i just hope when that heron went away, he said, see you later alligator. [laughter] >> that heron would have made a nice snack. pete, take us home. >> essay, i will admit i'm a bit of a cat guy but i do prefer dogs with function. that's my one caveat. i will say for my one more thing i always believed there was something called resting liberal face. regardless of their gender or the race, you could tell if they were liberal or not. a new study confirmed facial recognition technology that looked at over 1 million individuals and their political orientation and 72% of the time they were able to determine just based on their face, not on race or gender, but the facial expressions are making whether they are conservative or liberal.

so it turns out that resting liberal face is a thing confirmed by technology. >> when i was out on the streets doing waters world, i could identify a liberal looking at their face probably 90% of the time. it like a computer up here. that's it for us. "special report" up next. sp1 good evening. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, an amount of threatening chatter from the director of the fbi saying his agency's posture is aggressive against potential violence and will stay that way through the inauguration. director christopher wray telling vice president mike pence a short time ago that federal officials are tracking many specific calls for armed protests not only in washington, d.c., but in state capitals throughout the nation. this eight days after that deadly riot on capitol hill and the six days ahead of the new president swearingen. we have fox team coverage tonight. how federal officials are trki