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then the story with martha maccallum with air at 3:00 p.m. eastern time and we hope to see you right there. for now we're signing off in the morning. >> jon: you get to sleep a little later. >> i suppose that's the good side of everything. woel ♪ ♪ speak of this is a fox news alert, the nation's capital now on high alert ahead of next wees inauguration. razor wire fencing as part of the massive security in d.c. right now, more than 20,000 national guard troops being brought in and authorized to use lethal force in defense of the capital. more troops are in washington, d.c., than in iraq and afghanistan combined. fbi director chris wray has warned the bureau is seeing an extensive amount of concerning chatter about violence nationwide. chris wray says much work is being done behind the scenes to protect the public ahead of president-elect biden
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swearingen. officials have also warned of plans for armed protests in washington and all 50 states. as we see this unprecedented security ahead of inauguration day, a growing number of conservatives more in the washington is using the capital to crack down on americans civil liberties. watch this. >> we are opposed to political violence. we hate mobs no matter who they claim to represent. period. but that's not all we are against. you can judge for yourself what happened last wednesday in washington. you know what that was and you also know what it wasn't. it was not an act of racism, it was not an insurrection. it wasn't an armed invasion by a brigade of dangerous white supremacists. it wasn't. those are lies. they are using what happened last week to justify the most sweeping crackdown on civil liberties and free speech in the history of this country. >> kennedy: there you go. you are watching "outnumbered," i am kennedy.
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here today is fox business anchor dagen mcdowell, town hall editor katie pavlich, "fox nation" host tony merin and joining us today chief white house correspondent john roberts and starting monday, john will coanchor "america reports" from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. congratulations, very excited about the move. >> well done. >> john: i've been here for four years, covering literally every move the president has made with the front row seat to one of the most incredible and tumultuous times in american history, so i will be a little bit sad to leave, but to be able to be across the street looking down over the white house, bringing you the news of the day and everything our viewers want to hear about between the hours 1:00 and 3:00 is an honor for me. looking forward to it. >> kennedy: it's an exciting chapter. i want to talk about that later in the show but paint a picture for me, what is it like in d.c.
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and what's the difference between last wednesday and today as we head into inauguration week next week? >> john: let me frame this by saying this will be the sixth inauguration that i have covered, and this goes all the way back to 2,000, the inauguration of george w. bush. they were all national security events, but this, what we see now is unlike anything i have ever seen before. i had to come through two checkpoints to get to the white house and this is still five days before the inauguration. there was a national guard checkpoint i had to go through at first, then a police checkpoint after that. everybody was courteous, everybody was very calm. you show your access badge, white house passes that get us through the roadblocks. but i can sense that as we march towards the inauguration on wednesday, this is going to get tighter and tighter and tighter. i've been to a number of other national security events as
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well, starting with the millennial event on the national mall and how tight security was back then. thankfully, everything came off without a hitch. hopefully, things will come off without a hitch on wednesday. there was always a tendency, kennedy, when it comes to these big events for there to be an overreach in terms of security. and i know that from coming from certain areas on capitol hill about the potential for overreach but so far, what i have seen in washington, d.c., appears to be commensurate with the degree of the threat that the fbi director christopher wray has outlined. and again, things are calm and d.c. appear to think the best thing people are doing right now is staying away from the district. we will see how it goes over the next few days. >> kennedy: oftentimes, when you have a reaction like this i can become an overreaction in the biggest problem with that are the long-standing, unintended consequences and that's what tucker was referring
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to, is using this as a bullhorn to let the other side know, we are now in charge, but how could this affect civil liberties long-term? >> dagen: as a libertarian, you know it's up when you see a crackdown in the name of an event, and quite frankly, we saw this after 9/11 on people's speech or surveillance of individuals. and everybody is for law and order and everybody wants every attendee, starting with the president-elect joe biden and the vice president kamala harris to be safe and well protected. i think the biggest overreach that you're seeing, and we are going to talk about it later in this show, is the crackdown by the large tech monopolies not just on president trump, his presence across the internet, but particularly parler, which is being solely blamed for the
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area -- where this protest was organized. and that's just not the case. it happened, facebook was a huge platform for the organization but you've seen this crackdown and it raises the issue, kennedy, and this is where becomes government. we write about this in "the wall street journal" today, these big tech monopolies have turned themselves, this is her quote, into political entities raising constitutional and antitrust questions. when you act on behalf of government, when you act on behalf to censor voices and shut down an entire company, when you act on behalf of the democrats who are supposed to be regulating you, the democrats whose campaigns you funded, it doesn't just become a private sector issue, it becomes a freedom of speech, first amendment issue. i think that's the biggest
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problem we are seeing. >> kennedy: yeah, and we're going to get into that in great detail a little later on the show. katie, walk me through your experience there in the capital because like john roberts, you have also attended various inaugurations. you have seen massive security whether it's political conventions or happenings in and around d.c. what is it like or how is it different from things you've experienced in the past, katie? >> katie: i have to say, i have not been downtown to d.c. yet to see everything that is going on, but as i was saying last week when we saw what happened on wednesday, my fear was that washington, d.c., the nation's capital, that belongs to all americans, has become even increasingly inaccessible to everyday americans. i understand this is a special event, they are taking special precautions based on intelligence they have about what may happen next week but it's really a sad situation to watch the entire capital be
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blocked off to everyday americans who want to come see where their lawmakers are, where the president does his work and this is a culmination of things. a huge perimeter starting in the spring, early summer of last year, it's been inaccessible, you can't walk up to the white house anymore. and now we are here with 20,000 national guard in town. it's an incredible sight. i understand you need security, but this level of inaccessibility i think is not a bad precedent, i would say, but it really is a horrible reflection of what we've seen. in terms of previous inaugurations, i remember when president trump was inaugurated and there were also riots in the street and there was not this amount of security. i remember people blocking the entryway to the capitol, people who were not capable of getting inside. so there won't be people going to this inauguration as we usually see in the front line of
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the capitol, unfortunately, due to a number of factors but this is certainly something we've never seen before and i just hope as a country we can move forward and make the u.s. capital in the city of washington, d.c., more accessible to everyday americans in the future. >> kennedy: yes. it is truly unprecedented times. and these events are coming fast and furious. but we always have to be mindful of hypocrisy because the party that is coming into power across the spectrum has been demonizing actively, the police and calling to defend the police and then you have a very heavy-handed response. are we a little out of balance here? >> oh, absolutely we are and furthermore, i believe it was those on the left, the democrats in portland and seattle, criticizing president trump for setting and federal agents because they couldn't manage their own cities with weeks and
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months long riots, looting, burning and sending the feds and was seen as an overreach and everyone was super upset about that but all of a sudden they love the military, they love police and i was at president trump's inauguration and i remember going to the ball in a long dress and i remember there being substandard security. i remember there was a mob of blm protesters that saw me, recognized me and decided to chase me down the street and i had to jump into a cab that wasn't even moving really to save my own life. the left didn't seem to care about then. i remember being in d.c. then and i remember women screaming and other people's faces, being somewhat intimidating, harassing, and the left didn't seem to care. it's amazing now, their response. they suddenly love law and order, they suddenly love the military and they suddenly love police. i just hope it lasts. we have another blm or antifa
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riot, hope they have the same heart. >> kennedy: they will probably paint the streets. i remember in 1993 of that the clinton inauguration and then we watched a performance, it was great. we mentioned it a minute ago, but big tech sensors, looking to get much, much bigger. coming up next, what twitter ceo jack dorsey says in newly leaked video after permanently suspending president trump's account and whether the way politics and technology are mixing these days is a threat to the open internet itself. stay with us. alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. [grunting noise] i'll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health.
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♪ ♪ >> kennedy: this fox news alert, we are waiting for the release of a trove of documentss of the investigation into the
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trump campaign and administration and its ties to russia. a senate source telling fox news that the declassified documents will include depositions, transcripts and interviews. john roberts, you are going to get your hands on this. what are your expectations of what's going to be in this dump, if you will? >> john: i was expecting them by now. it looks like they're a little late coming out about what we are expecting is deposition transcripts, interview transcripts from some 12 people who were involved in the investigation into the origins into the russia gate investigation. this would include an fbi debrief. i'm told with christopher steele, the author of the dodgy dossier that many people contend was the beginning of the russia gate investigation. as well, i'm told there are interviews, depositions with stephen halbert, the cambridge university professor or professor from cambridge who had
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contact with george papadopoulos as well as carter page. and what these documents may do, i don't want to say that there is any kind of a smoking gun because i don't know what the content of them is at this moment but they may add more light to what we know about the origins of the russia investigation, why carter page and george papadopoulos were suspected, why he decided to bring the information to the fbi, was the dossier part of a disinformation campaign designed to obscure an investigation into hillary clinton's emails by turning the spotlight onto president trump and the trump campaign. president trump has long insisted that he was spied on. other officials have a different opinion of that, saying it was just appropriate surveillance given what was being said about the trump campaign back in the late part of 2015, early part of 2016. but once we get our hands on these documents, we can see what
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was included in these depositions, these transcripts, these interviews. it may give us some more granularity into how this whole thing started and what the roles of the individual players wear. we will see what is coming out. we're expecting it sometime today. i was expecting them by now but clearly they will be a little bit delayed. >> kennedy: bill barr, the former attorney general did appoint john durand, who has been investigating this as special counsel to ensure that there is continuity between the trump administration and the incoming biden administration. but we already know that the dossier, and some of this is in the mueller report. the dossier itself was phony and members of the trump campaign, carter page, was spied on using surveillance warrants and the warrants were based on that phony dossier, in part. >> kennedy: correct. and you look at the big question
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about why the president has not declassified all this information previously, given -- what we know publicly about the situation. but if you look at the criminal investigation, which was up to a special counsel investigation by attorney general bill barr before he left office, he did that in order to keep this going. the reason why president trump may not have release this information is because there is a criminal investigation going on. you don't want to harbor that investigation by releasing too much information too early. however the bottom line is that the trump administration is coming to an end, the biden administration has no intention of releasing any information, especially given he was in on that january 5th oval office meeting when he was asked about going after michael flynn with the logan act. there are lots of questions about what the obama administration is doing in terms of hindering the incoming trump administration. some more transparency on this
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issue, the better. the inspector general looked into this, which is not a criminal investigation, saying that he couldn't exactly find the motivation behind the origins of the russia investigation but depositions may be released and this will certainly shed light on what these people were thinking, what their motivation was behind filling out falsifies the applications and lying to judges. >> it's important for every american to get to the bottom of what happened, but if there was an abuse of surveillance power and an abuse by intelligence agencies or officials and abused by federal law enforcement. >> tomi: absolutely and the american people deserve to know as well. don't forget how long was spent on this, how your taxpayer dollars were spent on this, that's all we heard for at least the first two years, if not all four with russia, russia, russia. we went through witch hunt one,
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two, three. we went there one sham impeachment, and how they're going through another. the american people want to know why their time in their tax dollars were wasted on this. i think we should be paying attention to it, i think that president trump is going to be vindicated and i think there are a lot of trump supporters are waiting for it. they feel like this president was attacked before day one, before he stepped into office with witch hunt after witch hunt and we deserve some answers and so does our president. >> kennedy: thank you. all right, let's go live right now to washington, d.c. officials holding a new conference with the mayor of d.c. on inauguration security preparation. let's listen. >> -- for the general public. thank you very much. >> thank you, agent miller, administration.
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>> thank you. >> i am marianne tierney, the regional administrator for the federal emergency management agency. while fema is not a law enforcement agency, public safety is our number one priority for the inauguration. fema has taken several actions to promote good public safety during this event. the president has declared an emergency that has enabled fema to do several things. the first thing is we have deployed a national incident management team to the d.c. emergency operations center to work in support of our district partners. we have also deployed regional assistant teams to both maryland and virginia to support their planning and action. we have been working with the district to identify resource requirements. for example, we are currently working to prestage ambulance resources and also we have new commodities such as food, water and shelter supplies closer in for the district should that be needed. we continue to support the secret service and in effort to
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plan for that we have conducted several exercises in response to the secret service as well as other agencies to help us prepare. that is all i have, pending any questions. >> kennedy: there you go. mayor of d.c. and others discussing security logistics for the upcoming inauguration. and new questions about just how far big tech censorship may go off or leaked video shows twitter ceo jack dorsey suggesting the company plans to take action, "much bigger than just one account," an apparent reference to banning president trump's account. in the same video he also worries all of this will be destructive to the noble purpose of the open internet. on that point, "the wall street journal" editorial board agrees. the pressure to chip away at
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access for ideological groups, especially those on the right, continues to increase and there will be more as democrats soon run both ends of pennsylvania pennsylvania avenue in washington. last week has celebrated the erosion of a free and open internet that is one of america's great achievements. john roberts, your thoughts on that quote from "the wall street journal"? >> john: clearly twitter is taking steps to erase some voices from its social media platforms. i don't know about you folks, but i have lost 21,000 followers on twitter as a result of the purge that has been going on, with twitter getting rid of or suspending a number of accounts, but in terms of, first of all suspending the president, this is something that has been met with opposition from a diverse number of voices, from german chancellor angela merkel, who said that it was problematic, to
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the acting australian prime minister michael mccormick who says he does not believe in that type of censorship, to andre manwell lopez, the president of mexico who doesn't agree with it, to a little more of a right wing voice, you've got angela on the left and also saying you should be restricting access to twitter and when you take a look at restricting voices here in the united states, at the same time, allowing the voices of iranian officials and some of the vitriol that they spew to be allowed to go around on the world, it does raise questions as to our people on the right being unfairly targeted by the social media platform, which tends to skew left? >> kennedy: at the private company. you want to suspend accounts, suspend accounts but don't lie to us about it and don't say that is elevating the discussion and whatever nonsense jack dorsey was trumpeting in his series of incoherent tweets.
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it's been very obvious to many on the right that their speeches being curtailed curtailed on social media platforms, but with the big tech and big government working side-by-side, ideologically, what can be done? >> katie: that is the key point. yes, it's a private company, congress has a whole bunch of questions and gunned on a bunch of different avenues as to whether twitter and facebook and other big companies are engaged in fraud or not telling consumers exactly what they are getting and what their platforms are for, they've also been accused of causing health problems by a number of people on capitol hill. democrats accused them of fomenting russia propaganda. of course, now we are having this big issue with conservatives being censored by the biggest issue outside of them being a private company is that you now have joe biden hiring a number of big tech executives to just go into the executive branch of his administration. and as we've seen before, the
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left has used the power of the federal government to go after their political enemies. so when you have someone like congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez saying that we need to do something on capitol hill about misinformation and reining in the press, there are big questions about how that dilution would happen, given that joe biden is now taking people from the tech sector who still have connections there and implementing things behind the scene that will further squash dissent. so that is where we are moving forward. in terms of how you combat this, speaking out, trying to build your own networks, looking at antitrust issues, a whole bunch of things that i'm not sure the democrats are willing to do at this point, given that they have all three branches of the government at this point. >> kennedy: they talk about breaking apart some of these companies but it's laughable when jack dorsey says if conservatives don't like with happening on twitter they can go to another platform when parler
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was shut down by google, apple and amazon. was that also a message to future social media platforms that might cater to right of center users? >> dagen: yes, it's not just the censoring of individual voices. it is the pulling out of business and pulling the plug on an entire company. that's the danger. and you know what, if they are private businesses come if they are acting at the direction of those in washington, then they are an arm of the government. then you could see multiple lawsuits. that's what kim strassel writes about. you open the door for antitrust laws, laws, anticompetitive lawsuits galore against these companies. i want to read you a quote. "we believe that the totality of the evidence demonstrates the pressing need for legislative action and reform. these companies, apple, google, amazon and facebook have too
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much power and that power must be reined in and subject to appropriate oversight and enforce that. our economy and democracy are at stake. that is from a 450 page report from democrats in the house led by jerry nadler that came out just three months ago. that gets to the root of the problem. it's not just the suppression of speech, a violation of the first amendment. it is actually harmful, the behavior of these monopolies come into our overall economy. to every america, because you stifle growth, you prevent other companies from forming, you put them out of business, and with the app store, would we be a healthier economy, a more profitable one if you didn't charge so much money? but they can charge whatever they want because these are monopolies. silva goes to the heart, not just of our nation and the constitution, but also our economy and the financial health of it.
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>> kennedy: that's a great point, and it is, it should be about the health of an economy, you would think, if you had a more intelligent ceo at twitter you would be taking about the bottom line. republicans famously said, republicans buy sneakers too. apparently in social media they don't think conservatives deserve to use their platforms and that equals half the country. so what are conservatives going to do now if you've got all that? >> katie: conservatives helped build twitter. we helped really grow it. our president donald trump, obviously, was a huge boost to twitter and to big tech in general. but again, the democrats are all about regulating everything, daily life to daily life but they don't want to regulate their allies. funny how that works peer but they've been telling us over and over again that they want to unify, they would have a president biden for all americans and they insist they are not left-wing radicals.
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they insist they are moderate. how come then have we not heard any prominent democrats coming out talking about censorship, the big tech monopoly? if they are so moderate and they want to be the representation of all americans, what about the 50% of us who are deep platforms, who were censored, silenced, shadow banned? where are those moderate and unifying democrats that are going to come and talk about an issue that is very real for most americans? they are doing it to suit their agenda, they are doing it to suit those in power, they are doing it to suit their allies and big tech and quite frankly, it's repulsive and it's disgusting. but there is little hope for conservatives because as we have mentioned time and time again, they've long said if you don't like twitter, you don't like facebook and instagram then get off of it and create your own. then parler was created then they say, we're not going to put you on the app store anymore to know we are at the point where conservatives are going to create her own internet, i suppose. that's really the only choice we have left, i guess. >> kennedy: take the ball and
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go home. thank you. new york attorney general suing the nypd over its handling of protests last summer despite incidents like this when a man beat an officer with a cane. why critics are calling this an outrage. plus democratic congressman eric swalwell returning to his spot on the homeland security committee despite his past ties to a suspected chinese spy. house speaker nancy pelosi, is she overlooking a potential national security risk? that's all coming up. critics are calling news of the world, "a towering piece of moviemaking". we will get you away from all this pain. "it's soulful and stirring"... she needs new memories.
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♪ ♪ >> katie: >> nancy pelosi announcing eric swalwell will return to his spot despite lingering questions over his past ties to a spy. he also sits on the intelligence committee and will serve as
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house impeachment manager this week likens president trump to osama bin laden. >> osama bin laden did not enter u.s. oil on september 11th, but was widely acknowledged that he was responsible for inspiring the attack on our country and the president, with his words, using the word "fight" with this because he assembled that day who called for "trial by combat." and said we have to take names and kick [bleep]. i'm comparing the words of an individual who would incite and radicalize somebody as osama bin laden did to what president trump did. >> katie: i want to get to the specifics of eric swalwell's division now, but nancy pelosi also said during her press conference on capitol hill today that impeachment managers are preparing for trial. what is the response from the outgoing trump a administration on that?
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>> john: you know, the trump administration clearly has no appreciation whatsoever for eric swalwell and his positions on the president or the fact that he is still on the intelligence committee or that he has been reappointed to the homeland security committee, or that he will be acting as impeachment manager as well. in the upcoming senate trial, should it come to that. but the question that i would pose, katie, is the coverage of eric swalwell and the known chinese spy, if swalwell's name was nunez as opposed to swalwell, or if he was just a republican member of congress or if his name was donald trump jr. or eric trump and had a relationship with a known chinese spy, what would the coverage of that look like? i posit that it would look wholly different than it has during this whole revelation that swalwell is involved with this woman, even though it was some years ago.
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questions have to be asked, whether or not there has been enough scrutiny placed on the relationship that he had and what potential national security implications of that might be. i'm not saying he did anything wrong, of course. it's not my position as a journalist to do, but has enough attention been placed on this from an investigatory level, from the political level, from the journalistic level to let him comfortably sit in those positions of prominence that nancy pelosi has appointed him to? >> katie: a lot of people will say this is just a distraction, a behavior problem, it happens in washington, d.c., all the time but eric swalwell is sitting on the house intelligence committee and the homeland security committee when china is such a threat and has infiltrated every part of american life. seems to me like democrats aren't taking this threat from china very seriously. >> kennedy: look at us! we are in five boxes. we have to be on a lovely
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beautiful curved white couch and a lovely studio with all sorts of audio technicians and camera men and women had hair and makeup people around us and now we are completely separated and isolated, and life sucks because of china, because they are untrustworthy and also trying to infiltrate every aspect of our country, from politicians to the economy! so no, this is not, this has not received a level of scrutiny that is absolutely required of it and i'm not convinced of that eric swalwell's prom photos are irrelevant somehow or innocuous. so please, go in there, put him under oath and figure out what really, really happened because of this is inexcusable and eric swalwell is an unserious buffoon. >> katie: there are very serious questions about the
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origin of this virus, about how involved the chinese communist party was with allowing it to get out of the rest of the world, and yet, eric swalwell, who was engaged in a relationship with a chinese spy is the one now in charge of the committee to look into the origins of the virus? >> dagen: it speaks to the lack of seriousness among some democrats or many democrats about the threat that china is to the united states and our way of life, with the virus, as kennedy pointed out. they want to be the world's number one superpower and they will steal and they will spy and they will achieve that at all costs and they need to take a harsher stance against china, including investigating what went on with eric swalwell and i do think on a more personal level, nancy pelosi doesn't like to admit that she screwed up and was wrong, so she keeps betting on this has been. >> kennedy: [laughs]
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>> dagen: new york's democratic attorney general suing the new york city police department over its handling of racial justice protests last summer. james alleges that police used excessive force and want cops to be subject to federal oversight. critics calling the lawsuit and outrage, arguing cops are frequently targeted by protesters. here's just one example. an officer bloodied after being attacked with a cane. here's another incident, police say a riot or hit an officer in the back of the head with a brick intentionally, knocking him to the ground, and his helmet was credited with saving his life. police union official at the time asked how politicians think they should respond when officers are getting hit with bricks, fists, water bottles and other objects. the state attorney general james
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said this, claims there is no question that the nypd engaged in a pattern of unlawful force in suppressing "overwhelmingly peaceful protests." i live in new york city and can tell you when the sun went down they were not overwhelmingly peaceful, that businesses were broken into, looted, they were boarded up. i saw it with my own eyes. it was rioting everywhere but this is the narrative that the left is pushing about what happened last summer. >> katie: as we know, the left now hate rioting. they find it to be disgusting and insurrection but over the summer they call it no justice, no peace. they called it a social justice movement and they felt police officers are right to be targeted with attacks and harassment and intimidation. we saw it all summer long. we are going to continue to see it although much of the media doesn't want to touch it it is still very much happening.
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our police officers do that job every single day and i would like some consistency from the left when they go to defend police officers, despite he was the one attacking them we should all be for our police officers and there is no doubt what they experienced over the summer, what they have experienced quite frankly for the last five years. felons, criminals, anarchists and quite frankly disgusting people have been emboldened to attack and harass our police officers and the media, by the way, has been very complicit in it, talking about inciting violence. the media has played a large role in the demonization of cops, so have many prominent democrats. again, we are seeing police officers who are being heralded as heroes on one occasion and then demonized on every other. the double standard is sickening and i hope these officers know the silent majority has their back. we will stand up for them and for them to be able to do their job safely and effectively in new york city and elsewhere. they are true heroes. >> dagen: what do you make of
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those claims by james? >> katie: this is why we are seeing police officers retiring across the country and in new york city while we don't have any incoming police force units, we are seeing crime go up in a number of these cities. the police have been demonized over and over again by overzealous prosecutors but at the same time, they are not looking out for the very people who want police and their communities. the very communities that the d.a.s claim to be standing up for are the ones who suffered the most when it comes to fewer police and their ability to fight back against violent agitators that were on the streets of america in cities across the country for nine months. this will just have long-term consequences on safety of those places that want police and their communities, unfortunately. >> dagen: john roberts, certainly to katie's point, the
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murders doubled last year and shootings skyrocketed. and please feel like those in power in the state and even in the nation don't really have their backs. >> john: there's no question too when you look at mayor bill de blasio and the nypd commissioner in one of his lieutenants, john miller all saying, pointing a federal monitors the wrong way to go about doing this. what we need is community input to policing. that's an indication that perhaps what letitia james is suggesting here is not the correct way to go about doing it. i have been in many, many demonstrations. i have seen protesters attack police, sometimes in demonstrations on the part of police but to get the federal government involved rather than solving this as a community, policing reform effort. i'm not sure going the federal
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>> harvard students are calling for the ivy league schools to revoke the degrees of grads who have become trump aides and supporters including kayleigh mcenany, senator ted cruz, and congressman crenshaw. the students called them "violent actors" who need to be accountable for the misinformation's and lies that led to the violence in d.c. after removing lee stefanik from
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antivirus three committee. saying that the new york public made claims about voter fraud that has no basis in evidence. john roberts, can they do that? can they take your degree away after you put in the money in the hard work and have gotten the grades and earned it? >> john: you know, kennedy, i would think that this would be something by the legal challenge to try to do that in a petition that people say that it is a privilege to have a harvard degree, i would suggest a lot of people would say it is certainly prestigious, but not a privilege, because it is something that you pay for. i mean, it is like general motors or forward saying we don't like your politics, give back your car. when you look at the end crenshaw as well, how many people will serve five tours of duty as navy seal. crenshaw spoke out against president trump's comments at the eclipse -- the ellipse the
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other day and devoted to the challenges of the election. i'm not sure what they are upset about. but i don't see how an educational institution could rescind a degree you paid for. an honorary degree, maybe, but when you paid for. no. >> kennedy: you put in the work, it's like trying to erase your experiences, this is a new level of cancel cordial. >> katie: i would say to the alumni, stop giving them money, they hate you, and stop bailing them out with covid relief funds and whatever a lobbyist come take taxpayers away from people to discriminate against those who dare -- kind of conservative opinion on the right at all. it is just ridiculous. >> kennedy: 20 seconds, put a button on it. >> tomi: other than being ridiculous is an intimidation
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tactic, telling conservatives to sit down and shut up or else. it is shaming young conservative students into being quiet. it's utterly ridiculous, but what else would you expect from the left. >> kennedy: that's a good point, definitely telling people who are matriculating now you better watch out, and starting next week, at 1:00 p.m. eastern, our man in the middle, john roberts is going to coanchor a brand-new show, america reports, tell us all about it. it is so exciting. >> john: for years now i have been front row in the white house. i will be moving to a perch overlooking the white house where the middle of the afternoon when everything is exploding in washington, sandra smith who is one of the smartest people i know, just a terrific person and a great journalist and i will be covering everything that moves across the country and in particularly here in washington.
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we understand that the biden administration may be getting back to the daily briefing, so there will be an awful lot to chew over, remember that fox news continues to be the place where you get the news that you are looking for with thorough perspective that you are looking for. and i will honor that great tradition as we bring in the news every week between 1:00-3:00. >> kennedy: this is a real exciting chapter for you and i am jealous that you will get to work with sandra every day. she is awesome and so are you, so well done. it will be an exciting new lineup. a part of the new line of coming to fox news channel starting on monday, america's newsroom will kick off day time from o'clock-11:00 with bill hemmer and dana perino, followed by harris faulkner with "faulkner focus" at 11:00, and then "outnumbered" at noon, and the debut "america reports" from 1:00-3:00, then "the story" at a
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brand-new time, 3:00 p.m. eastern good fox news prime time kicks off at 7:00 p.m. all our time coming eastern. thank you for another exciting day, so much more to parse, we'll do it next week on "outnumbered, right now it is taken in for harris faulkner. >> new insight into the origins of the fbi russia probe, this is "outnumbered overtime," i am dagen mcdowell in for harris faulkner. telling fox that hundreds of pages of deposition, transcripts, and interviews will soon be made public to the trove of information about the initial probe under possible contact between the 2016 trump campaign in moscow. john durham working to wrap up an additional investigation

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