be in d.c. two days tuesday and wednesday and we will join you for a front row seat, pomp and ceremony although there won't be a lot of it because it is covid times. we will bring you what you find. >> dana: thanks for watching, the debut of the "faulkner focus" is up next. >> harris: right now, thousands of central american migrants are headed to our southern border with mexico. this apparently is a test for joe biden even before he faces office. i'm harris faulkner. you're in the "faulkner focus." police in guatemala are using force to try to block more than 7,000 migrants coming this way from honduras and el salvador. they want to pass through the country south of us to reach mexico and then burst their way into the united states and the incoming biden administration official reportedly is passing on a message to those migrants, do not come here right now

because you won't be able to get in immediately. biden has promised to rollback many of president trump's strict illegal immigration policies and a top border official says that may explain what you see here. the caravan. >> now was not the time. this is dangerous. they're risking their own lives, throughout the western hemisphere is there doing this but what i would say is it's a little too little, little too late. the rhetoric that's been out there, the open border strategy is what is driving this. >> harris: we will to that this hour and the focus is on joe biden's plan to undo many more of president trump's america first policies. he says he will do that on day one. also a new development in the crackdown on conservative voices and questions over democrat congressman eric swalwell's ties to a suspected chinese spy.

the details. we will talk to pete hegseth about it moments from now. william la jeunesse live in our los angeles newsroom with our top story, the border caravans. >> they arrest dozens at a time, detain and deport them but the pipeline never stops of some 8,000 migrants mostly from honduras broke through a border checkpoint, headed to mexico, ultimately the u.s., they will claim asylum or enter illegally. >> we have lost everything in her repayment so we will ask for help from anyone who will take us in. >> i want to prosper, there is no work to even as a bricklayer.

if >> critics claim it's a ruse, the president-elect has not said when he would lift that restriction but sunday and officials that help is on the way but told the migrants to wait. of mexico fails, the question becomes how does biden handle, president trump said biden has only himself to blame giving his promises and providing free health care. >> this will be an unmitigated calamity for national security, public safety, and public health. it would destroy millions and millions of jobs and claim thousands of innocent lives. >> biden's campaign promises may be encouraging them to get here now and get a job to qualify for that promise legalization plan whether they use fraudulent documents or not. >> when you have a vast number,

our hope is they would be protected not only economically but with the legal status. >> so in about ten days roughly of this caravan stays together and any numbers, the new administration will have to confront their own words for large number of people camped just over the border. if >> harris: before i let you go, one of the things that i saw on your video, there were a lot of children in the mix there and i thought this incoming administration said it was going to do some things quite differently and now they have children coming back. in the obama presidency, they had all those children coming, where we got our 2014 pictures of children basically in captivity. william la jeunesse, good to see you. last thought. >> they said they wouldn't detain women and children and

that moratorium. >> harris: thank you again. if once focus on this with pete hegseth, amazing author as well. if the first of all, i was just talking about the children in the mix, joe biden is kind of stuck because those far left progressives are saying it's a pandemic we have a lot going on. if i don't ask me my first of. well-earned as always and it's an honor to be here. yes, nobody better, i appreciate it. if you don't have to be making a partisan statement or political statement to say this is common sense consequences of a new administration. when you said we will end

deportations, when you said we will end the migrant protection protocols witches remain in mexico policy when you're seeking asylum when you're not willing to put the pressure on the government of mexico that the trump administration has come in when you're willing to give a pathway to citizenship, when you talk about health care, all of that adds up, get here while you can, get in position because his administration says they wanted. caravan like this creates a crystallizing moment. if the caravan probably grows in the process is more information gets out there and when they reach the border, how is it handled? the far left activists believe they will demand that those doors open my demand when magic words are spoken about asylum, they stay here at which point katrin really starts all over again so this is what left-wing policies look like if you

believe in open borders and there's going to be a crucible of a moment with this migrant caravan that is to test the administration. >> harris: we hope that wouldn't be true because it was those other nations and between us and the migrants that are coming. they are trying to physically back on these people in the way it's been turned back on. we will be watching it. meanwhile, china analyst gordon chang has raised some concerns. we all know him here, wrote an op-ed and the concerns are over democrat congressman eric swalwell's failure to address his past relationship with a suspected chinese spy. watch this. >> tried to infiltrate his campaign and influence them, god knows, maybe even corrupted him and even though she left the united states in 2015, china still may have leverage. if we need to know more.

we need to have him give the public accounting. a far greater risk than russia but as he has been in congress, all he's talked about is russia, trump. >> harris: as we know sits on the house intel and judiciary committee, but failed to ask him a single question about his reported links to that spy during her recent interviews. i see you shaking your head. >> you can only imagine the inverse. if that were to be done jr. or jim jordan, that would be the only question the answer until there's an outright denial but this is like the hunter biden story and that no one ever came out and said this did not happen and moreover, never address that nancy pelosi has the audacity to

continue to put him front and center and include him in the recent impeachment management team. so sort of thumbing her nose because she knows he's a partisan she can count on. at the same time if we want to live seriously in this moment, we have to take china on at every single level until those questions are answered and that we could not afford to have someone who might be compromised. if he just has to answer the question and he hasn't done that, the media won't ask them so we have to continue to demand that because everything is at stake. if the chinese have their tentacles into him, the highest levels of our government and our intelligence which we know they are focused on doing as well as all the other ways they are seeking vulnerability in america. >> harris: if we can get to him in person, we might use one of those platforms so quick to squelch the voices of people.

do they shut down questions? let's find out. i'll try it out. pete hegseth, good to see you, thank you so much. the senate won't meet for an impeachment trial until after president trump leaves office and becomes a private citizen. if my next guest says that move could further our constitution. you've got to see it. if in this. >> this is about, america might not a lot of programs that get support from the chamber of commerce and bernie sanders. >> harris: msnbc anchor getting called out has a democratic party hack for being too friendly with the joe biden team. if will the media treat the incoming the same way they did president trump? stay close. it's a new day for veteran homeowners with va loans.

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>> harris: the u.s. capital briefly on lockdown nearly two weeks, capitol police ordering congressional staffers to shelter in place due to a fire nearby. we now see there is no threat to the public. defense officials on high alert as you know ahead of the inauguration on wednesday taking extra steps to prevent an insider attack. watching all of this for us from d.c. >> 45 minutes ago you could hear the speakers warning people to stay away from doors and windows because of an external security threat, turns out it was just a

fire but it does highlight the sensitive security environment we are dealing with here in washington in particular around the u.s. capitol building including multiple thousands of numbers of police officers, checkpoints, 21,500 national guard members now, homeland security official thing there watching for anyone potential for violence. >> if they identify an individual like you just said, first of all keeping that person from flying and if there is a legal basis to do so, they will hold that person for delivery to the fbi or local authorities. >> much of the chatter they are seeing refers across the country not just here in washington, d.c., defense officials say they are working with the secret service on potential national guard members who may require deeper security screenings watching for

potential insider threats first reported by the ap and confirmed by fox. also made a couple of arrests at these security checkpoints, a 22-year-old for carrying a pistol without a license and another friday when capital police that they intercepted a driver who had a handgun, rounds of ammunition and a nongovernment credential. "washington post" interviewed that man, he says he got lost rushing to work and had been forgetting he left his firearm in his truck. meanwhile, arrests are continuing, more than 100 while they say they have more than 300 investigations ongoing. that all related to the riot a couple of weeks ago in the capital. >> harris: rich edson, thank you very much. to some of the media are already taking some heat for their coverage of the incoming biden administration. if one anchor got called out for what critics say it ended like

this. >> your help has been extremely important because not only have you continued to amplify some of the things we are trying to do here, but you've been in the weeds and talked about the very policies that have been knocking around for a long time and that we finally been able to get together, so i want to thank you for your advocacy as well. >> if you're going to compliment annie, always more time for that in our show. >> harris: conservative media watchdog said this. "rule has made it clear she has a self-avowed democratic party hack. that's a quote. power panel, fox news political analyst judith miller, pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter, adjunct fellow at the manhattan institute, fox news contributor as well. welcome to the first. i want to put this in focus. pulitzer prize-winning

journalist. anybody ever call you and advocate, anybody ever tell you from a political party? >> thank you so very much for your help. >> harris: that ever happened? be back not often enough. look, first of all, i want to congratulate you on your show, and i want to say this. the reason i am doubly delighted to be here is you may be a relatively young anchor but you are very experienced and more than that, you are someone who believes in an old-fashioned view, that your viewers, your audience deserves two points at least of view, different points of view, but that's a very old-fashioned form of journalism, and what stephanie rule has done on msnbc is exactly the opposite. she is an opinion anchor, she's entitled to her view, she has not hidden them and i'm not going to criticize her for saying exactly what she believes them exactly what her network wants to hear and exactly what

her viewers expect to hear. if if you want that point of view, turn onto msnbc. if you want a different point of view, you can turn on to other cable news channels, but what's happened to journalism is that we have become as partisan and as polarized as the rest of the country and that's the new form of journalism. if you want something different, you have to vote with your clicker or your paper or your money for journalism that at least attempts to be objective and independent. >> first, thank you for having me on your inaugural show as we celebrate all of his sacrifices, we also celebrate lieutenant colonel harris and all the sacrifices for the freedoms of our country. i agree with some of the points just made, i think that the media has become derelict in their duties to the american people. i don't think journalism is in

anyway what we've seen has a nonbiased forest. we've seen in "the new york times" with their headlines and as we talked about mlk day, the day that donald trump was inaugurated into office, there was a story saying the bust of mlk was removed from the oval office and therefore he was a racist. when you look at those kind of conclusions made by the media not giving them a shot but seeing what happened during the campaign with the hunter biden story, the mainstream media and social media, i don't have hope that this press that we have today is going to hold joe biden's administration accountable. when you've seen joe biden take questions, seemingly the toughest questions came from fox news who would call him out on different things in a very respectful way and he would call them names and walk away and laugh. so you've seen many stories about that. >> harris: real quickly for both of you, i just see everyone

is spending an inordinate amount of time calling each other wrong and not enough listening at some of the best ideas of come from people we don't resemble and we may not agree with and it's my job as a journalist to bring it all together and let people move by. i'm glad i have you to help me do that. thank you both, good to see you and thanks for your work. thank you. president-elect joe biden is preparing a slew of executive orders on his first day in office. it next, what they reveal about his priorities and left impact n his agenda. he said he was going to try to push that up and congresswoman aoc says we are going to push our way in. plus, more on those questions critics are asking about whether the framers intended for private citizens to be a subject of an impeachment trial. >> if you could impeach anyone who was not a sitting president, there are no limits to the power

of the congress to try ordinary citizens. it is plainly unconstitutional in the senate should not proceed with this unconstitutional act.

>> this is a scarlet letter impeachment where they are trying to prevent him from entering office and this is never been done in the history of our country. it is blatantly unconstitutional being driven by the radical left. >> harris: that senator lindsey graham ripping the second amendment trial of president trump which will not even begin until the president is a private citizen. my next guest is sounding the alarm on all of this in a new scathing op-ed on foxnews.com.

he writes "on its face, the planned impeachment trial is at odds with the language of the constitution which expressly states removal of a president is the primary purpose of such a trial. at this time, trump will be neither a president nor in office. he will be a citizen and will be best served illegally to forgo the trial entirely as extraconstitutional and invalid. jonathan turley, a constitutional law expert, a law professor and fox news contributor, great to have you on the program. what caught me at first was you've actually compare with about to happen potentially with a second impeachment trial in the senate and president trump to what happened in 1897 when the pope was put on trial and he was dead already. that is harsh. why do you put it that way? >> i think it might've been earlier than that, but taking a

predecessor out of his tomb to set him up for trial, they convicted him, actually cut off some of his fingers and threw them into the river. and that's a rather extreme example of a retroactive judgment. with fairness to critics of president trump and some people of the senate, there are good faith arguments to be made for the retroactive impeachment for post service impeachment. 30 years ago, i wrote about this in a law journal piece, this was where he was tried retroactively in great britain. however, it's widely viewed and dealt with this in a couple of times were on both occasions, this issue has been raised in the first one, the case involved an individual where they

actually dismiss the case. he didn't show up for his trial, they kept trying to remove me because i'm gone. the second case involved former secretary of war, about half the senators were short of that that they also did not believe this was legitimately tried before the senate. so this was an unresolved issue. we can all agree that there is some value to these trials in terms of dialogue, in terms of the wrong that people have raised with regards to a president, but there are also countervailing costs. very significant ones. and it's a very difficult argument to make in my view because of the language of the constitution. >> harris: it's interesting that at such a visual book and for us. we were at the very beginning of the pandemic almost exactly a year ago watching democrats

impeach the president in the house and the battle that that was ensuing as the president was trying to shut down travel from china and do all sorts of things coming under criticism for all sorts of reasons and now we are at a point where we really thought the democrats meant what they said, will focus solely on getting that vaccine into arms. i'm not hearing that from speaker pelosi and does this again get the eye off the ball? real quick answer from you. >> the last senate trial for a judge impeachment trial needs to stop when they can vote on a nuclear weapons tree, it was not easy then and they have a lot less to do. >> harris: jonathan turley, thank you. if people have not read that op-ed, it is called -- it is really gripping. appreciate it on foxnews.com. thank you. if parler says it's working to welcome users back onto their platform as another republican is temporarily suspended by

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[ engines revving ] ♪♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. [ engine revs ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. when that conservatives are pointing out and going after the liberal agenda items and president-elect joe biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus stimulus plan. here's one. $20 billion for public transportation and raising the minimum wage to $15. florida senator rick scott calls the plan of blue state bailout. >> we shouldn't have florida taxpayers bailing out new york. we could not be bailing out the states where their prior problems. we've given the states over half a trillion dollars or covid

relief. we should help on covid relief. i want targeted help for people, but to bail out these blue states makes no sense. >> harris: peter doocy reporting live for us from washington. good to see you. >> good to see you and the biden team is explaining why they stuck a $15 minimum wage into this covid stimulus plan. on page 12 of their 19 page american rescue plan with this line about front-line workers has president-elect biden has said, let's not just praise them, let's pay them. hardworking americans deserve sufficient wages and keep a roof over their head without having to find multiple jobs. >> the $15 minimum wage is a concrete and direct way to help support those workers who are out there on the front lines right now providing services to all of us and give them direct support in a direct boost right now. >> but the rnc chairwoman

ronna mcdaniel says this. a wage mandate could destroy up to 3.7 million american jobs. democrats already spent months playing politics with covid relief and we should not been posting a liberal wish list. the rescue plan explains they want money to help public transmit systems avoid cutting roofs that essential workers rely on and they admit in writing has nothing to do with covid-19 relief. they state it something they want to address in addition to the covid crisis and if it's right there alongside other covid-19 specific priorities and when it comes to relief, the biden team is not just planning on writing checks from treasury accounts. as president, biden plans to pressure the heads of major retailers to offer front-line workers or to aid front-line workers back hazard pay for wages lost during lockdowns.

>> harris: that might be tough on some of those businesses that might not have been open for all of that time as a revenue earning points they had hoped. peter doocy, thank you. the "los angeles times" is weighing in on the president-elect's agenda with this headline. "make america california again. that's joe biden's plan." vice president elect kamala harris as a senator from california and reports the state could become a de facto policy thing take for the incoming administration. expected to sign executive orders immediately after his administration to continue the pause, rejoin the paris climate agreement, reverse the muslim travel ban, and more. special report anchor bret baier bitcoins me now. not all of those points are things that people might not agree on. the question is is that the focus of this point for this incoming president to undo what's been done under

president trump? >> good morning. first of all, congrats on the new show. i feel very privileged to be on the focus today. i think it's interesting that the "los angeles times" is the one with this headline and saying making america california. i would argue that large parts of america, voters would not love to say they want their entire country to be california just by california's track record on a number of different issues. your right to point out some people could get to a negotiated point on a number of those different things, but expect the biden administration to put a lot of apples in the barrel of coronavirus. in other words, say it's all coronavirus related and thereby try to get as much as they can through what is a very tenuous majority in the senate. >> harris: if they want to be like california on that, they'll have some problems.

california has struggled mightily in recent weeks and months with their response to covid-19, not just the victims themselves but the businesses, the economy there. >> right. and remember, it was one of the states with a pretty severe lockdown, and we've seen places that lockdown not doing very well in the big picture as opposed to others. so coronavirus is going to lead the way. we talked to a number of biden advisors, they really are going to ramp up and try to get the national federal response, but a lot of other stuff will be thrown in there as well. >> harris: senator graham out this way. he's talking about a republican comeback. let's watch. >> they do what they're talking about doing, republicans will come roaring back in 2022. who will take back the house, take back the senate, and just in a few months, president trump will be looked at far differently than he is today.

>> harris: you know what i find interesting about this is the fact that you are going to get some moderate democrats who don't want to lean so far left until they fall over with where their party is going so republican comeback, but they also scoop up some of this disaffected, disenfranchised more moderate democrats? >> on a number of issues, they can and the flip side the moderate republicans or disaffected trump republicans if you want to call them that will also form this coalition. look for that to start forming right away. this is mitt romney, susan collins, lisa murkowski, joe manchin, mark kelly from arizona. you start to get ten, may be of those senators, and they can really steer an agenda on both sides even though the extreme is on both want to either stop it or just push a progressive agenda through.

>> harris: so interesting. you talk about an agenda. i'm talking about the 74 million americans who voted for president trump. will they be included in that conversation as well? a big important question. bret baier, thank you very much for being with me. some good news for conservative speech. parler is promising a comeback as well. meantime, twitter has suspended a republican house member while a left-wing capital rider still has access to the site. the focus on big tech next. and congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez says american taxpayers should foot the bill to deradicalize the white supremacist. she's pointing the finger at president trump. watch. >> there are people who are radicalized right now, and it's going to take a very long time, and it's going to take a long time and a lot of effort to deradicalize those people.

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>> harris: the parler social media web site is back online along with a message that the platform is working hard to welcome users back soon.

amazon suspended the app from its web hosting service last week and the company's ceo pushed back just yesterday on amazon's claim that it repeatedly warned parler that its content violated their agreement and they wanted them to delete that content. >> they never indicated to us that there was ever any serious or material problem with our app. we had no real indication that this was deadly serious. >> harris: fox business is looking into this. >> the science of parlor is in exactly back online just yet. if you visit the social media site now, you have a message from the ceo saying hello, world? is this thing on it. that's better than ever messages they were getting the past week after being d platforms and kicked off apple, all three removing parler with less than 12 hours, but said that parler

could make a return. >> we looked at the incitement of violence that was on there. we have only suspended them for us and if they get their moderation together, we would be back on there. >> still looking for another web site hosting provider but they have registered the main name, also still awaiting a ruling in its lawsuit against amazon for breach of contract and antitrust. phil remained defiant. they will resolve any challenge before mess and welcome all of you back soon. we will not let civil discourse parish. at last count, parler had 15 million users and jumped atop the most downloaded apps list, a

lot of followers that want to see it back online. >> harris: it is something that some of us watched as the election, those conservative voices who really felt like they weren't being heard. mine still says error message, fyi. susan li, thank you. ahead of this martin luther king jr. day, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez has shared some thoughts about bridging the racial divide in america and they involve government funding for deradicalization. dr. king's nieces with me next. stay close. here's huge news for veteran homeowners. introducing refiplus from newday usa. refiplus lets you refinance at record low rates to save money every month plus you could get an average of $50,000 cash. that's money for security today

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>> the white supremacist cause is futile. it is nihilist, and it will never be realized. there are people who are

radicalized right now and it is going to take a very long time, and it's going to take a long time and a lot of effort to d radicalized as people. now, that is not to say that all hope is lost. we probably need to double, triple, quadruple, or increase funding for these programs. >> harris: congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, pitching the idea to bridge america's racial divide, from her perspective. she went on to say president trump represents the "poison" of white supremacy. but on this dr. martin luther king jr. day, his niece, dr. alveda king, writes in a fox news op-ed, "when my uncle was killed on april 4th, 1968, i remember talking to my daddy about my feelings of hating white people. daddy rocked me in his arms and said to me, "white people march with us. they go to jail with us.

they pray with us. they live with us. and they die with us." white people didn't, uncle, the devil did." dr. alveda kang is with me now it is always a better day when i see it. >> same here, harris. happy new year. >> harris: thank you, happy new year. let's talk about bridging the divide from aoc's perspective. >> i believe that aoc really should take a page out of martin luther king jr.'s book, and his main textbook actually was the bible. now, my uncle talked about the law being able to help people not kill us, but he also said that the law cannot transform the human heart. so there are laws on the book now that will severely punish white supremacists, and that should be the case.

i have encountered white supremacists throughout my lifetime, and my 70th birthday is this week, so my daddy was killed in the height of the civil rights movement. we know my famous uncle was shot. my grandmother in the '70s, their mom, was killed. we know that white supremacy is wrong. it must be punished. but every crime against humanity is bad, so we have to protect human dignity, but not only with the law. we've got to transform. my uncle said that only love can drive out hate, you know? so we have to do both at the same time. >> harris: it's so true. you know, something caught my eye, and i want to share, we are putting up some pictures of dr. king, but there are other things i want to share. you and i have talked, in the not-so-distant past we were together for the funeral coverage that i anchored for

congressman john lewis. one of the things we talked about was how we each can become part of the answer in the solution by bringing people together, whether they resemble each other or disagree, what have you. i'm showing my audience some pictures of you and president trump. you have been there at some seminal moments. why were you there? that's a fair question, because you've got a really interesting answer. >> well, the picture on air force one, i'm there with my cousin, with bruce levell, and president trump is signing into law the martin luther king jr. park as a national park in atlanta. i was with him when he signed the criminal justice reform, the religious freedom act, all of those, i was there with the president. i believe it is very important, the work he has done for every community, including the unborn in the womb. i was there in the white house when he made a phone call there, and i was on the platform with him for march for life. i know president trump and i

appreciate each and every thing that he has done for human rights and human dignity. we can say pretty much half of american lives president trump, have hates him, and i have people who are angry with me saying, "i can't believe you supported him." i love every president. i pray for every president. i promise you that is true. it's the policies that matter, harris. that's why there are so many pictures. i apologize, i see on the screen that the sunshine is screaming into the room now and you see half of my face. >> harris: before i let you go, i want to get to this, because it's something you have said. the place where we can work together is to listen to one another. >> absolutely. as we listen, the human heart can be transformed. it's personal accountability. stay out of fights, pray, and communicate. love each other. >> harris: alveda king, thank you. i want to brag on you a little

bit, your show, "alveda king's house," celebrating legacy. through food and faith. streaming today, on foxnation.com. i want to thank everybody for watching the first "faulkner focus." i will see you each day during the week at this time. right now, keep it right here. you know what's about to happen. ♪ ♪ >> harris: we begin with a fresh look, thousands of migrants from honduras and el salvador making their way to guatemala in a caravan and headed for the united states. soldiers there trying to hold back that caravan, which is posing an early challenge for the incoming biden administration and its plans to overhaul our immigration system. an unnamed biden official reportedly told nbc news the migrants should not expect to come into the united states right away.