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number of senators and representatives to which the state may be entitled in congress. that's the united states constitution. your constitution. and the fact that i just read that will be considered controversial. controversial in the e radical left wing media and controversial by opinion columns all over this country. why? because i dare to reed to you a part of your constitution that was violated on election day at least four states. pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and georgia. i'm not seeking to relitigate this election i'm making a point the state legislature in the states need to fix the system. the courts particularly are the supreme court need to bring us back to our constitution. now, the fact that i say that, and the fact that i might link to articles that talk about that, makes me controversial.

and because i would talk like this, and length to the constitution and other issues of this sort, facebook began giving me the scarlet letter at what i was saying was -- in question what i was saying was factually inaccurate and after a while i got so sick of it. i voluntarily left facebook. i'm not going to put up with. nothing about this constitution or what i said incites any rational human being to do anything but be concerned about what took place in the states and one to have it fixed. so that's the nature at the free speech. that's the nature of principle. that's the nature of debate. that's what our country is all about. then i decided voluntarily to leave twitter when they decided to ban the president of the united states. from using their platform, and then we were hearing that other conservatives were being banned.

and that thousands of thousands of people all of a sudden for reasons they couldn't understand were being removed. well i'm not participating in that kind of economic totalitarianism. i believe in speech. and the channels of communication, american to american or american to foreigner in foreigner in to american are being choked off nows. especially for those who are not leftist. you don't have to be a conservative or a constitution constitutionalist but a reasonable knowledgeable human being who doesn't agree with the left and you are being punished. you're being caricatured and we cannot tolerate that as a nation. further more i'm not going to have my millions of listener and viewers be monetized by these multibillionaire monopolists. they use your name. they use your data and information, your private information without your knowledge to make money. they sell it. they trade it. god know what is they do with

it. that's not part of the bargain all you want to do is communicate. all you want is free speech. of course there are people ho go on these sites who are nasty people. who are diabolical people. there are people like that in our neighborhoods in our communities all over our country. but twitter doesn't really carry about them. they say they do but they don't and i'm going to prove it to you. from our friends of the daily wire. lewis account twitter still active. the most famous anti-semite routinely comparing jews to termite among other things heads of the notorious nation in islam tweeted i'm the not anti-semite but anti-termite twitter removed the verified dplek his account following a tweet about -- the satanic jew in synagogue of satan account remains active and

public as this program. chinese come in the united states may not know it as they point out in daily wire but chinese come in united states has their own twitter account with 7800 followers account spread propaganda on behalf of president xi jinping they use twitter to defend china's use of concentration camps other day in part of their ongoing genocide against muslims. the minds of muslim women and emancipated i'm the quoting and gender equality and reproductive health making them no longer baby making machines before saying that vehicles are more confident and independent and tweet since been deleted account has not. new york antifa account, for all of their talk of restricting those promoting violence, twitter still allows antifa accounts full access to the platform despite their by any

means necessary slogan and use of violent rhetoric a marxist violence organization -- they can't routinely dock individual deemed quote un, quote, nazi in other words anyone on the right sharing photo and personal information in attempt to intimidate and cohearse them. that page also reports photo and videos of so-called pashist being attacked on street and protest with gleeful caption you know people eating outside peacefully at a restaurant. so their account has not been banned by twitter. nicholas mokiller of venezuela despite running country in the ground and jailing anyone who stood in his way nicholas best known as human rights loving dictator of venezuela enjoys use of his twitter account aye itola other brutal murdering, dictators all over the world have twitter accounts.

and tweet -- and so they ban the president of the united states they're banning mainstream conservatives. they're banning mainstream constitutionalists. in this massive purge effort and so there may be nut jobs, there may be violent people. but they're painting with a broad brush that painting with a broad brush and taking as many people, thousands, tens of thousands of people off their site and banning them. so where do they go? where are these people going to go? well there's a little entrepreneur a little company that started up calling parler. parler -- when i heard about parler i said you know what, i'm going to go to parler i don't know who these people are it doesn't matter to me it is entrepreneurship it is free speech an communication with our fellow citizens. without some oligarch on the west coast looking over my shoulder and shoulder of my followers to determine what we

can and cannot say. and what i'm telling you today -- i'm old enough to tell you this. used to be basic civil liberties. that's the way it used to be. the left, the right, everybody in between understood speech understood there was hate and rest of it. but fought for speech. but not anymore. we've got the purging going on not the purging going on on the left. not the purging going on on marxist anarchist and perch of host on tv and writers who refer to so many of us as neonazis, and although that kind of hate speech and intolerance is apparently okay on twitter. and facebook -- and all of the rest of them. so they've all gotten together to try to put parler out of business. and they're also character assassinating this site by calling it a right wing site a controversial site it is a platform. there's nothing right wing or

controversial about it. except that they support free speech with apparently which is now right wing and controversial so i asked john mates the parler ceo to come on program so we can start from the beginning. find out who john is why he started parler and now what parler is facing something that's absolutely unprecedented. john mates how are you sir? >> hi, thank you for having me on. >> tell the nation a little bit about your background. what have you been doing? what caused you to start parler and so forth? >> well, i'm a software engineer so i started by developing iphone apps and i ran a consulting company doing that, and worked for various corporations, anything from you know the defense industry to actually amazon web services. so -- you know, a few years ago i saw trend in direction we were head welcome and i thought there's a need for more civil discourse for people to talk to one another.

to parlay with iewn another which is where you create parlay can want with two parties might not see eye to eye and might be violent in public but you know what it gives them a place to cool together to have a conversation and get through it together. and resolve their differences, and you know they might leave the conversation at least if they don't agree with each other they'll leave the conversation feeling a little bit better about the place so the whole concept is civil discourse conversation, meanwhile, you know, not having your information sold, traded or shared with corporations for profit. so the idea is free speech and privacy. so we wanted to combine those two things. mark: are you a right winger member of proud boys is your platform intended to create this -- this all right special cue non sort of environment? >> i would describe myself as a libertarian so no. i am not right wing no i'm not

cue none none of those things couldn't place me in a bucket anywhere, and if you have followed me on parler for some time, people may have noticed that i argue with people on the right conservatives, i argue with people on the left i argue with basically everybody because that's kind of a hobby of mine. you know civil discourse and stirring things up a bit. >> do you prevent liberal groups liberal organizations -- liberal politicians marxist progressive statist democratic socialist -- do you prevent them from coming on your site? >> no, of course, not. they're welcome on the site everyone is welcome. that's the whole point. you know we have to get conversation going again. mark: when did you actually start parler? >> in -- 2018 we started it. it took quite a long tile to get it up and running and on stores. but you know, 2018 was the first line of code there was --

you know, less than five of us. [laughter] mark: what city what town did you start it in your basement, bedroom did you start it in your office? >> well, you know las vegas is where we started it. henderson, nevada that's where we started everything and ran with it i had a consulting firm we were in a warehouse in a shady part of town, and you know we even ran our servers out of that warehouse so that's where we started so it was all of the employees from my previous consulting company that i ran. mark: john mates ceo parler when we return my question to you is this, parler you started it in 2018 now two and a half almost three years ago. was parler growing? before twitter and the other, others in california? targeted you and how quickly was it growing? we'll be right back.

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john matze parler, parler starts about two, two and a half years ago and as usual it is pledgeling and so forth yet you're picking up a lot of followers. tell us how your business model was taking off. >> you know, in 2019 we had, you

know, a few hundred thousand accounts i think is by the end of 2019, and by the end of 2020 we had, you know, 15 plus million accounts. you know we're growing. you know, january we were, you know, on some of the last days before we were -- we got the ax from amazon web services. we had almost a million new accounts created on that last day. we were number one on the app store. we were above facebook, we were above tiktok we were above youtube above instagram above every app on the app store in the united states we were number one. before we got the ax. and -- the business model was proving very, you know, it was working. our ads were not intrusive we were not using data to, you know, kind of predict people or mine people data we were presenting ads in a very what i like describe is humane way. so that we were --

you know, doing what i think is best for ads which is respecting people's privacy making tremendous amount of revenue from organic small businesses and helping them out. and so we've proved our model we proved our growth, and marketplace. mark: so the marketplace entrepreneurship was just too much for silicon valley to handle. so as i read it they colluded. every avenue of support to your business in order to run it, and in order to reach out to potential customers and so forth, was cut off. in order to choke you off and destroy you. these are companies that have no business -- that have no problem doing business with communist china. they've no problem doing business with all kinds of genocide dictator and so forth little parler was getting a little too big for its britches why do you think they focused on you and targeted you? >> well a few reasons. but you know in my opinion it seems our growth was --

was very high. and question didn't agree with their ideas on censorship. google apple, and amazon web services all agreed that our terms of service were acceptable. they never said publicly or anywhere as far as i'm aware -- that there was any problems with our terms of service and free speech. so instead they -- they seemed to make it about violence which we don't condone and don't allow. you know we don't allow violence or insurrection these are illegal acts. so it is very, very -- interesting that they all on the exact same day without previously indicating they never indicated to us -- that there was any serious or material problem with our app. but on the same day, you know all in the same day, they sending us very threatening notices so we said okay let's call this let's see what -- what google said they actually never e-mailed us and, you know, we have no way to contact them. okay so google is out.

apple let's call a rep we call a rep and they basically shrugged it off made no indication that this was deadly serious. despite their letter e-mail being very serious. and amazon, you know, as usual basically saying you know, oh, i never saw any material problems there's no issues. you know they played it off very nonchalantly so we had still even -- you know, on the 8th, 9th no real indication that this was -- deadly serious. mark: where's this matter you've sued amazon as i understand it. what's the status? >> well we are trying to get a -- we're trying to get our services back up and running so at least we can access our code repositories at least we can -- access our development and testing environment. you know this is an indication to me that seems really strange if -- if they believed that the social media itself was a problem -- you know, why did they shut off everything else too?

so that you know development, environment they shut off -- you know our ability to work and our ability to even access our own code and work on that. so you know, what they did -- mark: wait, this is important. this is important. you're saying that your own proprietary code other information, contact information, data information, you can't even access what actually belongs to you and your company? that they're preventing you from getting the information that is yours? >> they gave us a very small window to download it all while we were, you know, experiencing a lot of growth. and so question tried to download what we could but now we don't have anymore access. and what we also need is to be able to spin up our servers so that we can get some information which requires our servers to be running to get. and so yes, they're preventing us from doing that. at the moment. mark: they're really not

interested in stopping violence, are they? they're interested in stopping competition. and they're using their -- their so-called strength as a private company to exercise power this way. when, in fact, they're affecting discourse in the entire country, millions and millions of people and millions and millions of businesses. and if there was ever a time for companies to be broken up into a thousand pieces, because their purpose is dishonest their purpose is power, and money, and destroy any competition that exists. this is just my view. then the federal trade commission, the antitrust division, every state attorney general -- they should all be looking at this. they should be investigating these companies. and frankly, they should be breaking them up. and the fact of the matter is that now you have to sue this could take years. to resolve over course of a period of time while they are in

mark's opinion taken your proprietary information making it impossible for you to get it to even start up and go somewhere else. that is incredible to me. and by the way, apple the irony of am getting involved in this -- with these iphones many of them built in communist china by god knows who under what conditions wool they're worried about your platform and free speech. where they shut down the president of the united states. considering who they do business with -- is disgusting. it is absolutely disgusting. john matze ceo at parler let me ask you odd question if people want to get in touch with you where do they go? >> right now we have our e-mail up. but i don't know how much longer that is going to last. amazon and these companies all made very public and very harsh statements claiming that we were, quote, unquote breaching their terms of service for months they've been trying to

notify us. which -- i don't think is true at all. amazon sites they have 100 violation reports they sent to us which was true. but they sent them all to us on the 8th, and all at once even though even a week before they were trying to extend their partnership with us even more by offering us, you know, proprietary services, year long development plans, they're offering us development resources. you know this is no indication -- you know, that there were any material problems with our service. this was all just happening at the same time. age the fact that they made these very harsh public statements and they release them to the media along with us -- and amazon admitted that in their legal filings they leaked it to the media when they sent it to us. their statements to inflict maximum damage because now our s ms sfs provides amazon so they cited them they dropped us our

ability to talk to jury system our equivalent of a moderation team because we believe everybody is proven and judged by a jury of your peers we keangts twawk them now because the messaging service shut us off. and american express shut us off we had -- you know about every vender you can think of under sun has been shutting us off slowly and they're all citing the harsh words of amazon and apple and so this was -- in any opinion intended inflict maximum damage on parler itself. mark: ceo of apple if you would like come on this program we would be more than happy to have you and not getting softball questions on the program but you're a big boy you can come on this program. all right john matze we'll et keep monitoring this for the sake of the country and free speech thank you and good luck to you. >> thank you very much. mark: we'll be right back.

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being forced to sleep in a cold parking garage. and investigation underway into a deadly tour bus crash in arizona. the vehicle was on its way to the grand canyon when it flipped on to its side the accident leaving one person dead and dozens injured. at least 3 people we main hospitalized in serious condition. a fire official says, speed appears to be a factor in the accident. i'm jon scott, i'll see you for the fox report tomorrow, now back to life, "life, liberty & levin." mark: welcome back america there's another entrepreneur out there who has started a company called rumble which i also like very, very much and transition over there and competing with companies like youtube, and his name is chris ceo founder of rumble now chris tell us about

you. when did you decide to start and how did you start rumble? >> so i've been in internet face for two decades now i started building websites out of my parents' basement and i was in video space competing against tons of different websites and specifically around 2005 youtube emerged. and we were competing against youtube. and then by 2007, 2006 there was a cat clizzic event in the states where google acquired youtube basically from that point on all of the sites like world college humor, the ones that i had became pretty much non existent because of the in my opinion the vertical integration of youtube into the engine. twern i started rumble we started rumble on premise of the fact that the little guy, the little creator no longer getting

distribution and getting -- monotyization on their videos anymore they were now kind of being hidden silenced in a way. if you remember, youtube in 2006, 2007, 2008, the home page was full of home generated content things that me and you would film at home and videos like charlie bit my finger as the largest videos only the platform but 2013, it was only large icons influencers big media corporations, and that's who was getting all of the distribution on youtube platform and little guy left completely behind. so we built the platform in 2013 on the premise of helping the little creator bringing voice back they were being censored in a way that no one really saw and no one really -- no one really noticed until about 2020 and based on what we're seeing now, in 2020 it is happening across the censorship is happening across spectrum not just the little creator but it is happening to big creator influencers, the president.

you name it it is happening to everyone unless platform likes it. mark: youtube you're right now have been devoured by google who runs youtube? is there a ceo at youtube? >> yes i believe there's a ceo at youtube. and it's owned by google. google owns youtube. mark: google now has power i guess the reason they acquired youtube to promote youtube and crush its competitor and as that what it's done and how's it doing it? >> so we filed a lawsuit this week on monday, and our complaint alleges that google is self-preferencing youtube and search results. and google is also preinstalling youtube app on mobile devices which makes it -- next to impossible for companies like us to compete. and in our complaint we allege that -- we have chronicle evidence in our complaint that alleges up to

9.3 visitors redirected to youtube and instead of rumble which, you know, resulted in us losing over 100 million uploads 100 million videos that creators could have brought to rumble and over 2 billion dollars in damages. but the -- the thing that's really upsetting and makes me really sad is that you know, i was that guy that built that website out of my parents 'basement it is not just rumble that has been injured here. it is every consumer that is getting injured here. it is every -- creator on rumble that is getting injured and every business and person that gets injured here because it is rigged. it is on my opinion that search engine is completely rigged no one really even knows about it. we talk lots about, you know, having free speech in the last year. but when you really look at first amendment violation is that it is censored and you don't even know it that search engine is rigged in a way where you don't know if there's rigging against, you know, cute

cats and dogs which is our complaint they can be rigging it against anything. from politics, to the local bakery, to nobody who wants to be in that search engine and wants to list their business or wants to compete. they don't have a chance in this market if it is being -- rigged the way we allege. mark: so google and i would say twitter, and facebook, and rest of them, they give a public face where they say come join us. come on our platform enjoy them we have all kinds of videos you can have all kinds of speech and you can have community discussion and lengths and here we are promoting americanism really free speech, and entrepreneurship. while behind scene they're crushing competition. they're crushing competition. google is the 800 powpgd gorilla it is twal a thousand found gorilla because everybody goes into google most people to do their searches. what they're dmoing their

searches is they're moving people to youtube away from rumble away from anybody else. pushing them into youtube so everybody goes to youtube and user has no idea that they're being played this way, do they? >> well that's the key it is of my opinion that this is happening. and that is scariest part nobody has a clue this is happening manage you're going to google you're searching for something, and you're thinking that you're getting a free and fair search where everything is lining up in results the way, you know, a machine would line it up without any bias or without any tilting. but you know, you look in our complaint, and one of the things we allege is that if you type in funny dogs on rumble because you're looking for funny dogs on rumble funny dog videos on rumble you're only going to get funny dog videos on youtube so how is that fair? how is it fair that they're indexing listing only youtube

result when is people are actually have the intengt to go look for rumble videos? that's unfair nobody knows this is happening and i think this is where our complaint is superimportant because it has, it has evidence in my opinion that really i haven't seen anyone else have. we have chronicled this over 7 years over the last year we put together evidence that, you know, i think that -- i don't believe i can't say for certain but no complaint that has this type of evidence that shows this that shows where traffic is going. shows the type of results that are being -- that are being changed how they're being changed not just rumble but other sites to sending kate this and tested this and it shows how stacked it and that is like extremely scary because everyone is under assumption that everything is happening fairly when you're going to check facts or you're going look for funny dogs but in

the reality, in my opinion, and what we allege in the complaint that's actually not happening. and that is superfrightening because lives are getting affected by that big time. >> well, i just want to also extend to the ceo of google you're twok come on this program. ceo of apple ceo of any of the big tech companies we would love to have you you can come one or come all i don't really care but we'll give you a full hour discussion with me myself and i. we'll be right back. i have an idea for a trade. oh yeah, you going to place it? not until i'm sure. why don't you call td ameritrade for a strategy gut check? what's that? you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator. voila! maybe a couple throw pillows would help. get a strategy gut check from our trade desk.

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mark: welcome back and were back with crist ceo founder of rumble which seeks to be a competitor of youtube. which has been gobbled up by google, and google doesn't want any competitors for youtube. so chris, tell us the

consequences of google trying to basically push you out of the space. behind the scenes with the customer and consumer has no idea. what is -- how would you phrase that and call that? >> so, you know, there's been a lot of discussion about free speech. and one of the things i would like to, you know, highlight is the censorship that's happening. and it's the sensor sheship thas extremely scary because it is the part that everyone where everyone thinks they have free speech for last seven, ten years, they actually haven't had it. it's because in the way the way i see it, it is in why it is so bad is because you think you have it when you don't have it and that's really scary. because take a look at this, for example we have people that join rumble on our platform and they come on our platform been on youtube four years one example, and they've unmask 10,000 sub

subscribers on youtube join rumble come on platform six months they have half a million subscribers. and now you've got to ask yourself, how does that happen? how is it that a small platform like rumble can grow -- a subscriber -- a channel significantly larger than youtube can? and the reason behind that is, one, is not because we're bigger. we're so small. not because we have better at ai. not because we have better suggested videos or worst suggested videos or worse serge engine or better serge engine something is happening behind scenes that nobody is seeing and in the last year, you everyone has been kind of worried about free speech. but imagine in the last seven years being censor and thinking you have free speech. >> to sum up your point which i think is extremely important there are things going on in shadows as you give an example

you have a massive youtube platform that is promoted by this massive company, google. and the customer has 10,000 followers then they come to tiny rumble job your company with no google promoting it and google putting brakes on it. and they jump the 500,000. they had 10,000 now they have 500. something is wrong and you're right. of what's going on, boardrooms and executive room and management rooms and google, where that one individual or that one company had 10,000 now they have half a million. it makes no sense whatsoever you're exactly right and i think the word censorship is the right word. we'll be right back. recent cli, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas.

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mark: welcome back chris, ceo founder of rumble. now, if this can affect the commercial world, i assume it can affect the political world. meaning, we have no idea the extent to which google might be doing the same thing when it comes to politics promotion of a candidate, promotion of an issue, promotion of a party. or the opposite.

censoring position a party, or a candidate so we have no idea or at least not any kind of transparency into this do we? >> no the only, only thing that we allege and what we've been able to find out is that they're tilting scales for funny dog, and cute cats and cute babies, and home base videos content that's only thing we allege. but if they're doing it for dogs, and they're doing it to accompany like rumble it is fair game they're probably in my opinion doing it across spectrum in every category. why -- why wouldn't they if they're doing it on dogs funny dogs. they have a monopoly on funny dogs right now that is crazy. that is frightening. >> you know what amazes me is the extent to which -- individuals in the federal government are so passive they want to regulate everything the fact there's not a damn thing that's not regulated. except these companies.

these companies are not transparent. we have no idea how they're working. they are affecting every one of our lives. they have persuaded to participate in platform businesses using our private data selling our private data becoming extraordinarily rich and now they're getting involved in activities commercial and political and will not reveal themselveses so you have to keep looking under sheets to see what's going on and every now and then you get a peek but that's really private citizens or other companies trying to find out what's taking place chas going on when it comes to competition of ideas or competition of products or competition of businesses. it is amazing to me how the antitrust division at the united states department of justice so the federal trade commission are committing of congress refuse to seriously dig into this to find out how we the people are being affected commercially, politically, our speech,

censorship, and all of it why do you think that they're so silent about it could it be political contributions? >> i have no idea. all i know is that rumble we're going to fight we're going fight this good fight, and we're going try our best to bring balance to the home base video content as much as we possibly can. i think our complaint is really important in bringing a fair balance and taking away timenting of the scale when is it comes to search engine and mobile devices. and i will do everything i can to stand up for all consumers, and bring fair, a fair and balance ecosystem to everybody. mark: i wish you all of the luck in the world all of the small companies and entrepreneurs out there. i wish you all of the best and we need to get involved in this we the people not sitting on sidelines observing whag happening to our krpght. chris founder, ceo of rumble good luck and god bless you. >> thank you for having me. mark: we'll be right back. at ar?

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mark: welcome back. this country was founded like no other country to have individual liberty and protect civil society. we have the 1619 project in the "new york times." we have marxist organizations who believe our history is diabolical. we have people attacking the very essence of our country which is speech. these robber barrons, almost all of them are democrats and liberal. if you look at our broadcast

companies other than fox. they are run by liberals. we are having a monopoly of communication and ideas. whether it affects the political aspect of our society, people are getting purged through a purification process. words are being put in their mouths. broadcasters like me have to watch everything i say or else they will twist it and say i'm a member of the klan. me, a jew, a member of the klan? there is no respect for liberty. no respect for the individual, and no respect for the constitution. so we the people have to be village lent. we have to be heard in a peaceful and civil way. we have to make sure the poll stations we elect share our principles. we have to fight back in court

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