they rallied in those last games, and now they've gone on the road and won three games on the road, including drew breese and aaron rodgers, the mvp, to get there. it was unlikely but now he's here. stealing your new book is called "talking to goats." i always say i like to be where there's a good pastor. that's what the super bowl is going to be paid good to see you, jim gray. thank you. this has been "faulkner focus." thanks for watching. now, "outnumbered." fox news alert, a fourth straight night of silence and far left protesting in the pacific northwest. americans are still waiting to hear reaction from the biden administration. antifa activists from portland, oregon, reportedly among those who took to the streets in tacoma, washington, last night. this in response to a police officer who drove his squad car through a crowd of illegal street racers after the crowd

surrounded and banged on his cruiser. authorities say rioters vandalized numerous buildings and set fires, including the burning of the american flag. at least to kill police cars also reportedly were damaged in all of this. a mob surrounded a jail, as well. watch. [crowd chanting] protesters there were trying to break through a sense, demanding all prisoners be released, and reportedly they were breaking windows of the bail bond office and the county building. this comes one day after people were targeting the i.c.e. facility in portland demanding an end to deportation and borders. >> this is a declared an unlawful assembly. anyone trespassing on federal

property is subject to arrest. >> harris: all right, see so you go from one title, protesters, from an unlawful assembly. you are easing your way into rioting. president biden has yet to condemn the far left violence and all that is happening in the days since his inauguration. and it's only been a few. white house press secretary jen psaki was asked about the protesting. >> does the president have any comment on the ongoing violence in oregon and washington state? >> i haven't spoken with him specifically about those events but it is something our national security team, and homeland security advisor, is closely monitoring, of course. >> harris: you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, emily compagno. host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy. "town hall" editor and fox news contributor, katie pavlich. joining us on the virtual couch in the center seat, founder and executive director of the turning point usa, charlie kirk. great to see everybody.

emily compagno, congratulations. there's a reason why we are right next to each other. let's brady bunch ed, let's try and look at each other. which way do we look? is it this way? [laughter] now, it's the other way! they may go. emily is joining us as our permanent new cohost on the program, and we want to congratulate her. let's tell her how excited we are. one day we'll be able to reach through the boxes and touch each other again, because we'll be on the couch. i am so directionally challenged. welcome, and congrats. >> emily: harris, thank you so much. obviously first and foremost it is just such an honor to be a part of the "outnumbered" team and the fox family, and i am filled deeply with gratitude and so much excitement. i am just thrilled, so thank you so much for your kind words and i look forward to looking with you every day moving forward. secondly, maybe just as importantly, coming from a super -- all our thoughts are with patrick mahomes for the chiefs to take down tom brady.

[laughs] >> harris: thank you very much for that, we appreciate that! let's get our own rally started here on "outnumbered" and talk about something that apparently is difficult. charlie kirk, for the biden administration to talk about. when we saw jen psaki at the lecture and inside the white house press briefing room, it was, to me, at least, as a reporter, a little shocking to see she wasn't prepared on that question. "i haven't talked to the president." you're talking about mass events we people may not be covid-ready, as we say. that is supposed to be more than offensive to democrats, it's supposed to set their world upside down and get some comments. she didn't have one. >> charlie: no doubt. look, all violence in all forms should be condemned. the democrats, alongside almost all republicans, condemned what happened at the capitol about two and a half weeks ago. now we are seeing massive unrest in our country on the other side of the coast, and i don't see that same sort of condemnation. by the way, they are going after

federal courthouses, they went after the democratic national committee headquarters, i believe, a couple days ago. what i see here is kind of a biden administration that is not totally prepared to handle some of these threats, or at least how to communicate their condemnation of it. i think they are a little surprised by it, quite honestly. just be very clear, some of these agitators i think are not just protesting biden or republicans, just the system. they seem to be anarchists. however, the silence and the lack of preparedness from the biden administration is very telling in this regard. >> harris: that's a word i've been using, anarchy and anarchists. kennedy? >> kennedy: yes, it has gotten really frustrating for residents in places like portland and seattle, who would love to get back to work. they would love to have any sort of normalcy. this is biden country, and now these are not people who are just protesting the trump

administration, which is what we were told over the summer that these were very concerned social justice warriors, and their biggest fear was that president trump would be reelected. he was not, joe biden was elected, and they are just as upset with him. if they are kicking down the system, what i want to know is, what are they offering? what is the alternative? is this what they are offering? just angry, destructive, violent mobs? i don't want to be ruled by that. i don't want to be a part of that. mostly, they are anonymous. they don't want to sit down with anyone. whatever they are vague because it is, they are way too cowardly to sit down and enumerate what it is they are actually seeking. they are just a bunch of board, violent violent, idiots. >> harris: we have an opportunity here, though, kennedy. we can investigate and find out exactly who these people are, because we have every right as americans to know that. katie, if they are attacking buildings that our tax payer money pays for, if they are

tearing down businesses, surrounding cops, and doing other things, those are law-breaking activities that we can get into. why not, as the biden administration, did they just come forth and say, "we are going to investigate, we want to know these people are?" and maybe they can tell you what they are about. >> katie: talked about the white house press secretary being caught off guard, but this has been happening over and over again for months on end. we have a reporter with townhall.com at a lot of these different riots in portland and seattle, riots across the country, for months on end now. taking footage of private businesses being attacked, private citizens being accosted in the streets, federal government buildings. there is a response from the federal government when attorney general bill barr sent in a number of federal agents to defend the courthouse in portland. but the truth of the matter is that this is a local issue. you have the mayors of seattle and portland unwilling to do

anything to permanently put down this mob, to prosecute these people, and you have the city councils who have defunded the police in a lot of ways. it in the end the people of portland and seattle are going to have to take control of their city councils, their mayor, and tell them that they are sick and tired of rioting on a regular basis in their cities and they want to see these people behind bars. you have prosecutors unwilling to follow through on charges or judges throwing out the charges, or getting very light sentences and not putting them in prison. that becomes a real problem for the people of portland and seattle. >> harris: i want to segue there and go right to the legal expert, who has just joined us with all of her brilliance. emily compagno, there are some tools in the toolkit. but, my goodness, don't you have to crack them open and use them? >> emily: that's exactly right. the tools have to work together. what i mean by that, let's take seattle for a moment. after the police chief retired because she was at odds with

that city council that stripped the police department here of all the resources, in the interim, we have a police chief, officer police chief diaz has come out and said, "clearly, without deterrence, without consequent is for this behavior, this destruction will keep happening and exponentially increased." he has come out in this interim and said, "i want to prosecute rioters who destroy property. i will not be arresting and want to see him prosecuted." he says, "this is an agreement i've made with the city attorney." but the misdemeanor policies haven't changed, harris. my point is, without arrest, prosecution doesn't work. everything is interrelated and intertwined. since the spring, 600 people at least have been arrested here in the city with barely any prosecuted and without the policies changing, even the prosecutor himself cannot bring this charges. as it stands right now, the only thing it really affects is when people are out on their own personal recognizance or they'll

painting the police chief is saying, "once they've interested four or five times, that's when we can book them in jail." what kind of deterrence is that? as katie pointed out, for all those people who live here who are seeing their livelihoods destroyed and their city burned down, it's not an exaggeration to say that they are fed up and totally confused as to why it is falling on deaf ears. finally click point, the statute of limitations for christmas to misdemeanors here is two years. we are already coming up on one. >> harris: wow. four or five tries, and strikes are out. imagine paying your bills like that. "don't pay it, when you get to the fifth notice, you know what i'm saying?" [laughter] wow family lives on. several states and big cities are now listing covid-19 restrictions on indoor dining. why critics are questioning the timing of all of this. and a second migrant caravan is set to begin to make its way to the united states today. will that put pressure on the biden white house to reverse

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taking office the president had this to say. >> is this pandemic rages on, there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months. >> emily: critics are now slamming biden, saying the president had been saying for months that restrictions and mandates were necessary to change the trajectory of the pandemic. now there is nothing we can do? charlie kirk, i will start with you on this. indeed, nothing we can do sounds like a stark contrast to the constellation of action items and restrictions that were promised to us by the biden administration during the campaign that would, in fact, change the trajectory. >> charlie: that's right, that was a major part of his criticism of president donald trump. "i have a plan, the current president doesn't have a plan, i'm going to trust the scientists, follow the science, donald trump isn't and won't." and yet look at what we have right here, and admission the nothing is going to change for the next couple months, and in a very puzzling fashion right now we are seeing california,

new york, and illinois start open up. in fact, just in the last couple minutes, governor gavin newsom is lifting the regional stay-at-home orders seeing some gems and restaurants can reopen. this is infuriating for those of us who have seen small business owners and entrepreneurs go bankrupt and close their businesses. what has actually changed? in fact, if they are going by infection rates were hospitalization rates, they are always in the margin of error of what they said justify the lockdowns in the first place. this admission by president biden is very much two-face because he said all along he was the man with a plan he would fix everything, just give him power and everything the better. now he says, "there's not much i can do paid by the way, i'm very upset that president biden giveo credit, zero whatsoever, to the heroic work at president terms of administration to the last year. the vaccine, the ppe, all of it. he acts as if he started from nothing which is not true whatsoever. >> emily: katie, on sunday

president biden's nominee for secretary of health and human services, xavier becerra, came out and said, "what he means is it's like a plane taking a nosedive and you have to put up it'll take time. but yes, we would change this trajectory. it's under control." how is that mixed messaging providing any type of consistency for us? >> katie: well, it is certainly a broken campaign promise. joe biden and his entire campaign was about covid and how he would be a better person to handle this on the federal government level. but, to be clear, and helping these governors and mayors in these blue states and cities are opening up, allowing people to get back to work. what is despicable and infuriating is that they refuse to release the reasons with scientific and hard data as to why. the timing here is very suspicious. you have a number of red states, red state mayors, governors, coming out and opening up their economies while also balancing this issue of fighting the pandemic. they've done very well. and you have some of the biggest economies like california and

new york continuing to be shut down, all for political purposes. when restaurant owners were asked in california, for example, they asked the government to provide data and scientific facts to back up the reasons why they are being shut down, and the reasons why they are being forced not to work, while friends of the governor and industries like the hollywood industry, for example, were given special permits to have outdoor dining while they shut down small businesses, they can't provide any of that. they have to be held accountable. i know that governor newsom is up for recall, a number of people are trying to get him out of office now as a result of his decision-making, but this affected real people. their livelihoods were destroyed for generations, and yet now all the sudden they are throwing their hands up and saying, "it's convenient for us to open now that joe biden is the president." it's just terrific. >> emily: that's exactly right, katie. let's dig into that a little deeper. several cities and states have announced plans to...

restrictions at indoor dining. less than a week after a change at the white house. many of these moves in blue states and democrat-run cities. lifting restrictions is expected to give those local economies a boost in the early days of the biden administration after months of shutdowns that strangle businesses while president trump was in charge. kennedy, taking that a step further, then, that's exactly right, we really haven't seen any change in the numbers of transmissions or hospitalizations since mid-december, and yet the death count has risen, so it seems that these regulations are based on flimsy numbers at best, and obviously opportunistic at worst. what do you think? >> kennedy: yes, and there has not been data to support shutting down all of these businesses, and so many -- 30% of businesses here in new york city, of restaurants, rather, will never open again. and the states and cities have

abandoned a lot of these restaurateurs and other small business owners, without pointing to scientific data. that shows a direct correlation between outdoor dining and contracting the virus. so, they have known all along that the science doesn't support it, but now, conveniently, they are allowing some of these restaurants to reopen, and it is heartbreaking to think that they were withholding that freedom for places to responsibly do business for political reasons. if that is the case, then the cities and states are run by some incredibly callous politicians. that is a horrible, horrible thing. >> emily: harris, that word kennedy's jumped out at me, "abandoned." she is exactly right, these people were abandoned by the government. not only abandoned, but also punished. a lot of these businesses have been fined thousands of dollars as they themselves invested thousands of dollars in their own businesses trying to comply

as rules changed by the day. what do you say about that? >> harris: well, and i'm listening carefully to all of you all here, and the other word i want to add, you can use "abandoned," you can use "used." governor cuomo said to the state, he just said, we are looking at months of shutdowns in the economic, mental, and spiritual hardship they bring. we need to begin to act now. if we don't, dining will remain at levels too low for restaurants to survive. as he was saying that, we look deeper, right now only one county in new york state has opened up for indoor dining. so, i mean, he can speak it, but he can also make it happen. why is there a gap in between those two things? what just woke up this particular governor to wanting to do something? people got used in the middle because they became that thing that they were able to focus on, that was broken. indoor dining, it's going to spread there. but the evidence wasn't there.

it was about 1% in new york, and is no evidence of outdoor dining on either coast. somebody tell gavin newsom now that he has opened it up, it's probably not going to change anything now that he has. it is, too late, and b, it was never part of the evidence structure anyway. >> emily: exactly right. >> harris: and ask them how the dining on his own is going, by the way, when you talk to him. at a michelin-star restaurant. >> emily: how does french laundry taste? [laughs] all right, senator josh hawley taking aim at cancel culture and big tech censorship. what he says it's time to stand up against the meddling of america. plus, for months san francisco has spent millions housing some of its homeless population and hotels. now president biden may force u.s. taxpayers to foot the bill. ♪ ♪ people were afraid i was contagious. i felt gross. it was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx. four years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx.

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tech censorship after his own new book cut canceled by simon & schuster. he found a new publisher, as we've been reporting, and in "the new york post" op-ed entitled "it's time to stand up against the muzzling of america," senator hawley writes this. "tech titans have already booted dozens of conservatives off social media, and if they had their way, half the house republican conference would be expelled from congress. the alliance of leftists and woke capitalists hopes to regulate the innermost thoughts of every american, from school-age to retirement. and they've trained and forces of the woke orthodoxy to monitor dissent or behavior." that is deep, and emily, some are saying today that is a lot of thought about thought. [laughs] and it is. they are really worried about our thoughts, apparently, the

cancel culture. >> emily: that's exactly right. at how quick to judge. i was surprised that his op-ed got published, it seems like "the new york post" is one of the last bastions of being able to publish, being able to put forth differing opinions without them having to subscribe to it on their own. that's what media is supposed to be, right? it has devolved, in my opinion, to a source of advocacy. every time you read an article it's like reading a persuasive brief but without the supporting data. now it is trickling into all kinds of aspects of our industry. we found out, for example, a lot of big-name companies have already pulled out a super bowl advertisement, including coke and hyundai, for fear of offending viewers. it's really for fear of cancellation. >> harris: we want to get inside the white house now where president biden has met with the vice president, kamala harris, and secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs. they are talking right now about transgender in the military.

let's watch. >> president biden: thank you again. all right. thank you. it's a long way to come just for that. >> come on, you guys. let's move. let's go, please. thank you. thank you for coming. [dog barking] >> harris: the president of the united states signing several executive orders today. that about allowing transgender individuals into the military. he is expected to sign an executive order later today on buying american. i wanted everybody to see some of the newsmaking going on inside the white house. he is anticipated to speak a little later. he didn't take any questions there, you saw him get up, he was about to exit after sending that order.

let's get back to the conversation now, if we can, about -- emily, we were just talking about where we are in terms of the cancel culture. >> emily: right. just to sort of finish my last point a little bit more in depth, i was talking about how companies are now terrified to even advertise during the super bowl for fear of offending viewers, in this contentious political landscape." but i point out that's where risks have been taken in the past. remember in 2013, cheerios' biracial couple add pay less than ten years ago it was a big deal, but it was fantastic they were taking a stand into something we can all get behind. of course, kendall jenner's failed pepsi ad, the tone-deaf one. there is risk taking, you could argue. here they are not even seizing on that potential for huge advertising dollars to be returned back into their company for fear, again, of being canceled. >> harris: charlie, is there a certain amount of power that we

don't wish to be canceled just for being different, no matter what that is? my parents talked about in the 1950s. they were being canceled because they were black. is there a certain amount of power that we have against this? had to be cited? senator hawley says we do have power. >> charlie: yeah, we do. that's ready push back against it is to argue for a free speech, dialogue, difference of opinions and ideas. right now the power is in the people doing the canceling. a lot of people in the middle that might have any difference of opinion, that might have any sort of question that might be not allowed to be asked, they just stay silent. that's the real tragedy, the great silencing of america, is that we don't have those kinds of robust discussions or conversations anymore. if you say one thing wrong it might result in losing a contract, a job, you might lose your livelihood. senator josh hawley is spot on right here. i also think that we have a broader conversation about what it actually means to have freedom of speech in our

country, especially when it comes to tech, social media, and a lot of these problems originate with college campuses. something i'm pretty familiar with. more so than anything else, i know that josh hawley is pinpointing one of the most important cultural issues in our country. >> harris: kennedy, real quickly, before we go to commercial break, i see it as a sign of weakness that somebody can't have a debate with someone that doesn't resemble or hold similar views. i mean, it should be a challenge to debate and come together with great ideas. >> kennedy: that is a fantastic point, and it really does show a lack of confidence in your own ideas, if you can't even be challenged by someone who might have a different point of view. in addition to canceling, there's also othering. when you other someone who has a different viewpoint, you are in essence saying that everything about them is inadequate. and there isn't room for someone else's discussion. what i really miss is comedy,

because there's a lot of comics now that will not step foot on a college campus. >> harris: yeah. >> kennedy: the freedom to make fun of things and make people laugh, that used to be sacred in our culture. i will mourn that until it comes back at some point. >> harris: well, i won't have to mourn it, because you're one of the funniest people i know. you just keep being kennedy. love you. [laughter] a "new york times" deep dive into president biden's face takes a sharply different tone than the media coverage of his fellow catholic supreme court justice,. double standard? we will get into it. plus, we could see a repeat of the violent scene at the guatemalan border, as a new migrant caravan is set to head now -- or at least try to head -- to the united states. next, how texas is targeting the biden administration's politics. stay close. ♪ ♪

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>> emily: welcome back. we are learning a second migrant caravan is set to leave honduras today, at least 3,000 migrants could attempt to cross into guatemala and start heading for our southern border. this, only days after guatemalan authorities blocked the first caravan of the year and a series of violent standoffs involving batons and tear gas. back in the u.s., texas attorney general ken paxton is now suing the by administration over its trees on most deportations. arguing it will, "immediately endanger citizens and law enforcement." katie, i'd like to sit with you on this. you know so much about our border protection and also about the interplay between the united states administration and the mexican administration, and farther south administrations. all of those who are crucial to managing the surge going through each respective party. what do you foresee happening as we have not heard from president oprah door on that he would relax the immigration reform policy he put into place

as as a result of present terms pressure can acquit you foresee happening under the biden administration? >> katie: the reason why a lot of these and other governments, like the mexican and guatemalan government and those in the triangle down to north and south america, excited to help the trump administration stopping these caravans coming through is they knew they would backstop inside their own countries. if you have a border at the southern border of the united states and mexico saying, "we have to have border security, there's a new process, you can't just come in and get released never to show up to your court date again," that created a backlog and therefore these are the countries are willing to work with us to stop this illegal immigration through their own country. when you have an open border with mexico and you are not enforcing these deportation orders, or allowing people to come in, falsely claim asylum, and be released in the country never to be seen again, that allows the mexican government or the guatemalan government to

say, "i would be stop these people from coming to our country when they are just passing through, when the united states is going to take them?" i think the surgeons will get worse. they are very serious concerns that we don't have enough time to address today that we've talked on the show about before, the fact that we are in a pandemic, that dhs does not have the resources to test all these people inside their facilities, on and on. this will only get worse when you have joe biden saying we are going to stop deportation orders, stop the building of the law, and stop people from coming here without any kind of reform. >> emily: charlie, to katie's point, president biden is essentially, with a swipe of a pen, trying to undo four years worth of diplomacy and reform that has had a real positive impact on illegal immigration. will it be successful? >> charlie: that is exactly right, i don't think it will be. president trump worked amazingly well with a lot of our partners in central america to try and have them stem some of these caravans and also give them

local assistance. do you remember, i think it was a year and a half ago trump threatened tariffs on mexico. this is something the buy demonstration is going to have to address. i'm very skeptical because it seems as if the democratic party more and more wants a free flow of people between all countries and kind of an open border policy. you have to make it very clear whether or not he actually wants strong borders or if he wants something closer to the european model where you are able to regionally migrate to the country of your choosing, which you already know has significant costs in american wages and the other costs we've talked about. >> emily: kennedy, click final point to you. >> kennedy: the immigration policy in this country is way too confusing and unfortunately president biden is only making it worse. there are a lot of people who have been hit hard by the pandemic, and they are truly suffering in countries like honduras, guatemala, and el salvador.

they are very confused, because they are hearing that deportations are stopping, there's now a path to citizenship, and it would be a natural assumption that the southern door is wide open. all that is doing is putting thousands and thousands of people at risk. if congress wants to fix this, they have got a democrat majority, they should fix immigration. i don't think they have the stones to do it. >> emily: [laughs] i agree. "the new york times" getting slammed for labeling president biden the "most religiously observant president in 50 years." that's not the only reason critics are claiming a double standard on faith and politics. details and debate, next. ♪ ♪

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>> sandra: "america reports" coming up. press secretary jen psaki holding a press briefing at the top of the eye, as the present reviews his strategy. impeachment against president trump tonight, republican senator john cornyn because the move "unnecessarily vindictive." he joins us live. how about tom brady's big night last night? we are covering all of it. "america reports," joined john roberts and me at the top of the hour.

>> kennedy: the piece calls him "perhaps the most religiously observant commander-in-chief and half a century." which critics say appears to forget president george w. bush and jimmy carter. the piece also notes that biden's "catholic faith" grounds his life and his policies, and reads in part, "with mr. biden, a more liberal christianity is ascendant, less focus on politics and more about combating poverty, climate change, and racial inequality." amen! [laughter] charlie, they had no problem demonizing supreme court justice amy coney barrett for her catholicism, and there were some very visible people actively attacking her for having a family that was too large. adopted children there were only there for show. it was a really disgusting display, and at the center of that attack was her catholicism.

why is it different with president biden? >> charlie: it's different because he's a liberal, he's a democrat. love to hear of senator dianne feinstein thinks the dogma live is loud he was in joe biden. i'd love to have that question asked. whenever conservatives or republicans talk about their faith, it's a negative, as if they are living in dogmatic medieval times. never a liberal such as raphael warnock or joe biden, it is talked about very admirably, as if that is why they do what they do. this is something that is very concerning, because it seems as if the media will only cover someone's deeply held religious beliefs favorably if they have and they hold the correct sets of public policy measures for the rest of the country. if you are a conservative and a christian like i am, you immediately get boxed into something that is either xenophobic or out of the mainstream of our country. this is of no stunning surprise, but at least now we have a marker down that it's okay to be catholic in public life. i'm glad "the new york times" at least made that clear.

>> kennedy: that's true, because catholics have taken a big hit over the years, katie. we have this very interesting discourse, but i know you covered this. do you remember when justice kavanaugh was being confirmed, and they went all the way back into his high school and also used his faith against him in the confirmation process? it got pretty nasty, and a lot of pundits on the left have really celebrated secularism. are we seeing a shift there? >> katie: yeah, the left is perfectly fine with using religion when it is convenient for their own political purposes. this "new york times" piece said that joe biden governs as his faith dictates. that's actually not true. he said he's a catholic, but he is pro-abortion. you had the white house secretary, press secretary, saying she couldn't give an answer on whether he still

supports the hyde amendment, which prevents taxpayer money being used for abortion. if you go back to the amy coney barrett supreme court nomination hearing, you had a number of democrats in the left in the media saying she was part of a cult because she was part of the catholic group that she was part of in college, and during her time as a law school professor. and also during her confirmation hearing is a federal judge, you had dianne feinstein saying the dogma lives loudly within her, and that's going to be a problem and why she was going to vote against her confirmation. the left is happy to his religion when it serves political purpose, as a convenience, and happy to use it as a weapon against anybody they disagree with politically, especially on the issue of abortion when it comes to faith. >> kennedy: hypocritical hogwash, i say! thank you, katie. san francisco has one of the west thomas problems in the country, and a new executive order from president biden, we may all have to pay for it. that sounds awful. that's next. ♪ ♪ it's a new day for veteran homeowners.

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>> harris: federal tax dollars, as in your dollars, and mine, may pay to house homeless people in san francisco hotels. this, after president biden signed an executive order allowing for certain kinds of emergency homeless housing to be eligible for reimbursement. san francisco reportedly has one of the highest homeless populations in the nation. it has spent 15000000 to $18 million a month to house homeless people and hotels. first of all, if we are going to talk about charity, emily, i'm coming to you. this is your domain out there on the west coast. if we are going to talk about charity, we can't get some of those hotels to play ball to get that cost down? 2,200,000,000 people? and we'll have a heart to help the homeless. but these numbers existed far before the pandemic.

>> emily: that's exactly right. homelessness encased in california from 2015 to 2018 by 22%. to your point, harris, looking at us mathematically, these hotels have to crunch numbers, too paid in the bay area that is the largest division of income earners in the entire country. as you pointed out, san francisco has the highest homeless population in the nation. l.a. spent on the homeless population, seattle, where i'm sitting at this moment, spend a billion dollars a year. that's a million dollars per person. my point is these people are already paying for it. these law-abiding and taxpaying citizens are already paying for it. there is a camp that spring up near my home nearly overnight, and i saw yesterday the person who owns a home closest to it had a crew of men building a wall and putting barbed wire on the top, to their expense. how many more ways can these residents be taxed and have to pay for this exploding problem as the government simply throws more money at it?

>> harris: a million dollars per person, charlie. they could have bought these people houses. >> charlie: no kidding. the best way to solve problems is not to subsidize them. my heart goes out to the homeless, it's a serious problem in this country. to have the continued social welfare program that quite honestly does not work, the question should be this. is the metric of measuring success improving or not improving? in this case it's not improving. maybe what you're doing is not working. you have to give those people help, they have substance abuse problems, some of them. if b passion at the same time. let's ask ourselves the question, what cities have been able to tackle this to make the city filling millions of dollars, that is not the compassionate way to handle the situation. >> harris: when talk about compassion, that is a mixture of your personal intelligence, brilliance, and creativity along with your heart. if we put those things together, san francisco has got to come up with a different plan. california has to come up with a

different plan. >> katie: they can't reward bad decisions with hard money from hardworking americans. and that's a trillion dollar bill coming out of washington, d.c., republicans have said we are not going to subsidize the states and blue cities that have made bad decisions with your money. this is a perfect example of what exactly they are talking about. getting taxpayer money from people all over the country back to governors and democratic mayors who have made very poor decisions about how that money is spent and making situations work. >> harris: 30 seconds. take us home, kennedy. >> kennedy: this is what gavin newsom gave the city of san francisco. it is a horrible gift. he did not have the courage or the foresight to tackle it when he was mayor, now that he is governor, homelessness has exploded throughout california. it's one of the reasons he will probably be recalled.

>> harris: they are getting closer to putting that on the ballot. from what i was reading this morning. and now this would be another reason, outside of the lockdowns and everything else. emily compagno, family member, welcome. everybody, thanks for watching. here's sandra and john with "america reports." >> [crowd chanting] >> john: protests against police breaking out in tacoma, washington, after video showing an officer driving into a crowd and hitting at least one person. hello, everyone. welcome to a brand-new week of "america reports." i'm john roberts in washington. hi, sandra. see eight day one of week two. great to be with you, john. i'm sandra smith. demonstrators seen smashing windows, setting fires, and damaging businesses as they marched through the downtown area. some yelling "free them