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as 50%. more than 5,000 people died and andrew cuomo told us about. the governor was right when he said this. >> governor cuomo: incompetent government kills people. more people died them needed more people died than needed to die. >> jesse: he would think the guy that says "a incompetent government kills people" would take responsibility, but so far every chance he gets, he blames somebody else. >> governor cuomo: if you look at how many people died in nursing homes in new york compared to other states, we have a lower percentage than other states, but we had more people die than any other state. if you died in a nursing home, it's a nursing home deaf. if you die in a hospital, it's called a hospital death. it doesn't say, where were you

before. if i'm a nursing home operator, i say "don't say that person died in my nursing home, because they didn't. they died in the hospital. if the hospital did a better job, they wouldn't have died! why do i get blamed for the death when it didn't happen in my nursing home? i put my head on the pillow at night saying "i saved lives." that's how i sleep at night. i know we have. >> jesse: if that's not bad enough, remember when people dying on his watch, the governor had time to write a book about leadership and post about how he crushed the pandemic? governor cuomo is happy to bask in the limelight, holding daily news conferences, and eating up all the media praise. it won him an emmy!

>> governor cuomo: i wish i could say my daily covid presentations were well choreographed, scripted, rehearsed, or reflected any of the talents that you advance. they didn't. they offered only one thing, authentic truth and stability. >> jesse: his arrogance doesn't end there. remember when he thought it was a good idea to go on cnn and goof off with his brother? >> governor cuomo: this was the swab being used to fit up the double barrel shotgun you have mounted on the front of your pretty face. >> jesse: and greg, the governor got caught covering up a body count that he created. what do we do? >> greg: if you get the four thieves, a crime, a cover-up, and cuomo at cnn. how is cnn going to cover this

with chris cuomo staring at you the whole time, saying "leave my brother out of this? "here's what we just learned here. the report says that people who lived in nursing homes and were transferred to hospitals and died should be counted as a nursing home, right? now they say "we reported all the deaths," but no one is saying you didn't report all the deaths. they are saying you allocated the deaths incorrectly, which -- surprise -- benefit of the governor. now it looks like not that many people died in these rest-tubs. how did they get these disease? they caught it from the people put in the rest home was thanks to governor cuomo. that's why you would say they died in a nursing home. he doesn't like that. then, he might not win the nobel prize. he's up for the nobel prize. >> jesse: dana, to me this

looks like democrats failing up. the worse they do, the better media attention they get. they will probably run for the democrat nomination at some point, and he will herald his stewardship of the covid-19 crisis in new york as a launching pad, even after we know what he did here. that's what's corrupt about this. >> dana: in the last few minutes, the new york department of health commissioner has basically said that this report is not a big deal, and he points to footnote 71. you got to get to 71! [laughter] wheeler said that this were the case. if that were true, letitia james coming to york attorney general, i don't think she would have written that report and headline the weight that she did. she is also a democrat. >> good for her. >> dana: i don't think it's about her party as much as it is

government checking on each other. he basically stopped answering a lot of questions about the guidelines. the publisher on his book, there is a blurb on the back that says "real leadership requires clear communication, compassion for others, and a commitment to truth telling, no matter how bad it can be." he seemed to have a refusal to share the frightening facts. you have the health commissioner saying "this isn't a big deal, because you've got to look at footnote 71." >> jesse: here is why we are not going to allow him to spin this. he's so arrogant, prances around like a peacock, dunks on everybody anytime you question anything he does. if he was humble and said "i made a mistake, i screwed up,"

and took accountability, you might think differently about it. >> katie: andrew cuomo hasn't taken a single second to reflect on what it must feel like for the families before and families now that have been lied to about the cause of death for their family members. this was a deliberate decision by governor cuomo. he had a job center which was built into a massive hospital that he did not use. he had a massive u.s. navy ship that was docked on the hudson. it was not used. instead, he made the decision to force elderly people back into her nursing homes, and when people at the nursing home said this is a bad idea, he told them to shut up and take orders. he is a politician, and rarely are there -- is there any accountability for politicians, but i think there has to be.

this is a criminal level of bad decision-making and horrific cover-up, and the arrogance on top of it to act like everybody who has questions about why their mother and father, or mother-in-law and father-in-law, passed away as a result of deliberate policy decisions that were made -- there has to be accountability for decisions like this one people's lives are at stake. >> jesse: i don't know if it's you, juan, but you've been doing a lot of signing into the microphone, like al gore. are we being unfair to governor cuomo it all? >> juan: i think you don't like governor cuomo. i've gotten that message. >> jesse: unfair. >> juan: i take the attorney general's report. she's a democrat, so it's not a matter of some kind of cover up.

it's not a matter of total deaths being misreported. it's sorting them out, people who died in the nursing home versus second efforts versus sick in the nursing home and died in the hospital. we know that new york got hit early, we know that. what makes me sigh as i don't think we should rewrite history here by somehow pointing at governor cuomo. the fact is, in america, a nation that has now lost 400,000 people -- there was a lack of leadership from the trump white house. we have to say that governor cuomo held his daily briefings, they got attention because there was nothing coming from the president. governors all over the country, republicans and democrats, had to figure out how to handle this

on their own. some did a better job than others. i think you've got to give those governors credit and you have to say that trump made it very political, everything from it will be gone soon. let me finish. that lack of leadership is the problem here. he might have won a second term! >> greg: he said hospital ships that cuomo didn't use, and people died. deal with that. >> juan: that was afterwards. again, cuomo made a mistake. i'm saying he made a mistake. he tried to limit the number of people in the hospital beds so they wouldn't go over capacity, but it turned out to be a tragic mistake for many families!

>> jesse: that you want to jump in? >> katie: since we're talking about rewriting the history, i want to talk about governor cuomo's comments about the response. he was praising president trump in march, april, and may. he said the federal government was working well with them, giving them everything they needed. even governor gavin newsom wasn't saying the same thing. the idea that the trump administration wasn't taking it seriously -- this show was taking the coronavirus white house task force briefings almost every day for weeks on end about how they were working to deal with this. if you look at a place like florida and compare it to new york, there's no question about how each governor has handled this problem. >> jesse: it wasn't donald trump that puts eight people in nursing homes, and then covered it up. >> greg: i remember trump sending hundreds of thousands of ventilators because cuomo demanded it. what happens to those ventilators? >> jesse: up next, don't get

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left. he is calling for sweeping health care changes today. so far, he is signed a 40 -- on top of what he did yesterday for climate change. he's got republicans and workers theories, trying to get green energy jobs while downplaying the impact on the fossil fuel industry. some say it's a war on american workers. >> they are disingenuous. joe biden doesn't care about your job. he doesn't care about the people that need to get back to work. he is a puppet for the radical left. >> dana: biden facing backlash from "the new york times" op-ed that says "ease up on exec and affections," and encourages him to get congress to pass legislation. come on, man! [laughter] and jesse, three of the president's nominees in their confirmation hearings were asked about this issue about jobs, green jobs. pete buttigieg says let's get

new jobs. michelle granholm used the phrase "sacrifice jobs." john kerry said "let them make solar panels," which is an olympic, tone-deaf moment. that was a good list for you. alternate over to you for comments. >> jesse: i have a list. mayor pete should get a new job, but that's beside the point. i've researched those obama green jobs. "president obama's greener job of mirage. obama's green jobs have been slow to sprout." and "the 5 million green jobs that weren't," bloomberg. the media that's praising these green job promises from job wrote about how they never existed under barack obama. joe comes in there and takes out

the two biggest infrastructure projects -- keystone and the border wall -- and they say it's going to cost 10,000 jobs, the keystone. democrats saying "oh, no, those are just temporary jobs." how long do you think it takes them to build a continental pipeline? it doesn't take a week. those were 10,000 jobs that would be there for years. they say "you can go build a solar panel." do you know the average salary of someone who works as a petroleum engineer? $137,000. you don't make that building solar panels. the reason omissions have been going down over the last -- we are at the 1990s levels right now, it is natural gas, not solar wind. it keeps us out of the mess in the middle east and undercuts other prices. get on board with gas. >> dana: get on board with

gas! juan? >> jesse: come on come on. >> dana: come on, man! [laughter] the point jesse just brought up, the media, green energy jobs, it's only been four years. the biden team hasn't shown them that been a lot of change and innovation this past year. there's been some, but not everyone has gotten a new job. >> juan: i think there has been change. there is climate change, and what we know about it, its impact on us as american people. we've seen more innovation. they're going to get rid of gas powered cars allegedly in the next 15 years. there are ceos in the big companies that are all for this new agenda, in terms of going forward with energy innovation. there are more jobs in terms of solar power, wind power, they

own in the coal industry. why wouldn't we want government to support that burgeoning industry as it competes with the chinese and the germans? we should want them at the forefront. that's the medicare, getting moe people into medicare, opening the insurance market for a country in the middle of a pandemic. this is good news. we should be saluting him. it's before greg, are we saluting? [laughs] >> greg: i am not saluting. i keep hearing about this solar panel making jobs. are they in america? what's the american company you know if that makes solar panels? i can't think of one offhand. i think they might be mostly made in china, where everything is cheaply made. i salute you for renting john kerry's private jet, juan, to file the coal miners out of

pennsylvania where they can go and work in china. he'll have to leave their families behind, probably move in with someone, and that's the way it's going to go. america was fed a lie. they thought they were getting a comfy cardigan sending out a shirt designed by antifa. if you couldn't see joe biden, you wouldn't know he is an 80-year-old white male. you think he's a gender studies major from brown. everything is extreme, and what's missing is any semblance of thoughtfulness or wisdom. the great thing about elderly people, wisdom comes standard. it comes with time. it naturally comes out of your pores. we somehow were able to elect to be only 80-year-old man who has no wisdom. 40 executive orders, i totally understand why biden would do 40 executive orders, given that he

doesn't have the house or senate. oh, wait, wait, wait. [laughter] so he doesn't have to do this! i think joe is running the country by chaos, but it's more like a studebaker. before i knew you were going to do that. [laughter] katie, even "the new york times" was like "we can't take all the executive orders." >> katie: it's interesting to watch the press secretary talk about how families are struggling, they were having a hard time, and yet the president just with a pen destroyed thousands of high-paying jobs. the other thing the president signed today was a reinstituting taxpayer for abortions overseas. biden said he was a moderate, that's what he ran on, but a new poll this week showed 55% of democrats and 85% of independents do not support taxpayer funding for abortion overseas. extreme executive orders coming out of an oval office that was

supposed to be pretty moderate. >> dana: good talk, everybody. next, climate hypocrisy. john kerry getting called out for telling workers to find new green energy jobs, while he owns a private jet! ♪ ♪

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is! >> what president biden wants to do is make sure that those folks have better choices, that they have alternatives, that they can be the people to go to work to make the solar panels. >> katie: climates are john kerry telling people losing their jobs, thanks to biden, to suck it up and find a new job, because it's about saving planet earth. turns out john kerry is not willing to make the same

sacrifices. his family owns and operates a private jet, which emits up to 40 times more carbon per passenger than a commercial plane. something makes me think this isn't just about climate, but government control. >> greg: we learned during covid that the more remote you are from your consequences, the more likely you will make people's lives worse. how casual he is about it, "you will get another job, doing what? who knows. there's a lot of jobs, anyway, not my problem. i just chilled your job." the other thing that bugs me is why him? why are we bringing back this stuff? it's weird to see him at all. these people never leave. joe doesn't know anyone under the age of 75, and you're telling me that there's nobody in america but him to do this job? it's like joe went up to the

attic and found his old favorite play toy, a wooden soldier, and brought him down for everybody. >> katie: now he's got an excuse to go to paris. the ocean is rising and is don't they have an estate right next to the water? >> juan: i don't know. why does trump live in mar-a-lago? why does trump have a private jet? to me, this is nitpicking. >> katie: they are not lecturing the rest of them about climate change. >> juan: that has nothing to do with -- look: his job is to help america deal with climate change. the business about a private jet, or living in mar-a-lago, it's very small ball. it's important that we understand, we have to look at the big picture here. we just saw the u.s. economy contracted 3.5%, the biggest

since post world war ii, 1946. we have to think about retooling the american economy and getting ahead on innovation. that's what john kerry is doing in terms of green jobs. we have to think in those terms. that's why you see american industry, including many in the oil and gas industry, for people to say, let's get on this rocket ship and take off. >> katie: dana, there's a difference between pollution and climate change. we've seen bureaucrats like john kerry and the epa, similar people, get people out of their livelihoods, their homes. it is a class issue when it comes to the environment, it seems. >> dana: is a party elder, which i would say john kerry is, he's not the right spokesperson.

not having a plan for them, and they could just make a solar panel, it's so easy -- because we just gone through eight years of the obama administration, we proved in the last segment those didn't come to fruition. why not take a half year to say "here's all these jobs that have been created. it's okay for you to have these other jobs. instead, they are like other jobs." it's a strange way to try to win back working-class voters. >> katie: the jobs aren't in existence yet, jesse. quit your job, we are eliminating your job, but the industry's not ready you. >> jesse: they artie tried it.

obama spent millions to train west virginia miners to become drone operators, nurses, and computer programmers. the program was a bust! they tried to train colorado minors to become solar panel builders, and they were making $75,000 mining, and then $40,000 building panels. they got them fired and then cut their salary in half. you and good policy? these people are idiots. why is john kerry the czar of anything question might [laughter] >> katie: up next, in america buzzing about game stop and the war on wall street between a little guy investors and big-time hedge funds. that's up next. ♪ ♪

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is my ♪ ♪ >> juan: it seems like everyone in america is talking about game stop and the war being waged on wall street between online traders and the big time investment firms. here's a breakdown. earlier this month, amateur online investors joined together on a message board to drive up the price of companies like game stop. that's in response to hedge funds placing bets -- shorts -- that would say that the company is about to fail. their plan ended up working, and game stop shares have shot up by more than 1700%. the hedge funds have been losing millions, if not more. there is a new controversy today. shares of game stop and other companies are falling, after

company's limited trading on stocks boosted by these amateur investors. greg, let me begin with you and ask, is this a situation where we see in a populist revolt in washington, and now a populist revolt against washington and the notion of disruption? they are disrupting wall street. >> greg: i hope so. i admit off the bat that like many things, i don't know about this. [laughter] this was so over my head. i'm not a financial expert. i rely on charles payne, ray greenwald, scott adams, david angelo. i had to dive deep to understand this. the bottom line is, how can you sell stock you don't own? we don't do that with other stuff. regular people made money off of this scam, and wall street is for stuff that it's not them.

i like people getting together to beat wall street by punching up the price, i hope that is true. i hope people don't end up losing money on this. we've seen that sub ready group is classified as hate speech for doing this, which shows you how you can manipulate the phrase hate speech into anything you want. you can sell this stock but you can't buy this stock. and, there are people who get $810,000 in speaking fees from the firm that owns robin hood that is stopping the purchasing here. there's a lot of weird stuff going on here. >> juan: when wall street got bailed out in 'oh eight, and

main street didn't, do you think people are saying "wall street, take a height? ">> jesse: it's about populism, you nailed it. you can be a day trader in the age of the internet, speculate, drive up stock prices, just like the pros. what happened here is that they drove it up, and a bunch of these hedge fund guys took a bath on short positions, and then they got bailed out by some of their bigger hedge fund guys, and them what they did was say "we are getting humiliated by these retail investors. they've got these platforms like robin hood that let these guys trade at home, shut down. they froze the stock so it couldn't be traded by these guys at home. that's illegal. people should be going to jail for that. you can't do that. he goes with what we have been seeing for the last decade or two. you've seen this populist uprising, whether it's trump or

anybody else, come up like this, they get shut down with a fist. whether it's silicon valley, people spying on his campaign. we are on a big collision course, and i don't like it. it makes me sound like a democrat. why am i sticking up for a little guy? i'm supposed to be mr. white privilege over here. [laughter] pro-business, but these crooked business guys are really making it tough for the average joe. it's not fair. i don't like to talk about fairness, but it really isn't fair. [laughter] i sound like i'm whining. >> juan: i have worry along these lines that people who were buying game stop or blackberry, companies that don't seem to have a great future, they could get caught holding the bag, and lose their shirts! it do you think so?

>> katie: may be, but their decision. i got on robin hood this morning, i tried to buy nokia stock, as i thought it was the next big thing. i wasn't allowed to buy it. i thought that was weird that i wasn't allowed to buy of stock. it was. one of the biggest frauds of this whole thing is elizabeth warren. guess who's side she's taking? the side of the headphones, not the little guy. yes. >> dana: yes! >> jesse: no. >> katie: i want to know -- because she's a fraud. that's why. [laughter] they are playing by the same rules wall street has played by forever, and they beat them at their own game, and it's all fair. maybe do a better job next time. >> juan: you just heard in the conversation we've been having, it was mentioned that it was hate speech. there is a lot of anti-jewish sentiment caricatures of bankers

and traders as jewish, among the people engaged in this online trading. do you take this seriously, or is that an excuse? >> dana: i don't know enough about that. i've never been on one of those reddit sites. i don't know, and i don't know if that was just today or if that's been ongoing for a long time. i don't know if it was raised as an issue after the situation. it's very interesting, as america, to live through -- it's like we are on a live edition of "billions," and i'm sure this will be in the next season. i find it ironic that an app called robin hood would be robbing the poor in order to pay the rich. that doesn't seem like the right thing to do. we will see what happens in terms of these hearings. maxine waters already said she was going to have one. there could be fines, but we don't know who is going to get

the fines. if you make money on this, you have to pay taxes, so save some of those earnings. >> katie: good advice, dana. [laughter] >> juan: that's great advice. more of "the five" next, right here for you! ♪ ♪ we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa ♪

♪ ♪ >> greg: and now were playing that. pete is demanding people stop using offensive insults, like "chicken" or "pig," because it reinforces the myth that humans are superior to animals. they made this chart to help us out, pita did it. instead of chicken, use "coward." instead of rat, use "snitch." forget about snake. call someone a jerk, which is offensive to me. pig is also simian, repulsive is better. don't say sloth is lazy, from now on. what do you make of this, juan?

[laughter] >> juan: peta can be outlandish. they're not going to change the way i talk, the way my colleagues talk on my show. i like peta. i think someone should stand up for the little animals, and i'm all for that. i like bumper stickers. >> greg: i don't dislike peta. i think they do this on purpose, because they know we will do these segments. we love these segments. are they barking up the wrong tree, and if i say that, is that also offensive? >> katie: that's very offensive. peta stands for people eating tasty animals. that's another offensive term. >> greg: peta, an acronym, shouldn't they change their

name? pat is pejorative. animals as pets are in a repressive relationship and oppressive relationship. before we will know that they have been successful when merriam-webster's dictionary changes language. so far, you can still say chicken. >> greg: jesse, if they take this away for me, what am i going to call you late at night? [laughter] >> greg: don't call me at all. [laughter] i'm with you. there's something fishy about this story. you're gonna make me go bat -- crazy over here! >> greg: i would don't know if i would say that's clever. >> dana: it was clever. >> greg: it was clever for jesse. a new segment. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> jesse: time for "one more thing." >> greg: if you are a child of the '70s like i was, then you knew who phyllis lindstrom was. mary tyler moore show. incredible character. also the tv show "phyllis" which was a spin-off. i am talking about the actress cloris leachman who played that legendary role. she died yesterday at 94. one of the funniest people ever on tv. she was everywhere. she won and oscar in "the last picture show." i think she has the most enemies of any actor. nine or eight -- the most emmys. she was also in one of the greatest movies of all time, "young frankenstein."

she was amazing. also she was a finalist for miss chicago in 1946. she was miss chicago in 1946 miss america. she was beautiful, hilarious. 94. good for her. >> rest in peace. >> jesse: quite a run, very talented. also talented, katie. >> katie: thinks. i'm doing my "one more thing" from yesterday today because it's too good not to. i went sledding in utah. it was really cool to watch the dogs. these were super cute. have husky, half lab. two teams, one with boy dogs and one was girl dogs. more girl dogs pulling the sled than the male dogs. we went around in the snow and

they were sweet and there was a super -- it was a super experience. i recommend it to anyone. there is my husband. little jealous when i got home. >> dana: that looks fun. >> jesse: it looks like a chihuahua. >> katie: it was not a chihuahua. >> dana: jesse, you might want to pay attention to my next thing here. this is an actual german shepherd. he's being barked at by a parent. i don't know how unusual this is. this is in france. maybe that's how french birds talk and bark. look at the dog. he is totally unmoved. oh, with this thing just shut up? very patient dog, i have to say. >> jesse: like when your wife tries to wake you up in the morning.

all right, juan. >> juan: all right, working moms, i've got a video to make you smile tonight. take a look at the bottom of the screen. what you're going to see is los angeles meteorologist leslie lopez doing her forecast. what you just saw is her 9-month-old son walked in on her mom's show. she was working at home during the pandemic. nolan woke up. a working mom can do two things at once. she handled the baby and she handled the forecast. it's all human. so human. i think social media has made nolan superstar. >> jesse: nolan has a career as a safety. went right for the legs. sometimes on "the five," i feel

like a surfer that's getting pitted. if you can show the video, you start saying something and then you know you're going down a rabbit hole. how do i get out of this? what if i said, am i going to offend someone? oh, my god, i got out of it somehow. thank you. i'm not fired. "special report" is up next with bret. >> bret: i have seen you on that wave. good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking, huge controversy over the number of people in assisted living homes in new york who died from the coronavirus. a new report from the new york attorney general states that the actual number i.d. 50% higher than what governor andrew cuomo and his administration have been saying. we'll have that story and invented the first story literally everyone is talking about. wall street in turmoil. big game of high-stakes chicken between small investors and e