has been pretty busy as well. fox news prime time, have you seen this show? this week it's hosted by trey gowdy who seems like he's getting the gist of things really easy, it starts right now. >> trey: this is real work, i need to go back to the house, this is hard. good evening and welcome to fox news prime time, i'm trey gowdy, thank you for joining us tonight. impeachment starts next week, nancy pelosi says house democrats were moving forward with impeachment to "protect the constitution, and then she slipped up and told her the truth. listen to this. >> the house managers are walking into a trial where all signs point to acquittal. >> they haven't heard the case, the court of the senate today will make their case in the court of public opinion they will make their case, i have great confidence in them and we'll see. we'll see if it's going to be a senate of courage or cowards.

>> trey: did you hear that? the court of public opinion, she says. it would have to be the court of public opinion because what you will see next week bears no similarity to a real court. in a real court, there is a judge was fair and neutral. next week, the presiding judge is senator patrick leahy who has already voted twice to convict and remove donald trump from office. he would never be allowed to preside in a real court. in a real court there is a jury of women and men who have not already made up their minds. that is the only one quality you must have two serve on a real jury in a real court. there are 50 democrats will vote to convict next week no matter what the evidence is. in a real court, the jury is told to wait until the very end to reach any conclusions, in fact, you are forbidden from even beginning to reach conclusions until the very end. but not next week. in a real court, there are rules

of evidence, rules about what kind of evidence can be admitted and i doubt you will see any of those rules next week. in real courts there is cross-examination. as you know, cross examination is the single best way to determine whether a witness is telling the truth or not. there will be no cross-examination next week because i don't think there's going to be any witnesses next week. nancy pelosi says we will see if the senate is made of courage or cowardice -- i'll tell you what takes real courage. it takes real courage to be fair to your enemies. that takes courage. anyone can protect their friends and attack their enemies, real courage is when you are fair to everyone, even those you don't like. house prosecutors have asked donald trump to testify and he has refused their invitation despite threats of a subpoena. those same prosecutors may ask the senate to draw a negative inference if he refuses to show

up. you know what happens in real court? it's exactly the opposite. prosecutors cannot comment on the silence of a defendant in real court and if you do, not only will you lose your case, you might lose your law license and there is no negative inference in a real prosecution, and fact it's the opposite. you are presumed innocent. democrats are free to talk about their court of public opinion, i would rather talk about real court where real people make tough decisions based on the facts and the laws regardless of politics. the rules and procedures we will use in real court rooms are not right and fair simply because we use them in court rooms, it's really the opposite. it is the rightness and the fairness that came first, you won't see that next week. speaker pelosi, if you're

looking for the court of public opinion, we actually have them. they're called elections, popularity wins. in the other court, and the real court, fairness wins. what really takes courage is to know the difference between the two senator tom cotton has a front row seat to the democrats impeachment theater, he will serve as the 100 jurors in next week's trial and he joins us right now. from the great state of arkansas, how are you? >> i'm good, good to see a guest this week. >> trey: thank you. you know what i had going through my mind when i heard cowardice? if i'm not mistaken, you signed up for combat after law school, not jagged, but combat, coward would not be a word i used in connection with you -- what do you think about what i said the? >> maybe i joined the army as an infantry officer as a reflection

of what a bad lawyer i was. i heard speaker pelosi say if we have a senate of cowardice or courage but we know we have a house of fools because they elected nancy pelosi to be there speaker. not a single witness, not a single document, they rushed it over to the senate, they didn't actually deliver the papers in time to have a trial. now they want to proceed with a plainly unconstitutional impeachment proceeding to convict and remove a man from office who left office two weeks ago. i think the american people think it's pretty strange the democrats are still obsessing about donald trump when we are trying to address the problems they face. whether it's people who are out of work or can't get vaccinated or have their schools closed, that's what democrats should be focused on and what i'm focused on. >> trey: you're married to a real prosecutor, i was average but i did it for a long time. we couldn't make defendant's testify and you can't draw a negative inference if they don't

come in it's the opposite. what are house managers talking about making him come testify? if they think he is committed a crime, doesn't have the right not to incriminate himself? >> you would think so and it contradicts exactly what they have been saying for the last three weeks, they have been saying they didn't need to have hearings, they do need to have witnesses or documents. the evidence was manifest it was in front of everybody's eyes on tv, we all saw at spirit if that's the case where they ask him donald trump himself to testify in person. >> trey: what do you expect next week, do you think they are going to call witnesses, where will be cross-examination exhibits like a real trial? >> i don't know, i have not heard the legal strategy from either the president's legal team with the house managers. as a juror i will sit and listen to everything they have said but my view has been very clear, it's beyond constitutional authority from the senate and impeachment proceedings to

convict and remove from office a man who is already left office. >> trey: i've served with you for a number of years, you do your homework. for you to reach the conclusion that trying a president who has left office violates the constitution there must be a reason for it, what led you to that conclusion? >> look of a constitution, it said it's pleasantly the president and vice president and all civil officers of the united states will be susceptible to impeachment, donald trump is none of those things at this moment and usually when the text of any law to include the constitution is plain, that's the end of it. i will also point out the democrats have not invited chief justice john roberts to sit at the impeachment trial as the constitution requires. that just further reinforces the democrats know they are not having a trial of the president, they are having a trial, an inquest into a private citizen. if it's not constitutional nor

should it be the focus of the senate right now when we are still dealing with this pandemic and mass unemployment. >> trey: you mentioned the pandemic, what are some of the other things the senate could be doing. if 45 members of the jury said you're not going to convict conviction, if you're going through a trial that cannot get a conviction, what should you be doing? >> i wish we were working in bipartisan fashion to address the needs of the american people improved vaccine distribution certain states, look at what joe biden the democrats are doing now. after preaching unity he has governing from the hard left in a highly partisan fashion. we spent more than $4 trillion to help combat this pandemic and a lot of that money is still not spent. the average vote on those bills was over 90 u.s. senators out of 100, in many of those cases we had a unanimous vote to get the

very first thing joe biden does is go to the hard left and refused to cooperate with any republicans and now we are voting tonight on their budget and look at what some of these amendments the democrats are voting down. 50 democrats just voted against withholding covid relief money from schools that don't reopen even after their teachers are vaccinated. another 50 voted against denying money to cities and counties that don't cooperate with immigration enforcement spirit 42 out of 50 democrats voted to give stimulus checks to illegal aliens. it goes to show just how partisan and radical the democrats in joe biden's washington are governing right now. >> trey: we got about one minute but it seems like some republicans are of the opinion that if you're going to go forward with this impeachment trial, we are going to have a difficult time confirming your cabinet and he's chosen impeachment over cap next, we got about 45 seconds, what is your reaction to that? >> once the senate is sitting

over a quart of impeachment it takes precedent over all the business, we won't have any votes to confirm the cabinet, a few cabinet members already confirmed that this is going to push us further into february getting joe biden's cabinet confirmed, it goes to show again with their priority is, their priority is to continue to obsess about donald trump even after he left office more than two weeks ago and we have a lot of problems we should be addressing. >> trey: thank you for joining us, i hope you enjoy your jury service next week. >> thank you. >> trey: today, president biden went to the state department to make a big announcement. he's going to clean up the mess allegedly left by mike pompeo. former secretary of state is here with us next with his response. ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel ♪ [man: coughing]

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>> trey: president biden made his first foreign policy speech saying america is back -- i didn't know went anywhere. mike pompeo is here next but first trace gallagher has a has key takeaways from the speech. >> good to see you on both china and russia, biden played a good cop/bad cop. on china, president said he is willing to work with beijing when it's in america's interest not to be confused with america first. biden also said he would confront china's economic abuses, human rights violations, and attacks on intellectual property, he did not offer details. on russia, mr. biden revealed an agreement to extend a nuclear arms treaty but also offered this warning, watch. >> i made it clear to

president putin in a manner very different from my predecessor that the days of the united states rolling over and the face of russia's aggressive actions interfering with our elections, cyber attacks, poisoning its citizens are over. >> the president directed defense secretary lloyd austin to review the global footprint of u.s. forces to make sure it's appropriate for national security. he also stop the withdrawal of more than 9,000 u.s. troops from germany, former president trump authorized pulling those troops out saying germany needs to pay more for its own defense. president biden announced in end to american support for offensive operations in yemen where saudi led forces are fighting the iranian backed houthi rebels, he did say america would continue to help saudi arabia defend its sovereignty and the president plans to increase the number of refugees admitted into the u.s. >> this executive order will position us to be able to raise

the refugee admissions back up to 125,000 persons for the first full fiscal year of the biden-harris administration. >> the trump administration set the refugee cap at 15,000. >> trey: joining me now with his first reaction to all of this, former secretary of state, former head of the cia, former congressman of the great state of kansas, mike pompeo. mr. secretary, how are you? >> great to be with you tonight, thanks for having me on the show -- good to see you. >> trey: it's good to see you too. president biden said america is back, i didn't know we went anywhere, what is your reaction to that? >> goodness gracious, "back." does he mean back to when isis controlled a caliphate in syria that was the size of britain? i hope not, president trump and our team took that down. does that mean letting china walk all over us, destroying

millions of jobs in places like kansas and south carolina that we know so well? i hope that's what he means by back. he talks about allies, does he mean back to disrespecting allies and friends like israel and treating the terrorists in iran it like friends by giving them cash, i don't think the american people can afford to go back to eight more years of barack obama's foreign policy. i hope they move forward with a policy much more like our america first policy. >> trey: i want to ask you about three countries in particular, let's start with china. we know what china has done to this country via the pandemic. you are acutely aware of what china is doing and has done to its own citizens, what you have to say about that. >> china is behaving in a way we haven't seen any nation behave since the 1930s. we have all over the world and in washington, d.c., and los angeles, we have museums

that talk about the horrors that took place and we talk about never again -- yet on our watch, on our time we are watching the chinese communist party engage in exactly those same kinds of behaviors with respect to the uighurs and other minorities there, the world has a responsibility to take this on. i have determined this was a that is taking place and i hope this administration will take it as seriously as president trump and our team did. >> trey: he mentioned russia and election interference. i had the pleasure of working with you in the house, you're as tough on russia as anybody i know, what is this notion that all of a sudden we are going to get tough on russia? >> if you remember, the interference that he is referring to took place when he was the vice president of the united states. this with the election in 2016, long before the trump administration came into power.

in the election in 2020, we worked hard to prevent russia from interfering in our election, i'm proud of the work we did and part of the work we did to push back against russia. they took crimea during the obama administration, i don't think our friends and allies want that, i know the american people don't want it. >> trey: the president said the diplomat's job is to rebuild trust around the world. this is what has me vexed. a few months ago, we were killing an iranian general, now he wants to sit at the bargaining table with the iranians about nuclear weaponry. how do you go from killing generals to saying "we trust you enough even though you still want to push israel into the water?" >> that particular general was plotting to kill americans and we weren't going to let it happen, the stomach president trump was ago to let

it happen. the world said it was going to grade world war iii, but it demonstrated america's ability to execute deterrence against iran. going back would be a calamity for the gulf states, calamity for our friend and partner come of the jewish homeland of israel and a calamity for the people of the dead states of america which presents real risks of the world's largest state sponsors of terror will have the resources and capacity to do real harm. >> trey: the president today also said our relations with some of our allies have been neglected and abused. what is your reaction to his perception of our relationship with our allies? >> when i was the secretary of state, i shot straight, there was some cold receptions in brussels and in some of the salons of europe, there is no doubt about that. i'm proud of the work we did. we spoke the truth, we didn't -- we knew the world as we wished

it to be. what we did was deliver good outcomes. ask prime minister modi, ask prime minister morrison in australia, all of these leaders understood that america had their back, we were friends and partners, we were working diligently to deliver security. we did that. great friends, great allies, great partners and i'm proud of the alliances this administration built. >> trey: mike, we met while we were investigating the deaths of four brave americans in libya and you were an indispensable part of finding out what happened to them, i know how seriously you take the security of those women and men who work on our behalf. i don't think anyone was lost on your watch. it tell me about the security profile when you were secretary of state? >> you and i did serve on the benghazi committee together, you are a great leader. we were aimed singly at making sure we understood why we lost

and why three other great americans were killed in that tragic incident. every day i woke up while i was a cia director of the state department to saying how do i make sure -- would got take risks, we have people in far-off places, we have to make sure heaven and earth those people are protected. through the grace of god, i didn't have any of my officers either in the cia or the state department killed during my time and leadership. we learned a lot. we have a responsibility this great americans working overseas and working at difficult places to make sure they are safe and secure as america can possibly deliver and the trump administration did just that. >> trey: last question, you spent a lot of time in government service, you're in the private sector, do you think we will ever see you back in public service again? >> it's hard to know. i served as a soldier a long time ago, now i have an incredible opportunity to serve alongside you as a member of congress come out all jobs in

the trump administration, we will have to see what life brings. i'm going to take a break, write a little bit and then see what's in front of us. >> trey: thank you mr. secretary for your work from west point all the way until your last day of secretary of state, my best to your family and susan too. >> right back at you. >> trey: thank you. democrats cited science as the reason for eliminating good paying energy jobs -- we must always follow the science. what happens when the science says it's time for teachers to go back to the classrooms? that's next. claritin-d improves nasal airflow two times more than the leading allergy spray at hour one. [ deep inhale ] claritin-d. get more airflow. sfx: [sounds of everyday life events, seen and heard in reverse] ♪♪

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>> trey: several years ago while i was driving my daughter to school and on the way we passed a child walking. the backpack was bigger than he was, it wasn't a road most kids would be walking on and the kids that did live on that road didn't have to walk to school. i looked at that child in the

rearview mirror as we passed him moving as fast as his little feet would go -- i dropped our daughter off but i couldn't get the image of that child out of my mind. instead of turning towards the courthouse i went back towards him and there he was, still walking down the road. i pulled up the side and rolled the window down, and said don't be afraid, i have children about your age too, do you need a ride somewhere, where you try to get to? he called the name of the school and it was the school miles and miles away. i said you're not going to make it walking, do you want to ride? he didn't answer and frankly i didn't blame him, here was this strange man asking him to get in the car and i said "son, i'm not going to hurt you but by the time you get to school, it will be over. let me help you." he got in the car and said my mom overslept, i missed the bus, but i didn't want to miss school. i did the math in my head, that child had already been walking

for about an hour. and he had hours yet to go. but that was how bad he wanted to be in school. that is the power of education. it can change your life, it can change generations of lives after yours, even at his young age, this child understood the power of education. my wife teaches first grade, she gets up every morning at 4:00 a.m. to go teach other people's children -- i would rather roof houses in july barefoot then teach six to 6-year-olds -- i couldn't do it. she loves it, she has never once said a word about her own health during this pandemic. she puts on her mask and she goes to school because she loves the children and she knows the power of education and every day missed hurts the children. i want you to contrast that with

what is happening in chicago and other places where it seems like the teachers have all the time in the world for dance videos and union meetings but no time for the children. they can give you all the reasons not to go back in the classroom but they can't seem to find a single reason to go back in the classroom. teaching is hard work even without the pandemic. it's hard work -- i get it. but if you don't want to teach, do something else. john kerry and kamala harris and mayor pete, they have lots of -- you can build solar panels, you can clear landmines. i wonder what advice they have for the teachers in chicago who aren't willing to follow the science and go back to the classroom. i want you to keep this dichotomy in your mind, the image of a young boy walking to school for hours, getting in the car with a stranger because he

understood the power of education to change his life. now contrast that with the image of those dancing teachers in chicago. that child knew the power of education and being in school. i wish the teachers in chicago knew as much as he did. here to respond from the great state of florida, senator marco rubio, how are you? >> i'm good, that's a powerful story. >> trey: thank you, i know you value education, i have known you for many years, what is the proper response to the teachers unions in chicago and other cities that won't go back to work? >> let me first say like your wife and a so many others including members of my own family, there are teachers working all across america, i don't even blame many of the individual teachers and i would imagine there are many who are members of that union who do

want to go back and understand that. i think the union there has a different agenda. i think what is most concerning is leaders that aren't willing to confront them like at the white house. in the middle of a pandemic like all public policy, we have to balance benefits, the cost and benefit of doing everything. at this point, all kinds of people are back to work and you try to make it as safe as possible and you try to mitigate as much as possible but ultimately the science has now told us and that's what we've been told we need to listen to for months that it's safe to go back to school even if teachers haven't been vaccinated. we also can see the societal impact of its having. you're never going to make up for the loss of these learning gains, the inability and not to mention the social impact is having on kids in many cases isolated in their room for hours. that's why i'm proposing an amendment and the senate is voting here tonight -- at this point, no federal dollars should be going to any district that isn't offering some sort of in

person learning option to the students. if a teacher has a pre-existing condition, that's a different situation. but by and large we have got to get kids back in classrooms everywhere in this country. you are never going to get back those years and we are already seeing the impact it's having on mental health, social well-being and the impact it's having on families. >> trey: senator, we have sound from jen psaki, i want you to listen to that and give me your response and the other side. >> there is no indication that the teachers union in chicago or san francisco are willing to budge at this point. if it comes down to a binary choice, who will the president choose? the kids are the teachers? >> i think that's a little unfair how you posed that question but i will say the president believes schools will be open, teachers want school to be open, families want school to be open but we want to do it safely. >> trey: but they say it can

be done safely, the real harm is not going back into the classroom. what should the president -- how aggressive should he be? >> i think he should be very aggressive. he doesn't want to line up against the teachers union, powerful unions big part of the democratic base, big supporters of his campaign and he doesn't want to go crosswise to them. politics are involved, he doesn't want to cross with his union which he considers to be key part of his political support and that's what's winning out at this moment. even the mayor of chicago today called out the union and i will just say this -- there are schools open across the country that are open safely. are the incidence of cases zero? of course not, there are not true anywhere, all across america from every profession from the cashier at the supermarket, the people picking up the garbage, firefighters, police officers, nurses and doctors, everyone is back to work. janitors and custodians, everywhere back to work and we

want absolutely to make schools as safe as possible in terms of how we reopen them. what we can't do is go another year or even another month or in my opinion another week without kids being able to have some in classroom, in person instruction are you going to see thousands, maybe millions of young americans in this generation who are going to be damaged in terms of their learning at a social development in ways that may be irreversible. >> trey: thank you, senator. i can tell as a father you are passionate on the issue of education and good luck with your amendment and i hope the vote doesn't interfere with your bedtime tonight, thank you. next, heisman trophy winner herschel walker. ♪ ♪ est 5g network... award-winning customer satisfaction...

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>> trey: i am a sports and not, i would rather watch college sports than anything else in the world so you would be right to think that i wanted to talk to herschel walker.

he may be the greatest college running back of all time. but it wasn't just football for herschel walker, he was a track star, everything from sprinting to shot put, he was a bobs letter, he performed martial arts. herschel walker even performed in a ballet. when you watch old footage of herschel walker running, you realize what you are watching is unique. it reminds me of watching secretariat run. you know it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing that you are watching. that is not all i see when i see herschel walker. i see a man who overcame self-doubt, a man who overcame difficulties as a young person, struggled with his own self-confidence. i see a man who overcame those doubts and graduated number one in his high school class. when you watch him run, you see something else, you see a group of young people from different

backgrounds, different races, white and black uniting in common purpose to block for a black man from humble beginnings in georgia. sports are unifying, it is women and men putting their differences aside and finding one common purpose big enough to fight for. maybe we should all watch more of that. herschel walker, how are you? >> i'm doing well, how are you doing? thank you for having me on. >> trey: thank you for coming on. your wife sent a picture and i saw today of you and doug flutie running off the field hand-in-hand and it is such a beautiful image of how unifying sports can be. you're in the picture, you played sports, and my right? is it unifying? >> i look back and i see doug

flutie, he's like family. todd fowler who i played with in dallas and frank walz who is from barcelona, spain, he's my brother, he's really like my brother and people start talking about separation and i said there's no separation and team, there's no i in team, there is no we in team, it's called team and that's how the team is better, when you play as one. it's sad this country is in the place is and where it is today but we can get it back. we need to work them out and quit listening to a lot of these people who want to separate us. >> trey: you're right about that, we've got the super bowl coming up on sunday and even though dallas isn't in it i'll probably watch it anyway, we just can't resist inserting politics into sports now and i'm all for -- talking about politics but it doesn't have to be all the time. can't we just watch the super bowl?

>> i think that's terrible, people want to sit down and watch the game, they don't want to sit there and think about politics, they want to relax and watch the game. i do like watching the commercials and now the commercials now have gotten a lot of political statements in. it's sad. to be honest with you, i almost quit watching tv and you're talking to a guy that loves television. i almost quit watching tv because i don't want to people tell me about the black scum of the whites, or anybody because we all bleed the same blood, we all believe in the lord jesus christ and i don't know of anyone who believes in jesus christ knows of anything about separation. i don't want anybody to try to make me believe in separation because i never will. >> trey: i want to ask you about something else you believe in, you are heavily involved in something called patriot support. we got about a minute but i want you to tell folks what is

patriot support and why is it so important to you? >> patriot support is important to me, all branches of the military i go to a base anywhere in the united states of america and i try to remove that stigma of mental health. i try to think uhs for giving the opportunity. the military, those are true heroes and i'm always good to stand behind them, i'm always going to stand behind them and right now that's what we have to do as a country. stand behind him our military, law enforcement, first responders, those are the people who put things on the line. if i heard you say earlier and you're correct, education is the key and we have to continue to stand behind that. >> trey: i think that's coming from somebody who graduated number one in his high school class if i'm not mistaken.

you certainly understand the power of education and i'll tell you this, it broke my heart that you want to georgia and not south carolina. >> i thought about south carolina. >> trey: demand the play behind you in georgia, tell them why you didn't come to south carolina. >> i thought about south carolina but when you start talking about gamecocks i was try to figure out what in the world is a gamecock but i knew what a dawg was. it was a great place and a good friend of mine jordan locket who was a gamecock, i respect him so much. a sports is unifying, sports is together, it doesn't matter about your color, doesn't matter what you are -- i was on the winter olympic team majority of which are white but everyone on that team are my sisters and brothers that i would die for those people and i would do it today. >> trey: you were a phenomenal athlete but you're an even better person, thank you for coming on tonight.

my best to you and your family. >> thank you, god bless you, thank you, and a big fan. >> trey: i don't have many, so thank you. we'll be right back.

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♪ >> when i was a district attorney in south carolina i asked my co-workers to participate in a book club of sorts. it was voluntary, of course. i'm not going to make people read nathaniel hawthorne. they would quit. i might quit. we had a staff of around 60 people from various background. some were lawyers but most were not. some went to school for a long time. others started working straits out of high school. one thing i did ask them to read was the million dialogue which is found in a book written by -- trust me, it's not nearly as painful as it sounds. the million dialogue is a conversation of sorts between the powerful and the not so powerful. it forces you to think about what you really believe and what you are willing to do to protect

it. we sat around that conference room table in the courthouse and i asked my co-workers two questions: which duval more? truth or freedom? and every single person around that table said freedom. which duval more unity or diversity? every person except one said diversity. all four are important, obviously. and you should not have to choose among them. but i did leave that conference room fully aware that i was in the minority. and i kept asking myself what is the value in being free to be wrong? if there really is something called truth, wouldn't we value that more than anything else? diversity is important. i'm glad we don't all lookalike or believe all the same things. but isn't unity important too? we are, after all, the united states of america. and if we are the united states, what is it that unites us?

surely it has to be more than simple geography. and shouldn't we celebrate unity every bit as much as we celebrate the things that make us different? two decades later i am still in the minority. freedom, truth, defendant, and unity are all important. i just put truth and unity at the top of the list. we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created equal. that is the most famous line from our announcement to the world that america exists. even in that single line from our declaration of independence truth and freedom coexist but it was the truth that came first. we hold these truths to be self-evident. and then we wrote ratified our foundational document the constitution. and it began with we, the people

in order to form a more perfect union. we, the people. which is about as decidedly unifying as any phrase could be. yes, i am aware that we were not a perfect union at the beginning. i'm fully aware of that. but at least we acknowledged that there was something called perfect and we have been in pursuit of the perfect ever since. we, the people, trying to be perfect. now, that is something you can build a country on. diversity comes easy for us. we're different. we look different. we believe different things. we live in different parts of the country. we belong to different political parties. we have the diversity down pat. it's the unity that is sometimes missing. diversity comes naturally. unity, that takes work. and i have finally reconciled this debate between truth and freedom. and i have decided there needed

to be a bridge between the two. a bridge called responsibility. for every freedom there is a corresponding responsibility. we have the freedom of speech, but we have a responsibility to tell the truth. we have the freedom to keep and bear arms. but we have a responsibility to use those arms legally and responsibly. we have the freedom to vote, but we have the responsibility to educate ourselves ahead of time. we are considered the longest living democracy. but there are no guarantees. democracies require work. i am fine being in the minority. i don't mind if people pick freedom over truth and diversity over unity. so long as we all realize we need all four, probably in equal parts. and the best democracy is the one where the people ask what can i do to make us better rather than waiting on the

government to ask that question for us. i hope you've enjoyed tonight's conversations. for more check out my podcast at fox news podcast.com. thank you for watching. i'm trey gowdy. i will see you tomorrow night at 7:00. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." what a week and it's only thursday. but there has been only one story in washington, d.c. and across the country. there has been an enormous amount of talk not just this week but over the last month about violent extremism and the people who embrace it. the dangerous people. those violent are domestic terrorists we are told. they must be put down by force. the war on terror has moved statewide extremists have breached our walls they are inside our country and in response we must hunt them down. doing it is existential. our country depend on it. our lives depend on it. we are hearing thoseor