that's beautiful. see , nobody can resist the pull of america's teams. what a wonderful day. by the way, just starting to rain, jedediah, right now as we go. have a good day, guys. jedediah: have fun, will we'll make our picks tomorrow. pete: we'll see you tomorrow, guys. will: have a great saturday. >> what republicans have proposed is either to do nothing or not enough. all of a sudden, many re discovered fiscal restrain, and the concern for the deficits but don't kid yourself. this approach will come with a cost. more pain for more people for longer than it has to be. neil: all right, so much for bipartisanship, with all attention on getting that $1.9 trillion stimulus plan through pretty much as is, democrats are sending a signal, all the way up to the president

of the united states. it's kind of our way, or the highway. mississippi senator roger wicker on all of that very shortly, in the meantime, to mark meredith on how this is all going down, fueled by not only the president stating that this is the only way to do it, republicans, at a jobs report which might have helped his argument. mark? reporter: neil, good morning to you right that jobs report is having an impact on the discussions. president biden counting on house and senate democrats to pass his $1.9 trillion stimulus package. republicans want the president to reign in spending but the president made it clear yesterday that he's willing to do this on a party line vote if necessary to fund a few priorit ies like the $1,400 round of stimulus checks that he wants to see go out, more money for food assistance programs, as well as extending those enhanced federal unemployment benefits. the president making it directly in a speech on friday. >> others think that things are getting better and we can afford

to sit back, either do little or do nothing at all. that's not what i see. i see enormous pain in this country. reporter: this week, a group of senate republicans told the president that they're willing to work with them on a stimulus package, but now, a few days later some of those same senators say they're being left out of these ongoing negotiations. >> i wish my thoughts mattered we've only made an overture with the white house negotiating with them and they've not been interest interested. reporter: now, democrats have already started the process now of trying to write this package and there's going to be a debate that takes a few weeks on this and then they have to vote on this. the house speaker said at the white house yesterday that she believes this package can pass congress by march, when some of those enhanced unemployment benefits are set to expire, so

democrats very competent here that they can get this over the finish line, as for the president, he's spending his first weekend in his presidency away from washington here in his home state of delaware. we do expect the president to keep a pretty low profile, no public events but he says he's looking forward to watching the super bowl tomorrow with his family. neil? neil: all right, thank you very much, my friend, mark meredith with the president of the united states in delaware. let's go to senator roger wicker , the republican of mississippi, what he makes of this , go big or go home approach, the biden administration seems to be taking. senator, good to have you, but what do you make of that? the president seems to be saying he wants to work with you and your colleagues, but this thing has got to be big, and there's no dithering around with it what did you make of that? >> neil here is the reality about take it or leave it negotiations. with the cares act back in march , with at least two other occasions and then with a big $900 billion package later in the year, that was always done a

signature by president trump and worked out with massive support for republicans and democrats. only now with this first proposal under the biden administration are we seeing part of the differences. this group of 10 that met with the president were exactly the type of people to get another almost unanimous or hugely-bipartisan agreement and it really seemed like the president's team, the white house staff dug in and were adimate in saying no, it's our way or the highway. neil: well what prompted that as you know, senator, they said around $618 billion a third o of what they were looking at, you guys were miles apart. is there a chance that republicans could make a counter offer here to say something closer to at least a trillion, put off the $15 minimum wage thing which the white house already seems to be hinting is

open to. what do you do? >> i think we're less and less likely to get a deal now. we had the vote-o-rama that lasted all night on thursday night, and really, it smoked the democrats out on what they're looking for. what they really want to do is chip away at the trump tax cuts that have been so successful. they want to -- neil: but the trump tax cut, senator, would not be part of the stimulus plan, right? i'm sorry to jump on you there, but as far as i know, are they part of it? >> they hope in the bill that includes the stimulus plan, they have a reconciliation bill, yes, that would impose a whole different tax just like we did with reconciliation in 2017. its been one of the best things that the congress has done lately, for job creation, and by the way, the independent cbo analysis says by the end of the year,

purchasing power is going to be way up among americans, and at the same time, democrats are proposing to give give $2,000 cs to families that makeover $300,000 a year, to families that have not lost a paycheck and so our argument is let's target the relief. we'll vote for another covid relief package but let's make it targeted and let's be mindful of what president obama's treasury secretary did. larry sommers says check this size when the economy is already recovering, can be inflationary, so we have the bipartisan argument on our side that goes slow, and also just to reopen this government. neil: all right, senator, thank you very very much we'll see what happens senator roger wicker, of mississippi looking at where they can find some common ground, it looks like that's going to be pretty rough and again increasingly now, like this is going to be a one-way effort on the part of democrats

to get pretty much everything they want, we don't know for sure, but we are watching it in the meantime, a chance to catch up with dr. fauci, of course the chief medical advisor for president biden and we're looking at the virus that is really the underlying reason why we are looking at another stimulus measure of this size. included in that is a lot of vaccine distribution money and the like, but the one thing that i found interesting in talking to dr. fauci is this notion that teachers are reluctant to return to school if they haven't had vaccines. fauci is essentially poo-poo'ing that notion echoing something we heard from the cdc director herself. take a look. >> you can't have children going back-to-school as we've had in the past without necessarily having everyone vaccinated all the teachers oral the students vaccinated. neil: all right then there are fighting words and supportive

words to my next guest, san francisco city attorney, a democrat right now, whose essentially suing the school system there and saying look, it's safe to open, let's open, let's get the kids back. it's not that much of a risk, not nearly the risk its been painted to be. mr. herrera, thank you for joining us. what's the reaction you've gotten to this? >> well, good morning, neil. neil: good morning. i think the first was the first case we're aware of where a city essentially sued its school district to open but at least so far i think the overwhelming majority of feedback that i've heard has been positive. it's clear the status quo is not working for the 54,000 kids in the san francisco unified school district and it's time to get these kids back in school as 113 private and perochial schools in san francisco are open and we need to get these kids educated because it's for their mental

well being and the overwhelming majority of people think this is a step in the right direction. neil: they have to respond to that. have they responded yet? >> yeah, i think that what you've seen is the school district and the school board, which here in california, are separately entities from the cities themselves. they've talked about they don't really think that this lawsuit was productive. they say that they've had a plan , and unfortunately, the facts belie that under the california education code they are required to come up with a specific and detailed plan about how to open schools for in-person instruction as quickly as possible, and it's a legal requirement that unfortunately, the school district has not met, and that's what we have gone in the court to do is we'll be seeking a preliminary injunction this week to get them to file a detailed plan, specific as to how they are going to get these kids back

in school as quickly as possible , so we haven't gotten the legal response of our filing, but publicly, at least, the school district has said that they do have a plan, which unfortunately, that really hasn't been the case in the last 10 months. neil: you know, dennis, when i talk to a lot of teachers all over the country we had a good man it on this show and all my shows over the course of the last few weeks, they said to a man or a woman, it be a hell of a lot easier on them to have in-person classes that it's tough to do everything virtually and deal with the hardships of some kids who don't have internet verse or compute earls or laptops to participate and it be easier to be in-person, so i haven't taken a poll on this , and say whether that is really representative of most teachers, but what stops it? because it's not olny in your fine city but places like chicago and elsewhere, where, you know, normally, democrat- friendly constituencies

are arguing with their democratic leaders, and not doing that, so what is it the union? is it just a few teachers, what? >> i think, unfortunately, one thing is that we all know this started off this virus created a great deal of uncertainty and fear, understandably so, amongst our frontline workers and the like, families, but the scientific consensus, as you alluded to at the beginning of this segment with dr. fauci and others, the cdc, our state department and public health and our city, which has been very very conservative when it comes to reopening, t actually great success, has said that with proper mitigation measures, it's safe to go back into schools and to open and i think there's been a certain amount of education that needs to go on and has gone on and i understand that, but what is clear is that the status quo is not working and i know that there are a lot of teachers

the teachers themselves have been absolute heros in what they've done for our families and many teachers want to get back in the classroom but obviously, institutionally, i think things move a little bit more slowly and i'm hopeful that this lawsuit is going to spur some real action and encourage people to just get back to the table, come up with a plan, and get these kids back in school. because that's what needs to happen. neil: well you got the nation's attention dennis herrera, san francisco city attorney, please keep us posted on how the fight is going, thank you on saturday morning to tell us all about it, dennis herrera on all of that. you might have heard there's some kind of football game tomorrow, besides just the teams involved, how they're trying to keep it a safe and healthy one not only for those who are going to be in tampa, but for you, across the nation, maybe planning parties, and to hear the health authorities warn you. no super-spreader events.

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neil: all right, the theme at raymond james stadium tomorrow's super bowl will be played, but there's a great deal of concern not only just limiting how many are going to be in that stadium i think it's just a little under 20,000, so a third of its normal capacity, but what they're going to be doing in and around the town and of course, the message that the medical community is sending for those planning super bowl parties and the like that if they had their preference you should do outside, as if, and if you'll do anything inside keep it limited, keep it small, dr. alan joins us now, nfl chief medical officer, doctor, thank you for taking the time. people tend to gravitate to larger crowds though. it starts out innocently enough, and those crowds get big. what do you tell them, doctor? >> well, i tell them the same thing we've been telling our players, coaches and staff for the whole season and that is the best advice if you want to boil it down to one nugget is we

should all act as if someone is covid-infected around us at all times because if you do that, then you'll take care of all of the appropriate measures. you'll wear a mask, you'll wash your hands, you'll stay distant from people if eating without a mask you'll move away to be by yourself, you'll make sure symptoms are reported, and so that advice has carried us through our nfl season and it's the same advice we would share with our fans who maybe gathering with those they haven't been sheltering with throughout the pandemic. neil: what are some common tips, doctor? i know you're asked this question all the time but i've even heard they are telling folks avoid super bowl but buffe ts, don't have them picking around the food themselves and risk a spreading event what do you think? >> well, i think we have less concern now than we did early on in the pandemic about the spread by phomites, or particle transmission on surfaces. the biggest transmission events we've seen have been person to person contact through respiratory droplets so that's why masking is so key and it's

vulnerable when eating. if you're eating most people don't wear a mask when eating so if you're unmasked and eating and talking that's when you have transmission if people are in a close proximity to each other so that's why the eating of kind of grab and go style meals is really the most important element moreso than the food presentation. neil: you know what i've also seen, a little tangentia. had, doctor, but i live in new jersey, and they are expanding indoor dining in the state, but with a proviso that the better part be to wear a mask when even going out to restaurants obviously not when you're in the process of eating but what do you think of that, the double , triple kind of safety measures on top of the tsa now cracking down on those not wearing masks, for example, and serving fines of up to $1,500. >> well, the one thing i can share with you, neil, is that we found mask wearing to be one of the most effective strategies in the nfl environment. if we want back and looked at where we saw transmission and what really worked a lot of people focused on the fact we

tested our players every day, they focus on our contact tracing devices. those weren't the things that ultimately made us safe. what really made us safe is when we double down and had masks on at all times including on the practice field or in the weight room, and so we believe that masks are a really effective intervention strategy, and that's not just our belief, that's what's supported by the data, in how we were able to get through our full nfl season. neil: all right, doctor, thank you, i hope everyone heeds pretty common sense advice there , i want everyone to have a good time but not to ruin it for everyone else. doctor, thank you enjoy the game dr. alan sills on all of that. meanwhile, back to this whole budget battle here and the dash for cash. the push to forgive student debt some are urging within joe biden 's own party to go big on that, as well, up to $50,000 big , in student loan debt forgiveness. the president is a lot lower than that. i think there's a bit of a rumble on the left, after this.

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neil: all right, the great push now to forgive student loans. here the thing though, the fight really is within the democratic party, where joe biden wants to limit that to $10,000 worth of total forgiveness, where a number of progressives within the party, beginning with bernie sanders, chuck schumer among them, wanted up to $50,000. the implications of all of this , forget about whether we can afford this right now, we're running massive debt. that's a side issue but want to explore this in more detail with luke lord, wealth advisor, investment strategy, strategic wealth partners, adam lashinsky back with us, fox news contributor much, much more,

daniel demartion the am toker dallas head advisor. danielle, i know you've always been worried about the deficits and the debt and i always keep telling you, well, move on. so, i share your concern there, but i'd just be curious what you make of these competing plans. we don't know who would qualify for that, who would get that. my interests are a little bit more mile-high here to say. it will set in motion expectations of still other types of loan forgiveness, and that it could feed on itself. what do you think? >> that is certainly the case, neil. you're describing moral hazard, if you will, and i think what we're seeing in the beginning of the biden administration is pent-up progressive policy maker s. they really want to push through an agenda that doesn't really address the direct effects of the coronavirus and i think that's why biden is focused on this lower $10,000 figure. he's trying to college graduate

hiring is down 45% over the last year, so there are genuine issues with this cohort of americans, these young be entrants into the job force, who are settled with that but i think that rather than throw $50,000, which is going to setup expectations for future types of loan forgiveness or maybe even have students take on more debt than they otherwise would, it's setting a very bad precedent, so i would prefer that president biden holds the line on saying, you know what we're just going to put $10,000 out there, and directly relieve what's happening right now in these younger workers. neil: you know, 10,000, adam, or even 50,000, a lot of these kids coming out of school have a couple of hundred grand in debt. now, you wonder that even being the most generous you can be, is it going to really move the needle or is it going to setup expectations? >> as i thought about this , this week, neil, it feels to me like similar to immigration

reform. what this needs isn't a little momentary approach. it needs to be comprehensively looked at because it's a massive number. i mean, it goes over $1 trillion , and so i agree with you, i think anything will help. by the way, president biden doesn't just want to lower it from 50,000 to the schumer wants to 10,000. he also wants congress to act and he wants them to be accountable for it. these are all of the ways he's signaling that this isn't his top priority, other things are. neil: let me ask you about that, luke. if you forgive debt, much like this notion that you provide relief to students in terms of getting more loans that they want, in the past, colleges have used that as an excuse to keep jacking up prices, because the more aid the students get the more help the students get the more they can gouge them and the parents, so is that an unintended potential

consequence? >> that absolutely going to happen if that occurs we forgive all this debt but i have two sides o this. one the ethical side and two the business side and they both don't work. on the ethical side what about all of the people that made it a priority to pay off their loans? what about the parents that sacrifice their retirement? what about the people that were financially smart about picking a college? if i would have known my student loans were forgiven i would have gone to harvard or yale and picked the most expense ever place i could. i shopped around to 15 different colleges to find the most affordable and best value for me what do you think happens when that kind of behavior is rewarded? people become even more irresponsible because they know they can get away with it. on the business side of things nothing is free including money. it has to come from somewhere. the people that end up paying for these kind of things is middle class america through taxes so $50,000 in student loans forgiven could ultimately repay hundreds of thousands o of dollars additional taxes over their life that doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me. say the top 1% pay for loans through their taxes and you risk losing jobs and not having a job out of college after having your

loans forgiven. forgiving any kind of loans is a bad idea. the system is broken and has been for decades. the price of college goes higher and the value get is the same. you're starting to see a few trend of schools provide a free education with a contract that a certain percentage of your salary goes back to that college for the first 5-10 years out out of college. i think that is the future of education. you don't pay anything until you get a job and just make sure going to college works in your favor. neil: you were going to say something, adam? >> i was going to say what he's addressing is in far more detail what i was eluding to a moment ago, neil which is that this needs to be looked alt comprehensively including this cost of education issue that you've raised. there's no doubt that forgiving loans is going to rub somebody else the wrong way. we shouldn't overlook the point that the progressives are making on this which is that the overwhelming, the disproportion at number of students who have these loans are students of color, that's a

reality, we can be outraged about the forgiveness of loans or we can say this is a real problem in our society, we need to address it. neil: you know what's going to happen though, danielle is you can make the argument that people in arears on the rent because of their pandemic, those that missed the mortgage payment because of the pandemic, it'll start adding up here and then it becomes almost like a pe z dispenser how do we control that part? >> it's a really thorny issue, neil. when we first introduced the cares act forbearance on mortgages, 50% of mortgage holders were still paying down their mortgage. that number has dwindled to 12% and you hear these anecdotes about people gaming the system. i'm not paying my mortgage because i don't have to. well that's not responsible, and to luke's point earlier, we started to see the beginnings of declining prices for college for college tuition. these are the trends that need to come out of this.

colleges need to realize that they've been charging too much, even the subject of tenure is being addressed, so i think that this is a silver lining, if you will, to the pandemic because education inflation has been on a runaway train for years, and we shouldn't be broadcasting the wrong messages whether we're talking about student loans or whether we're talking about making good on your mortgage payment. neil: danielle, final word. i know you will come back with me a little later, great read of the situation guys i appreciate you taking the time. in the meantime, do you remember catch and release? remember that program? well, it is back. catch and release, part ii.

neil: all right, well, it follows a trend on the part of the new biden administration putting a freeze on deportation, also stopping extension of the voila long the u.s. mexican border and now talk of bringing back catch and release. alicia kunia has more. >> hi, neil u.s. customs and border patrol says it is facing a problem with multiple layers, cbp says not only is it seeing an increase from migrants in central america its agents are also running into families and unaccompanied children, add to that mexico's no longer willing to take families with kids who are under 12 years old

and cbp is also trying to stop overcrowding at shelters as a covid-19 precaution. in a statement, cbp says when long term holding solutions aren't possible, some migrants will be processed for removal, provided a notice to appear, and released into the u.s. to await a future immigration hearing. here is white house press secretary jen psaki when asked about concerns by border officials that migrants are being released into the community without knowing if they have covid. >> anything being done at the federal level to make sure that this is not contributing to the spread of coronavirus in this country? >> well certainly the reason we've put in a number of protections in terms of travel and otherwise is to keep the american people safe, but i haven't seen that report. i can't validate the accuracy of it, but i'd certainly point you to the department of homeland security for more specifics about what's happening at the border. reporter: just yesterday, the u.s. border patrol announced it apprehended 253 people in the country illegally, along the texas border.

that happened within an hour, multiple stash houses were found by agents and two failed smuggl ing operations were busted one other item, neil, and the biden administration has ended an agreement that the trump adminitration had to send asylum seekers to that country for refuge. neil? neil: alicia thank you very very much, let's go to chad wolf, former acting dhs secretary. secretary, thank you for taking the time. what do you make of all of this? a lot of the work you were doing is being undone. >> well, neil thanks for having me on. i think the situation on the border right now is very serious and very dangerous, as you're reporting showed, cbp is apprehending a little over 3,000 individuals trying to cross into the country illegally every day. that's about three times as much as we saw this time last year, and so in a covid environment, that is concerning, because they don't have the facilities, border patrol facilities to house these individuals as they process them. so, they are releasing them, in

some cases, into the community, and again in a covid environment very very dangerous but whether it's the pause on deportation, stopping the border wall construction, stopping the mpp program, the remain in mexico program and now the asylum cooperative agreement s i think up and down the road, up and down the line, i should say, it's sending a signal to those cartels and those smugglers and traffickers that when the border is open for business as long as you get inside the united states, you're here to stay throughout their immigration proceedings which we know is just a magnet for those that want to come here neil: all right, now, i know the administration has been saying, secretary, that it's not exactly the catch and release we had before, that this notion that catch illegals and then they return for a court date, and good luck if they honor that court date and show up. they are much tougher, stringent rules to this. i didn't understand that. do you? >> well so it's a little different than what we saw in

2019. they still have a title 42 public health order in effect at the border, so cbp is able to return or turnaround a number of single adults but at the beginning of your segment you talked about unaccompanied minor s and family units which are the two most problematic populations for cbp, and those are the two populations that you see most in a surge in a wave environment tomorrowing across that border, and so both of those are problematic. dhs and the biden administration has made a policy decision not to turn around un accompanied minors. instead, they are holding them in border patrol stations which are not built for covid-19, and then transferring them to hhs, so again, you're introducing covid issues into that mix, so you're not only endangering american communities along that border. obviously, frontline border patrol officials are certainly in danger, as well as the migrants themselves, and so again, those two populations in my mind are the most concerning.

neil: are you concerned that any action on the wall either rebuilding or deteriorating wall in some places or adding to existing structures has stopped completely? that it's not going to be another inch under a biden administration. at least not the indication we're getting. what do you think of that? >> yeah, i've heard that as well, and again, it's not what the men and women of the border patrol would say they need. i've talked to them over the past four years and every time i've talked to them they talk to me about needing that impedance and denial that ability to stop individuals or slow them down so they are able to apprehend them. the 3,000 i talked about are just the number of individuals that border patrol is able to apprehend per day. we know there's 20-25% of that number that are got-aways individuals we can't apprehend because we don't have that physical infrastructure, you don't have those agents in place along that southwest border, so, every inch, every mile that you're able to put an effective border wall system in priority areas that the border patrol has identified, i think is

absolutely critical and i will say that the biden administration talks a lot about listening to the experts as we deal with covid-19. i encourage them to continue to listen to the experts along that southwest border, the men and women of the border patrol, they will tell you exactly what they need to secure that border and i think it's incumbent upon dhs an the administration to give them the tools and the resources to do that. neil: all right, secretary wolf, very good seeing you again, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> okay, thank you. neil: all right, in the meantime , want to update you , sending the troops, about 1,000 of them, maybe more, to help distribute vaccines. when i talked to dr. anthony fauci about this he likes the idea even though he added the real problem seems to be that final mile, getting it into people's arms, after this. what are you doing? art class. it's abstract expressionism.

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neil: you know, it's weird math when you think of it better than 60 million doses have been distributed around the country in this country, and yet, 35- 36 million have actually received those doses, so there obviously is a problem getting those doses into the right people at the right time, in the right states and cities, enter, well our u.s. military, better than a thousand troops called into help get these vaccines out. you know, the issue then becomes how in that final stage, do you get them out? dr. anthony fauci is confident that there will be a smoother process this time and that the troops will help. let's get the read from michael levit, the former health and human services secretary, of course former utah governor as well. secretary what do you think of the plans to start using troops to speed this process up? >> it's a good idea. this is an all hands-on deck moment. we have always known pandemic planners have always known that

distribution be the challenge. this is a humanitarian mission for the military and i think as long as it's still operating under the control of the states or at least with the guidance of states, i think it's a very good idea, and i hope they expand it. neil: you know, there's no shortage of vaccines right now. that's the irony. obviously, the more you could speed that process up, secretary , to your point, the better, but obviously, fewer people have been able to get those vaccines. even now, there's about 40% that have, versus the numbers that are available. what is the problem? >> well, i think we should acknowledge that we'll get better at this. i have said metaphor icily if we were trying to distribute 300 million hamburgers, we could do that in a month, because we have mcdonald's and hardee's and things on every corner and we know how to do that, but we're

actually developing infrastructure and process and we'll be better at it next month than we are this month and i think it'll be better the month following so i'm not suggesting that there haven't been mistakes made, i'm not suggesting we couldn't have done better up to this point but this is a very complicated process to vaccinate 300 million people, twice. neil: you know, what's interesting about that is some states, to your earlier point, change the rules. normally, healthcare workers first and those in nursing homes and treatment centers and the like and in some areas they are giving it to teachers first and other areas people are cutting in line. the latter part and not the numbers to cause panic, but it's a little unsettling, but there is no clear policy on this , and i'm wondering if that's contributing to the confusion. >> well it's hard to know. if you make the same, if you do the same thing everywhere, you make the same mistakes everywhere. if you do different things

different places, you learn from it and that's an iterative process. some war planner once said that no battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy, metaphor icily again that implies that we're going to learn from this , and we already have. i mean, we've learned that we have to open the aperture and have wider groups of people getting it faster. i think the decision to focus on various groups was nobel and well-intended and i've participated at times in those decisions, but very quickly, people realize look, this isn't working. it's just slowing things down let's expand it, so i think this is an iterative learning process, and everyone needs to work hard to make it happen quickly. neil: michael leavitt, thank you very much. all right, in the meantime, the cdc is getting all sorts of guidelines on how to handle this even when it comes to super bowl parties how you conduct them safely.

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neil: you create something like this , doctors will always tell you i don't advise it but just do it for one day, get it out of

your system what do you say to that? >> i've never said that before. i grew up in a tiny household and everything is based around the food. it creates a common bond for everybody. neil: and he's back, rob del bal zo, gifted, gifted with food and great goodies two years ago, hard to believe that time has passed but i was thinking of you, my friend, and now with all of the concerns about covid and making it safe for those you're having at your home and limited how many you can have in your home maybe limited to the amount of food you can serve in your home, what do you tell them? >> you know, neil, it's so great that i'm so glad you had me back, and i was starting to think that we were only, you know, you only loved me for my food but now that i know that you enjoy my food i'm excited to be on the show, so we want to

really be careful. we want to get back to the gatherings and get back together , we want to enjoy our lives and what i'm telling people right now is it's tougher for the catering business like what we have right now, but what we need to do is when you've got gatherings of people, single person, one person should be in charge of dishing out the food and should be in charge of touching the food, segregating the food, we don't want people gathering all together around the food. and everything should be single- service. so, instead of having big bowls of chips and big platters, everybody should have their own individual plate, so this way, you know, you don't have double dipping, like seinfeld. you don't double dip and you don't have all the people kind of dayton -- neil: like you eat the wing and put it back on the plate. >> it's so funny because people , as a caterer myself, people don't realize how much

contamination goes on even if you're grabbing your bag of dori tos and throw it in your mouth, you've got the saliva on your fingers. go back in that bag and now you're cross-could be tammy nate ing same thing with dips and salsas and what we did here is make everything single-serve, you can have fun with it and build your own snacks and individual snacks if you wanted to. so i've got my daughter here helping me out. neil: i was wondering, yeah, hey , honey how you doing? you realize your dad is a real talent with this stuff, but point out what we have here and what looks good. >> so well, thank you, listen, i wish you could be part of, actually i told the booking agent, david that if you want, have a car bring down some food to you, so what we did here -- neil: no i'm on my way right after the show. >> you're more than welcome. neil: but yeah, please. >> you're more than welcome. so what we did here, we did kind

of an individual take on nachos. so we took our chili, our beef, our pork, whatever you wanted to put on the nachos themselves and instead of making a big platter and having everybody dig in and grab and do what they got to do, we made the individual bowl, and individual plate, where everybody has their own nachos, their own tacos. we did the same thing here. i did a cilantro pesto chicken mac & c heese bowl, so a couple variations of my smoked mac and cheese. i wish you could come here and taste it, we have our pulled pork. the wings, even though wings are cooked and usually served in groups, ku have your own different sauces and flavors and seasonings, and what i did was just individually bowl them out, individually plate it outlet people be separated so you can enjoy the game separately, together. neil: if i could ask your daughter a question. now she's learning from one of

the best. what are her favorites that you were showing there? so honey, when you look around the table, and your dad shows it and it looks all great, any favorites there that you like? >> i like the smoked gouda with the pulled pork. >> it's funny that you ask that , neil. so with the hybrid learning, kaitlyn is in school during the day, during the morning, and she comes to work with her dad and she usually keeps herself separated away from the action until she gets hungry, and you know, she kind of, give me the old, and that's how i know that somebody's hungry. neil: [laughter] we strategically placed the pulled pork mac and cheese in front of her because we know that's her favorite. neil: well kaitlyn, are you kidding? it shouldn't, kaitlyn thanks for joining us, you have a great dad, a gifted dad and it looks

like it's in the dna, it's running in the family. looks delicious guys i should be over in about a half hour at the end of my show but i'll be taking a jet to you to make sure no one beats me to it. all right, stay with us. you are watching fox. ...

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attractions. hey, lucas. >> well said. no president or former president has ever been impeached twice. tuesday the historic trial begins. arguments over allegations that donald trump incited the pilot mob to carry out that at the capitol last month and many say that trial violates the constitution. >> we have a house of fools because they elected nancy pelosi to be their speaker. i mean, look what they did in this impeachment, they didn't have a single hearing, not a sickle document, and they delivered it to the senated, but didn't deliver the papers in time to have a trial and now they want to continue with an impeachment trial for a man who left office two weeks ago. >> at least 17 republicans would be needed to reach a verdict, which is unlikely. and last week they asked him to testify under oath and the

president's attorneys declined saying it's a stunt. >> the broader concept has to be addressed, however, that this is an attack on the constitution of the united states itself and it can't go unanswered. it has to be a full-throated defense of the document. the man is accused, but it is the country that will suffer. >> congressman jamie raskin, the lead house impeachment manager responded saying president gerald ford and bill clinton provided testimony while in office. the key phrase there, neil, while in office. >> lucas, i'm curious, how long do they think this will take? >> well, since the republicans are not going to have the votes might not take a few more days, and certainly not more than few weeks. and the argument from republicans and even other quarters is that president

biden has a pretty ambitious agenda, there's a $1.9 trillion coronavirus stimulus package on the table and if the senate wants to deal with that, they'll have to deal with this impeachment trial quickly, neil. neil: and the house, i hope i'm right, 10 republicans voted to impeached the president, and many of them will be primaried because of that and do you know of senators who might vote to convict the president? >> mitt romney might do it once and people will be looking at his vote again, neil. certainly nowhere near the 17 votes needed by the republicans. you need 17 republicans to cross the aisle and of course, that's assuming that all democrats vote for impeachment. but we'll be looking at mitt romney, but i think just a few. the votes just aren't there, neil. neil: got it. lucas, thank you, my friend, very very much. if the votes aren't there, and the chief justice of the united states supreme court is not there, is it happening? is it going to produce any

results? to ken starr the former whitewater independent counsel, fox news contributor. what do you think, ken, as you know, things can take a sharp turn and your investigation came up with an intern discovery here. leave that aside, barring surprises and barring others we don't see, where does this go? >> i assume that there will be an acquittal by a very significant margin, given that a two-thirds vote is required. and many of those will be voting to acquit will be voting to acquit on constitutional grounds, not on the facts of january 6th for the very reasons that have already been stated, neil. this is, in my judgment, an unconstitutional process that's about to unfold in the senate, under the text of the constitution. so leave politics aside, and even leave the facts aside. let's look at the text of the

constitution and the text talks about removal. judgment and cases of impeachment shall not extend further than removal from office and then disqualification. so the tail is wagging the dog here and the house allowed the president to leave. he didn't run away, as did secretary bellnap their favorite example from the 19th century, which is totally off base. this is the president of the united states who is allowed to conclude his service in the country with accordance with the constitution and laws. they sat on the impeachment. so there's a huge disconnect between what the article says, the indictment and essentially and that's what it is, it's a criminal process now that i think is completely unconstitutional for a whole number of reasons, including the fact that the one true historical example, the resignation of richard nixon and once he resigned the impeachment process came to an

end. neil: of course, he was pardoned later on by gerald ford, but i'd be curious what you make of nancy pelosi's argument that if they didn't do something, if they didn't carry this to the senate as they are, then any future president, republican or democrat, could do all sorts of mischief in his or her final months with no recourse. what do you make of that? >> it's an utterly extreme, extravagant hypothetical and that's what it is. it's a hypothetical. never have we seen this in our country's history, but if she was so concerned, why didn't she direct the managers to immediately exhibit the article of impeachment over to the senate so that the impeachment process, the trial, could proceed, if he was such a clear and present danger, then march it over there. that's all you had to do. there were no national guard troops standing in the way of presenting-- preventing the house managers from presenting the article. they sat on it and allowed the

constitution to run its course and now they're proceeding unconstitutional and by the way, the chief justices to preside, he's not going to be presiding. a biased judge is going to be presiding, which is a due process violation. at every turn this is an unconstitutional proceeding. >> i'm just wondering where it goes. i know you're more prosecutor and interested this legal questions than the political ramifications. i remember after bill clinton impeachment in the house, surviving being convicted in the senate, that it didn't take that long for his popularity to start back to where it was and that republicans had overplayed their hands. i'm wondering in a weird way if this engenders sympathy for the former president that the democrats are going too far, they're not going to succeed at preventing him from running for office again if he wished, and this would actually help him. what do you think? >> i think what happened in the

clinton impeachment shows that the american people really do not like impeachment. they want presidents to serve out their terms, go for reelection as just happened, and then allow the process to run. so there may be some sympathy and empathy for president trump, the former president as a result of what unfolds, especially if republican senators are, as i expect them, to be very vocal, very effective in saying what is now proceeding is so unconstitutional is, we'll have an education here, a bill of attaineder and trying to punish someone who is a private citizen, and another constitutional problem with what's about to unfold. neil: they've talk about censure and i assume we're way beyond that now. so it's convict or not, right? >> they could have a negotiated

settlement. there's nothing to prevent the senators from saying let's go into executive session, get rid of c-span, get the cameras out of here and let's have a real conversation among ourselves and what is our duty? and so, censure has been used in our past. andrew jackson was censured, right. neil: yeah. >> so, it is in fact a tool. i understand the argument that's not constitutional, it's impeach or nothing. at least let's let the senators have the conversation and i know that senator tim kaine from virginia, according to reports, trying to at least begin a conversation among the democrats. they need to find an exit ramp because of the unconstitutionality of this proceeding. neil: all right. ken starr, thank you very, very much. the former whitewater counsel. he thinks they could turn a

direction all their own. we'll see next tuesday. in the meantime you've heard a lot of criticism among republicans criticizing a lot of joe biden's moves to cut down on the fossil fuel industry from shutting down the keystone pipeline, to putting a stop on all new oil and gas drilling on federal lands. but it's not all republicans. a number of democrats are saying mr. president, you're going too far.

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>> if you're going to parrott this high that we've got to do things to help the climate out, for god's sakes man get off your private jet and go travel with the rest of the folks out there if you're going to move around and the idea that he can so sit there and say they can get a job over in the solar

panel business. well, most those folks along that pipeline can't relocate to china because that's where most of the solar panels would be constructed. >> my area or even texas there is-- we're dependent on oil and gas and i do understand the transition period, i understand that. but keep in mind that if you look at the best case scenario it's going to be years before we can totally go from fossil fuel over to the alternative. you can't just keep the energy out and say, here are the winners, here are the losers. you've got to bring people together at the table and try to work things out. neil: all right. do not mess with texas. the read from a former governor there and the energy secretary of the united states, rick perfectly, and of course, hearing from you know, henry

cuellar. concerned that the move will hurt his state and jobs and hurt the entire country. the former energy secretary upped president trump. secretary, good to have you. what do you make of what both gentlemen were saying and coming at it from two political ends. >> great to be with you, neil. thanks for having me today. i'm going to enjoy this conversation because both former secretary and governor perry and the senator are right. and drives us away from gar bohn intense fuels like coal to natural gas and energy in the future, but it's important that we take the important steps to do that transition and what the former secretary is talking about, today in america we don't produce solar panels. we don't produce wind mills so for those who would say we can move faster into that transition, we have to be very careful because we're going to be moving those pipeline jobs, those pipefitter jobs over to china. and that's not the step that we

want to take. that's actually a step backward from energy independence, which we achieved here in america in the last three years. neil: you know, to say nothing of the battle royale within the democratic party between, you know, union members concerned about the loss of jobs versus the environmentalist wing of the party so the president has to deal with that, but i'm also wondering about the implications going forward and as john kerry said, a lot of these people can get solar panel jobs. that's a lot easier said than done and it's not like, you know, you built a career doing just fracking or oil and gas, and then you just move to installing solar panels. it's not that simple. >> it's not that simple at all and it's really just rhetoric. it's not true. so if you visit any of the union halls today, you look at the training programs that are in place, if you visit any community college, any trade school in america today, you'll see that the jobs that people want are in the trades. they're welders, they're

electricians, those are the jobs that pay enormous amounts of money today in this economy that's been created by the energy industry. so transitioning from a pipefitter to a paper pusher is not very attractive to any of these members of the industry. neil: and i believe and correct me if i'm wrong, secretary, because you're the expert here, when in assembling and building, manufacturing solar panels, what little there is in the united states, you're right to say a lot of it's in china, that's not done in one area. and i guess the way these are assembled, it's pretty quick and dirty and they move onto the next area of installing panels and the like. so, those oil and similar industry workers are used to staying kind of in one area, that they would have to be like gypsies moving all over, to keep up, right? >> that's true. solar panels are created cheaply now in china, efficient at what they do and obviously

they've got a competitive advantage with low labor rates. you're right the idea of moving jobs from north dakota, south dakota, texas, new mexico, many places west virginia and pennsylvania to china is not realistic. if we want to achieve the goals we want to achieve something that everybody wants to achieve clean air and clean water we have to continue along the path we've already started, production of natural gas here in america has reduced the carbon reductions that we all seek and if you look at what the international energy administration is saying, iea based in paris, you'll see that america has led the world in carbon reduction. and there's no country in the world that can much ma-- match that record the last 10 years. that's important that we continue that progress as well as with energy security and energy independence. neil: very quickly, the president talked about removing the tens of billions of federal subsidies that oil and gas industry receive.

what did you think of that, and whether a lot of that money moves over to some of these so-called cleaner energies, winds, solar, what do you think? >> subsidies in the marketplace are distorting, for whatever industry you provide them for. it's important as the new president begins the process of reviewing these and as the new energy secretary and john kerry and others who are going to look at this, they look at the distortions across the marketplace. if you want to do away with some of the subsidies, i might suggest to do away with all of them. neil: you're open and frank on all sides here. and of course, the former energy secretary under former president donald trump. we'll keep you posted on that and posted on another snowstorm that the northeast is bracing for. we're going to philadelphia or should i say the city of brrr-ly love. see what i did that? and tomorrow morning, it's

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>> all right. jeff bezos might be leaving day-to-day running of amazon to his top lieutenant, running the cloud business, but that doesn't mean that amazon related issues just disappear and go away. the national labor relations board just rejected amazon's intent to delay what was supposed to be a union vote happening in alabama. the company is quite concerned about it and this could spread like wildfire to other states, around the world as well. charles watson following this from atlanta. hey, charles.

>> hey, good morning, neil, and with that decision, workers at the alabama warehouse will be voting on monday to decide if they will or will not join the retail wholesale and department store union. now, amazon had been pushing for in-person voting, however, the national labor relations board denied that effort on friday and will allow employees at the warehouse on march 29th. the president of the wholesale and retail department store union released a statement, once again amazon workers have won another fight in their effort to win a union boys. amazon's blatant disregard for the health and safety of its own work force was demonstrated by its insistence of an in-person election in the middle of a pandemic. and the workers at the bessimer warehouse are the first to try

to unionize since delaware. and they're fought the effort and in alabama it's no different. on the amazon website they warn about fees should they unionize and warns workers, do it without dues and for the wages, high benefits that amazon offers. not only would it cover the year round employees, but cover thousands of seasonal workers as well and employees at the alabama facility are alleging that amazon is texting them up to five times a day to get them to vote no. we've reached out to amazon for comment and we haven't heard back, neil. neil: charles watson in atlanta on that. speaking of pay and benefits. the president is focusing on

$15 an hour. here is the thing, it doesn't necessarily have to be a make or break part of that $1.9 trillion stimulus plan and even if it's pushed, it isn't immediate, it could be phased in over five years. would that it more palatable for those against it and those that argue it endangers jobs. let's get to luke lloyd, and adam with us, a fox news contributor and danielle, i guess the obvious thing is the administration is not necessarily making it make or break, but it's interested in hiking that wage and maybe the likes of bernie sanders providing some wiggle room by saying do it over five years. what would the impact be if you did it over five years? >> well, obviously the impact would be mitigated over time if it was allowed to be stepped in, but i think we have to look

at the form of legislation first and reconciliation required that stimulus-- excuse me, that the bill not contain anything that is permanent in terms of how it affects the budget. this is something that is not discretionary, it should not be under the umbrella of this $1.9 trillion stimulus package if it's going to be passed reconciliation such that kamala harris, vice-president kamala harris casts the tie-breaking vote. the discussion in and of itself is inappropriate, but using reconciliation to pass this legislation is not appropriate according to precedent. neil: luke, what do you think? >> so we can talk about how raising the minimum wage would crush small business, which it would. and we can talk about how it would take away jobs, which it would. the innovation factor for america. america used to be the number one innovator in the world, and

now 11. that's scary, the $15 an hour would put us lower on that list. kids in college and high school, they learn to work and how can they do that when nobody will hire them because it's too expensive. what about college internships and jobs, sorry, they will be filled by others with more experience or even robots. the amazons and apples of the future, the start-up companies will have to have two ways to pay the employees, equity and salary. only so much equity to give out. the reason that minimum wage would cause companies that ultimately succeed to fail or move somewhere else making america fall behind even more. neil: adam, you could argue that it's different in a major metropolitan area to pay someone $15 or more an hour which is the cast from fast food joints to other businesses, quite different where the cost of living or the

pressure or the competition for labor isn't nearly as intense. does one size fit all? where do you think this is going? >> i think this is one of the major flaws of a federal minimum wage law is exactly what you say, neil. we know the cost of living is vastly different in different parts of the country so that's why different states have different minimum wages already for the minimum wages that they govern. you know, luke made a lovely speech about innovation. this has no impact whatsoever on your typical tech company which pays its workers in equity as you said, but primarily in salaries, not hourly wages. so, i think it's totally appropriate, as danielle said, that there's a lot of nuances in this that it will take some time to get ironed out and that it isn't specifically a covid relief issue and you can already see the biden administration moving in this direction. this is one of the things that they want, but they're not going to fall on their sword on, i think. neil: danielle, should it be

part of covid stimulus package at this time? that even if you wanted it, is now the time to push for something like this, with so many businesses really up against the wall? >> neil, we have seen utter devastation, specifically in the restaurant industry, and one of the other provisions of raising the minimum wage is how bartenders are paid. and they're paid mostly based, in wilmington, delaware, an owner of a pizza place wrote an open letter in the wall street journal to president biden. she's served him in the past and basically said if this goes through, my bartenders, who had tended to make 20 to $30 an hour with tips, but if you put this as a baseline for their salary i'm going to end up having to close my doors. again, we've already seen so much restaurants across the country close. why would you kick an industry that's been hit so hard when it's already down on its knees, neil. it makes no sense. this is the most inappropriate time to be discussing this type of legislation.

neil: all right. still early in the battle and i think adam, as you pointed out here, even joe biden has intimated it's not a make or break issue here at least as part of this stimulus package. we'll see where it goes. guys, thank you, have a safe weekend if you watch the game, or just have fun. in the meantime, a 25-year-old quarterback sensation that has mesmerized the world. i'm not talking about patrick mahomes. i'm talking about 1969 and a fellow named joe namath. he's next. research shows that people remember commercials with exciting stunts. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's something you shouldn't try at home... look, liberty mutual customizes home insurance so we only pay for what we need. it's pretty cool. that is cool! grandma! very cool.

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>> all right, getting ready for the big game tomorrow. including making sure everyone stays safe. there might be fewer people than normal inside the stadium, but there are a lot of people watching all around the world. phil keating takes a look at what they're doing to keep them all safe in tampa. phil. >> hi, neil, yeah, security is big down here. in fact, the justice department announced late yesterday the first federal arrest and federal charge filed against a man who was flying his drone in restricted air space and all of this is a no-drone zone. that is live action security enforcement. they are patrolling up and down the hillsboro river here because that's where all of the

nfl experience and a lot of the people are. making sure everybody stays safe. the other day we flew in a blackhawk helicopter with the customs and border protection around the stadium and they've got several assets ready to deploy just in case on game day, anybody tries to fly too close to the stadium. there's a 30-mile radius in every direction around the stadium on game day. we also went in a boat and patrolled the water ways. we're trying to keep this as secure as possible. coming back live here, we're at the envelope experience, which is always super popular, every super bowl week. today is the last day, this is the 40-yard dash. so, moms, dads, sisters and brothers are all lining up and racing-- here comes a race right now. and they turn pretty quickly. this is about family fun today. you can look at memorabilia like every single super bowl ring ever issued so that's 54 of them and who is going to

win? number 14. not bad, not bad. then over here, i mean, there's so much to do here. i can't tell you how much. we couldn't even fit it all into one story. oh, there we've got super bowl spirit and over here, people are having fun, throwing the pass and pretending they're the quarterbacks and get it in the net and you get to brag about it. let me knock one out. got to ride the elephant, neil. oh. . >> one more right here. >> oh, one more, real quick. all right! one for one. neil, it's a fun day. if you've got time come on down. neil: not bad, my friend. not bad. that's a good assignment, phil, not too shabby. phil keating in the middle of that. >> very good week. neil: and very good week and the stadium tomorrow.

25 and international sensation. i'm not talking about the chiefs patrick mahomes, i'm talking about 1969 and a fellow named joe namath. there are big differences. and mahomes and his team is favored against them, and he was an under dog and we know how that changed guaranteed bets on the super bowl and that was early, i believe the third one. he electrified a nation and a world. joe is here. thank you. neil: i know you guaranteed that the jets would win and everyone laughed at you and mocked you and said, does he know what he's facing? well, apparently you knew enough and did enough to do just that. fast forward to today, and even

though there's a great deal of interest in brady and the like, he's old enough to be the other guy, the other quarterback's father. you didn't deal with that. is there pressured on the favored team? >> well, there's pressure on both teams. they're going to try and make this like a normal week's work, a normal game, but it's in fact not the game it's a great dream come true for most of the players for the first time there. you play the game to have fun, enjoy it with your teammates and and to win, man. and you want to win the championship, and to win the championship in the big leagues, whatever it is, that's the ultimate. neil: you know, your win, joe and the way you pulled it off. it was a banner year for new york, and later on would win

the world series, you were the first that got notoriety to be on major tv entertainment shows, ed sullivan and dick cavett. that had never been done. muhammad ali would do the same. you were the first in that regard. it was a whole different sort of a world where all of a sudden our athletes became big media stars. >> well, being in new york, it was a major factor, of course, neil. neil: sure. >> and part of the ownership was familiar with the team being networks. and we only had three tv networks at the time. neil: that's right. >> so based in new york, i was lucky to be associated with the ownership that we had and they helped me out big time as far as being recognized across the country. neil: my favorite part was ed sullivan saying he's a really

big deal. [laughter]. that's my ed sullivan and i'm going to stop there, joe. what do you make of the game? much has been said about tom brady of course, he's what, 43 now. i think he's 84, but i'll go with 43 and that, you know, it's getting kind of long in the tooth, but he keeps doing it. 10th bowl now. what do you make of the guy? >> remarkable, absolutely remarkable. we know that the training methods are better these days in all sports, the nutrition is better, the guidance is certainly better and i don't know if anybody is going to do this again, i doubt it. he is an a remarkable athlete and off the field he carries himself the same way. neil: i'm sure you look at the pay packages for these guys. actually brady is 18 million, a fraction. money guaranteed to make now over the next decade. do you ever look back at that

and say, man, would have, should have, could have? >> no, not would have, should have, could have, but how different it was. i reflect back and think about the guys that were angry, the veterans that were angry because i was the bonus baby. i was coming in and signing and getting a contract already that was higher than what these guys were making. i had teammates on our team, on our championship team whose salary was five figures, $10,000, $15,000 salary a year, and these guys were going to work before we had practice at noon. before we had to meet. so there was some animosity that way, sure, but it's become realized over the years that it's a huge business and the numbers, the union's gotten stronger, the player unions in all the sports where they have partaken in a major part of the

capital that comes into the team. so it's crazy. when i hear guys making $35 million a year playing ball. oh! (laughter) >> you know, for a season. neil: come on, joe, that's chump change to you. all right. thanks for some great memories my friend and just being a classy guy. i mean, you've weathered these years very well, very, very well, talk about tom brady, you're doing some things right yourself. enjoy the game, joe. any favorites you have? how do you think it's going to go? >> well, i'm hoping for a good game, a tight game down to the fourth quarter and leaning towards tampa bay. living here in florida for one thing, but knowing guys on both sides of the ball, i don't pull against them. mother nature's going to come into play, too, i believe. we're forecast for some rain

and wind and that may influence the outcome, also. but either team, whoever has their day, man. whoever makes the fewest errors, mistakes, so we're going to be in for a real treat. neil: all right. thank you. joe namath, thinking how he changed sports before we know it, before it was a cottage industry and athletes as celebrities. it started really with one joe namath. stay with us.

>> all right. a story of two republican congress women and how they fared this week. you know the story well and so does bud, the hill editor in chief. trying to keep a party together in the middle of that herculean task. how do you think that republicans ended the week with both of these? >> well, neil, i think they did okay and just okay. i mean, democrats are playing offense and trying to tie the party to q-anon and taylor

greene. the election is a long way off, a couple of years. i don't think they'll remember this. the question is will taylor greene continue to get attention. and they were smart to keep her on, but they're moving on. kevin mccarthy says we need to unite. they have a good shot to win the house in a couple of years, but if they're divided they're not going to win it. >> taylor greene is still more popular in her district than liz cheney is. the president says we'll remember those who voted for impeachment and we're going to primary you and john thune, he had the audacity the opposition to the electoral vote was getting overdone. where is this going? >> former president trump has been kind of quiet, obviously banned from twitter, but that's not going to last.

they are definitely going after republicans who have crossed the president, especially cheney because she was one of the 10 who voted for impeachment. this is a test. if you look at trump's record in primaries, it's really, really good. this is the battle and shaping up to be a battle of kind of mitch mcconnell versus donald trump. they haven't talked since mid december. mcconnell is trying to steer the party away from trump and trump is not going to go anywhere. of course he's not going to be convicted by the senate. who knows, he could run in 2024. neil: we shall see. the hill editor in chief in washington and where i guess they're expecting snow tomorrow as they are in much of the northeast. meanwhile, things did stabilize at the game stops and amc's and all of that, robinhood opening up trading in all of those shares and others. if you think that's got the government off of these guy's backs, think again.

>> all right. the markets why in a panic mode after game stop and they had a funny way of showing it. by week's end. all were up and s&p 500 hit a record. and charlie gasperino, the joe namath of reporters, legend before his time. what calmed the markets down. >> i would say that's an interview with a childhood icon for me, broadway joe, so-- >> amazing. >> amazing stuff. listen, i think what calms the markets down is, you know, what should calm the markets down. fiscal policy, expansionary fiscal policy. we'll get a deal, a lot of

money. traders like that. they're not raising taxes just yet. and traders don't like that or invests generally don't like that. and we don't know what is happening with inflation, but the markets haven't priced in higher interest rates because the fed is loathe to raise interest rates. you put that together and it overshadows robinhood. this is not going away. robinhood and the trading frenzy it fomented is not going away. it's now going to other markets. you can see it in bitcoin and maybe other stocks. and it's a new phenomenon, low cost trading and low that in there with low interest rates and borrowing fees and an issue that regulators will address. i tell you the people at robinhood i've been speaking with clearly confirmed to me that, that the -- the momentum under ipo claims, which was first half of this year, has

clearly been halted, okay? that doesn't mean they won't do an ipo, that doesn't mean they can't do it in may, they are now not focused on an ipo, they're focused on the possible regulatory impact that could come to them. and that's with new capital requirements. neil: is that a given, charlie? you're saying that that's a given, that washington is going to do something, they just don't know what? >> i think nell' do something and i think it may be something that doesn't really matter so they can do their ipo, but you know, depending on that regulatory response. whether it's a curtailment of payment for order flow, that could have a big issue on their finances because they sell it and the orders to match and makes a lot of money doing that and allows them to do no cost trading. if it's a capital requirement they'll figure out how to get more capital or maybe align with a bank. they don't know yet, i don't know and congress really doesn't know, but they are bracing for all of this stuff and that's why we we talk about momentum for the ipo is put on

halt, it's secondary to get through this time. we should point out that the ceo will speak before the house financial services commit on february 18th. and it's interesting from what i understand, he's likely to be joined by representations from reddit, remember, that's the message board, a lot of people say fueled some frenzy in the penny stocks as well as from the hedge fund business who will probably get grilled on short selling, whether it's something proper to short a stock betting its price is going down. so, you know, it could be-- it's very interesting, no one knows where it's going. tell you that there's an idea out there, and already reported about the need to settle trades faster, not two days, which means they have to put up more money and make it instantaneous. and i hear he's going to bring that up, the house financial services committee on the 18th. neil, back to you. neil: all right. thank you, my friend. enjoy the super bowl.

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>> the debate over whether to reopen schools heats up for millions of students, parents in classrooms across the country. we'll talk with senator marsha blackburn who has made the issue a top priority. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington, i'm griff jenkins. >> i'm alicia acuna. we'll be going that to interview in a moment. first, president biden takes aim at his predecessor telling cbs there's no need for president trump to receive intelligence briefings now that he's out of the office.