great to have you. thank you for watching. outnumbered starts right now. i will see you at 3:00 p.m. for "the story." take it away. >> fox news alert, growing bipartisan starts for an investigation and claims that andrew cuomo's administration covered up data on the extent of covid nursing home deaths. even 14 state democrats are joining republicans, pushing to strip him of his powers. this after i top aide admitted to holding aid. over concerned the justice department might use the intro against them. as critics slammed him, saying and sending nursing covid patience back. they said the team is handling may be critical. >> the admission includes the intent of wanting to block a doj investigation. while there's been a discussion

that's been underway for several months with regards to the different acts of criminality with the original decisions with that order. the cover-up is looking like obstruction of justice. we want answers and accountability. it's not us, we are not asking for it for us, it's for the thousands of families of dead newark seniors demanding this accountability on behalf of their loved ones. >> you are watching "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno. kennedy, fox news correspondent gillian turner, fox business anchor dagen mcdowell, and publisher of "the federalist," host of "the federalist" radio hour, been dominant should. welcome and good morning to you all. i would like to talk with you. welcome back to the couch. what we are watching here, it appears the cover-up implies such a level of culpability and where is the ownership here.

this is the governor of new york and people died under his watch. it appears we are looking at, instead of a leader, a liar, far more interested in self-promotion then facing this head-on with responsibility and transparency. your thoughts? >> thank you, emily and it's good to be back. governor cuomo is in many ways a media creation. it's really fitting that he got that for his performance, pretending to be a governor, pretending to be a leader for all of us to see. i think the media was happy to use him as a tool against president trump and a lot of different ways, as a reflection of responsible leadership. what we are learning more and more with each passing week is that has a administration didn't just make terrible decisions which i think we've known about for a while, but they took a lot of deliberate steps to cover up

these decisions and to make sure they can see the light of day. unfortunately we have a media conglomerate, a group of people who are perfectly happy to put their own partisan desires, hopes behind politicians who share their ideology. and not take a second look at the steps and decisions that are along the way that could put people's lives at risk. particularly in this context, one governor cuomo was so aggressive with marketing himself, pushing out the best selling book, advocating for his own leadership. making no mention of these controversial decisions and blaming things on everybody else, not just the white house but other governors, ron desantis. part of the thing that will be funny about this, the way he tries to pin all of this on evil republicans or something like that. remember when he blamed "the new york post" and right wing media for even making this

a story? it turns out they were right all along. we have to look at governor cuomo, we also should have a skepticism towards every branch of the media that allowed him to get away with what seems to be not just an ethical or leadership failing, but something that borders on criminality. >> to his point, the call for investigation and removal are bipartisan and they extend beyond the borders of new york. >> they do and you basically need your own political party to turn against you to kill your career. right now andy cuomo is political, this is not about him. despite his efforts to keep the spotlight on him all day long, every day, this is about justice, new york's elderly who died because of him. who died alone and afraid and

it's about justice for the grieving families left behind. more than 15,000 people died in new york's nursing homes. can he just apologize to start things off? this is one of the problems with a one-party state like new york. "the wall street journal" editorial board goes into this. it's going to fall on democrats in albany to take action with hearings. we are starting to see a little bit of that. we need to know how many people are actually involved in the cover-up because a number of senior officials have recently left new york state health departments. you need to have state and federal prosecutors, emily, start to investigate and potentially prosecute this cover-up. and you need the big media to stand up and back these families who have lost their loved ones.

listen, we knew this happened the day after that was signed, sending patience back to the nursing homes and preventing them from testing those individuals, we knew that because "the wall street journal" wrote about it. nursing homes, they cried to the heavens, don't do this, you are going to kill people! instead he was doing the show on cnn! let's start with them! talk more about all the people who died because of your brother! >> emily: julian, it appears the white house has had an about-face. let's watch when president biden has praised governor cuomo for his response to the pandemic. take a listen. >> i think it's the standard. i think he's doing a great job. i think he's doing an incredible job. his briefings are a lesson in leadership. >> i think he's capable.

>> emily: but this is how the white house responded on friday when asked about governor cuomo. >> does he have confidence in his handling's of the pandemic? >> he hosted governor cuomo and a bipartisan group of governors to get their perspective from the frontline. not to give anyone a sense of approval or seek a stamp of approval. >> it's presumably a walk back for the white house. it's presumably, those comments are presumably an acknowledgment that president biden has been breached about facts coming out of new york state and finding it more difficult today to praise him then it was a few months ago. that clip from jen psaki you just played highlights of the other really big, important point in all of this which is even bigger than governor cuomo is that, americans, voters,

media, they don't really care about policy that much. they don't focus on it. they prefer to focus on their personalities and the whole cuomo saga speaks to the fact that if you get on the national podium and you say all the right things, the right combination of authoritative and compassionate, you are going to get a free pass. people are going to listen what you say and stop following what you actually do, what policies you decide to implement. this is a major problem across the board in american politics. it started in earnest with president trump and the way the media cover him. it's continuing now, we are seeing it with top-tier democrats. i think there is a reckoning coming. >> emily: let's talk about the report for a second and governor cuomo's response, not a single author is listed by name and in fact with the external

website there is only a list of four reviewers, none of whom are epidemiologists. there is no mention of the data revealed by the airport come out of his a administration that sites almost 60% of nursing homes did not have a single covid positive case before receiving. let's watch his response, the day the report came out and they will get your response. >> of all the deaths in this nation from nursing homes! new york state was only 28%. we are below the national average number of of deaths in nursing homes. who cares, 33, 28, died in a hospital, died in a nursing home. they died.

>> what a callous bastard! who cares, people who lost their family members, people who are unable to say goodbye when someone was healthy days before is now infected that they have no way of fighting. and now you've got family standing around realizing, this didn't have to happen. their loved ones didn't have to die. if you are saying, who cares, you're saying the most vulnerable citizens and your state or disposable! it's awful. i hope that the federal government investigates here and what you see happening in california is an appetite for recall. that's going to spread to new york. you know why, people are sick and being told they need more government and everything will get better because people who are offering more government are heavy-handed thugs! and they are not doing anything

to make these things better. they're unemotional, incredibly callous, and ultimately destructive. democrats in albany should be mad! they should stand up against this governor and they should want to protect people who live in new york regardless of whether or not there democrats. >> that's absolutely right and the notion of governing, a population you feel is this potable is reprehensible. i hope a last ditch, he's never electorally forgiven. scandals keep her rocking the project as the anti-trump conservative group faces allegations involving millions of dollars and were some of that money went. plus, the home of the defund the police movement doing a big about-face. next, why the city of minneapolis is backtracking on the plan. ♪ ♪ ts happen, every day.

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>> the future of the anti-trump project is now up for grabs. scandals are piling up in their accepting online's donations. it began with accusations of sexual misconduct about john weaver. 21 focus "the new york times," "new york magazine" subsequently reported three of the accusers are former interns with the lincoln project who claim he made solicited comments to them directly. record shows the group which raise $90 million so far has funneled large funds owned by various cofounders, including strategic communications, they got over $24 million, cofounder

digital got over $20 million as well. here's what the cofounder who resigned over the weekend said when asked about the group's finances. take a listen. >> all the money went towards where it should. out of $87 million that's raised by the lincoln project, 63-66000000 of that money went to voter conduct, contact. and to voter contact programs. speak a word of the other money go? >> the law requires to make disclosures, but you don't have to disclose subcontractor payments which is how you protect your staff and all sorts of vendors from the harassment of the trump people. >> i'm coming to you first. we know how the super packed worked. the other stat here is that of the $87 million the group has raised since they were founded,

fox news has been doing investigating, over 50 million has gone in direct payments to groups that are connected with the group's cofounder. that kosher? >> no, it isn't. that's exactly the thing we see in a lot of the different packs that are scams, which is essential you raise the money and then you funneled out money through your own entities in order to make the buyers, et cetera that you do along the way. it's a way to kind of bite the apple over and over again. it's something people are very familiar with in the political space. one of the things we need to keep in mind, none of these project folks, none of these consultants would be a thing, but for their partners in the media. you build them up, make them a much bigger deal and put them on tv over and over again to criticize president trump.

well aware that there's been a lot of questions, both their methods and the case of john weaver, pointing out that this, these are questions he was raising more than 30 years ago that nobody wanted to touch, and yet everybody was happy to look in the other direction as long as they were useful. you are only seeing these reports now because the lincoln project is no longer useful to them. they don't need these folks anymore to beat up on president trump now that he's not in office and so they're coming out with the things they've been hearing about. another example of why you can't trust the media to frame things correctly when it's republican on republican warfare and political conflict. they will shade any direction with people they agree with. >> the groups have not tweeted the last few days, the last time was february 11th which means

they've stayed silent on his acquittal and now they're saying something else. i want to get your take on the legal framework. fox news is learning the fbi has questions several people on john weaver. they have not confirmed if there is a official investigation, but there are interviews. what do you think is likely coming down the pike if you had to project forward? >> this reminds me of the situation, the glittery rise to stardom and infamy with public support and media support and exposure. and then the spectacular crash and to criminal charges. we know the fbi is investigating into john weaver, however we don't know if he's the center of the investigation and from what we know, it appears the scope is quite narrow. regardless of your employment situation and llc, you are

subject to sexual harassment laws, city and state and i know the lincoln project is that we only have 40 employees, doesn't matter. everyone is subject to the same laws and that includes fraud and corruption. i want to point out as well, both john weaver and rick wilson have federal tax on both of their respected homes. their issues aren't limited to sexual harassment and those allegations. to ben's point about media, and his 17 television appearances after axios report, not one question was raised for any of the cofounders or associates on this issue until they "new york times" has covered it, perhaps because there are no longer of use to the democrats. >> let's take a deep dive and look at the top donors. we have the top three i want to pull on.

gordon gaddy, descendant of him, he's donated a million. following behind david geffen for a hollywood mogul producer, donated $100,000 followed by susan disney, i think she's the grandniece of walt disney, having $100,000. read those tea leaves for us, tell us what those names tell you? >> that rich people hated donald trump and they were silly with money and they were just like, like a confetti canon of political favor, they were blasting it out there. these people donate to all sorts of political causes. he's a big democrat donor. he wants help me remove a bee, a

stinger from my bottom. [laughter] true story. not only is it loaded with tax, it's inappropriately named. abraham lincoln was the embattled president speaking a second term. he was very unpopular in the middle of a bloody civil war that had no end in sight. he was being challenged by george mcclellan, the civil war general he fired several times and teed an ax to grind and he was the acts, which at about the mcclellan project. at such a stupid name. there are so shortsighted. george conway alone is so wildly disgusting and inappropriate. the way he airs his family's dirty laundry. all these people think, now i need to go away, they may need to go to federal prison! >> on that point to the naming

of the project, i saw a pretty funny meme that was telling us that abraham lincoln was distancing himself from the project. [laughter] >> take my word for it. >> i think it was the babylon bee. [laughter] >> take a quick listen here. i'm trying to pull myself together to get your reaction. >> in june the group is told about weaver, about these horrible text messages and messages to young boys promising sex for jobs and they did nothing. >> the money was too good. >> dagen: this is a sickness. these people overlooked and covered up in the name of

destroying him and they're trying to use their stance as an excuse for it. this is -- this is like the root of projectile vomiting. i want to add this though, this is the same behavior among the media and the pair fold that led to the cover-up of harvey weinstein. you know, big money, very powerful, connected, getting people in the media book deals, we will buy that screenplay you wrote. the politics was right. covered up for harvey weinstein for decades as he raped and abused women, even jeffrey epstein. when does it end? this is appalling. >> that's the right question. health officials are ripping the cdc's new guidelines for

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ben, the city council this time has voted unanimously, unlike in december when they voted to slash the budget by $8 million which was not unanimous. your thoughts? >> i think we need to look back at the people who are pushing for this funding, particularly a lot of corporate america was going a long with the pressure campaign to make the decisions that we ultimately no effect to those areas that have the greatest need for prevention of crime the most. that tends to be poor and working-class neighborhoods. in this instance we can see yet again that this is a shortsighted approach to problems of policing or community and police relations. one that doesn't lead to people actually being safe. >> cities are hemorrhaging police officers because of budget cuts and retirement,

being hired by other departments because as one seattle police officer told me, i want to go to a community that wants us. one budget cycle will likely not repair or restore the damage done. >> yeah! all you have to do is look at new york city and see the way they are treated. this is my big warning in the summer, you know, beware your dreams for they may never come true. i really thought they overshot the mark. defund the police is such a horrible, blanket message when what was incredibly necessary not only in minneapolis, criminal justice reform, where they would sit down and figure out what they can do better, how they can train their officers differently to respond to ways that would preserve life and they were eager to have that

conversation. they were so demonized and vilified and defunded in places like minneapolis that, why would you want to work in a place or a profession like that where people who are your boss advertise that they hate you. unfortunately it's going to happen, the criminal justice reform movement has passed and you're not going to see any meaningful change. good job. >> juliann? >> gillian: the city council, law enforcement and city council says they have 638 officers who are available to help control the streets and keep law and order across the city. it's a woefully inadequate number. they're hoping to get it up to 675 which is way under the limit. some areas need this. one quick last point, the mayor

said two days before this vote went down that they were starting to screen candidates for police officers to see if they had degrees. the bar is still moving in the other direction. >> looking forward to your perspective and the next block. the cdc says teachers don't need to be vaccinated for students to return to classrooms, but some of the other regulations could make reopening stuff. the governor of florida slams the white house saying it's floating covid travel ban while not checking my grits at the border. >> of course they're not being screened, this is all political. he is letting illegals pour in, they're not doing any covid tests. ♪ ♪ introducing refiplus from newday usa.

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the agency did not make teacher vaccinations a prerequisite to get back to in person learning, but health officials are concerned about the rest of the lot. "the washington post" says "new and unnecessary demands that will ultimately keep millions of kids out of school." this includes virus infection rates that almost no part of the u.s. currently meet, dr. anthony fauci now says the president's $1.9 trillion stimulus bill has to pass for schools to reopen. the math makes me shake my head. of the 68 million passed last year, more than 90% hasn't even been spent, but now tony found she says, we need the additional $130 billion to reopen schools? and there is no, whether or not the schools reopen. why is that editing involved in

the politics? >> i know you are a big sci-fi fan, your member in "star trek" when dr. mccoy would say, i'm a doctor. i would like them to say, my doctor not a politician. he's acting like a politician! he saying you need to pass a huge -- frankly i would like him to come forward and say, we need a $50 minimum wage. we need to deal with the problem of systemic racism before schools can reopen because that is practically what he's saying. there is a massive amount of money, tens of billions of dollars designed to go to k-12 education for this purpose. what we really see here, we can blame this on the teachers unions if we want, but the reality is that without democrats politicians enabling these unions to exercise the

power they have, then we would see kids back in school across the country as opposed to the reality today where, in certain states kids are learning, way they been consistently around the world, the kinds of measures necessary to put in place. you have kids falling further and further behind in ways that will follow them for the rest of their lives. >> a generational setback for women in the workforce as well. kids and parochial schools and person learning, private schools, but public school students, those with people who need to be in schools and get lunch for example, you know who doesn't have their back? democratic politicians and the unions who are power hungry science deniers clearly hate kids. >> they do and shame on these unions! they are incredibly powerful and we are seeing how powerful they are and parents are beyond

frustrated. i have a sixth grader, she's been there for six months and she's never stepped foot in her own school! we've been promised that they will reconvene sometime next week. i don't know i believe them because i don't think there is the impotence for teachers to go back to work! i don't think they want to be disciplinarians. i don't think they want to be in charge of 25 kids in a single classroom. you know what? they can go back. you don't need more money. you can do it with social distancing, masking, ventilation, you can do this and make it work, but unions don't want to and neither do teachers. >> they could have been back in school last year. children don't get the virus at the rate of adults, they're less likely to have it and have severe cases period. the other thing the cdc is

doing, saying new guidelines for transmission of the virus, transmission rates where schools are. that's a smart policy, but you can't set the transmission rates so low that not a single state or community has yet to cross that threshold which is something it appears the cdc is trying to do. smart to tie the two together in the broader context of the communities. you don't want kids getting sick, but you can't factor essentially every school out by saying that her transmission rates. >> they also say apart from 3 feet, that's the consensus among the scientific community. >> they are destroying children psychologically as well. senator ted cruz tweeted out some provocative questions that never got asked to former president trumps impeachment trial. what are virtual couch would've asked if we had the chance.

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>> 150 million people under winter storm warnings as temperatures and winds sweep through the country. the latest on new york governor andrew cuomo's growing call for him to be stripped of his emergency power on his downplaying of the nursing home death toll here in new york. a million american mothers have left the workforce due to the pandemic. a mom in south carolina will joining us live at the top of the hour. we began a brand-new week, at top of hour. ♪ ♪ >> thank you. ron desantis slamming president biden for rolling back rules for migrants at our southern border while the white house weighs new restrictions for americans traveling to states like florida.

the clamp down outbreaks. watch. >> of course they're not being screened because this is all political. he's opening the border, he's letting illegals pour end, they're not doing any covid tests. he wants to potentially make you take a test if you get on an airplane and fly from one american city to the next. or he wants to prevent travel to the state of florida? you can't square wanting opening borders for illegal aliens but then also restricting u.s. citizens from basically traveling around the country as they see fit. >> prohibition and restriction. he says that if the biden administration does limit travel to florida, he will sue and make his case to federal court. what do you see here? >> he has a great point and he would have a sound legal case. i want to point out the fact that now democrats are calling for tearing down the wall,

spending tax dollars to tear it down and for an administration that has proclaimed that every decision and policy will be of the backdrop of climate change, i would think the ecologically minded members of the democratic party, by necessity, should be really interested in cleaning up the southern border of california, american communities are literally being destroyed from the river that six months ago, "the washington post" claimed was the result of u.s. imperialism. they are better ways to expand the u.s. tax dollar money by democrats, and that party should be in favor for it. >> been, is now the time to tackle immigration? do we have such a good handle on covid that we can go ahead and focus on that instead of getting americans relief and back to work? >> i think you are going to see in the coming months major focus

on southern border issues. we already see increased tension between the president of mexico and the biden administration. the president got along pretty well with donald trump because all he cared about was border security and basically left mexico to himself. this is going to be a situation where they will demand a lot of mexico and they are incentivizing migrants to come up through mexico and across the border. that's going to be a whole hassle with them to deal with. this will continue to be a problem and there isn't a consistent standard when it comes to testing as he noticed, noted which will prove to be the source of some outbreaks and things we are going to have to follow and the coming months. border issues are back on the menu in terms of things we will talk about on a regular basis. >> you have large groups of people, gillian, and there is no way of knowing what kind of health care testing they have in

their home country. if covid and the spread is the big issue, why isn't there more being done to make sure that these people are processed, not only of identity, but health? >> some of it is murky right now. we know asylum-seekers are being screened for covid with or without sentiment from the u.n. they will be under the biden plan. a quick note about something the administration is getting right, international travel coming into the united states, people don't know this, but under the trump policy, anybody can travel and most of them are not getting covid tested before they came across the united states and came into our borders through airports. that's been reversed. i think they deserve a kudos for that. >> i got a covid test at the airport yesterday. it was very easy. there are more facilities

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>> welcome back. during the craziness of president trump's impeachment trial, senator cruz tweeted out these questions that his colleagues wanted to ask of house managers but never got the chance. such as "can we build the keystone pipeline if we add hunter biden to the board?" and a reference to the suspected chinese spy. so, what questions would our "outnumbered" panel have asked? dagen, i come to you first. >> dagen: you are asking me

now? let me sell that if, just real quick. how about just why aren't the school is open? how many of the families have they reached out to two people who died last summer in the rioting? how many of the businesses have they spoken to? well, there was violence in major cities across the country. >> emily: also, i was sincerely being sarcastic. one of the most kind people. one of the kindest people, really. i was obviously joking. >> dagen: yes, i know that. >> gillian: since it is an opportunity to speak with the senators, i would ask when senator is going to do their jobs vis-a-vis big tax and regulate some of the big platforms they have been threatening to regulate. will they ever hold a hearing and pass legislation? >> emily: kennedy, your

brilliant questions? >> kennedy: i like this question. it is sort of an addendum to the ted cruz question. have any of the house managers have sexual relations with the chinese communist spy? please explain. >> emily: makes it sound official. then, take us home. >> ben: you know, this past week, i debated, so when i much to him because this was impressive that he actually asked a very serious question of neil gorsuch during the hearing. "would you rather fight one horse-sized dock or 100 duck-sized horses? and i would love to hear everyone. >> emily: these are all brilliant. thank you so much to everyone on the couch. we appreciate you all. have a great rest of your day.

now, here is "america reports." >> sandra: this is a fox news alert. more than 150 million americans under winter weather advisories across the country, and thus, live look and indianapolis at this hour facing near whiteout conditions. you have seen where they had to wipe off the camera there. frigid temperatures, dangerous wind chills. does record low temperatures are happening in many u.s. regions. 2 million people are now without power in the state of texas alone. dangerous driving conditions in oklahoma, causing a fiery pile of there, and now the storm is expected to move towards ohio tomorrow. we are watching that for you. meanwhile, this is another alert. democratic governors facing growing backlash over their handling of the kronos virus pandemic. hello, everyone. i am sandra smith. hi, john. >> john: good to see you. i'm john roberts. welcome to another edition of "america reports" as we kick o