>> neil: that's all i wanted to. why don't you go back to your podcast. [laughter] enjoy talking over each other. we saved some time there good job as always. common discussion of something that will be hot and heavy rain. here comes "the five." >> juan: i'm juan williams along with jesse watters, dana perino, greg gutfeld, and katie pavlik. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ the fallout from the nursing home scandal getting very serious for new york governor andrew cuomo. the fbi and u.s. attorney's office in brooklyn reportedly investigating him and the senior members of his coronavirus -- it to their claims that he covered

up covid deaths and nursing home facilities. he claims he has done nothing wrong, but is facing bipartisan backlash. one state democrat, assemblyman ron mckim, says the governor bullied him and threatened to "destroy him." >> when you get closer to the truth of the scandal, governor cuomo tries to implicate you in the cover-up, or threatens her livelihood if you don't lie for him. that's what happened to me. for 10 minutes, he berated me, yelled at me, told me in my would be over. i had tonight, not tomorrow, tonight to issue a new statement, essentially asking me to lie. >> juan: new york city mayor bill de blasio, he's backing up the idea that formal is a bully. >> that's classic andrew cuomo.

a lot of people in new york state have received those phone calls. the bullying is nothing new. i believe ron kim, and it's very sad. >> juan: jesse, yesterday we were talking about what is the crime that he did. i don't think there's any question he made grievous mistakes, but is that the case that somebody might just say "boy, those democrats in new york -- de blasio, now kim -- are feuding with a powerful governor who may be seeking a fourth term?" >> jesse: there is a feud, but cuomo started it. let's paint the picture, juan. this guy kim, democrat, his uncle died in a nursing home that governor cuomo infected. he's giving his children a bath in his apartment in queens, sleeves rolled up, he had the johnson & johnson no tears baby shampoo, he gets a phone call. it's the governor screaming so loudly that his wife can hear,

and now she's in tears because the governor's demanding he live, threatens to destroy his career, says "your in a feel my wrath, don't cross me." what else the government can do? a skill because uncle, his wife is in tears. cuomo is not stopping there. he's calling three other state democrat lawmakers, threatening to destroy their careers for national emergency powers. one donald trump calls you out, he did it in public and owned it. [laughter] governor cuomo does it in the dark and then tries to deny it. this is about mario cuomo, his father, and his legacy. he was elected three terms as governor in new york, and his son, he wants a fourth term, but he can see that fourth term fading. you now have federal investigations, bipartisan outrage, public humiliation. he's acting like a caricature of a tammany hall gangster politician, but he's coming off more like a bully that got

punched in the face and now his nose is bleeding, and he's whining about it and it doesn't look invincible. >> juan: that's a good point. >> jesse: it's so bad that zucker at cnn won't let chris, his brother, go near him, conveniently. the governor's brand is too toxic all of a sudden. it's getting rough. >> juan: i'm gonna ask greg about that later, but dana, let me ask you about the scandal reaching washington. now, there's a letter from 9 republican senators asking the senate judiciary committee to have mark garland, the nominee for attorney general, commit that he will investigate andrew cuomo. i'm wondering if that's a little bit of overreach by the republicans. shouldn't an investigation be done privately and without political pressure question marks before it's easy for mayor garland to answer the

question, which is "look like the doj and attorneys offices investigating." -- >> dana: if i were mayor garland i would say "no reason to stop that," move on, and get confirmed. i don't think andrew cuomo ever thought he would be grateful to be under ted cruz except for today. [laughter] for political news, ted cruz is getting attention today for something else we will talk about in a bit. when you are taking incoming fire from your own side to this great extent, there's no place to hide, no safe port in the storm. if there's only one way to let some air out of this political balloon. he either has to say something like "let me fess up, here's what happened," or -- more likely -- even if democrats are going after him because they are looking for him to topple so they can move up -- mike has

been governor for three terms, he wants a fourth, that's not going to happen. if he wants to alleviate the situation, he might come out and say he's not running again. >> juan: that's interesting. katie, that point, we have a new poll from an new york state poster. they find that even after the scandal broke, cuomo's approval rating among new yorkers is unchanged. it said 39% approve of how he made the data public, but 60% approve of his handling of the pandemic. what do you make of it?" >> katie: we've been talking about the nursing home scandal for an nearly eight year now for nearly a year now. we are just at the beginning of the consequences of what he's looking at. we haven't seen subpoenas yet

firm washington, d.c., or from the local legislature, but we do have an fbi investigation. i think it's going to be interesting to watch his staff and how they react when they have to lawyer up, and they can no longer call people and scream at them on the phone, because they are under perjury rules and have the potential of going to prison if they lie under oath to investigators. while i think this is just the beginning, i think the more people learn about it, i think his approval rating will go down. before andrew cuomo was saying "this is republicans attacking me, because i'm running for governor again," there were many people killed in nursing homes as a result of government decisions. everyone is asking questions. it's not a political issue anymore. it's a matter of accountability, finding out what happened after andrew cuomo refused to release the data.

>> juan: greg, jesse was talking about the situation at cnn. chris cuomo, the governor's brother, now told to stay away from the story. i think we both agree there is an element of entertainment in cable news coverage, the sibling rivalry, the giant q-tip. as a matter of seriousness, now there is real news and a real scandal. isn't it appropriate to say that a brother can't cover a brother? >> greg: as jesse said, how convenient. they had no issues with bro covering bro when it was an adorable, media darling shtick when they played abbott and costello, or when they have a block where they talked about whether the governor was single and ready to mingle. it turns out he was. he mingled covid patients with a rest home tenants and killed

them! let's face it. they should have done this sooner. that's the question. imagine this: if cnn had made the call sooner and banned the bro's, and -- there would be no dating tips. perhaps the governor would've acted faster under pressure from capper to reverse the policies and save lives. we have to ask, how culpable is cnn in this? perhaps the major cable carriers who bring cnn into your homes should reflect on whether that's a safe decision to make. i would definitely want to revisit that. in lieu of the bro scandal, i suggest cuomo could cover another scandal. "the new york post" was reporting that seen in the paid $30,000 to a blm anti-trump writer who egged on the siege at the capital.

they put a guy who encouraged the siege on tv and let him, the rioters, shape the narrative. they paid him and didn't question his involvement until later. maybe now that chris cuomo has free time and doesn't have to follow his brother around, he could cover that story. wouldn't that be great? >> juan: all right. coming up, the political blame game is heating up, while texans suffer in the freezing cold. what aoc and other democrats are saying now, next, for you on "the five." ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> jesse: the blame game in full swing, while texas is still reeling from a massive winter storm. thousands of people there are

going on 4 days without power and heat. instead of working on a solution, far left democrats smell an opportunity to defend the green new deal. even though frozen wind turbines helped cause the problem. aoc says adopting the green new deal would have prevented the blackouts in texas, and beto o'rourke and members of the liberal media are attacking -- the lone star state. >> in texas, you have an example of a state governed by those who do not believe in government. >> the governor is making this dangerous and deadly outage about politics. >> why weren't you ready? let's say if you are about the wind turbine -- and you are not -- >> should you have been ready? >> jesse: ted cruz is taking major heat from everybody over a trip to cancun mexico. the senator's on his way back,

the state called him out -- everywhere has been going up ted cruz. i looked at my phone. every time i picked it up, i see ted in some manner of travel from one airport, another airport, mask on, in a plan. a lot of rapport. upward. >> greg: here's my advice for any government official. ticket. you should always assume you're going to cancel your vacation if your constituents suffer. if they are going through something, you have to cancel it, do it some other time, or pole what i call the "jesse watters maneuver." you marry your vacation to a charity event. you are in cancun, but that's where the orphanage is. i've walked by jesse's pod to touch he doesn't have an office -- and heat has a search

up for "charities on islands." it's disgusting. >> jesse: [laughs] i used to do that on "the factor." i would say "bill, there's a big story in panama beach. i need to investigate that immediately." you brought this up earlier, the cuomo news. this is day one and stuff if you are a politician. >> dana: he said he was taking his daughters, because they were going on a trip. they probably don't get a lot of time together, and this is a one plan, and we need to go. he's back there, it's obviously not agree just as opposed to andrew cuomo's accused of doing. anybody look at that bookshelf and think "nah, no way?"

[laughter] >> pole that up. >> dana: beto o'rourke is running one more time in texas. honestly. look at that. anybody buying that? come on. [laughter] that's an impressive library indeed. he's going to get a lot of campaign contributions from the left. he will fall short again. the energy issue, there's a lot of culpability that can go around. one of the big things is failure to plan, failure to invest, to weatherize. it's not fun to do the maintenance around the house when you rather out of deck, but the maintenance is what is critical to keep the roof over your head.

i have many friends in texas who have resources and means, but they are suffering. imagine what people who don't have means are going through. we haven't heard the end of this. i could ask everyone to pray for these ranchers that are trying to care for the livestock. this is the time of year when calves are born. it's hard for them, especially if they can't get water because it's frozen over. >> jesse: dana perino with the rancher's perspective. [laughter] i like about him katie i like that on "the five." >> juan: when i was introduced to this story, there was governor abbott putting the blame on the wind turbines and green new deal. now, it turns out as we come into this story, the facts are that this isn't about wind turbines. this is about the fact that they

were not prepared to deal with this cold snap -- that's what they're saying, they got all jammed up. to me, it's boomerangs on avid, and on people who did not invest in the idea of the great at being a part of the whole united states, instead of isolated. they can't get any support from neighboring states, because they designed it that way. they are on an island. they can't get help. they are on an island. ted cruz is down there sipping pinnacle audits. they are often wonderland. i'm sure you guys would point out if this was democratic leaders, so let me say, all of these -- our republican leaders who failed their states. >> jesse: wind turbines froze a week ago, and the coal and gas had to provide the backup. when i got to be 20 degrees,

that surge knocked them off. >> juan: jesse, coal, gas is the clear majority of the energy provided. i think -- wind. >> jesse: 40% as wind, and it got down to 10. they can't spend the wind turbines and produce any surge. those only spend it consistently. when there's a demand issue, you can't juice up a wind turbine, but you cannot juice up coal and electric. they didn't fail because of -- they failed because of the surge. >> katie: the issue is not that coal and gas don't work. the equipment was not winterized properly in a state that hasn't seen temperatures like this since 1918. the government is not putting in wind turbine generators to get hospitals up and running. they are shipping and diesel

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border security. republicans are wearing it will create a surge of legal immigration and lead to "blanket amnesty." i caravan is on the move in central america. a group of migrants has made its way to mexico. i noticed this morning that there is a conservative coalition that has come together. they are launching a combined $2 million ad campaign like they had done before for conservative judges they were supporting. they were adding some biden's nominees. one of them has been a champion for -- immigration. he is up for hhs secretary. the politics of this are going to get difficult for the biden administration. >> katie: on so many levels -- there's the pandemic issue,

unemployment, people trying to get back feet. the issue of getting more border security shows that the democrats and the biden white house aren't interested in working with republicans on this. they have this amnesty have talked about that they want. it's more like 20 million people. the reasons republicans say there has to be a security component of this is because if you don't do that, you create a magnet. we are already seeing border patrol agents saying they are seeing a doubling of unaccompanied minors under the age of 13 within the past past couple of weeks. they are creating a crisis on a number of different levels. >> dana: jesse, one of the things they did is "please don't rush the border," but they ended the "remain in mexico" policy.

it's like saying "we are not going to check ids at disneyland and admission is free, but please don't take advantage of it." >> jesse: it's soaked refreshing. this bill is designed to fail. there is no way it clears. they did that on purpose. they're going to say republicans are blocking immigration, and they can campaign on it. it's the same thing all politicians do. they don't solve the problem, they just blame the other party. even the politico came out and said this is terrible politics and policy. they said this thing is a recipe for disaster, and it's littered democrats saying blanket amnesty, open borders? we are going to lose our seats! politico says you are seeing migrants come into these border towns, and they are overwhelming the health care system and small businesses.

the panama government, they have opened their border, and migrants are flowing out of the colombian jungle through central america. the central american governments are saying "come on through" as a shakedown, so joe sends them more foreign aid, which they pocket. i want to address this 11 million number. i've been a fox since 2003. i used to be a producer before they put makeup on me. we used to do research packets. how many illegals in this country. in 2003, it was 11 million. you're saying nearly 20 years later, the number is still 11 million? no, no, no no no. it's at least 20 million. everybody knows it. >> dana: sometimes the white house decides to let congress write the legislation so they can hand off the approach. are they heading right into a political --

>> juan: i don't see that this is going to pass as a comprehensive bill. basically, it is like that bipartisan bill in 2013. he got 68 votes in the senate. there were 14 republicans who backed the bill. we are seeing now is, clearly, this issue has to be seen through the lens of the last four years of donald trump. i think republicans have become more aggressive, less open to immigration, and democrats have been saying "what about this hostility to immigrants which marks we want to make sure we are standing up for immigrants," and to get into silly arguments. you call them a legal? that's all show. it doesn't solve the problem. biden's best chance is to do things in pieces, to go about

the dreamers, look at e-verify, look at border security, and then the toughest nugget is going to be dealing with the people who are already here have been here. >> dana: i don't know if that's accurate, in terms of the politics, if it's something of a republican/democrat issue. one of the reason's president trump, or hispanic and latino votes in 2020 van 2016 was the focus on the economy and you've seen wages go up, for a lot of reasons, including this one. >> greg: you answered your question. [laughter] was a line trump had: he was pro-american worker. makes them seem harsh to the immigrant, but he's got to make a choice. in the front end of your question, who talked about the politics of both. that's the problem. the reason we keep getting into these dead ends is because we

look at immigration as a political variable, when it's an economic variable, i.e. the american worker. that's an economic variable. you would moderate the flow of the immigrants based on the changing circumstances of your economy! now, we have millions of unemployed american workers. we have lives that have been destroyed by pandemic. we have an education system that is a mess. our health care system is stressed. there's a point when you look at the switches for immigration, that you would turn it back and wait. with a country at a time of great growth, and the economy is exploding, the population is healthy, there's a surplus of jobs, you can toggle backup for immigrants. i think we went into a problem, when it's always politics, but if you switch it to economics, and -- people might say that's

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>> katie: the violent crime surge in liberal cities isn't so bad that people are turning to insane ideas like this. an activist in baltimore thinks the city should pay killers not to kill. >> i can relate to the shooters. guess what they want? the money. i can't stop the shooting. no one in this world can, but what we can do is put them in compliance. >> katie: [laughs] greg, what else should we get paid not to do? >> greg: i can think of six things i'm doing tonight. [laughter] i like this idea, but i don't trust the killers to keep up their end of the bargain. at some point, you're going to ask for more money that i don't have. it's interesting. it reminds me of the ideology behind the hard left over the summer. they were talking about the riots, the lieutenant. there was a lot on twitter

saying that looting and destruction is a form of protest, when all protests go unheeded. painkiller not to kill is the same as "give us what we want or the city burns." paying a killer not to kill her is the same as "give us what we want or the city burns." it's the same as blackmail. "it amy or you will be hurt." i heard that all summer, "saluting is part of the deal." i heard that all summer, "looting is part of the deal." >> katie: democrats in these cities think "why not?" >> jesse: why stop at shooters? let's pay thieves not to steal. how about they -- we are going to go about the honor system?

[laughter] doesn't work and boarding schools. you think the honor system is going to work in baltimore? i think that he pitch this idea because it is an idea none of the other dumb politicians in baltimore have proposed anything. they have watched their once proud rising industrial port city decay into a criminal carcass over the last 40 or so years. better than nothing. >> katie: dana. >> dana: did any of you watch "the wire?" season three, the police have this innovative idea: they are going to let the drug dealers deal drugs and do drugs in a certain area of town, and they will look away, which ended up falling apart. it incentivized people to deal more drugs and tumor drugs. it speaks to the need for more

education, more economic opportunity, not necessarily more government involvement. >> juan: i live 40 miles away. i had never heard of this. the city council is not taking this seriously, but it does raise an interesting point about the connection between poverty and crime. it may be a strategic appeal for a universal basic income, that kind of thing saying "people get desperate, crime increases, they do horrible things." to me, it's nonsense. i wouldn't agree to it. i think it encourages bad behavior. he couldn't have people not to attack the capitol on january 6. you couldn't pay people not to kidnap the governor of michigan. >> katie: "the fastest seven" up next. ♪ ♪

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being accused of cultural appropriation for launching a particular company. some in social media are upset, and apparently they forget about other celebs like george clooney -- good friend of mine -- who have done the same thing. i will pontificate briefly. the problem with these critics is that they are losers. they don't realize that you cannot achieve success in life without providing some sort of value to society. they think that lashing out somehow providing value. they will never have a positive impact on this world. this woman is awesome! 's making millions and millions of dollars out of opportunity, determination, and ideas. these critics probably couldn't hire an over alone.

>> dana: to me, this story is so dominant. you have people on yahoo! news citing social media users with 62 followers saying that people are mad. come on! >> greg: we piggybacked on that story, because it's fun. we get these amazing pictures of kendall jenner and go "isn't this an average?" [laughter] >> katie: here's the thing. these people complaining are miserable. i don't understand the left when they say they want you to be diverse, but when you enjoy different parts of different cultures, you are culturally appropriating. i'm sure i will get written up about the way i'm describing this, but we should be able to enjoy things that happen to be outside of our culture without getting accused of some kind of -- for joy that something

you're not into. it's stupid. >> greg: there is this assumption that if you don't do this, someone else of the right culture will, but you don't know that, and we are supposed all share in our different backgrounds. one, isn't the hangover from tequila enough punishment from to for culture appropriation [laughter] >> juan: i like tequila. it doesn't affect me that way. i get a clear head in the morning. i agree with you. i think america is a great melting pot, and your nationality, your culture -- if you make it in mexico, it's tequila. >> greg: jesse, isn't the bottom line here, she makes everybody jealous? she is wealthier than you will ever become a jesse, any your lifetime. she is 20. she is 1,000 times richer than you. >> dana: 21.

>> greg: and she's 21. >> dana: she cannot drink from tequila legally. >> jesse: you haven't seen my stock portfolio, got fouled. i bought bitcoin at $10. [laughter] i'm catching up pretty quick. to the critics say you have to be italian to own a pizzeria. you do if you want the best pizza. [laughter] you don't have to be italian to own a pizzeria. i bet some local mexicans sold the distillery to kendall jenner. if you're mad at anybody, get mad at the mexicans for selling to a white woman in america. >> greg: i hope somebody pulled out of context, jesse sang "get mad at the mexicans." >> they will. >> greg: "one more thing" is up next. ♪ ♪ some say this is my greatest challenge ever.

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>> time now for one more thing. we'll start with a local rancher, dana perino. >> you know, the storm blanketed the country but the mail system is still working. i got my mail. hard copy. everything will be okay. comes out march 9. you can pre-order that at barnes & noble, amazon, anywhere you get your books. you can find out more at tobin center.org. kilmeade will interview me in jacksonville. kilmeade. [laughter] >> good luck, dana. >> thanks. >> greg, you're up. >> you should have called your

book "the jolly rancher." that's the next book. all right. let's do this. greg's ten pounds. best news. i'm going to show you the video and ask you to place your bets on this man. here he goes. all right. so the bet is will he make it over the stream for ten pounds, katie. will >> no. >> no. >> juan, will he or won't he? >> he won't. >> will he, dana? >> he does haven't enough height. jesse? >> he's white so that's a hard no for me. >> racist. racist. all right. let's see what happens. listen to the mother of the -- the mother's laugh, >> oh! >> yeah. >> close. >> yeah. >> so i guess -- i don't know

pays you. fox news has to pay all of you ten times each. >> okay, great. perfect. >> go to the nice lady in h.r., the one that does your time stuff. >> katie -- >> i'll call her tomorrow. >> all right. personnel. >> what do you do when it's unbearably cold outside? this polar bear is named blizzard. he lives in the tacoma, zoo. he's having a ball, putting his face in the snow. it's snowing here. that is not what i would be doing. good for him. >> cute boy. >> feeling at home. >> very cute. >> i like that. all right. i'm going to go now -- so you guys have heard of the great wall. what about the great wall of thanks. take a look at this thank you

wall at the javits convention center. after her second shot, a lady that calls herself mary midtown on twitter said she wants to respect kindness and professionalism to everyone. the wall of thanks got started with one note. the javits center has passed 50,000 shots. when a blessing to the big apple. jesse, you're up. >> sometimes i feel like this on the show, juan. ever heard of the phrase of skating on thin ice? some guys from amsterdam knows this. he watches the movie "white men can't jump." he's in the frozen river and has to get rescued. happens to all of us. >> wow. caught the edge. >> he had a man bun, i believe. >> yeah. >> he deserved it.

>> looks like he was skinny dipping there. wow. thanks, jesse. that was scary. that's it for us, folks. "special report" is up next. hey, bret baier. >> bret: never go with a man bun. thanks, juan. millions remain without power and the death count rises as brutal winter weather maintains its grip on much of the nation. federal investigators look at andrew cuomo amid cover-ups in nursing homes. and is the cancel culture coming after you? the growing power of internet mobs. this is "special report." >> good evening. i'm bret baier. the death toll is climbing as americans shiver from the coldest weather of the season. a problem compounded by a lack of power and water in the south. 36 deaths are being attributed to the situation. texas is