from people saying they are not exactly sure how to get all of this, how to sign up for fox nation. we promise to explain all of that before this launches. we will be back every weeknight on the show. the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. and a friend of sean hannity's, who joins us right now. >> sean: all right, tucker, thank you, and welcome to "hannity." we begin tonight with a fox news alert. legendary golfer tiger woods is now in a southern california hospital after sustaining serious injuries in what was a gruesome, single car accident earlier today. our thoughts, our prayers are with tiger woods, his family, his kids, and in just a moment,e going to get my full monologue but for us joining us with the very latest is our very own trace gallagher. trace, what is the latest? >> sean: sean, tiger woods left his hotel saturday earlier this morning, driving north on hawthorne boulevard coming down through palos verdes, it was fairly steep and includes a

sweeping left-hand turn and thee bending pending right. listen to the l.a. sheriff on tigers speed. >> crossed the center divider to the point that it was several hundred feet away. obviously, had a relatively come a greater speed than normal. however, because it is downhill, it slopes, and also curves. that area has a high frequency of accidents. it's not uncommon. >> firefighters say when they found him roughly 6 minutes later, they used tools to pry him from the vehicle. he was conscious and talking, and there were no signs of impairment. tiger was then taken to ucla harvard trauma center, where he underwent surgery to repair what is reportedly two leg fractures, one a compound fracture, and a shattered ankle. woods was wearing his seat belt at the time of the crash and initially did not seem concerned about his leg injuries, but he was likely in shock, say officials. all in all, the sheriff says

tiger woods is very lucky to be alive. sean. >> sean: trace gallagher, thank you. coming up, much more on what happened with tiger woods. earlier today, golf pro john daly, a sportscaster jim will join us. first, disturbing news starting joe biden. after inexplicably canceling public events the last few weeks, joe is now struggling to, well, even form sentences and speak, at times, in what is a coherent way. earlier, he attempted to use a cheat sheet to deliver some extemporaneous remarks. it didn't exactly go well. take a look. >> i promise you, we are going to together beat this, and i think that -- i, you know -- but the idea, over 500 -- i think it is -- i carry a card with me every day. the total number of folks who have been affected by the...

as of yesterday, there are 500,071 people who have died from this. >> sean: oh, and the media likes to attack me for saying "yeah, he looks weak, frail, and seems to be struggling cognitively." what is on the note card, joe? your name, your address, contact information, name of your wife, what your address is, 1600 pennsylvania avenue, if you get lost, a reminder not to mention the corrupt family business. in all honesty, this is now getting scary. he is supposed to be our commander in chief. and this is probably the toughest, and single most demanding job in the world. that is why you can't have a media mob, big tech, candidate protection program, and run a campaign hiding in your basement bunker. and joe seemingly can barely

form a sentence in between naps. and meanwhile, there is a serious developing situation right at our southern border. after biden vowed to allow more refugees into the u.s. and halted all border wall construction, illegal crossings are now way up. not a surprise. this includes kids under the age of 18. that is forcing the biden administration to open an emergency facility for kids, or is the media mob used to call it, under donald trump, kids in cages. this time, they are actually tiny trailers that look like shipping containers with bars on the windows, but "washington post," medium outlive all things radical socialist, they are politely referring to this as a migrant facility for children. oh, with bars on the windows. we will talk about the hypocrisy coming up. but first, let's take a step back and let's review how we got there. we start, the years 2014, and

that is when then president obama encountered a massive wave of migrant caravans filled with unaccompanied minors in order to process and how is these migrants, the obama administration acquired a warehouse, and they used, you got it, a chain-link fence to divide children from adults. in the following years, the trump administration, they continued to use the obama facility for unaccompanied minors and other migrant children whose parents were being prosecuted for crimes and did the same thing obama did. this was a temporary holding facility where children were how is for less than a week. but in 2018, the mob, the media, they became hysterical after they unearthed photos circulating, showing kids behind a chain-link fence. well, as it turned out, many of those photos are actually from the obama era. but the truth, it doesn't seem to matter to the media mob, to democrats, to big tech companies. they only seem to care about

smearing, slandering, besmirching, attacking donald trump every second, minute, hour of every day. so, they accused him of putting kids in cages. "washington post" wrote that the chain-link fence was a symbol of mistreatment. kamala harris herself called it immoral and wrong and unnecessary. joe biden said it was one of the darkest moments in our history. well, he did it. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez visited one of the facilities at the border and dramatically wept in front of a photographer while clinging to a chain-link fence. in a matter of weeks, president trump and did child separation policy, ultimately closed the south texas facility for renovations. now, thanks to the obama administration, a brand-new beautiful holding facility for kids with bars on the windows is back. it's open for business. now, these tiny things that look like shipping containers, are

now housing underage migrants. we just can't see them. "the washington post" is praising the facilities and highlighting all the wonderful amenities, including "colorful trailer at the entryway, where flowers and butterflies and handmade posters hanging on its walls." tonight, to her credit, congresswoman ocasio-cortez, at least she is a democrat that is being consistent, and she is blasting the biden administration. press secretary jen psaki wants you to know that these are definitely not cages like the last time. they are delightful trailers that look like shipping containers with bars on the windows and butterflies and sunshine and cotton candy on the walls. take a look. >> it's the same facility that was open in the trump administration. under term, there have been horrifying things at the border and kids in cages.

kamala harris said the cages are a human rights abuse committed by the united states government. how is this different? >> secretary psaki: we feel that way. this is not kids being kept in cages. this is a facility that was open that is going to follow the same standards as other hhs facilities. it is certainly not -- i was never our intention of replicating the policies of the past administration. >> sean: let me make a prediction. jen psaki, she is going to circle back on this one since the situation at the southern border is only going to get dramatically worse. that, you can take to the bank. biden's open border policies are a green light for migrants, and in the coming weeks and months, mark my words, there will be another huge, massive uptick in illegal immigration. now this is especially true given that biden's pick for attorney general, merrick

garland, isn't even sure that illegal immigration is illegal. he wants to be attorney general. illegal immigration, he's not sure is a legal. okay. take a look. >> do you believe illegal entry at america's borders should remain a crime? >> well, i haven't thought about that question, i just haven't thought about that question. i think, you know, the president has made clear that we are a country with borders and with a concern about national security. i don't know of a proposal to decriminalize but still make it unlawful to enter. i just don't know the answer to that question. i haven't thought about it. >> sean: let me guess, he will circle back, also. by the way, when i went to men one of my many trips to the border, 14 or 15 of them, i stepped over the side, and was accused of illegal entry into

the country, one step over. can you believe obama, the media, try to sell that guy is the next moderate supreme court u.s. justice? he is going to circle back. make no mistake, there is a looming crisis at our southern border. deal biden administration is only going to make it worse. here with reaction from fox news contributor dan bongino, fox news correspondent at large geraldo rivera. geraldo, i see you smiling, but the reality is kids in cages, that started with joe and obama. not with donald trump. when joe and obama do it, you get one reaction from your liberal friends in the media. when donald trump continues the policy, its doom and gloom and disaster and republicans hate children and want them to die. now we've got trailers, oh, with cotton candy, some trying, rainbows, bars on the windows. any different? >> i think you hit the nail on the head. i remind everyone that i

strongly supported donald trump's reelection and faxed him until about the 10th of november, a week after the election. merrick garland is a superb federal judge and i think you will be an excellent attorney general. you are absolutely right about the medias hypocrisy in this issue. i said, you know, during the election, the joe biden, it is so easy to criticize immigration policy until you are in charge of it. now what do you do? you mentioned these caravans and other migrants crossing the border, many of them have unaccompanied minors. there are no parents. so what are you going to do with these little children? you know, obama tried, and then he got burned by the bad publicity. trump tried, the same kind of facilities, to segregate them from the adults and save them from predator, you know, immigrants who have come with them, coyotes and so forth. didn't work for president trump, either. and now president biden is

confronted with the reality of his responsibility of what the hell he is supposed to do with these kids. my suggestion is -- >> sean: hey, geraldo. >> give me 15 seconds. >> sean: you got it. >> 15 seconds. put these kids in foster homes, foster families in the country. let ma and pa foster families, don't put them in a julie -- juvenile detention kind of center that only rotten things can happen. they are a reality. what are you going to do? there are 6,000 of them at last count alone. i say put them in foster family homes. don't put them in these prisons, sean. >> sean: you know, dan bongino, the stay in mexico policy, that is gone. now with the incentive and the amnesty hanging out there, we are going to see illegal immigration on a mass scale return to this country. they are going to stop building the wall, they won't even fill the holes that need to be filled

in the wall, and the reality is, we can compassionately, lovingly, ensure the safe passage of people back to their homes where they came from. >> you know, you're right, sean, and you just described perfectly why it is -- incentives we are providing is creating the problem. when you do things like amnesty-type programs, you provide a portfolio of benefits available nowhere else in the world, to people who basically flip off our laws and come here illegally, it shouldn't be a shocker to any sane person that you are going to get more people coming here illegally. my beef with geraldo's approach, and i'm not saying he is a liberal, but other liberals i debate on immigration, if -- >> sean: [laughs] whoa, whoa, whoa, can i interrupt you? he certainly -- >> i don't want him to start yelling just yet, so i want to get through this point.

>> middle-of-the-road, roadkill. >> sean: dan. >> we will see, not on immigration. start the story in the middle. geraldo says, oh, my gosh, what are we going to do about all of these kids coming here? well, it is a 12 chapter book and notice how we start the chapter six and ignores the forward and chapter one through five. why are these kids coming here in the first place? because of people like geraldo who continuously argue for lax enforcement and other things which provides incentives for more people to come here. i've got news for you. if you just stop advocating for week immigration policy, people who want to come to the united states would come here illegally. this is not a pump located problem to figure out. you are the problem, you are not the solution when you ask what are we going to do? the answer is something. something. stop starting the story in the middle. >> i disagree completely. everybody in central america wants to live in the united states. most of the people in mexico want to live in the united states.

most of the people in the world want to live in the united states. we have to deal with this relentless flow of needy people. take the southern border as an example. here you have the cities of dallas and houston and el paso and tucson and albuquerque, and jobs, and potential wealth for these people. on the other end, go a hundred miles south, and they can't find enough to eat. there is desperate poverty. what are you going to do? here, you are a dad, you have three kids. 100 miles away, you know you can get a job to feed these kids, maybe give them a different life. >> sean: geraldo -- >> if you are a dad, what are you going to do? i know you have a good heart. >> sean: i will even argue that if i was in that situation and i saw a job and an opportunity and a better life for my family, i might even do what they do. in other words, illegally. i can see your point. here's the thing.

if you want to come here, i don't care where you come from. you can be part of our american family. true, you don't have radical ties, prove you don't have some type of illness -- show us that you can take care of yourself and you will not be dependent on the american people. go through the process, respect our laws, our borders, and our sovereignty. if you do those things, welcome to our american family. you know, i don't care where you come from. >> sean, the argument -- >> yeah? >> here is the trick geraldo just says no my plate. he says a lot of people want to come to the united states. okay, great, a lot of people want to go to new zealand from too. it has nothing to do to the fact that the united states has an unusual number of people in the country illegally. why? because we set up -- you ignored my question completely. we set up a series of incentives

that allow people to break the law, come here, and face no punishment at all. that has nothing to do with the fact we are a wealthy country and people want to live here. people want to live in a lot of wealthy countries. why do we uniquely have a very bad illegal immigration problem? the answer is because we reward illegal immigration. this is not complicated. figure it out, man! >> you know what is different, dan? what is different as we are a nation built by immigrants. every one of us. you and sean -- >> legal immigrants. >> all all came from abroad, all came from somewhere else. i am 10% native american. i've a bigger claim to the united states than most people. >> sean: hey, geraldo, one other point, though. we are a nation of laws, geraldo. respect our laws. respect our borders. respect our sovereignty. follow the process. >> geraldo, what you just said is not an argument. it is a nice emotional appeal, but again, you do this all the time, you use emotion and you try to make it a policy.

we are a nation of immigrants is not an argument, it is just some assertion you made, and one, we are a nation -- >> we have 11 million, we have 11 million undocumented in this country right now. you never hear about them. why is that? because they are hardworking -- >> because we have 30 million people -- 330 million americans are working really hard. what about them? have you thought about them, or is it just illegal immigrants? >> when you show me -- >> do they matter? >> lost a job because of an immigrant -- >> you should answer. what about the 330 million americans in the country legally, do they matter? a simple yes or no will suffice. do they matter? >> the absolutely matter -- >> okay, good. >> you are on shaky grounds there, because i love -- >> no, no -- >> i love this country, and i think -- >> no, you are doing that.

>> sean: geraldo, let me make another point. we have how many millions of americans out of work? now, with the stroke of a pen, we have joe biden wiping out high-paying, career, union jobs within the energy sector, so those are displaced workers -- >> which i oppose. >> sean: now you're going to legalize 11 million, tell everybody "come here, wink-wink, nod nod, we are not going to enforce the law," so what is not going to do to americans that need work? is going to make the field more competitive and drive wages down. that doesn't help. we, the america people. >> why is it, as we spoke last week, that these -- that millions of undocumented immigrants were deemed essential workers in the united states during the worst of the pandemic, because they were the ones -- >> sean: geraldo! millions of americans won't get jobs. >> they were cleaning the

toilets. they were doing the crap jobs. >> notice how geraldo does not mention my neighbors kids working in the public's, they are in the country legally, geraldo. do they matter, or just -- >> cheap shot. >> no, it's not a cheap shot, it is just a fact. >> sean: thank you both. i appreciate it. when we come back, democratic apart a sample displayed again. after spending years saying "walls don't work," guess what? they have no problems with pelosi's wall that now surrounds all capital. i guess they think walls work now. sara carter has a full report. newt gingrich will react. straight ahead. ♪ ♪ we were alone when my husband had the heart attack. he's the most important thing in my life. i'm so lucky to get him back. your heart isn't just yours.

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♪ ♪ >> sean: now the hypocrisy, double standards on the democrats is on full display tonight. walls continue to surround the capital with razor wire on top, despite no known active or ongoing security threat against the building or elected officials. remember, it was democrats, they were the ones who lectured america for years that walls don't work, and that they shouldn't be built to secure the southern border. to remind you. >> we can secure our border without an ineffective, expensive wall.

>> and i demand that the president end his temper tantrums. and quest for a racist and xenophobic wall. >> a wall is in immorality. it's not who we are as a nation. >> on the subject, let's be perfectly clear. the president's medieval vanity project is not going to stop that. >> sean: a wall -- what about a fence with razor wire, is that immorality? fox news contributor sara carter. sara, a little different, i seer shoulder, investigative reporting. what did you find today? >> well, hey, sean. i found one wall, this three and half mile wall surrounding the capitol building at nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, and ilhan omar all agree on, and why?

because it is protecting them, apparently, from us. i spoke to some folks today on capitol hill, and here's what they had to say. look at this wall. just want to ask a question, and i see the lawmakers, you know, this is a wall to protect the lawmakers in capitol hill. >> it's not for protect -- it's to scare people. it so dangerous. there is no danger here. >> we don't know yet. but yet, they don't want to put it up along the southern border. is that a weird juxtaposition, do you think? or do you think one doesn't have anything to do with the other? >> to me, that doesn't make sense. if a fence is important here, why isn't it important on our borders? >> so many democrats say, well, they are worried about trump, worried about people who supports before, yet they believe in a fence for the capital, but they don't believe in a fence for the southern

border. is that odd? >> exactly! exactly, it doesn't any sense. >> i would feel, honestly, that there is not much of a need to secure either of them. i think, like we just said, the united states, especially after what happened on january 6th, has done a great job of rebuilding and coming back together, so i think we both feel pretty safe since we've been here. >> i think, sean, that everybody, no matter what side they are on, whether democrat or republican, here in washington, d.c., they are tired of the wall. there was not one person i spoke to to today that did not want te this fence come down. i got to tell you, spending most of my time is in war zones, it feels militarized and people are very frustrated and they do not want to feel like they live in a dangerous city when they know there is no danger around them. >> sean: all right, sara carter reporting from washington tonight.

thank you. and as newt gingrich writes in a brand-new column, foxnews.com, "speaker pelosi's fence around the capital is an eyesore, an offense to the american people, and embarrassment for the united states around the world." here to explain more, fox news contributor, former speaker of the house newt gingrich. i actually might have a slight disagreement with you. we have to protect -- that is our house, that is the people's house. we have to protect our institutions, elected official, this is not political. both sides of the aisle have to be protected and be safe.. we now know there was intelligence before what happened on january 6th. nobody -- nobody prepared properly. the guard was called in at six separate times, the president offer the guard, as well. if this is a temporary fix, i don't really have a problem with it. >> sean, what are you trying to

temporarily fix? there is no known threat to the u.s. capital. there is no indication anywhere that there is some organized mob preparing to storm washington. this is all a function of nancy pelosi's paranoia, and the fact that the left wants americans to think that their government has to protect them from some unknown, strange group. the fact is, you know, when i was speaker of the house, we modernize the capitol police. we brought in the chief of staff to the secret service. we went through a very elaborate process and produced a very professional police force. i think that with reasonable leadership, they can protect the capitol without all of these fences, without all of this razor wire. i think it is an insult to every american to be told that their politicians are so important that they are going to hide

behind a wall while the rest of us apparently are in danger. that's the opposite of a free society, and i'm very worried by the steady drift towards an authoritarian, at times totalitarian, government. you see it in some of the big cities, and now you see it on your own national capital. i think this is profoundly wrong, and that that walsh come down immediately. >> sean: until we know they have a plan in place that if something happens that we have the ability and the means to react in record time and protect any effort that might be to tear down an institution or hurt our elected officials, again, this would be a temporary solution. i find the fact that all these democrats said the wall of the summer border was in immorality, a wall for we, but not for thee, that really works out pretty well. it is a little ironic to hear

democrats against walls, except when it comes to protecting themselves. nancy pelosi lives in a big gated community in san francisco, surrounded -- i have no problem with her success, but okay, if it's good for you, why would you say not use it at the southern border? >> look, i was in the capitol when a foreigner tried to set off a bomb. luckily, it did not go off. set it off and it would have taken about a third of the house chamber. people panicked and said, my god, maybe we should never let americans into the house chamber. well, as you know, visitors normally can sit in the gallery. thousands of people do it every year. we had three or four other incidents like that over the years, and the answer has been that freedom has to take some risks. now, if we are going to become a police state and we are going to

have our politicians use the police against all the rest of us, and we are going to have the politicians hide behind walls, we have to ask yourself, why aren't the politicians serve asking themselves, why are people this angry? weather on the right or the left, whether it is antifa or black lives matter or the people that were there on january 6th. i think that this effort to somehow magically figure out -- we are going to be in a police state. we are going to tell you when you can get through the wall, probably make sure you have to walk through various detectors, maybe make you get a reservation a month in advance. i just think the whole thing is absolutely unnecessary, and i think it is insulting to every american citizen. we are supposed to be a free country. we are supposed to be a free country, where the politicians serve us. we don't serve the politicians. and what you are seeing, whether it is in new york or california or illinois or nancy pelosi's

capitol, is everything is being turned upside down. >> sean: and everything joe biden is doing, from joining the climate accords, appeasement of iran, stroke of a pen, bypassing an entire branch of government, the legislative branch, getting rid of the energy sector in this country, open borders, its all amnesty, it's all happening. everything we warned people about. >> right. and i think the democrats will pay an enormous cost for having been doing things that are so destructive and so unacceptable. >> sean: all right, so my next question is, donald trump is going to give this speech at cpac on sunday. the media can't quit following donald trump. they'd like to. they say they'd like to -- >> sure. >> sean: we know it is impossible. he's going to give a speech. i would imagine that it might be a little different than what people are thinking. and i have something in my mind that i believe it will be. i don't want to really give it

away or tell people, but i don't think it's going to be what people think. your thoughts? >> well, i hope -- i hope it is not what people think. he has a wonderful opportunity here to begin to rebrand himself, communicate the strengths of his policies, and do it in a way which is positive and appealing and a dramatic contrast to the confusion you alluded to earlier that seems to be the biden standpoint. oil so, frankly, the focus of 2022, not 2024, every republican ought to be focusing on how we make sure mccarthy is the speaker of the house, and that mcconnell is the senate majority leader. let's get through '22. lots of times to talk residency after '2022. >> sean: when we come back, dr. anthony pouncey, facing more of a backlash for sending a lot of mixed

messages, contradicting himself repeatedly when it comes to covid. many are saying, like meghan mccain, for him to go. we will tell you what pouch he is saying this time. we will get reaction from dr. scott atlas straight ahead. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> sean: dr. anthony fauci continues to face more backlash tonight for mixed messages, inconsistencies, and outright contradictions. all the modeling come of course, is wrong, too. we were told for months and months, the vaccine is our path to normality, and herd immunity. fauci is now proclaiming even if you are vaccinated, you still need to avoid eating out at a restaurant. you may have to wear your mask,

even if you are vaccinated, until 2022? ask yourself, why all the doom, why all the gloom? why all the contradictions? why all the wrong predictions? why all the wrong models? and why such a negative messaging strategy on vaccines? remember, fauci last march, he said no masks -- last march he said that -- and said that well, you probably want to wear a mask, ben said you have to wear a mask, then recently suggesting you where two masks, and we are now seeing a similar evolution on vaccines. back in april, fauci called suffering of americans under lockdowns as being "inconvenient until we have a vaccine." seriously? take a look. >> i know it is difficult, but we are having a lot of suffering, a lot of death. this is inconvenient from an economic and personal standpoint, but we just have to do it. that is our major weapon against this virus right now. if you don't have a vaccine,

that's deployable, this is the only thing we have. >> sean: thanks to operation warp speed, president donald trump, didn't get us one vaccine, he got us three. we now have a vaccine. it is now being deployed. trump leaves office, a million people getting the vaccine a day. but still, fauci is shifting the goalposts again. now he is telling us we still have to do everything we are already doing, stay at home, even if you have the vaccine, don't eat out, where your mask, don't go to a movie theater, and you might not be able to let grandparents see their grandkids, and don't forget, fauci also admitted to intentionally raising the number needed for herd immunity to encourage vaccinations. that's another way of saying he nicely lied to us. in another bizarre moment last year, fauci said it was probablr from a dating app come over. what? but around the same time, also warning that we should no longer shake hands.

telling people to avoid traveling, seeing their loved ones, all while health officials like dr. birx, democratic politicians, all broke these rules. now look, understand, tried to give a lot of slack to everybody. a lot we have learned over the past year. but they got a lot wrong. dr. fauci is increasingly becoming a political figure, putting draconian policy directors over peoples prosperity. trump's travel ban -- remember that one? yeah, he told me on my radio show, it saved and calculable number american lives. who built, who manned, who provided all of the masks and gloves, gowns, the shields, that was donald trump. in states like new york, when they most needed them. man for hospitals, provided all the ppe, all of the medicines, operation warp speed, that too was donald trump, not joe biden. we get it. i want everyone to take

precautions, protect grandma, protect grandpa, those are pre-existing conditions, you don't want to get other people sick. but we also need to be practical, and people, well, in a free country, you now know what the risks are, and you have to determine and ascertain for yourself, in consultation with your doctor, what your level of risk that you want to take and be willing to take. and have the opportunity to live to dignified, fulfilling lives, especially after you got the vaccine. here with reaction, we have dr. scott atlas with us. all right, donald trump did all of this. he gets no credit for the travel ban. that was xenophobic. no credit for building hospitals that cuomo left 80% empty and put patients back in nursing homes. no credit for operation warp speed. before donald trump left office, a million people a day were getting vaccinated. now we are going to get vaccinated, and you can't see her grandkids, can't go out to eat, can't go to a movie, and we

still have to wear the masks? dr. atlas? >> yeah, thanks, sean, for having me. well, i think this is a question that americans have to ask, which is what is the end point here? because the end point is supposed to be living a normal life, and that does not mean, after vaccinations and after dr. macario of the john hopkins school of public health pointed out, there's a large number, probably ten times the number of documented cases of americans who actually have the infection, so we are talking about a huge percentage of people that have immunity from either the infection or now the vaccine. the point is to stop people from dying and lead a normal life. the point is to not be fearful for the rest of our lives about a what if scenario, what if there is a new variant, what if there are new pandemics? this is the point. what is the time we can lead a normal life? as we get people vaccinated,

voluntarily, i hope, we then can open up then we should open up right now, many things, including schools, as has been said and nausea. back to data. remember, this is a virus the overwhelming people would do well with. this is not the bubonic plague, not underestimating the seriousness, but 99% of people survive if you are under 70, and people who are high-risk and elderly, we want to get enough of them vaccinated and with the radioactive board here, herd immunity, of infected people and within vaccinated people, they will be protected and we should be opening up. there is no reason to sit there and invoke fear in everybody as a permanent part of american life. >> sean: all of these states that had massive shutdowns, draconian shutdowns, like new york and new jersey and michigan, and you compare those states, high population of elderly people in florida.

governor desantis did everything he can do to keep the state open, but he targeted that population. one thing they did get right, if you are an older person, pre-existing condition, compromised immune system, comorbidity, you needed to be super careful. okay. he did really well, compared to new york, california, michigan. why? >> well, you have an example of somebody who trusted the people. you don't need restrictions, and what happened was, florida, per capita deaths from covid, beat a lot of states with lockdowns. they did not have cases like california did in the fall and winter. even though florida has the second-highest of people over 65. he trusted the people, so if nothing else, the proof that people can do their own behavior, people are going to be

careful, and you can lead a reasonably normal life, you don't have to lock people up, because when you lock people down, you are killing people, destroying families and children. it's not just economical. all kinds of tolls. you can't ignore that, and somehow that was ignored by the faces of the public health to the american people. who actually, these people admitted they never cared about. and that is really one of the biggest mistakes of public policy. >> sean: all right. dr. atlas, thank you. when we come back, the latest developments surrounding tiger woods serious car crash this morning. golf legend john daly, sportscaster legend jim gray, they join us next, straight ahead. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> sean: all right, we are continuing to follow the developments surrounding tiger woods tonight. he is hospitalized following the single car rollover crash. this happened in southern california this morning. we are learning tonight that would suffer to leg fractures and a shattered ankle, and that he was calm, he was conscious at the scene of the accident. there is no evidence of anything salacious or formal plate, thank goodness. of course, woods' important to the game of golf hard to put into words. here to react to all of this and today's events, golf legend,

two-time major champion, john daly is with us, along with the author of the best-selling book, "talking to goats," goats being "the greatest of all time." jim gray. this is like a bucket list item. we've got to play golf with john daly. loving the beer, too, john. you have no tiger, jim gray, since he was how old? >> since he was a very young man, seven or eight years old, i've known tiger almost four decades. >> sean: john, you've known him from the tour. everyone that i've talked to loves him. he's been great for the game of golf. >> i've known him since he was 13 years old. >> sean: wow. >> he is the most incredible kid i've ever met in my life. i mean, the talent, everything that goes with tiger woods is

just incredible. i've said he would break jack nicholson's record, probably 20 years ago. >> sean: unbelievable. and you had a great career, yourself. jim, it looks -- i mean, for a golfer, he's had these other injuries come he's had the back problems. certainly, this isn't going to help his golf game, but he's been playing really well since he's come back from the last surgery, right? >> until this recent surgery, yeah, but nobody is ever going to forget 2019 when he came back and won the majors, to win the masters after not winning the major for 11 years, to come back from where he was, the back surgeries, the knee surgeries, the infidelity scandal, the dui, it's the greatest individual comeback in the history of sports to be from that peak to that valley, back to the top, and now, just praying he is able to get through these injuries and lead a normal life and full recovery.

but it's the greatest comeback ever, the greatest team comeback was the patriot down 28-3 -- >> sean: now you are talking about another g.o.a.t. >> we are pulling for them to live a normal life. >> sean: now you're talking with tom brady, too. one of the things i love about golf, john, and i watched your career, it's always fun to see you at a tournament. you bring an energy to the game that i just find infectious a hell. and the pressure, though, you won, let's see, go through your record, pga championship as a rookie, the british open, the pressure on a golf earth just to put in a 3-foot putt has to be enormous. >> i don't know, sean, because i never really bothered me. it never has bothered me. i go play golf, i'm kind of a blue-collar guy, so if i made a pot back in the day, a

10-footer to make $20,000, okay, i just wanted to make the putt. and i still in the same way. i don't have a career like tiger. i don't think a lot of people ever will. but i played golf for fun, and i had fun, and that's why i just have so many people that want to play golf with me, because i want to do is have fun. i've had my day. i wanted to be number one back in the day. in '95, when i won the british open, i would have gotten so many points, but they did not come on until '96. >> sean: promise you will play with me and jim gray. that is a bucket list item for me. we are praying for tiger tonight. thanks, guys. ♪ ♪ can't cover golf

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