here in new york. john, great to be with you as we await the president, a speech delayed just a bit from orlando. john: i'm john roberts in washington, d.c., still across the road from the white house where where we've cold and rain, 45 degrees here. would rather be at cpac in orlando covering all of the action. we are delayed here. the president was supposed to take the stage about 20 minutes ago. we understand now that his appearance will probable be more along the lines of 4:55. and, sandra, we are hearing that, like he did in 2019, the speech that the president is about to give may run a full two hours. sandra: he's going to go it. well, we also have been told in recent hours and days that while the speech was prepared, the president himself was listening to folks on the ground there, the speeches that were given and adjusting and changing that script as he went along which very well could have led to the delay that we have now where the president expected just about

bottom of the hour, we should be hearing from former president donald trump. we know in addition to taking on joe biden's policies that his administration has implemented so far, we do know he's going to target that. we also know he's going to target some republicans. i know you've been reporting liz chain and others will be mentioned by claim by the former president. what else are you hearing? john: this is a bit of a moving target, i was told. when i was first briefed on the speech on friday in some detail, the person who briefed me said, look, the president is going to suggest that the only divisions within the republican party are between a handful of inside the beltway political hacks and then everybody else in america and that he was going to name names. and i said, well, what names will he name? and the person who was briefing me on it said, well, it's kind of changing a little bit, so we don't want to say right now because some names may be added, some names may be taken out.

liz cheney would probably be a good bet considering the fact that she not only voted in the house in favor of impeachment, but said the other day in that uncomfortable moment with the house minority leader, kevining mccarthy, that she doesn't believe president trump should run again for president in 2024. it's possible mitch mcconnell's name could be on the list as well because, don't forget, mitch mcconnell -- after the acquittal of president trump in that senate trial -- went on to say, yes, he was guilty of everything that the democrats were charging him for, but that the senate was not the place to try the president after he had already left office. so, again, it's a moving target here. mitch mcconnell maybe made some amends the other day in his interview i with bret baier when bret said would you vote for the president if he were the nominee, and mitch mcconnell said absolutely. sandra: yep. john: what mcconnell did not say, though, was whether he would sport his candidacy in the

primary. sandra: important distinction. jon: that is an important distinction. so i would expect, you know, they might if decide to not even name names, and and one of the reasons might be because all this week at cpac so far what we've seen is all about unity, all about strength going forward. so it may just be that the president said, look, the only divisions are between a handful of inside the beltway hacks and everybody else at america, leave it at that, or he may decide to name names. a loot of this always depends -- a lot of this always depends, i learned this very early covering his election campaign, depends on how he feels at the moment and the feedback that he's getting from the crowd. that is probably one of the most important factors. sandra: really important point, i go back to a tweet from ari fleischer saying the way the president wins with this speech is to target joe biden's policies. that is how you unite the party. so we'll see if he does just that. mark meredith is on the ground

there, in fact, he's inside where the president should be speaking soon in orlando, florida. mark, give us a sense of how the crowd's feeling, as i'm sure the anticipation is building even more. >> reporter: yeah, sandra, waiting is the hardest part, and you can tell that this crowd's still very excited. they don't seem to mind the delay at this point. but, of course, as it continues, i would imagine there'll be some people wanting to go stretch their legs. you were talking about the great weather down in florida in february, you're right, but in this ballroom we have no windows and no clocks, so it's kind of a casino-like atmosphere all day. people probably won't get too antsy anytime soon. there has been so much buildup with this speech, the president being the last speaker at cpac, and that was by design. think of some of the other names we've heard already including texas senator ted cruz, florida governor ron desantis after he invited cpac to come down here

because of some of the pandemic restrictions. we heard from florida senator rick scott, florida senator rubio did not come out here to speak, he said he had a family conflict that prevented him, but it certainly felt like the entire florida delegation was sending a message to conservatives that they are more than welcome right here in the great state of florida. and, of course, we've always been looking at florida as kind of that swing state. go back 20 years to the election of 2000, remember how close it was where we've seen since the november results how this state has started to shift. now you have a republican governor, two republican senators. so florida conservatives certainly eager to show that they see a movement coming here that could spread into other states. i was speaking with a top florida republican on friday and asking her, you know, what is the plan? is the something you guys are going to try to sell to other a states? look what we're fighting for whether it be less taxes, fewer restrictions especially when it came to businesses reopening and more opportunities for -- you

think,, it's because florida has reopened things. i had dipper just across the -- beginner just across the street, and one of the waiters was telling me it was the first time in a long time they could remember things this busy. it's been a year, guys, since we've seen anything like this. i covered the rnc down in charlotte last year, and that was only a few hours and then things moved away. this is the first time in a long time that i can remember that we want to mention some of the other things that we've seen that make it different this year. first or we'll start with the pandemic. people have been getting their temperatures taken and also submit health questionnaires, and people have been required to wear masks. that's the one thing that, of course, sticks out this career compared to previous -- this year compared to previous cpac events. the america first agenda is one thing we heard from pretty much

every speaker that comes to the podium, and you wondered if whether or not we'd be hearing a test fire on some of the new messages out there. it did feel like it was dominated by the former president, and it's worth seeing people that had t-shirts on, somebody for ted cruz or say i'm with ron, instead it really has been people wearing the maga hats and signs. and this was unbelievable. somebody created a large sculpture of the former president. this thing was massive. i'm not the tallest guy in america, but this thing was bigger than i am. people were posing with it, josh and sandra -- john and sandra, people very excited to have anything to do with trump. sandra: all right. thank you for your reporting there, mark meredith. charlie hurt, "washington times" opinion editor and alyssa farah, if you are hear us, former white house communications director. if i could, some of what we just

heard there the trump faith portfolio on the ground, you addressed this earlier with his base, and he will be talking to them. preaching to the choir, if you will. what can he say to address the traditional members of the gop who are disheartened by the rhetoric of the trump presidency? how can he unite? >> that's a great point. i think really talking about the biden policy agenda or lack thereof is a good starting point. so right now congress is talking about this nearly $2 trillion economic stimulus package that has no plan for job creation, in fact, it's going to kill 1.3 million jobs if they're able to raise the minimum wage, you know, reversing the keystone pipeline and killing american jobs, really focusing on what democrats are doing and what welcome expect for the next four years -- we can expect for the next four years as opposed to his agenda and what it could be going forward. but i would say 2022 is what we should be talking about. you don't win back majorities

with far-right trump districts. you win moderate type districts where you need a civil message, you need an economic message. but sometimes the harsher rhetoric doesn't play quite as well there. so i hope he's thinking about 2022 first and building back the party before his own future. john: we understand that the main thrust of the speech is going to be 2022, and we have heard, you know, some of the former president's fellow republicans say, look, don't consider the personality of the president, consider the results of the policies. let me get, charlie, you to weigh in on this. two of the big questions are, one, how hard is he going to hit republicans who did not support him and will he name names. sandra and i were talking about that just a couple minutes ago. and how far down the road will he go to relitigate the november 3rd election in his speech? i'm told he's got a couple of paragraphs that may include november 3rd, but in the context

of fixes that need to be made to the election system in order to be assured that 2022 is fair and accurate and can be believed. byron donald said, look, i want to hear about the future, i don't want to relitigate november 3rd. how far down both of those roads do you think he'll go, and what are the pros and cons of doing that? both of you. >> yeah. i think it's crucially important for the president to talk about election integrity, and that is a fine thing to talk about. it's the most important thing to talk about. or among the most important things he can talk about. but i don't think that spending a lot of time talking about november 3rd is going to help anything. i think that what he needs to do is he can mention those things, but then go back to the issues. and these are live issues. the agenda that president trump offered, it's a very broadly-popular agenda. and the reason that, you know, that he won is because he did make so many inroads among

democrat voters with that broadly-popular agenda. and i think if he talks about those issues, and they're live issues because so many of them are being upended by democrats in congress and joe biden in the white house. and i think those issues is the way forward. obviously, donald trump is donald trump, and he's always going to be donald trump. for those folks who like him and his personality, warts and all, it's not going to bother us if he goes and beats up on liz cheney -- verbally, of course -- over this stuff. because, you know, that's who he is. he's a pugnacious kind of guy. and we like, and, you know, that sort of politics is not bad. but i do think it's kind of rich when you look at senator cassidy talking about you need to take personality out of politics. my goodness, we just finished a ridiculous exercise of several months where congress yet again grinds to a halt, or several

weeks anyway, grinds to a halt for impeachment that ends in goose eggs, and it's all because they hated the personality. it's a personal vendetta. and, that's exactly how we started the pandemic, all because they don't like his personality. so getting lectured to by somebody like senator cassidy is kind ofly dick the louse. maybe democrats stop worrying about his personality too. john: alyssa, your thoughts? >> something that president trump has to be extremely proud of is he received 75 million votes across the country which is more than mccain did, than romney, than other republican nominees prior. but anytime we mention that number, we need to also remember joe biden got 78 million, he got more. so there's a lot of good we need to take from president trump which i believe is the tremendous accomplishments on

the economy, tax cuts, trying to get us out of some of our longest lasting wars. but what is that x factor that the gop just didn't have in 2020 to bring enough folks over to our side. so i think that needs to be kind of the open question. i'm heartened to see that there's tremendous enthusiasm among the conservative base especially after what was really a bad election cycle for us, losing the house and the senate and the presidency. so where can we channel that energy into something constructive to build on what we had but also make inroads with those that that we lost. and that's the open question. sandra: good stuff, guys. our panel will stand by with us, charlie and alyssa, thank you. as we await former president trump to speak at cpac, which he is due to do so just a short time from now, a quick check on other news. there's growing fallout in new york after a second woman now has come forward and accused governor andrew cuomo of sexual misconduct. now even more fellow democrats are demanding action.

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in the senate. i want to talk about some of the provisions, though, that the house passed, increased testing, increased ppe, school funding, food assistance, rental assistance, childcare

assistance, also those $1400 stimulus checks. >> 90% of this package goes to address the twin crises we're facing right now, chris, which is getting the pandemic under control and helping the american people go back to work. >> reporter: but many republicans are crying foul, arguing these earmarks in the bill, about $100 million for public transit in san francisco, around a billion for other similar transportation projects, around $200 million for museums, libraries and about $2 the 70 million in arts and humanities endowments. >> do we need to pay for bridges? does that have anything to do with covid? do we need to pay for tunnels for silicon valley? does that do anything? if you look at what they're doing -- listen, if we're focused on covid, let's take care of the people who have lost their job, let's help our businesses. >> reporter: and on to the minimum wage standard, democrats want that $15 an hour proposal,

that's not going to happen in the senate because the senate parliamentarian said it's contrary to senate rules so it can't happen. now democrats are proposing adding a payroll tax to large corporations who do not want to raise the minimum wage against president biden heading back to washington tomorrow. he'll speak with the leader of mexico, and we also found out today iran does not want to talk informalally formally right now -- or formally right now. a white house spokesperson says they are ready and committed to engaging in dialogue with iran when iran is ready. sandra: going to be a big week. david spunt reporting live from wilmington for us, thank you. john? john john a big week on another front as well. new york governor andrew cuomo says he is formally asking for an independent investigation the after a second accuser came forward with sexual harassment allegations against him. former aide telling "the new york times" that governor cuomo asked her inappropriate questions about her personal life. alex hogan is live in new york city with all the latest

developments, and there's been some big moves in this today, alex. >> reporter: hi, john, that's right. a lot of moving parts, and we're hearing more and more people on both sides of the aisle calling for an incompetent investigation -- independent investigation and some bilateral calls for people to move forward, even asking the governor to resign. now, the 25-year-old named charlotte bennett, she told "the new york times" of some of her experiences working for the governor. she eventually left the job in the fall. bennett claims that cuomo would ask her questions about her personal relationships and if she'd ever been with older men. the governor responded to this saying, quote: i'm trying to be a mentor to her. i never made advances toward ms. bennett, nor did i ever intend to act in a way that was inappropriate. the last thing i would have ever wanted was to make her feel any of the things that are being reported. the governor's office says it wants an investigation, and it called on the state attorney general and chief judge to pick an independent lawyer. attorney general leticia james

released a new statement, quote: to clarify, i do not accept the governor's proposal. the state's executive law clearly gives my office the authority to investigate this matter once the governor provides a referral. so all that really means that according to new york state law, the governor would have to formally call for an investigation in writing. congressman lee zeldin spoke about this on fox today. >> the attorney general is calling for a fully independent investigation to take place. governor cuomo trying to dictate who should be working with the attorney general, who the attorney general should be appointing, he should stand down and let the attorney general do her job. >> reporter: bennett is the second woman to step forward with sexual harassment claims. cuomo's former top aide, limbed city boylan, published her allegations in an essay online, and there she says these allegations went on for several years. it explains that governor cuomo

has simply said they are not true. john? john: alex hogan in new york city, we'll see how long the governor can hang on or if he even can. thanks so much. sandra: we just got word that the former president donald trump is on site there at cpac in orlando ahead of his speech. a bit delayed at this point, but he will be speaking soon, no less. karl rove will join us next on the opportunity he sees for the former president there on that stage and the future of the republican party. rove will join us next. ♪ libertymutual.com to customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? really? i didn't-- aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health.

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president arrived in the building there for cpac, also at cpac is a florida republican congressman ryan donald from the 19th congressional district he is very familiar with people who watch "america reports" during the week and joined us on this sunday afternoon, congressman donald it's great to talk to you. we talked to you a couple of days ago yesterday, you told her she did not want to hear the president relitigate the november 3 election, based on what you heard and seen at cpac over the last couple of days we know the president has been tweaking his script based on what the other people there appear have said. what do you think is the most important message for him to deliver today? >> i think the president will talk about his agenda over the past four years and the tragedy were seen right now coming out of the new administration. in the vision forward of what not just america needs to look forward to but the republican party and also conservatism and that's going to be the bulk of his remarks today and i'm excited like everybody else to

see a speech in hear from the president is been some time since we've heard from him and i'm ready to hear. sandra: all ask a question that i asked alyssa farah who worked in the white house, he knows the crowd he speaking to their but what about the folks who perhaps were turned off by the rhetoric of the trump presidency but the republicans, how does he unite the party with the speech as he has so many watching this afternoon? >> honestly i think the disaster were witnessing when joe biden will bring the republicans back home to the people out there who might've made a different decision in november or stayed home because of rhetoric what you're seeing now is a result elections do have consequences and what is important for our country is our politicians and elected officials who are committed to an america first agenda not committed to be nice all the time because that does not help us, what helps us is a committed agenda for americans in the future of her country.

i think what the president will do is highlight that in major ways today and i hope that those republicans listen to that speech, get that from the president today and that they come home to the party that is their home. john: what are the other things they president is expected to do is potentially callout his speech will turn inside the beltway political hacks who he doesn't think critically good for the republican party, do you think that is constructive as well the president in the past with the election challenge. said he was going to primary the hell out of candidates or lawmakers currently sitting who did not support him, is that helpful to? >> i think inside the beltway crowd is not the best thing for the republican party. if that were the case there window been a need for president donald trump, our party is moving toward an agenda that works for all americans not just k street lobbyists and those with the connections. i think those in our party think

that is the future are kidding themselves. what we need people who are going to be consistent about the things that they run on not pay lip service to voters but when they get elected don't do anything. and with respect to the president getting involved at the primaries he's a private citizen he's entitled to do that like every other american. sandra: we appreciate it, thank you, karl rove joining us white house deputy chief of staff and fox news contributor. we are getting word that the president is closer than once was thought he might be moments away you see the crowd is definitely into submitting this big speech, your thought ahead of the former presidents words moments from now? >> i agree with congressman donald, does he offer a vision it's one thing to go after the biden the administration of what they have done in the first couple weeks of office that is easy to do that's where we find ourselves as an opposition party for naturally distinctively going on offense against about things they are doing but i

think congressman donald is right for the future president trump needs to articulate a vision of what he would do in the future and 20 field to do during the campaign and had something to do that he lost nearly by 7 million votes, that is really key i don't think it's awful for the president i said in the wall street journal column to pick up people in the party and say i'm going after them because first of all that will be the storyline out of today and it will be the rest of the media the mainstream media will pick that up and run with it the republican party in the midst of the civil war, it's just not constructive. at the end of the day he can endorse people primaries who happen to be running against him but he doesn't like but to pick people out of the crowd symbolizes a broken party and broken parties don't win elections or don't win a big election as they should guided parties do. john: i am told everything is

fluent in terms of whether he will name names and whose names he might mention. apparently the folks in the ballroom are being treated to the trump campaign playlist that we all became familiar with during the 2020 campaign, we should point out this speech in himself with him being so critical of the biden administration is unusual typically when presidents ride off into the sunset they lay low for a while even al gore after what was a devastating loss in 2020 didn't have anything to say about president bush for a number of months. >> the last president who was defeated who went after his opponent did give his successor in pocket of herbert hoover in delano roosevelt, number of months before he began to speak out it is unusual but has donald trump ever been governed by what is conventional and been a historical president. sandra: you wrote in the wall street journal three days ago.

an opportunity for trump at cpac and you asked the question will he double down on grievance or begin the process of re-creating his image, which will be? >> i don't know, they practice not help him in this, there were seven sessions devoted to election integrity which people fulminate it over the outcome of the november election and very few sessions they were focused on big issues you might have one on this topic or two on this topic but seven on one topic said at least the background of the people who organizes conference was to keep focus on outcome of the november election. it is hard i saw the other day he talked about grover cleveland in theater roosevelt as examples of a president who successfully did it in another president unsuccessfully did it there successfully nine examples of president or vice president who became president who have sought the office again after being defeated and only one of them

grover cleveland succeeded. you have to let people know i know there's things you did not like about me and i'm changing some of those things and offering you think that you did not hear from you before. we will see today whether or not he does that. i talked to the people he's been around of the preparation of the speech process, they are aware of the challenges the president faces in trying to regain the white house in 2024 or even maintaining the dominant role as a kingmaker and to your point they're not certain how he's going to necessarily come out even after the final wrap of the speech which is sort of semi-locked-in. john: human to the people who tried for second time i was expecting you to poll out the whiteboard, you showed us the other day. >> i got it right here if you like it. john: i knew it was still around, we saw the results of

the straw poll and former president trump's approval rating was 97%, 95% they wanted him to continue his policies, 70% said they wanted to see him run again but 55% said that they would vote for him. i thought that number might've been higher. >> bingo i agree entirely, this is the group that came to the meeting for largely one reason president trump was going to be there. this is the truest trump believers and for him to only get 55% says he is losing strength because is not introducing something, he's losing strength whether he recognizes and if i were them i would take that as a cautionary note he needs to refresh his act and he needs to change and offer a vision for the future. sandra: interesting analysis is this too soon? were talking about not exactly conventional for former president to speak to soon after leaving office but if the plan indeed is to run again is this too early? >> there is planning of time that's one point that you make

with had people like this before and it's not a good example for the president shortly after he lost the 1896 campaign william jennings bryan said he would run again in 1900 and he did and lost in 1904 got the democratic nomination and lost to the general election in 1908 he got it and lost and run again in 1912 by woodward wilson. the only previous one that we had they made earlier announcement followed through was a guy who went on to lose three more times. john: this is a hypothetical but if he does come forward with a refreshed message and go back and relitigate the election campaign and the election of november 3 if it's not just a litany of grievances and if in the next 20 months, 22 -- 21 months if he focuses on getting people elected could he again be a contender in 2024, he could be

a contender now but could he command the party in 2024 if he does all that? >> every candidate faces a three-part challenge how do you keep the parties blue-collar middle-class group wired up and ready to go how do you reestablish the republican support in the suburbs where we lost the 2020 presidential race and how do you deal with an increasingly diverse electorate where we had some success in california we flipped for the first time since the republican party was founded, california republicans flipped for democratic seats and did so by running to latino men into asian american women if trump faces that challenge anybody to think about 2024 has to be thinking about as well. sandra: as our audience anticipates and awaits the former president speech it should be happening in a few moments were told these backstage greeting supporters at this moment we do know he's

expected to take on bidens immigration policy that part say there's not just illegals but there's immoral and heartless and is expected to take on joe biden in the slow reopening of america's schools, will see where he goes with that right now the republican party is expected to make the case united and perhaps it came to your surprise or others that he is expected to say were not starting new parties because we seen him pulling that there is an appetite for that within the republican party. >> he understands that's a recipe for total unmitigated disaster because you divide the republican party in half and it's easier for democrats to win election it's wise on his part to take that up, he talked about and there was discussion with visitors with mar-a-lago who talk to members of the press how there was a chance for a new party based around trump and i think he's wise today if he

follow suit on what john is been briefed on what i heard i think that's a very wise move on his part. john: that's one side of the coin but the flipside of the coin if you have 46% of trump supporters who said they would leave the gop if he decided to create a third party he has a pretty big tote holdover the republican party to say you better listen to me i could take half of your voters and take them somewhere else. >> you gotta be careful about that message because there's 20 or 25% of the voters who say i don't like being threatened, look at georgia we were losing the senate races, the republican candidate for public service, bubba mcdonald one with 47000 votes while david perdue got while losing and 30 some odd thousand votes and kelly loeffler because they were a bunch of republicans who said i don't like you the president

attacking the republican governor and the republican secretary of state and the only way to express myself as a vote against the two people you're holding up and returned to my party loyalty and the guy who is running for public service commission on the same day. we've got to be careful leaders of parties who attempt to go out and go after their party rivals whether it's franklin roosevelt 1938 or donald trump in 2022 i think the record does not work out very well. john: that's one of the things i love about karl he can find so much wisdom and down ballot races. i don't know anybody else that could do that. sandra: if you could standby with us anybody's guess exactly when the former president comes out on the stage could be any moment but standby joining us on the phone's tech texas congressman ronny jackson, good afternoon to you, what you want to hear from former president trump on that stage? >> i appreciate it i'm just really inspired from being as he

packed the last couple of days the enthusiasm is through the roof, the republican party went through a rough time the last couple of months and we talk about the party splitting and people not knowing the party going forward and if you look around here i'm telling you our party is united in president trump is still in control of his party for the large part i don't think anybody as a way it looks right now in the next four years without the endorsement of president trump and i don't know if you will run again but will wait and see. he is still in control of his base and i'm really excited that everybody's come together i think he has a bright future and we had a really good run in the house and were poised to get the house back in in a couple of years and we will get the presidency back in a few years i want president trump to come out and think the crowd because people here love the president to death and it's inspiring to

see they are not hopeless and they're not distraught people are looking to the future, they're not looking backwards, they're looking forward at cpac so i'm really excited about it. john: doctor jackson, it's john roberts, congratulations on your win i had not had a chance to say that to you. what is the mood in the room with the message that they want to hear from the president about a way forward versus looking in the rearview mirror. >> i think is positive i was waiting on him to come out i was talking to you guys was probably backstage right now, absolutely i'm excited about his speech but people here no one is looking backwards all of the talk about people fixated on the election being stolen some people believe the honestly and they think there was fraud in the election was not potentially fair but i think everybody is committed to

playing the hand that we've been dealt and moving forward that is really the attitude and like i said the enthusiasm is really high in the room so it's a very festive situation. >> your words were matched by some dancing in the crowd, you hear the famous trump probably playing the last song before the former president comes out you heard macho man a moment ago obviously energetic crowd we were given the five minute warning a couple of minutes ago that we would see donald trump take that stage expect that moments from now, finally your thoughts not just on what you want to hear that what your party needs to hear from the former president. >> our party needs to hear that we need to get together in one team one fight, we cannot fracture that's what the democrats want us to happen to the republican party they want

us to fracture and split often have a second party and if that happens it'll be the kiss of death i don't know food will go through another election cycle because we split off into two parties or something where people don't get out and vote because are not enthusiastic about voting that will be a big problem that's not going to happen what we need to hear let's get together, let's move forward let's fight the fight and regardless of what happens to the president i don't know if he'll run again but his agenda his movement keep america great america first agenda i guarantee if you spend two minutes you'll see that agenda is alive and well and that's part of his legacy and i think the president is invested to make sure that moves forward as well and he started that and that's his legacy and i think you would love to see that continue to grow over the next couple of decades. john: doctor ronny jackson of texas, good to be with you and i don't know how many trump

rallies i was at where the crowd would get up and dance their hearts out, typically the last song that we hear before the president came out when he was president was league greenwood but apparently glorious would be the last song he wants to get the crowd really pumped before he appears but it should be a couple moments because the song is just about over. sandra: that looks to be the case let's bring back karl rove you're watching this play out the crowd is been waiting sometime to hear from the former president. >> not only the crown cpac crowds tend to be enthusiastic, he's went to several of them there vertically enthusiastic because the president has been out of sight and not out of mind i suspect it's true for many people across the country who want to hear from the former president aimportant moment youa chance to make one introduction you get only one chance to make

a reintroduction and today is a reintroduction of the former president as he begins to reassert his control over the republican party which is substantial today and lay the groundwork for 2024. john: you her doctor jackson said he doesn't know if the president will run again. wait a second i think were coming. here we are ♪ ♪ if tomorrow all the things were gone i worked for all my life ♪ ♪ and i had to start again ♪ ♪ with just my children ♪ ♪ and my wife ♪ ♪ i think my lucky stars ♪ ♪ to be living here today coco because the flag still stands

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died who gave that right to me. ♪ and i'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today -- ♪ 'cuz there ain't no doubt i love this land. ♪ god bless the usa ♪♪ [cheers and applause] >> usa! usa! usa! are -- >> well, thank you very much. hello, cpac. do you miss me yet?

do you miss me? [cheers and applause] a lot of things going on. to so many wonderful friends, conservatives and fellow citizens in this room, all across our country, i stand before you today to declare that the incredible journey we've begun together, we went through a journey like nobody else. there's never been a journey like it, there's never been a journey so successful. [cheers and applause] we began it together four years ago, and it is far from being over. [cheers and applause] our movement of proud -- and you know what this is? the hardest working people, hard working american patriots, it's just getting started. and in the end, we will win. we will win. [cheers and applause] we've been doing at lot of winning. as we gather this week, we're in the middle of a historic

struggle for america's future, america's culture and america's institutions, borders and most cherished principles. our security, our prosperity and our very identity as americans is at stake like perhaps at no other time. is so -- so no matter how much the washington establish and the powerful special interests may want to silence us, let there be no doubt we will be victorious, and america will be stronger and greater than ever before. [cheers and applause] i want to thank my great friends matt and mercedes schlapp. [cheers and applause] matt, thank you. thank you. mercedes, thank you very much. and the american conservative union for hosting this extraordinary event. they're talking about it all over the world, matt. i know you don't like that, but

that's okay. all over the world. i also want to pay my love and respect to the great rush limbaugh. [cheers and applause] who is watching closely and smiling down on us. he's watching and he's loving it, and he loves katherine. katherine, thank you for being here. so great. thank you, katherine. he loved you, katherine, i will tell you that. [applause] so fantastic. thank you, katherine, very much. each and every one of you here at cpac, i am grateful to you than you will ever know. we are gathered this afternoon to talk about the future of our movement, the future of our party and the future of our beloved country. for the next four years, the brave republicans in this room

will be at the heart of the effort to oppose the radical democrats, the fake news media and their toxic cancel culture. something new to our ears, cancel culture. and i want you to know that i'm going to continue to fight right by your side. we will do what we've done right from the beginning -- [cheers and applause] which is to win. we're not starting new parties. you know, they kept saying he's going to start a brand new party. we have the republican party. [cheers and applause] it's going to unite and be stronger than ever before. i am not starting a new party. that was fake news. fake news, no. wouldn't that be brilliant? let's start a new party, let's divide our vote so that you can never win. no, we're not interested in that. no, we have tremendous --

mr. mcloughlin just gave me number that've we've never heard of before, more popular -- [cheers and applause] those are great numbers, and i want to thank you very much. i came here, and he was giving me 95%, 96%, 92%. i said, they're great, and i want to thank everybody in this room and everybody all throughout the country. throughout the world, if you want to really know the truth. thank you. [cheers and applause] we will be united and strong like never before. we will save and strengthen america, and we will fight the onslaught of of radicalism, socialism and, indeed, it all leads to communism. that's what it leads to. you'll be hearing more and more about that as we two along, but that's what it leads to. you know that. we all knew that the biden administration was going to be bad, but none of us even imagined just how bad they would be and how far left they would go. he never talked about this.

we would have those wonderful debates, he would never talk about this. we didn't know what the hell he was talking about, actually. [laughter] [cheers and applause] his campaign was -- he talked about energy. i said, you know, this guy, he's actually okay with energy. he wasn't okay with energy. wants to put you all out of business. he's not okay with energy. he wants windmills. the windmills that don't work when you need 'em. joe biden has had the most disastrous first month of any president in modern history. that's true. [cheers and applause] already the biden administration has proven that they are anti-jobs, anti-family, anti-borders, anti-energy, anti-women and anti-science. [applause] in many just one short -- in just one short month, we have

gone from america first to america last. think about it, right? america last. there is no better example than the new and horrible crisis on our southern border. we did such a good job, it was all work. nobody's ever seen anything like we did, and now he wants it all to go to hell. when i left office just six weeks ago, we had created the most secure border in u.s. history. [applause] we had built almost 500 miles of great border wall that helped us with these numbers because once it's up, you know, they used to say a wall isn't important. you know what i've always said, walls and wheels, those are two things that will never change. the wall has been amazing. it's been incredible. little sections of it to complete, they don't want to complete it. they don't want to complete little sections in certain little areas they don't want to

complete. it's had an impact that nobody would have even believed. it's amazing considering that the democrats' number one priority was to make sure that the wall would never, ever get built, would never, ever happen, would never get financed. we got it financed. we ended catch and release, ended asylum fraud and brought illegal crossings to historic lows. [applause] when illegal aliens trespass across our borders, they were promptly caught, detowned -- detained and sent back home. and these were some rough customers, i want to tell you, some rough customers were entering our country. it took the new administration only a few weeks to turn this unprecedented accomplishment into a self-inflicted humanitarian and national security disaster. by recklessly eliminating our border, security measures, controls, all of the things that we put into place, joe biden has

triggered a massive flood of illegal immigration into our country the likes of we have never seen before. they're coming up by the tens of thousands. they're all coming to take advantage of the things that he said that's luring everybody to come to america. and we're one country. we can't afford the problems of the world as much as we'd love to. we'd love to help. we can't to that. so they're -- we can't do that. so they're all coming because of promises and foolish words. perhaps worst of all, joe biden's decision to cancel border security has single-handedly launched a youth migrant crisis that is enriching child smugglers, vicious criminal cartels and some of the most evil people on the planet. you see it every day. just turn on the news, you'll see it every day. under my administration we stopped the child smugglers, we

dismantled the criminal cartels, we briefly limited drug and human trafficking to a level that nobody actually thought was possible, and the wall helped us a lot. and we protected -- [applause] vulnerable people. from the ravages of dangers predators. and that's what they are, dangerous, dangerous predators. but the biden administration has put the vile coyotes back in business, and it has done so in a very, very big way. under the new administration, catch and release has been restored. can you imagine? we worked so hard. catch -- you know what that is. you catch them, you take them, they may be killers, they may be rapists, they may be drug smugglers. you take their name and you release them into our country. we did the opposite. we not only didn't release 'em, we had them brought back to their country. [applause] illegal immigrants are now