15-minute speech out of the park tomorrow! and people are going to say, see, hannity! he's fine.e.ow no, he's not. we'll always be independent, fair, balanced. we are not the media mob and let not your heart be troubled. here is laura! how are you, miss ingraham? > doing very well. i think biden will discuss the laws of physics and the laws of politics and privilege and i think it's going to be astounding and amazing. to be astounding and amazing. i'm going to look on the bright side. explain all the bills, all the legislation backwards and forwards. charts. >> sean: i think it shows our kids it's a good example, if you practice really, really hard over and over again you can do it. >> laura: we shall see, sean, thanks so much, we will see you tomorrow. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. his white privilege really at the heart of the while dustup? is there another insidious force at play?

nigel for roger reacts in moments. plus as sex traffickers, other criminals exporting our southern border, senator josh hawley is calling for hearings and a lot nigel reagents in a moment plus criminals exploiting our weak southern border. josh hawley is calling for hearings and more. why is the debate for the 26th amendment ever brought up for biden? he'll tell us in the seen and unseen. the ultimate privilege, that's the focus. critical race theory came of age on college campuses in the 1970s and that's where we got the term white privilege to explain any negative trend or scenario playing out in black america. it goes like this. even if you're a poor white kid living in a trailer in arkansas struggling in a dysfunctional family, you're still benefiting from your skin color.

you thus have a moral obligation to devote your life to overcoming your privilege and even then you're never going to be cured from your inherent bias. it's like the religion, where there is original sin but no hope of redemption. >> white privilege is the automatic taken for granted advantage bestowed upon white peel as a result of living in a society based on the premise of white as the human ideal. >> it's critical for white people, for people in general, to stop denying their racist ideas, to stop denying the ways in which policies have benefitted them, to stop denying their racism. >> laura: but now this warped mindset isn't just limited to college seminars. it's affecting everyday life. why? >> because in corporate america vick him is lucrative.

diversity and equity consultants pull down six figure salaries. blm raked in more than $90 million last year. hollywood is pledging more funding for inclusivity. meanwhile, they are seen as needing to be driven out of society. it props up certain americans and punishes others but it's not grounded in race. it's elite privilege. where liberal elites award and protect others, where left wing political status guarantee permanent protection. big pay-outs or both. now, we've had a lot of recent examples of this type of privilege. hunter biden's new book deal. kamala harris's stepdaughter and niece getting really big paying

modeling gigs and if you criticize, by the way, any of them for reaping these awards, you're viciously attacked by fellow privileged elites. so i wasn't at all surprised to watch the duchess of sussex chatting with her neighbor oprah about how unfair life is. now, what better way to guarantee your permanent membership in the club of liberal privilege than a generic charge of racism against the monarchy no less. now, when someone dares to speak their truth in response to that supposed truth or even heaven forbid criticize the supposed victim, they are pillared. such was the faith of good morning britain's pierce morgan who was unrepentant after leaving the show he coanchored. >> i believe in freedom of speech. i believe in the right to be allowed to have an opinion. if people want to believe

markle, that's entirely their right. i don't believe in most anything that comes out of her mouth so if i have to fall on my sword for expressing an honestly held opinion about meghan markle and that diatribe that she came out with so be it. >> morgan may be blustery at times and blunt but he should be free to express his own views but, my friends, those days are past. by saying what half the world is thinking, that meghan is a spoiled entitled brat he became the elite's number one so he was canceled but at least in australia they still have a semblance of free expression left over at sky news. >> archie, ms. markle said there were concerns an conversations about how dark his skin might be. condemn everyone, anyway no one. the tactic of a u.n. worthy person. prince harriet is captured by the untruths spread by ms.

markle and the victim hood she professes to endure. and what of the royal wedding. we now learn that the two were actually wedded in a private ceremony three days before the televised event. that about sums it up, doesn't it? the wedding was a fake. the lady is a fake. >> laura: now, part of markle's great agony stems from the fact that her son archie wasn't going to be given a title. she implies it was based on race. some kind of racist plot. and oprah, of course, didn't challenge her buddy's claim because elites don't challenge other members of the club. the truth gets lost until someone honest states it. >> -- is a granddaughter of the queen. the brother peter phillips played rugby for scotland. no titles. they weren't seeking them. that's normal, decent polite achieving people.

>> laura: the daughters and son of princess anne didn't get titles an didn't get security and didn't complain. but in the world of elite privilege, of course, achievement is secondary. it's secondary to cash. you know, you don't need talent or hard work. political loyalty, phony victim hood and connections is what really matters. actual discrimination is pernicious and evil. we all know that but this entire racket uses claims of discrimination to award members of the club and diminishes all of it. elite privilege is poisoning america, sabotaging our sense of fairness. a sense of entitlement without accomplishment it's paralyzing otherwise sane people into silence. we see this in the reporting of barry weiss who recently resigned from the "new york times" after she says she was bullied by colleagues for not being a hard leftist. in a fascinating city journal

piece which you should all read in its entirety she describes the perversion of education at the hands of leftist ideologues, and she said parents sometimes meet in secret. these are the rebels, well off l.a. parents who send their children to harvard west, the most prestigious school in the city. there are many more too afraid to speak of. they worry about losing their jobs or hurting their kids if their opposition to the ideology were known. the school can ask you to leave for any reason said one mother at brentwood. another los angeles prep school. then you would be blacklisted from all the private schools and be known as a racist which is worse than being called a murderer. even democrats are at risk, by the way, unless they are buying into all of this nonsense a hundred percent, so it's go woke or go broke. and it's turning kids into nervous wrecks. for them it's not just the fear

of getting a bad grade or being turned down for a college recommendation. it's the fear of social shaming. if you publish my name it would ruin my life. people would attack me for even questioning this ideology. i don't even want people to know i'm a capitalist. a student at a school in new york city told me the kids are scared of other kid, says one harvard westlake mother. these children, even if they are well off kids, are closer to being victims than meghan markle will ever be. they know that one wrong word can have devastating consequences. but markle is a liberal feminist with a long record of trashing donald trump and she's friends with oprah. she's in the club. so she can speak her mind, even defame her husband's royal heritage and if anyone like pierce morgan calls her out, she cries foul. new reports reveal that markle has filed a formal complaint with i-tv against hip.

elites like markle they love the idea of regulating other people's speech, just not their own. the formal royals are just buy products of the twisted world of elite privilege. i actually feel sorry for them. imagine getting netflix and spotify deals reportedly worth more than a hundred million dollars just because you turn your back on your family, and then claim victim status on the way out the door. that's just royally embarrassing, and that's "the angle." joining me now is former uk brexit party leader. nigel, look, hurling unsubstantiated claims of racism on national tv at your royal in-laws and then getting your critics canceled, is this not the ultimate privilege? >> oh, yes, it certainly is. you know, meghan married into the royal family.

i think it was clear from day one what her intentions were. at that wedding three years ago that fox news covered so well oprah winfrey was a guest at the wedding despite the fact that meghan markle had only met her once before. their intentions were clear. to accuse the royal family, to accuse the queen effectively, who next year would have reigned for 70 years but not just over the uk, she's the head of the commonwealth. over 50 countries, 2.3 billion people, the vast majority of whom are asian or black. our royal family has done a huge amount for people of color all over the world. that was unsubstantiated. much else of what she said was simply untrue. her grandson, they wouldn't give poor little archie a prince-dom but a great child of the monarchs does not get one of those titles. it was a false claim. prince harry said my father cut me off financially but only when

they left the uk, given up their royalty and gone to the west coast so the whole thing, the whole thing was a fabrication. it was for meghan markle an acting performance to emote, to plead with people, that she had victim status. and also saying she suffered badly from mental health problems thought perhaps about taking her own life. the young woman the other night didn't appear to me to have mental health problems but it's shocking that if you attack somebody who claims they have got a mental health problem you're suddenly the villain. i don't want to underplay the importance of mental health but people using it as an excuse to make sure -- >> laura: the bottom line, nigel, you can't claim racism generally, not name anybody, and then just kind of go like this an say thanks, oprah, for the interview. you cannot do that but she did

it and got away with it because she's in the elite club. they cover for each other. they protect one another and then they sign lucrative deals and then we're supposed to cry all the way to the bank for them? it's ridiculous and it's demeaning to true discrimination and hardship of all these people suffering around the world and here in the united states. it doesn't sit well, i think, with a lot of folks who want them to have great lives and be happy. i doesn't sit well with folks, i don't think but you're not going to be surprised, nigel, that hillary clinton weighed in on the big markle drama. >> the british tabloids, their cruelty in going after meghan was just outrageous. this is 2021, and she wanted to live her life. it was heartbreaking to see the two of them sitting there, having to describe how difficult it was to be accepted.

>> laura: nigel, considering how the british press treats you, we expect to see you sitting down with oprah sometime soon, you'll be given the same treatment, right? how did you feel, nigel, when they attacked you? how did you feel when they called you 1234 oh, i've been called all the names under the sun but then i challenged the establishment. meghan arrived in the uk, had a fairy tale wedding, country took her to heart, the press were gushing with praise about her. i tell you when the criticism started. it started when she and harry started lecturing us on carbon emissions and climate change, yet flying around the world in private jet. frankly, and you know what the british press are like, the printed press, everybody in public life gets a tough time in the uk. nobody as tough as me but everyone gets a tough time. and again, hillary clinton saying, all she wanted to do was live her life. no.

she married into the royal family. she married into what we call the firm. she married into a job. >> laura: she knew what she was getting into, nigel, and she have googled out to curtsy. the idea that the uk government through an agent called off com with investigate and prevent tv personalities from expressing opinions is terrifying. what's even more terrifying is the american left is absolutely envious of wielding this kind of power. now, this isn't speculation. just last month house democrats featured a so-called journalism professor spouting anti-american nonsense. >> honestly, you can apply pressure hopefully to the platform companies to allow much greater auditing what broadcasting is and the digital age. that has to be willed among the political elite, the media elite

and the technology elite, to do the right thing. >> laura: joining me now is missouri senator josh hawley. senator, right is mocked for being concerned about this, but this is crazy. i mean, there is clearly a desire on the part of the so-called liberal elite class to regulate speech and demonize those with whom they disagree. >> they have the ability to do it now, laura. if you look at our country we don't have the regulatory body that they have in the uk but they have big tech and it's the same thing. big tech is in league with the liberals with the democrats. it's the big tech big government alliance. big tech basically does whatever the liberals want. in some ways it's even more efficient because it's the private sector but you see tech bending to the will of their will be -- liberal masters in

washington. donald trump was censored a few weeks ago. and they are doing everything the you canning you regulatory authority is. this new age of censorship is upon us. >> laura: they used to make fun of my old book "shut up and sing," how could you say shut up and sing? but they are literally cancelling the former president of the united states on one of the biggest social media platforms in the world. i mean, we forget about that. you may not like him but the fact that the former president still cannot post on twitter. it's shameful. >> and he was the sitting president at the time. i mean, at the time twitter, facebook, instagram, all these platforms, the sitting president of the united states, and as you said, laura, they have extended their ban and they have done that to many other conservatives throttling down their circulation or just outright de

plat forming them and this goes back to the left loves big corporations, they love tech, they love this corporate power. they love it because they can control it. this is the big story of our time. the left and the big corporate power are in league together and that's how they intend to basically exert social control over the country. they need to say we're not going to roll over and let you destroy the first amendment and whatever happened to free and fair competition in tech and in every other sector. that's why we need to break these businesses up. >> laura: it should have been done when the republicans had the house and the senate but they were all married to big tech as well. you wrote a letter toe biden saying in part there was a crisis on the southern borders. i urge you to immediately send the dh secretary to congress to testify to the senate homeland security governmental affairs committee. senator, what do you expect to

get from him? he's obviously in agreement that this is an evolving situation, it's a challenge but not a crisis. >> we can't use that word crisis. meanwhile, we've got worder encounters what the border control o patrol calls it. it tripled this month a year ago at this time. triple. there has been a big change between last year and this year and that change is joe biden and what we're seeing is this administration's policies are acting as a manager net -- magnet and creating a fuel blown humanitarian crisis. the exploitation is through the roof and this administration is doing nothing looking the other way. as you say, the president, he won't even have a news conference. he won't answer any questions at all. the least he can do is actually send his administration chiefs to capitol hill and make them answer questions. what are they going to do about this crisis, and this looking the other way is not a policy. >> laura: if you've been watching biden over the last few

weeks are you concerned about his mental competence and watching how he's dealing with reporters or not dealing with him? >> i'm really concerned about the fact he won't answer questions. it's bizarre. >> laura: just looking at him, you've been around older people, we all have been, we've all had aging parents. are you concerned? >> yes. i think that the fact, laura, this is a guy who is the president of the united states and he apparently cannot have a single media availability where he's not staffed with handlers who will let him answer a single unplanned question, and let alone actually have a real press conference, that's very telling and it's very concerning, and it extends all the way through this administration. yes, i am concerned. i'm concerned about their policy direction. i'm concerned with what they are doing at the border and i'm concerned about his ability to answer questions and provide leadership. it's time for him to answer some tough questions, and to actually show he's ready to do this job and take care of the border, among many other things. >> laura: senator, great to see

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coordinated for the southern border. roberta jacobson. first she tried to blame the mess on the trump administration. >> biden has made clear from day one that he wants to change our immigration system. doing so means truly building back better, because we can't just undo four years of the previous administration's actions overnight. >> laura: oh, my god. build back, there is that phrase again but the excuses didn't stop there. she picked up right where general psaki left off yesterday. >> we know how to get money to communities that are most likely to send migrants but also that are suffering the greatest effect of two hurricanes. >> laura: you got it? hurricanes from several months ago are responsible for the current chaos. that's what she was referencing there but this gaffe.

>> you cannot come through irregular means. that leads me to want to reiterate as i did before. [speaking in spanish] >> laura: this administration's policy is as confused as the ambassador to the southern border. >> former chief-of-staff and jose -- who is a former obama official and former dnc press secretary. as a former press secretary yourself, how can you spin what's going on at the border given that kids tonight are sleeping on cement floors, which is what they complained about the trump administration doing? >> look, laura, first and foremost there is no question that this is challenging. you know this happens year after year, with obama. there is nothing new here.

look, i get it. the republicans are upset. they are losers, they lost but they have got to look for something, to make sure bide isn't the bad guy. they can't do it -- >> laura: jose, just one small fact. one small fact. this is a -- talking over me isn't going to change the fact, okay, this is not me, this is, i believe, the a.p. reporting, this is a 20-year surge. okay. this hasn't happened for 20 years, so i know you don't like trump, i'm not wild about biden but the facts are the facts. okay? so that's the problem we're dealing with here. we have a major humanitarian crisis, and, you know, your experience at hhs, as chief-of-staff there, and, you know, you're going to run for congress in texas, so how are you going to deal with this issue if the biden

administration will not? >> a couple of things on that, laura, and thanks for having me. i happened to note that your guest used that word again, challenge, when the word that you just used is the word that's right, biden won't use it either, this is a crisis, fall blown humanitarian and public health crisis on the southern border of the united states and it's one of joe biden's own making. when the trump administration were in, we solved it once and for all. we said if you want to come to the united states and make an asylum claim you can do that but you've got to remain in mexico. biden trashed policy and further, the agency that i oversaw we used our public health authority to actually lock down the border, not just to illegal immigration but also to covid-19. we said we're in the middle of a full-blown public health emergency. the last thing we need 20 doing for this country is to let the border be completely wide open, flooding in thousands upon

thousands of immigrants while bringing covid-19 into the country. >> laura: jose said this about the administration's immigration policy. >> do you believe this is a limit into how many of these unaccompanied minors we can place in the united states? >> well, i'm not sure, chuck, that that's the question. the real question is, what are they fleeing from? they present themselves at our border. we're not going to turn an unaccompanied minor around. >> laura: jose, problem is, that's being seen by the migrants and they have said so on camera, as an open invitation to come to the country, and that doesn't also help the human traffickers making all the dough by bringing them up. >> i agree with you, laura, the messaging has to be clear and strong. we're a nation of immigrants but we're a nation of laws and we've got to continue to tough on the border, and bring more money to secure the border but at the same time we've got to reform our immigration system

altogether. obviously you and i know, the republicans didn't get that done unfortunately. look, there is a challenge at the border. if you want to call it crisis, i don't really care what you call it. it's a problem that has to be fixed. i get it. all of a sudden as soon as bide isn't doing well, as soon as we're about to sign, the president is about to sign the american rescue plan and send checks, $1400 to millions of americans now republicans all of a sudden say it's a huge cries. they are trying to score political points. they don't really care what's happening. they don't care what's happening at the border. >> laura: jose, do you think that illegal immigrants should get checks or any financial assistance if they are currently living in the united states illegally? >> illegally, they are not going to get checks, laura. >> laura: i'm asking you, do you think they should because a lot of people, democrats actually think they should get various

benefits among emergency care? >> moderate centrists democrats, i have never seen that happen. i have never seen that point being put forth. the answer is americans need to get the checks. americans that need it the most. middle class americans, those are the people that need the money. >> laura: right. but what i don't think americans need are people coming into the country with covid, at a time when we have millions of people out of work, so brian, i'll end with you, what are republicans going to do given the fact you don't have the majority in either house, and you have potentially several hundred thousand people approaching our southern border this year, and effectively being waved into the country. what do you do? >> it's a great question, laura. we gave joe biden the most secure border this country has ever seen and he's torn up every success we had. here's one thing we can do. i wish i were the attorney general of a southern border state. maybe ken paxton in texas or

some other attorney general is watching. they are tearing up our title 42 order which shut down the border to illegal immigrants and covid-19 but they are doing so in a way that's flatly illegal. someone needs to challenge this in court. i firmly believe they would win because they can't talk out of both sides of their mouth. the order still stands but their behaving arbitrarily. there is something we could do. i hope somebody brings this to court. >> laura: all right. thank you, gentlemen, for coming on. here is the question. why is the 25th amendment ever brought up for joe biden? raymond arroyo investigates in "seen and unseen" next.

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>> laura: it's time for "seen and unseen" segment where we reveal the stories behind the headlines. for that we turn to raymond arroyo, author of the just released "the thief who stole

heaven." we've been way ahead of the curve reporting joe biden's cognitive difficulties but it seems to be getting worse. >> there is always a chance we won't count unexpected challenges or a new need for a vaccine effort or vaccination effort. your companies have been working closely -- bragged about -- jeff is in the front row here. i was telling the gentleman, we were at a facility yesterday, a veteran's outreach, and there were four -- there were three members of the veterans community getting shots. one was getting each of the three vaccines. >> laura, this is pitiful. i mean, look, at this point biden presents more of a danger to the west wing than champ and whatever the dog's name is. i'm getting like joe but when you're the president, laura, you have to make somebody that decisions. you have to be on top of the

news. you have to know who the people working with you are to deploy them and if you watch biden closely, when the staff isn't running the press out of the room you'll notice he collapses into this repetitive, it's almost a jingle of emotive talk. watch this from the hardware store the other day. >> we're going to get through this. we're going to get through this. >> he just says it over and over again. we heard this on the campaign for weeks, laura so they give him these very scripted events and then he repeats himself in this way. i don't know how he's going to hold this meeting with world leaders on friday, or tour. he's going to pennsylvania to sell his plan. we'll see how this goes in the days ahead loop. whether or not or clutching the mask. saves lives. not a political statement. he has that mask. that's like a clutch. the mask. raymond, there is a lot of

outrage over disney plus's decision to wall off some of the classic movies, movies like dumbo and peter pan are being singled out. >> laura, the good news is they are not editing or cutting these movies. they are walling them off from younger viewers which tells you they are embarrassed or somehow they don't think these films should be viewed by everybody. this is part of the disney cannon. these aren't some side projects and my problem is, what's next? is captain hook going to get cited because he's not a good representative of people with prosthetics? where do you draw the line and if you want to look at national cultures being used in a stereotypical way, look no further than "it's a small world." the attraction disney built. look, these were created at a certain time in our history. this is how people saw various nationalities. we have to put it into context, share it with young people, tell them why these depictions have

changed. otherwise, we're going to see this repeated. let's warn them an walk them through it but there is a lot of good here to throw out -- >> laura: i remember when i got stuck on "it's a small world" for an hour once and the puppets went back and forth. even peppy, looney tunes character, is being cut, and the "new york times" columnist charles blow says the character contributes to, and i kid you not, rape culture. >> laura, who made charles blow the connoisseur of skunk romance? where did this happen? look, peppy was this cute cast, a little overbearing, he chased down cats and even male dogs trying to find companionship. he was based on charles -- a character actor, friend, he

appeared in a film called algiers. watch this. >> you're beautiful. that's easy to say. for two years i've been lost, like walking in my sleep. so -- >> you see where they got peppy's voice from. you learn a lot when you take a moment and absorb this rather than just throw it all out as no good. >> laura: raymond, i want to congratulate you on something that we're not going to cancel. it's your new book, just out, "the thief who stole heaven," out in bookstores. who is the thief? >> the thief is the good thief, we hear about every good friday, every easter, i didn't realize there are a lot of historic writings about the background of this good thief so i created an adventure for the whole family. it's redemptive and the message is mercy endures forever and none of us are ever given up on and that's the message we all need to consider particularly at this moment when so many people are suffering. the thief who stole heaven, he's

the first guy who broke through the gates before apostles, popes, or anybody else and i thought we should capture this for families. >> laura: raymond, congratulations. the thief who stole heaven in bookstores everywhere and at the start of covid there were certain leaders who saw this crisis as a chance for fame but now their stars are falling. why fauci and friends, well, their power and their thirst for it has begun to backfire. >> their reputation, their insight, your advantage. >> do you ever cover financial news. >>

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. >> laura: now from the beginning of the pandemic, can you believe it was a year ago, "the angle" warned you that certain heroes of today were frauds. they were interested in seizing power and hanging on to it as long as possible. but now that the science shows we're approaching herd immunity, people's ulterior motives are becoming clearer. first, california governor newsom. even with the virus fading we still doesn't want you to get your old life back. >> when this pandemic ends, and it will end soon we aren't going to go back to normal. i think we all agree, normal was never good enough. normal accepts inequity so our journey back must also be a path to close those inequities. there is no economic recovery,

no economic recovery without economic justice. >> laura: it was never about the virus, was it? and justice, tell that to the countless businesses and kids' lives you destroyed due to your covid edicts. and then there is fauci. after lecturing us about following the science, he's coming clean? >> what's the science behind not saying it's safe for people who have been vaccinated, to receive two doses to travel? >> you know, that's a very good question, and the cdc is carefully heading in that direction. they want to get science, they want to get data and when you don't have data or evidence then you've got to make a judgment call. >> laura: a judgment call? well, that nicely sums up what his guiding light has been this whole time. we're just guessing at this

point. alex, that last statement was stunning. basically saying, we don't know, so we just say whatever we need to say. >> honestly, it was stunning in its honesty. the truth is, all of this is a judgment call. the truth is, that a year ago, we thought briefly that this virus was much more dangerous than it's turned out to be. there were estimates that the death rate from infection might be one, two, three percent, which would have been hundreds of millions of people around the world potentially dying, up to 10 million americans die if it were 3%. it's turned out to be much lower than that. there is a new paper in the british medical journal that said in britain, in people over 30, who are more at risk, it was about .25%. that's one in 400. so we know this virus is much less dangerous than we initially thought and what that should have led to over the last 12

months is an understanding that we didn't need the society destroying and school closing measures. >> laura: that's obvious. >> these restrictions that have warped our society. instead of backing down, people like fauci are doubling down. >> laura: and for newsom to admit what we've been criticized for saying now for 10 months, 11 months, that this was in some part never really about the virus. they still have the virus as an opportunity to cram down climate change, all these other things, racial injustice, equity, he's saying it. blatantly saying we're not going back to the old normal, so -- we were promised normal and we're not getting it. >> it is amazing to hear him say that. there is this recall election potentially on the horizon and he decided to go to the left and in the to the right.

that he's openly saying, i don't think we're going to get back to normal is very strange. i mean to me, what we should be saying is, the vaccines, you know, they are likely to do some good but they are not 95% effective. that's pretty cheer from the data out of israel so we're going to have to live with this. we'll learn to live with. this you will get your lives back and we should be happy about that. instead, you know, they are going the other way. the vaccines, you know, you have to get the vaccine because it's completely effective and yet it changes nothing. i don't understand the messaging at all. >> laura: when they lose the crisis they lose their power. they need the crisis to continue. never let a crisis end, okay? that's the new mantra. now, former covid adviser for biden, michael osterhom made an astounding claim over natural immunity. >> you get much more protection from the vaccine than you do from having the illness itself and developing your own natural

immunity. the question will be just how long does the immunity system stay in a place where it can, in fact, fight off the next infection? >> laura: quick answer, does the data support that conclusion? >> that's a technical question, but the answer is broadly no. and the w.h.o. a few months ago said that we could get to herd immunity with a combination of natural immunity, recovery from infection and vaccines, they quietly changed that to say only vaccine immunity counted. the politics of vaccines are, we could do a whole segment on that. >> laura: we will for sure because big money and big promises. alex, thank you so much. did you hear about the bargain that the l.a. teachers unions reach to reopen the schools? turns out it was a fraud. >> in a recent clin and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas. it's good medicine.

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