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and rachel. >> a father has been accused of dropping his toddler inside his elephant habitat at the san diego zoo. but first, fox news has learned that customses and border rex is considering releasing illegal border crossers into the without a court date. a source revealing that, quote: border patrol has no choice but to release people nearly immediately of after apprehension because there is no space to hold people, even to do necessary paperwork. now, this comes as migrant children continue to come into our country at a rate of about 600 per day and more than 15,000 are now reportedly in u.s. custody. the biden administration is scrambling to do damage control as the crisis worsens. but homeland security secretary al happen degree mayorkas -- alejandro mayorkas insisting they have the situation under control. listen. >> the border is secure, the border is closed. we've been unequivocal in that,

and we are operatallizing our processes, executing our plans. we are a nation of laws, and we treat vulnerable children humanely. we can do it and we are doing it. >> well, as you can imagine, this statement met fierce if resistance from republicans including arkansas senator tom cotton. >> the border is wide open. there are reports now that customs and border patrol may be simply if start processing people into the cup without even giving them a notice to appear in court. and, of course, all of these bogus asylum claims are taking up some resources at the border, we have increased threats, drug trafficking or persons on on the terror watch list crossing the border. >> and compounding the crisis is the risk of reversing the progress we've made on combating the covid pandemic. texas governor greg abbott revealed the growing number of covid-19 outbreakses at these migrant facilities. >> in cariso springs, we learned

there is an outbreak of covid in that location. a report by the associated press showed that about 10% of the kids at that location tested positive for covid. to have these open border policies at a time during a pandemic is a total disaster not just for texas, but for the entire country. >> and there don't appear to be any signs of this crisis slowing down anytime soon as i.c.e. just signed an $86.9 million contract for hotels near the border to house over 1200 migrant families. so there is certainly a lot to up pack there. so let's start with that, that new information, ari. this is in a saichtion from i.c.e. that short-term contract is going to provide beds and other necessary services that the families will receive a comprehensive health assessment that includes covid-19 testing. now, as you guys know, our griff jenkins has been down at the border for weeks. i was texting with him just

about an hour ago. he said, jillian, do not forget, this is a government contract. taxpayers are footing this bill. when you put it in perspective like that, ari, what is your reaction? [laughter] >> you know, it's been reported that it costs $750 a day to detain these migrants at these certains? the ritz carlton in georgetown is half the price. why is it so expensive? what on earth? and, you know, this notion about we're releasing people onto the streets, three weeks ago it was reported in yuma, arizona, that they'd already released 350 migrants into the streets of yuma, and one of the mayors said by the spring it's going to be thousands. so this is nothing new, releasing people. they had to do it three weeks ago. look, this is what happens when you stop building the wall, when you end the remain in mexico programs and when you stop deportations. when you do all that and people see you can get into america, the border is open, it is the

out of control, more people will come. it's just human nature. it's logical, it's the result of bad policy. >> rachel, secretary mayorkas a said earlier today on fox news that this entire system was dismantled by the previous administering, that the previous administration, quote, didn't handle the needs of children in a humane way. what's your response to that? >> you know, it just makes my hair light on fire hearing that, that they continue to push this narrative that somehow their policy is humane. i talked to border patrol sources who have told me that, you know, basically the cartels have said they make more money trafficking children and humans than they do job drugs. -- do drugs. the american government and its policies are now complicit in human trafficking. and, again, think about how traumatizing this is for children. not only are they being used by their parents and others to get across the border because we know that our policies require us to do certain things with them and allow them to stay, but

now we see they're overcrowded, there's covid. and also people come to pick them up who claim to be their participants, who claim to be their aunts, their uncles. we're actually releasing children to people that we don't know who they are. and they could be then further traumatizing these children into sex trafficking. in addition to that, we know that the prices to come across the border have increased because the demand has increased. so many people can't afford to pay the money up front. they're basically indenturedder is availabilities once they get to our country. what is going on? and, again, we must push back because they are doing this all under the auspices that somehow they're more humane. there is nothing humane, and the children are the victims, jillian. >> and, lawrence, as we have talked about at length, you know, we're not getting access -- and not just fox news, anybody -- reporters and photographers aren't getting access to see some of these facilities, and a lot of people are questioning that. rightfully so.

secretary mayorkas earlier today also said they're working on providing footage so that the american public can see the border patrol stations. that is a direct quote. lawrence, you spent time at the border, you've been in some of these facilities. i'm curious what you would not have been able to see and what information you were not able to relate to the public if you were not granted that access. and by the fact that they're saying they're working on providing footage, they'll be able to show you what they want you to see. >> well, that's exactly right. and this is tippling call joe biden politics right9 now. they decided they were going to keep him in a bunker most of the time and not allow us the ask tough questions on the campaign trail. but back then the media gave him a pass because he was their guy. now that he's in office, now that he's accountable to the american public and we need to know what's happening, they are trying to manage this by showing us what they want us to see. but i've got to tell you, it was

very frustrating hearing the secretary say that the border is secure and it's closed. i mean, are you kidding me? we've been covering this for weeks, people coming across the border. the facilities are full. and so to see the delusional messaging coming out of the white house when you have wall to wall coverage not just from fox news, by the way. cnn and msnbc are showing it as well. the problem is accountability. when is the press going to start holding a biden administration accountable just like they did with the trump administration? you can love or hate donald trump, but at least we had access. we could ask as many questions as we want, we had access to the president of the united states when he would go into a helicopter or a plane, or just golfing we had access to the president. it's one thing to criticize policy, but it's another thing to criticize the actual evidence that we see right now. it's shameful that there hasn't

been enough pushback on this administration that promised they were going to to have the most transparent administration, there was going to be this return to order. >> and, ari, based off your experience in working inside an administration, what goes into a decision like that? you have to know you're going to get backlash, right? [laughter] >> it's real simple, can you get away with it. i mean, up the times are when you make these decisions because it's in the political best short-term interest of the white house, but then you get the pushback from the press corps, and if they're pushback starts to dominate, you start to get hammered. you have to back off of it. i think it's a democratic biden calculation that they can continue to get away with things because they did through the whole campaign, as lawrence talked about. so when the press doesn't hold them accountable, they just say we can continue to slide, continue to push outside the norm to, ban cameras, ban tv,

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♪ i'm out of my mind thinking i ws born in the wrong time -- ♪ one of a kind. >> welcome back to "the big sunday show." the return of donald trump to social media may be on the horizon. the former president was banned from twitter, among other platforms, following the january 6th capitol riot. but trump's senior adviser jason miller says trump will be back soon and in a big way. watch. >> i do think that we're going to see president trump returning to social media probably in about two or three months here with his own platform. and this is something that i think will be the hottest ticket in the social media. it's going to completely redefine the game, and everybody is going to be waiting and watching to see what exactly president trump does. but it will be his own platform.

>> jillian, i've got to come to you first because i think the media somehow, they miss donald trump. he was great for the their ratings, he was a great cover every single day, there was always something. i had my twitter alerts set for him because he changed the news cycle. so from your position, is this must-see tv for the media? >> i mean, think so. must have been difficult to be out with you like at a meal -- [laughter] constantly probably to going off. [laughter] look, he changed the news cycle every single day, multiple times a day with a click of that tweet button, right? so i think that those who support him, obviously, are going to be waiting with bathed breath for -- baited breath for this to happen. we will find out. you know, he's still a strong voice for the republican party, a lot of people argue the strongest, so they're going to want to hear from him. those who oppose him also want to hear from him because it's going to give them a lot more to talk about.

>> ari, aye got to ask you this. did these companies make a big mistake? he was the number one customer. people went to these platforms, whether they want to admit it or not, they may have hated the guy, but it was must-see tv for them as well. they wanted to know what was he going to do next. from a business standpoint, did they make a major mistake, and now he's creating his own thing in. >> no, because it's all in service to a cause. and the higher cause was getting donald trump out of office. that's really what it became. they did not make a business decision, they did not make a selfish decision, they made a political decision because that was their highest priority, get him out of there, get biden in. i'll also add this, lawrence. i was said this about donald trump when he was on twitter. the fact that he's going to come back, if indeed he does, it's a double-edged sword. if he uses it to point out all

the weaknesses and mistakes joe biden is making on the border, with the economy, etc., then president trump's going to do a real service to this country and to the republican cause. but if he says pejorative things, if he says what he said about mika brzezinski, what he said to stormy daniels, calls her horse face, don't insult people. don't use your platform as an ex-president to say pejorative things that hurt yourself, the party and the cause. >> so quick follow-up -- >> it's not the medium, it's the message. >> quick follow-up. so do you think the president, former president, being off twitter somehow benefits him? because you don't have to worry about his tweets anymore, you just look at the trump economy, what he was able to do, the list of other things. >> well, you know, there's a value and scarcity sometimes, isn't there? the more scarce something is, the more valuable it is. if you're out there every single moment of every single day,

you're overexposed. if he indeed builds own platform comes back, it'll be a service to the president, the party and the people who believe in him. >> we got the communications standpoint from ari. rachel, let me go to you. as a ribbertarian i just said -- libertarian, i said don't complain about it, to something different. does the president run the race, if he does -- the risk, if he does create this platform, of being taken offline? >> you bring up a great point. and i actually am not a techie person myself, kind of showing my age there. but the phones are google and apple. are they going to allow his app onto their platform, that's a big question. but look, you know, these media companies have disrespected half

the country, those of us who are conservatives, who have been on twitter ask and all these other -- facebook and different platforms. we've been shadow banned, we've had followers who have been removed from us for no apparent reason, and donald trump was censored and taken off the platform as well. i think, if anything, this idea of, you know, we're half the country and somebody whether it's donald trump or anybody coming in and breaking up this monopoly is good for our country. we know we can't continue america that is free and has free speech and allows everyone to edges press themselves and have a marketplace of ideas if we have big tech with the power that they have censoring half the country. so i'm all for it. let the games begin. let's start to introduce some old american capitalist competition into this big tech world. >> yeah, so, jillian with, what about that? you know, traveling around the country talking with all different type of voters, when i talk to the conservatives the

republicans, they feel like there's a concerted earth to remove their voice and they don't have place. there's this concerted effort to dea platform. >> yeah, and few yo do, the last two weeks i traveled to californianess florida and michigan to to do pieces on small business owners one year after the pandemic started. and they have felt like they haven't had a voice, and that's just one part of this story. they feel like they didn't have a voice throughout the pandemic, they don't have a voice when it comes to who they want to support politically in their beliefs, they feel like they don't have a voice online, so a lot of people feel silenced right now. >> it's going to be real interesting as i talk they always say part of the reason how we got trump is because there was the silence of many of americans. they didn't have that voice. and in comes this guy from new york that represents them.

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air. so, lawrence, actually, all three of you, i want you to tick the take out your press credentials. get ready, you're going to be reporters covering the president, i want to know what you're going to ask hum. lawrence, you're smart, you're tough, you're fast on your feet, you could be a white house reporter. what would you ask president biden on thursday? >> yeah, they'd probably kick me out. [laughter] peter doocy's done a great job. anyway, it's very simple, it always goes back to the people. you laid all these folks off because of your energy policy. where are those new energy jobs that you promised, first of all? your tax policy, you said it was only going to affect the rich, right? it's looking like other folks are going to be affected by this. who's going to be paying more if taxes? and lastly, andrew cuomo, big nursing home scandal, we know that he hid numbers and concealed them, should he resign or be prosecuted for that? >> good question.

you could be a reporter. [laughter] rachel, you're much too pleasant and nice to be a white house correspondent -- [laughter] but if you were, what would you ask? >> well, i've never been accused of being a reporter or a journalist, but i will say this, i have two questions. the first is i want to know if he even knows that his border policies have made him and his administration complicit in the drug cartels, human trafficking and child trafficking and child sex trade. so that's the first question i would have for hum. the second is -- and i'm not being cheeky about this -- i want to know if he is the big guy in the e-mails with hunter biden's laptop scandal. and i know that the media and the democrat9s want us all to move on from the hunter biden laptop scandal story, but i do think that it fundamentally changed our election. the censoring of it. and i still think it has huge implications for our relationship with china. i believe that the president is

the big guy in there and, therefore, he is compromised when it comes to china. >> i'll predict you right now two words you'll never hear at that news conference will be hunter biden. jillian, you're a real reporter. what would you ask, and how much preparation do reporters from your point of view put into these news conferences? are they working on their questions already? >> oh, i would be working on this if i were going to be in that room, absolutely. one of the requirements of my job is when i get to talk to people, talk to americans and tell their stories, and i listened when we have, you know, people who live near the border on, we interview them, i listen even when i'm not the one interviewing them because i want to hear what actual americans who are experiencing these things have to say. and you have americans who live near the border talking about how they're up at night, how they're scared for their families and children. you hear mayors, you hear border officials saying this is a rye

sis. so i would -- crisis. so i would want to ask the president, are they lying then? do you not believe them? >> good question. >> because i would want to know what do you say to them incident because you're hearing this from both sides of the aisle, by the way, that this is a crisis. so what do you have to say to them if you were to sit down face to face. that being said, ari -- >> that's why you're good at this. [laughter] >> thank you. you know what? you've been in that room, so i want to turn the tables on you and say what would you ask, or better yet, what questions do you think won't be asked? >> well, you know, it's interesting because, as press secretary, i sweated the questions that would be the hardest hardballs coming straight at the president's head. so we practiced for the ones that were the toughest. if i were with joe biden, i would say here are the toughest ones i don't think anybody's going the ask you these questions. i would start with the media being banned from the southern border. were you aware no cameras

allowed, and will you commit today at this news conference to reverse that policy so cameras will be allowed tomorrow, mr. president, yes or no. i'd go to andrew cuomo, but i don't think anyone's going to ask this and say, mr. president, why don't you believe andrew cuomo when tara reid accused you of sexual harassment, you said she was wrong, so why do you give yourself the benefit of the doubt, but you won't extend that same courtesy to andrew cuomo? i'd turn that one around on him, but again, i don't think they're going to ask him. and finally, i would ask the president about his routine. there's always kind of a softball, what's it like to get to the white house. mr. president, tell me about your routine. what time to you get to the oval office, you are the oldest president in history. winston cur chill told us he -- churchill told us he used to take a nap. do you take a nap, sir? and, of course, i'd be asked if

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he's roaring, and he's coming at, you know, and so the guy -- everybody that's standing around is yelling at this guy to bring his child back, you know? so he comes to the enclosure, and he throws his child -- [laughter] through the fence, onto the ground, you know, and jumps the gate. >> the man dropped his daughter as he fled, but luckily, he was able to pull the girl out of harm's way just in time. so i'm going to go to you first, lawrence. crazy story. but, you know, i'm a mom. my his does a -- my husband does a lot of things that are a little more dangerous than i would do. the most shocking part of the story to me was the mom was there. [laughter] what do you make of that? she let the dad do this. maybe i'm too latin. i would have been yelling and screaming and get back over here! [laughter] >> i mean, i guess maybe it's a culture thing. for me, mama ends up running the

house most days. i guess i always see, my dad was always such a protector of the household. he never took on things like, i mean, an elephant, a bear, something like that. i just don't understand what was going in his mind. was he trying to get this epic photo? did the child beg to be in the enclosure? it just doesn't make any sense to me. i'm curious what was in his system at the time of jumping over. >> well, you bring up, you bring up a great point. i mean, ally, lawrence said maybe he's just trying to get that epic photo. every year we hear about somebody on some cliff somewhere trying to take this great photo and falls off. how much of this is fueled by, you know, just this narcissistic social media era we live in? >> well, i think if this one was driven by that, he would have gotten himself a much better photographer, and you would have

been going live with it. this looked like spontaneous foolishness. but, you know, i think the other thing we all have to learn here is next time we hear greg gutfeld saying animals are great, animals are great, sometimes animals ain't so great, greg. i have no clue. i have -- there are two fences there, if you notice. there's an outer barrier are there's a sidewalk, you're walking along -- and this is the way all the zoos are, right? the area where you go as a pedestrian walking around the zoo. you can't cross that outer barrier. and then there's a no man's land but you're still protected, and then the real fence that separates the wildlife from you. lawrence is on to something, what was the guy's blood alcohol content? >> right. >> i don't know what he was thinking. but -- >> sounds like he was -- >> a dangerous combination. >> sounds like he wasn't thinking. jillian, social media can be very cruel. you know, he was arrested. people are saying, you know, that he should be, you know, charged, that he should have the

child removed from him. do you think that he's probably learned his lesson? he's already been shamed nationally, or do you think that he should face some serious charges for doing this? >> i mean, i'd have to go over details of this more to really even be able to offer info because i don't know the specifics of the case. honestly, i'm kind of speechless. like, i kind of -- i file this in the category of what the heck is going on with people right now because, to lawrence's point, yes, you do have stories that we hear, we do have people we talk about on the news who do these crazy things as you referenced, rachel, for social media. i don't know if it's that. i don't understand why you would take your child to do that. that just seems to beg a lot of questions in itself. but we don't know why this person did this or the circumstances surrounding it right now. so i'm going to try and withhold a little bit of judgment and just say i'm speechless. >> but, rachel, he dropped the baby. [laughter] >> i know.

>> i mean, this guy has no balance. he's the last person that should be taking a child in the enclosure. he dropped the baby. that's the part finish. >> yeah. i think there were people on, the people who were watching were, like, you dropped the baby. i think he was so scared he didn't realize he had dropped the baby, and then he went back -- >> at least we know he's not a coward. >> yep, that's true. [laughter] just a dumb guy. all right, well, we're going to move on. there's a lot of dumb people out on spring break right now. [laughter] thousands of spring breakers are descending on miami beach, prompting the mayor to declare a state of emergency. up next, the measures that police are taking to crack down on the partiers. ♪♪ if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back, inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes

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>> back now with some breaking new. president biden taking questions from reporters on the white house south lawn just moments ago. we are going to have that for you coming up in just a few minutes. we are getting that playback here. in the meantime, we understand, guys, that he did actually talk about making a trip to the southern border. so, lawrence, as we wait for that, as i said in just a few moments, what do you think about that?

>> well, it's about time. maybe he can go down there and see what we've been witnessing firsthand on our television screens for about three weeks. talk that back, ever since he decided that he was going to stop the construction the day after he was sworn in and now up brant grant -- immigrants, illegal immigrants are flooding this border. i hope that when he goes and sees how desperate the business is and the communities, the ranchers that have been impacted by his policies, that he will reverse them. one of the things i want the hear from one of the reporters ask him a lot of folks within the trump white house said they warned the president, the incoming president, about this during the transition. are you going to reverse course on that, and is that true? did they warp you that your policies were going to cause this surge? is. >> let's go ahead and take a listen to president biden. this is on the south lawn just moments ago.

>> [inaudible] >> are you thinking of going to the border? >> at some point i will, yes. >> [inaudible] see what's going on in those facilities? >> i know what's going on in those facilities. >> [inaudible] the migrants, telling them to stay home -- [inaudible] >> [inaudible] from their home countries. thank you. >> when will you allow the media into those facilities? >> back to something you said earlier in the show. you mentioned that they'll do it as long as they can get away with it, and they're not getting away with it now as far as, you know, lack of questions from reporters of all different organizations, right? you heard three questions in a row there from different people

all talking about the border. >> you talking to me, jillian? >> ari. >> okay. >> oh, i'm sorriment yeah, first off, do know it was only three questions, and they were all incredibly brief answers, perfunctory performance. but if he does go to the border, he needs to announce what's going to be different on the border. if he just goes to tour it, to witness it and without saying what is going to change on the worder, then all he's -- border, then all he's doing is touring the damage that he's creating. i'd say you need to have a plan, announce it and then go to the border to sew what's going to improve as a result of what you announced, assuming he can do that will make improvements on the border which i'm doubtful. >> rachel, are you a little surprised he did take those questions? we haven't seen him much off the cuff. >> i think he's within feeling some -- been feeling some pressure. member he was watching our show. listen, he's outside, he's been

vaccinated, take off the mask to we can hear clearly what you're saying. two, i really liked what you had to say earlier, jillian, about it's not just the children who are under very dire circumstances. it is the people in border towns. i have best friends who live in yuma, arizona. i a want him to -- i want him to go and talk to him. those were american jobs building those walls, you know, along our border. he needs to not just go to the facilities, he needs to go into our border facilities. they are americans. they are being directly impacted by his policies. and by the way, how about going to the border before you change it, before you wreck it, before you dishasn't ifing all the policies -- dismantle all the policies that were working under the trump administration, namely, the remain in mexico policy that was disincentivizing people from coming forward because they knew they would get stuck in mexico and not get a free pass into the united states or a hotel room or a trip to

canada or whatever else is happening right now. it's a disaster. he knows it, they're all lying. they're wrapping themselves up in humanitarian policies. where's aoc, by the way, in her white outfit if weeping outside the detention centers during the trump administration? this is a farce. >> jillian? go ahead, lawrence. >> real quick. did you catch the response, the lackadaisical at some point? okay, when? >> i was just going to say that. >> when's the follow up? the crisis is happening now. if we have so much time to get this done, they just announced today based on our report that essentially they were going to be implementing catch and release again because they don't have any room to put them at. so, mr. president, at some point, when is the day? >> and an update from griff jenkins, fox news can confirm that border patrol agents in the rio grande valley are actively processing migrantses without issuing a notice to appear. that means that they depart

custody without a court appearance skippinged for an asylum hearing. there's a lot of new information coming at us every single day right now, and there are a lot of questions that, as you guys know and as we talked about, need answers. so one of those answers that we're wondering is when are you going to go to the border, mr. president, and we'll be waiting, certainly, to hear more about that. ari? >> it's a very good question. he does need to go and, but, like i say, you want to make a plan, you have to have a policy when you get down there. but, you know, i'm just struck by what a incentivization joe biden has provided to bring people across the border. that's what this amounts to. human nature is straightforward. when people see you can get across the border on tv, more people are going to come. so you compare the word of a president who says don't come now to people watching f tv saying, i can go now, what's going to win?

certainly not joe biden's word here. they believe what they see on tv the every day in hair home countries. and one other thing, joe biden talks about how more people stay back in central american countries. you get the sense he's going to put together an aid package in those countries. we don't have enough aid in the world to fix those problems. we can't create enough incentive to keep those people in those countries. the only way you do it is by enforcing the laws at america's border and being strong and is welcoming people here legally which we must always do, but making sure people understand do not even try to come here illegally. you will get stopped, you will get turned around, you will get deported. >> that message certainly not necessarily getting everywhere at this point. but good conversation, guys, and we got that breaking news in, so we'll be right back with more. y fresh for weeks? now they can! this towel has already been used and it still smells fresh.

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still a legend. just more legendary. chevrolet. making life's journey, just better. jillian: . lawrence: welcome back, the party is over in miami beach after a chaotic couple of weeks. the city is cracking down on out-of-control spring breakers issuing an 8:00 p.m. curfew to clear a state of emergency and deplane a swat team to clear people out. the sitters mayor warning that the situation has spiraled out of control. >> our city right now in this area has become a tinder and we cannot have a policy hoping that

it's not lit. we have to act before one of those incidences happen. we cannot act in the wake of something. lawrence: jillian, i will go to you first. as someone who is been sent by the channel to cover spring break for the last two years it always gets out of control. jillian: yeah, i haven't done spring break in miami so i can't speak to that but i was in florida two weeks ago doing stories on small businesses down there and i will tell you i did not see that but i was pleasantly surprised down there to see a lot of people had their masks on willingly and sitting at restaurants and being responsible and it bothers me when you some people ruining things for all and by that i mean there are curfews and place are now and some of these some of these restaurants and assessments are now shutting down completely for the meantime until things can get under control. tourists and hotel guests being told to stay indoors drinker for hours and i know in florida a lot of restaurants and businesses had been opened and had more opportunities available

to them than the majority people in the country the last year but you still have people, and i talked to some of them, who moved to florida from other states to get work and now you restaurants that can't do their job so you feel for the business owners and some are still struggling. lawrence: i feel for the business owners. i feel for the community that made these bad apples they can't control their liquor while on spring break but there is a part of this though and some of the criticism has been they are out there doing spring break in the midst of covid. it was two weeks to slow the spread and this month they just want freedom. >> i agree with everything jillian said but however, i have hope left for america. we been locked down for so long and we still have that rebelliousness and we are still questioning authority and we are not taking government orders and i think all of us realize that a lot of covid rules are overwrought and so look, i am

older than you and come from the mtv era of spring break and so i was a little bit basaltic about it and we were not quite as wild and torquing but let me tell you, there is nothing new under the sun and this is all been done before. lawrence: the torquing got me. >> that is your generation. >> i will take accountability and i want to go to you because there is this theme when it comes to florida and they call desantis now after months of saying he was a bad guy and they want him to die but there are conservatives that a become to him america's governor because he is a person for freedom and letting people decide and i just came back from oklahoma and they feel the same way. what are your thoughts? >> first, to set the record straight when my generation went to spring break mtv did not even yet exist so that's how long

ago. >> where did you go to spring break? [laughter] >> that's classified. i do not have to tell you max or go back on that please. [laughter] >> as for governor desantis, it's interesting how the worm has turned. he was berated subject into the worst type of coverage despite her new york and new jersey were the real states that did things wrong in florida because it wanted to protected seniors will keeping the economy opening did things right. cnn especially went hard after desantis and now we are seeing that there is, florida's right smack in the middle of the statistics and the amount of deaths in the nursing homes with their elderly were disproportionate is nowhere even close to new york's in new jersey's. so the governor the santos did a lot right and the press will answer him anyway and to his credit he is now giving the credit that he is due for keeping that economy open. if you are a waiter or waitress and if you work in any kind of

industry like that you should be grateful to still have a job and then you do have one import of. lawrence: , freedom wins. you can catch jillian on fox, rachel and fox and friends, jon scott is heating up next door for the fox reports. jon. jon: fox news confirming within the past hour that the border patrol in the rio grande valley has begun taking the unprecedented step of releasing illegal immigrants without notice to appear in court. good evening, i'm jon scott and this is the fox reports. ♪♪ jon: we are also learning that officials are now encountering close to 600 unaccompanied minors every day and the number of children in u.s. custody reportedly topping 15000 as the surge of the border shows no signs of slowing down meanwhile, fighting a ministration is defending its immigration policy