media fails to ask why he and kamala harris used it so often. >> bret: that's a theme for you today. all right. thank you all, thanks, panel. thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. "fox news primetime" hosted by brian kilmeade starts right now. hey, brian. >> brian: i know the notre dom must end to your show. the only prediction i will have take from mr. t rockie 3 pain. go get them, bret. >> bret: all right. >> brian: brian kilmeade here welcome to "fox news primetime." ♪ >> brian: all right. tonight, we know why president joe biden waited 64 days to hold a press conference. >> when i was united states senator, i mean, vice president -- if holds near and dear to you that you like to be able to -- anyway. am i giving you too long an answer? because if you don't want the

answer? >> no, no. but i mean i don't know how much detail you want about immigration. >> do you agree? >> yes. >> if not, why not abolish it if it's a relic of the jim crow era. >> successful art of politics is the art of the impossible. you have the right code for your credit card, you know, what was your dog's name? okay. hang on. sorry. oh,. >> brian: he had a list and he had notes. thankfully, it wasn't just dead air and stumbling. the president fielded questions from the press on a number of hot button topics for more than an hour. unfortunately he ran out of time to call on fox news' own peter doocy. i guess peter will have to wait another 64 days. he is going to make peter a bigger story when he finally gets a question. the two big themes the american border crisis and will we take -- which will take up with steven miller in just a moment. and ending that filibuster which will never go away, it seems. the president telling

republicans to get in line with his radical agenda or else they are going to divide the country. >> i think my republican colleagues are going to have to determine whether or not we want to work together or they decide that the way in which they want to proceed is to -- is to just -- um, decide -- divide the country. >> brian: right. he will get to it. i guess it means that the g.o.p. won't play ball, biden more hand hinted is he ready to use that nuclear option, ending the senate filibuster. >> it's being abused in a gigantic way. we amended the filibuster in the past. but here's the deal, as you observed, i'm a fairly practical guy. i want to get things done. i want to get them done consistent with what we promised the american people and in order to do that in a 50/50 senate, we have got to the get place where i get 50 votes so that the vice

president of the united states can break the tie or i get 451 votes without her. >> brian: right. i follow that but america's immigration disaster took center stage this afternoon. the press peppering biden with questions about his administration's inability to handle the growing surge of migrants at our southern border. how we process the thousands of unaccompanied minors packed into cbp shelters? what we do with them coming from and what is he going to do to stop them? does he realize where they are coming from? s did he realize they are coming here because of him? guess what he does realize and he is flattered. >> well, look, i guess i should be flattered people are coming because i'm the nice guy. that's the reason why it's happening that i'm a decent man or however it's phrased. that's why they're coming. >> you blamed the last administration but is your messaging in saying that these children are and will be allowed to stay in this country and work their way through this process encouraging families like joe sows to come?

>> well, look -- the idea that i'm going to say, which i would never do, if an unaccompanied child end up at the border we will let them starve together and stay on the other side, no previous administration did that either, except trump. i'm not going to do it. >> brian: can you imagine that? except trump there were 16513 unaccompanied minors right now in this country. steven miller, former senior adviser to the president of the united states speech writing architect, a lot of the immigration policy joins us now. steven, did you let little kids die? >> what joe biden said at that press conference is a detestable lie. it's not just a smear against president trump. it's a smear against the patriotic border agents who saved the lives who rescued unaccompanied minors and get them safely back home. that was our policy. if you came here assay a 15-year-old from honduras and

border patrol apprehended you, they would then process you, put you on a chartered flight, paid for by the u.s. government, send you back to your home country, meet up with social services in honduras, work with our state department to get you back with your own family. joe biden is separating these families, stranding them in the united states, and sending the message not just to central america, brian, but to the whole world that if you split off your family, if you send someone here 17 or younger alone, they will stay here for life. >> brian: steven, what's so amazing, i'm not sure he knows his own policy. he was asked in the scenario would you send that child home if their mom sent them here because america was open? he goes no, if their mom was there i would fly them home. that's not the policy. you come here, you get to stay. he has got to tell jen psaki that. they show one a note in their pocket they get to say.

since when, steven, are you allowed to keep the press out of the facilities let them into one that looks sanitized. is that allowed? >> no. a couple things there. number one, his administration in writing terminated the reunification policy we had in place to send unaccompanied minors back to their home countries wherever they may come from. and that's why last year we had record low numbers of unaccompanied minors in custody. because we weren't releasing them. he terminated that policy in writing. that's not in dispute. i guess he doesn't know or his staff is lying to him so that he then can mislead the country. as for access to facilities, his answer that he will give people access once his mystical plan is in place, this plan that no one has ever heard of that no one knows what's in it and no one knows what it is going to do, isn't transparency it's a cover-up. you are saying unless and until i am ready you won't get to see what's going on. i cannot believe the media is going along with that brian brian said you are going to be

transparent. let us into the facilities yeah i just don't know. when why is that allowed? real quick, he says you guys took down all the facilities that allowed you to store these people there and give them the accommodations they deserve. did you take counsel the infrastructure? >> no. far from it. we built a safe orderly humane infrastructure to accomplish the end goal of border security. which, an orderly return and removal to the place you come from. we didn't need surge facilities to hold tens, hundreds of thousands of people the way that we are going because we had a process for returning them be it to mexico, central america, or elsewhere. he dismantled that process, invited the surge, and now he has nowhere to put them. >> brian: he wants to talk about his $1.9 trillion. he wants to talk about $1,400 in everyone's pocket. those are not the issues. the issues are the immigration story and also voter, hr 1. what's happening in a lot of states they are tightening up their rules when it comes to

signature verification and just identification, maybe a picture i.d. that's what's happening in georgia. it was chronicled enlisted by some as racist. here is the newest senator, senator warnock talking about what's happening in georgia where they are going to give you four days now for early voting and ask for a reason when it comes out to voting and ask for i.d. listen to what senator warnock says. >> they are using the lie about voter fraud as a pretext for voter suppression. this is jim crow reduction in new clothes. there is no reason for this. what we saw was black voters all across the country standing up, other voters of color, young people, women, students, and they made a difference in the election. >> brian: is this jim crow redux and is hr 1 going to purify the system. >> it's so insulting to every

citizen of this country to say that it's a civil rights violation to ask somebody for an i.d. to vote. you need an i.d. in this country to rent a car, to cash a check, depending on your age, to buy liquor. for the sacred franchise, the idea that we cannot have a simple identity confirmation request, by the way, that is even more important now that biden is letting in hundreds of thousands of people unvetted, unchecked, unauthorized. how do we make sure they are not going to be voting in our next election? you do that with voter i.d. it's suspicious that democrats suddenly decided that voter i.d. violates civil rights. i think it's because they want people who aren't citizens voting in our elections. >> brian: those right wing states called california, virginia, and nevada all require a photo i.d. and social security number. i want you to hear what governor kemp just said on this channel about that accusation that it's unamerican and jim crow redux, listen. >> he obviously doesn't realize

what's in the final version of the georgia bill. he has probably been reading things on twitter from people that are fundraising saying that we are restricting or limiting in georgia. that's not the case. we are securing the vote. i think most people want that, whether they're democrat, republican, or somewhere in between. everybody wants to have confidence in the election. >> brian: this is very important because states should be the states' rights thing is in the constitution. if you are going to federalize elections, that's not going to stand up to a constitutional test. but if hr 1 passes that's exactly what will happen and that's what they're debating on the senate floor today. final thought? >> this is not a partisan issue. every citizen has the right to have their franchise protected to make sure their vote isn't canceled out by someone who is not authorized to vote. voter i.d. is just plain old fashioned common sense. and i, like most americans, am tired of the poo gus racism allegations that are used to

block basic reforms to protect voter integrity. >> brian: and signature verification protects your vote, too. same thing in colorado. they have signature verification. they throw out one of every 112 ballots. i'm pretty sure that's bright blue. steven miller, i think your point is taken. i can tell you are fired up. even though it ended at 2:00, you had to stay calm until 7:00. >> yes. >> brian: i appreciate your composure. >> i held it in place. >> brian: thank you very much. should be interesting to hear what the president has to say tonight to lara ingraham. coming up on our show, i should tease out. will he ever be satisfied how is he shooting down science to suggest herd immunity is here. why fauci's denial ignores reality. that story is straight ahead. so is he. ♪ ♪ r members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage.

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>> now today i'm setting a second goal, and this is we will by my 100th day in office have administered 200 million shots in people's arms. that's right. 200 million shots in 100 days. i know it's ambitious, twice our original goal, but no other country in the world has even come close. brian brian right. the president did not get any questions after he opened up with pandemic news we're going to talk about it. president biden today announcing his goal of 200 million shots in the arms of first 100 days, that's great. with increased vaccinations when can we expect to get this so-called herd immunity depends on when you ask. dr. fauci says need to vaccinate 75 to 80% of the population for herd immunity. next guest for people have natural immunity for people already had the virus herd immunity is here this spring. john hopkins school of medicine

professor and dr. marty macari. what is natural immunity and why doesn't dr. fauci care about it? >> well, after you get the infection, your body develops antibodies. these are the same antibodies u. the vaccine is trying to trigger when you have circulating antibodies that means have you protection from the infection. recent study from california showed 39% of people in the state of california have these circulating antibodies in their blood system. 45% of people in los angeles have these antibodies and that study was done a month and a half ago dr. fauci is part of that old guard medical establishment that wants to see randomized control trial. we are not going to get it. we have to look at the occasional data. reincorrections are very rare. >> brian: he says he doesn't have enough data to come to that conclusion. what do you say to that?

>> he does mention it but when you go out there and tell everybody that 75 to 80% of the population needs to get vaccination and a lot of people hang their hat on every word he says you cannot have a need for 75 to 80% of the population get vaccinated to herd immunity and half the population with natural immunity currently. both cannot be true we can encourage and recognize herd immunity is closer because half the population has circulating antibodies. >> brian: you believe we hit herd immunity when? >> we have hit it already for healthcare workers where they are in nursing homes right now. cases are down 98%. herd immunity is not binary not all or nothing. gradual slowing we have seen it now in north dakota. they have probably hit herd immunity. we will see it at different parts of the country throughout april in late april into may a little bit. but you are going to see younger people continue to get the

infection through may. those are mostly asymptomatic and mild cases. >> brian: i'm a nonmedical professional but extremely frustrated every time i see dr. fauci interviewed so is donald trump. the former president of the united states talked about that. listen. >> i thought rather than firing him, you know, i listened to him but i didn't do what he said because, frankly, his record is not a good record. i like him personally. he is actually a nice guy. is he a great promoter. he is really a promoter more than anything else. >> brian: i mean, that's the way i feel. i feel like there is no interview he won't do. when does he have a chance to look at a pie chart or bar graph? >> well, i don't think it's healthy for a small group of people to be making all the public health recommendations. it's good to have multiple voices. look at his track record. his job is to prepare us for a pandemic and tell us how to manage it. he mostly missed the pandemic for the two months prior, never prepared us, was wrong on masks. we should have known that but the airline so hized transmission because sars cov 2

covid-19 behaves like cov 1. that was airline so hized droplets. he should have told us about the method of transmission, effectiveness of masks and mitigation there is a track record there which i think is not a very good track record of medical leadership. >> brian: dr. macari taxpayers give $45 million we deserve better. thank you very much. look forward to reading your column in the "wall street journal." thanks, brian. >> brian: you got it. coming up straight ahead, we are not close to done. it is clear when it comes to leadership of the democratic party and republican party, there is no coming together. but is it a different story leadership. county rank and file get things done? yes. matt gaetz and ro khanna disagree but work together. parler just peld tout congress how it has been unfairly targeted by big tech. tim pool next. ♪ ♪

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>> brian: glad you are back. the social media network parler now fighting against criticism that a failed to flag threats about the deadly capitol attack. today parler say they alerted the fbi multiple times to violent contact on platform. they said 50 times before january 6th. attorneys for parler making its case in a letter to congress on the same day the ceos of facebook, twitter and google were grilled on capitol hill for the first time since that riot. and the brings us to this question. did twitter, facebook, and amazon destroy parler the fastest growing social media outlet in america because they couldn't control it? joining us now to discuss this and more tim pool, journalist, self-proclaimed disaffected liberal and got a great podcast. tim, what do you think? why was parler taken down the same day the president was? >> parler was growing too fast. it was creating an alternate space for many conservative personalities and the pressure was so great. even i recognized i needed to have a profile there so i

started posting a little bit less on twitter. i still use it and these other platforms. but the big, the defining factor of whether or not one of these companies will succeed is critical mass. it was very clear that finally conservatives found a platform where they were gaining that critical mass. i think these companies panicked. you take a look at where all these companies are located. they are all in similar areas in silicon valley and we have seen this pattern of abuse before from these companies, these guys know each other. these vcs, i would assume most of them are friends. it happened with patron. people who make podcast or art can tell their fabs to sign up and give a little bit to support their work. they banned a podcaster karl ben j minute. when he moved over to another rival subscribe star all of a sudden they saw their financial services terminated scwament same time as other companies. no surprise parler challenged twitter. what you see from these tech companies, facebook, youtube, twitter they control the space

and they control the speech. think about what's going on with this pandemic. you can't go outside, you can't go to the bars and hang out with your friends. all of these rules you are forced to communicate online. they restrict certain opinions that normal people have. it's almost like they are engineering the conversation whether it's intentional or not. parler gave a space to those other opinions and they nuked it. just what they did. >> brian: have a choice instagram and what's app. and get beauty bought by the big guys or destroyed by the big guys. launching on another platform. are they going to try to take that platform, whatever it turns out to be, take that down? >> now, this is interesting, right? i honestly think they did not want to remove trump but it got to the point where the political pressure was too great and then they did. before donald trump joined twitter, twitter weighs losing users and changing metrics. this messiah understanding of what was going on. donald trump i should say before he ran for president. once he starts running for president he dominates the news

cycle. then people saw the trump bump media companies latched on to every single tweet he had. since he has been off social media. they still talk about the man but there is not enough. we are seeing the ratings drop across the board for everybody. remarkably fox news has kind of stayed where it was in terms of ratings. cbp, nbc, abc, everyone is going down. i wonder if donald trump does come back, will they feign a kind of oh no, oh, donald trump is back but secretly want him to be back? because his tweets, his posts means they can write all of these same stories again, claim trumpism is taking over the country and big threat to everybody and try to get their ratings back up. >> brian: might be watching now and wring that up with lara in a few hours tonight. kind of interesting. the more i think of it i like the idea of a press release. it's more elegant. maybe i should have tweeted less. we will never know. tim pool, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> brian: whether it's big tech or big business or big government is divided between the coastal elites and average

americans. it seems to get wider every kay the gulf between them. one person been warning us about this is j.d. vance young man elites want to ivy league school all betrayed in the movie hillbilly elegy. >> from another planet. >> yeah. you know, i guess. like, you know,. >> who are all these rednecks? [laughter] >> we don't really use that term. >> oh, no, no. yeah. it's not at all -- it's just, you know, you are one of the top educational institutions in the world. >> my mother was sal torn of her high school. smartest person i ever met probably smarter than anyone in room. >> bill: author j.d. vance, that's his life and let's talk about it. did you just notice when you left ohio go, to the military and got to an ivy league school is that when you noticed the gulf or did you in the it your

whole life? >> no, i definitely saw it first when i was up close and personal at law school. i kind of recognized that there was a divide between the community that i came from and the elites. but i didn't recognize how stark it was and how necessary it was to go from one place to the other until i got to law school. it was a real educational experience not just in the law but in the whole social way in which that world operates. >> brian: arrogance do you believe or is it just or is it ignorance? >> i think it's a little bit of both. you definitely have some very arrogant people. people who look down on the folks who come from the part of the country that i did. but it's also they don't actually know anybody who came from the part of the country that i did. so that breeds this skepticism, this questioning, this uncertainty about it. that just causes people to sometimes put their foot in their mouth. >> brian: right. and we see it every day. another example ripped from the head lanes used to be a new york story now a national story new york governor continues to fall on his face. this story emerges, that when

the coronavirus hit almost a year ago today and we were scrambling to get tests there was one family that wasn't, the cuomo family. he made sure his mom, his aunts, uncle, cousins and brother on another network got all the tests they need. when he tested positive made sure he got the doctor he needed. when got confused governor cuomo giving special service to people that he knew. that sun ethical. but is it surprising to you, j.d. vance? >> you know, unfortunately it's not too surprising there are two things about that story that really strike me. the first is, as you recall, brian, this was at the height of the pandemic in new york when we really didn't know what was going on, when there were a lot of people especially folks in nursing homes who were dying that we needed that testing for. and the fact that you have a politician using that testing to benefit his family, using those resources to benefit his family, it's sort of the height of a leader not acting like a leader. we want leaders to follow their own rules and want them to look after their own people. he wasn't clearly doing that the second thing that's crazy about this story, brian, as i

understand it, it was broken by a local albany paper. you have the height of the national media, the left wing media, the "new york times," the ton of papers who theoretically should have been covering and breaking. this it took a local news reporter to actually uncover this corruption. sort of suggest our media isn't actually that good at monitoring a lot of our politicians especially if they come from the right side of the political aisle. >> brian: he wrote the ethics laws. firing people for doing similarly. how do you explain that's for them this is about me? >> you know, i think it's just a sense of entitlement and a better time in our country's history, our leaders felt a certain sense of duty and obligation. they only made rules that they would themselves follow. and they expected the rest of the country to follow them as well. and one of the things that sort of elite separation from the rest of society has bred is this sense of entitlement. we belong here. we are expected to be here. our family is able to get special privileges. of course, that's the attitude

that you saw in a lot of old aristocracies that our entire country was founded to resist and push back upon. i really think this traces back to an elite, a ruling class that doesn't feel a sense of duty and obligation to its own people. this is just the latest sad example. >> brian: rob portman is going to be vacating his seat. need someone to fill it. you are from ohio. does this make you want to get into politics make an impact like he did and plusing and impact like did you in the military. impact like he did in law school? >> well, i think i'm definitely thinking about it, brian. and the really the question for me is whether the message that i have, the things that i have to bring to the table are ultimately a good fit for politics and whether people are going to be interested in the story that i have to tell and where i think the country should ultimately go. i will definitely let you know if i make a decision, but not there yet. >> brian: when they say fundraising dinners know you are for real. j.d. vance, thanks so much. >> thanks, brian, take care.

>> brian: great perspective. coming up, gone are the day president reagan having lunches with democrat tipp o'neal laughing and finding common ground. modern relationship in washington that might surprise you. how trump supporter matt gaetz and bernie sanders supporter ro khanna are finding common ground with each other, even when they disagree they agree to disagree. that story that you need to hear next. let's go upstairs. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ feel the cool rush of claritin cool mint chewables. powerful 24-hour, non-drowsy, allergy relief plus an immediate cooling sensation for your throat. feel the clarity, and live claritin clear.

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♪ brain brian all right, the president who promised to unify the country not off to auto great start. >> when was the last time you had a conversation with president biden, even on the phone? >> um, i don't believe i have spoken with him since he was sworn in. we had a couple of conversations before then. >> i know mitch well. mitch knows me well. i would expect mitch to say exactly what he said. >> all right. that's that. but, it's not always the case.

a lot of people on capitol hill do get along. you just never know about it. that's about to change. joining us now two friends, you wouldn't expect to see at the same time. democratic congressman ro khanna of california and a guy that's not in california republican congressman matt gaetz of florida. neither shy and very smart. start with you congressman khanna, how do you explain how much you like this guy? you told me off camera, you and matt get along. >> we do get along. we work on common issues. we work to get pac money out of politics. we both believe that lobbyists shouldn't be running this place. we both believe that we shouldn't be in foreign wars. obviously we disagree on issues. but, we actually engage in dialogue and even hang out. >> brian: congressman, i don't know if you know it but congressman khanna did not, did not support donald trump. and you did. he supported bernie sanders. when did you realize that you could still work with him, that you came in in the same class and can you get some stuff done?

>> brian, so many of the challenges we face in washington don't just pit the red team against the blue team. there are generational challenges. how do we ensure that america defeats china to win in the 21st century? how do we build a technical working class of people able to survive? how too we ensure thatf blood af our country in wars in the middle east and what's unique about this political realignment that i think donald trump had something to do with that bernie sanders had something to da with is that you can actually have right wing populist and left wing populists working together and sometimes it is the establishment against the rest of us. ro khanna has made me a better congressman because he doesn't take money from lobbyists or pacs. most members of congress get most of their money from lobbyists, pacs, and special interests. because of ro's inspiration i'm the only republican who won't take any lobbyist or pac money. >> let me return the compliment to matt.

when we were trying to end our involvement in yemen and trying to make sure that we didn't get into iran, matt went against people in his own party in his own leadership to stop those wars. and if i was just trying to put together a coalition on the left we would never have made the progress on yemen. we would have never made the progress in stopping the intervention in iran. so, people said why are you working with matt gaetz i said well if you care about stopping wars overseas, look at what he is doing. >> brian: all right. are you ready for rapid fire? here is something you agree on ending forever wars. matt, why? >> because america is too special and we ought to focus our resources on our people and focus on the strategic threats to ensure that we are a successful and prosperous country going forward. >> brian: congressman, co-handna, you just want us out of afghanistan, right? >> yes, i do. >> brian: next, something you disagree on. immigration. congressman gaetz, what do you think? >> i do not believe that we

ought to have a porous border. i think we ought to have rule of law. i think that the asylum process was improved greatly by president trump and i'm worried that joe biden's reforms are actually creating a great deal of insecurity in our country. >> brian: congressman co-handna, how do you differ? >> i believe in borders, but i believe that we need to uphold our rule of law on asylum and that means that when young children come here, we treat them with respect and have them go through the process. but, obviously i believe that we need to have borders and enforce borders in this country. brain brian so you differ. marijuana reform you both agree how, matt? >> i do not believe that the federal government has been a good steward of marijuana policy. i'm speaking to you from florida. i believe in state-based approaches. that's what our federalist system promises. and i hope ro khanna will join me in moving the biden administration on marijuana because so far the biden administration's only coherent policy on marijuana is firing staffers who use marijuana. >> brian: are you going to help him, ro? >> i criticized the

administration for that i agree with that matt that that was a wrong decision. we shouldn't be firing young people who used marijuana once and it actually has an impact most negatively on actually black and brown americans who face incarceration and it's one of the reasons we have mass incarceration in this country. so, i agree that we ought to move towards decriminalizing and legalizing marijuana. >> brian: hold your ears, donald trump agrees with you on the next one, ro. this is bringing manufacturing back to the u.s. he deserves a lot of credit for it. matt, you are in to that. so is ro. democrats and republicans bring the manufacturing back. what are you doing about it? >> well, i'm hopeful that we're able to work together on this because it's not an issue that lends to a red vs. blue dynamic. you see, ro represents silicon valley so he knows a lot about job creation in the modern era. and i actually think we can do a lot in the energy space and in

the clean economy space to work right alongside democrats to ensure that america is splendid and wonderful for generations to come. >> brian: do you think america, ro is, willing to spend more to build it here? >> we need to. i mean, that's the real competition with china. are we going to lead in ai? are we going to lead in cyber security? are we going to lead in the energy market for the future? by the way should all be located in silicon valley and boston. why aren't we developing in the rural area and the midwest and south. that's an area that i have worked with matt gaetz and i think that can be an area where we work in a bipartisan basis. >> brian: last question. do you feel pressure and consternation from your party leadership when you walk -- work across the aisle? matt, you first? >> i have been criticized for my work with ro. but i'm proud of it. because at the end of the day, our team isn't just the republican caucus or the track caucus. our team is the american people and i have gotten criticism from leadership for it. and i don't mind it at all because i'm deeply proud of the

work we have done together to stop wars, to build a manufacturing base in this country and to make sure we win generational challenges like the battle against china and climate change. >> brian: 15 seconds. he took a lot of your time ro. real quick. >> i'm proud of the work. too. you can look at my twitter feed right now i'm getting criticized. any time i do anything with matt, they say why are you doing that? are you supporting his positions? that's what we have got to get over in this country. i get criticized when i come on fox news. come on we have got to talk with each other and work together in concrete ways to move in country forward. >> brian: that's what we do in every day life. why don't we in washington. i am inspired and you end up in leadership in the not too distant future. ro khanna and matt gaetz grab a beer i don't want the taxpayers to pay for it. it's got to come out of your pocket. >> thanks, brian. >> we will make sure that's the case. >> thanks, brian. >> brian: up next how president biden expects to run again in 20 it 4. plus, at this point at this point are comedians are allowed

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♪ >> come on. here's the deal. let me just -- i'm not kidding around, no joke, folks. i know, my dad, lost his job in scranton. i lost my dog. i'm not kidding. i'm not being a wise guy, don't, don't, and he always does the list, number one, the one part. two, what they said. number three, you get the drill, come on. dog faced pony shoulder. >> day that carvy nailing the late show last night proving there is always room for comedy in politics for sure. joining us now to back me up on that i hope my fingers are crossed tap. she is the same dana perino co-hosted "america's newsroom" and "the five." same dana perino has a best selling book called "everything will be okay" we certainly hope. so congratulations on the book. it was great to be on with you on stable in jacksonville. >> you were gracious. fun to be with people.

>> brian: only time she would talk to me for an hour if 600 people in add an audience. is it okay to kid around. >> democracy needs that. it's healthy. >> brian: if you watch the late night shows they are not kidding around much. it almost looks like a slice of our lineup or cnn's lineup. >> dana: especially during the trump administration, right, they were very serious. but, now, like if you could get somebody like dana carvy who has a imitation like that that will make you laugh, i'm all for it. >> brian: i have something else you probably haven't seen in a while. do you remember when hillary was running against barack obama, the senator? this is what was called funny. they were having fun with both parties, democrats and republicans, for example. >> are you comfortable? and is there anything we can get for you? >> [laughter] >> no, thank you. i'm fine. >> john king, a follow-up? >> senator obama, a minute ago

jorge ramos asked if there was anything we could get you and you said, quote: no, thank you, i'm fine. my question is are you sure? [laughter] because it's really no trouble. >> brian: that's funny. snl making fun of the press who throws underhand softballs later for the next 8 years to that very president. >> dana: brian, i think if you are worried about division in the country one of the best ways to stop that is actually through humor. you need to have more of it. i remember like "saturday night live" they had a great george bush, right? will ferrell was very good at it. they came up with strategery. and for so many years until like two years ago president bush thought that he had come up with strategery. but they didn't come up with misunder estimated. that's a good word. >> brian: that's actually real. so here's a little of the press conference that went 62 minutes. so far if you were to give joe biden a grade of what you saw before we roll in a clip what would you have given him. >> i would do pass fail and i

would say for them for what the white house is trying to do today, they could say they passed. >> brian: okay. 62 minutes, wasn't necessarily strong. looked a little angry and, of course, the name president trump popped up. listen. >> have you decided whether you are going to run for re-election in 2024? you haven't set up a re-election campaign yet as your predecessor had by this time. [laughter] my predecessor need to -- needed to. [laughter] my predecessor, oh, god, i miss him. no, answer the yes. my plan is to run more re-election. that's my expectation. >> brian: they said in the follow-up question do you expect to run against him he said i don't know. president trump is going to be on with laura tonight. what do you think he will say to that? how do you think he feels about being called out on his immigration and everything else? and i think unjustly? >> yes. >> brian: on the border. >> right. they went back at bind again wait you changed the policy from the trump administration.

the answer that biden did tonight immigration answers i thought were the worst part. >> brian: that's all nip seemed to care about. >> the white house is very mad they are like why isn't anybody asking about covid? that's so rude? because code is getting better and the border is actually increasingly getting worse and everybody can see it. i expect president trump will vigorously defend his record. and that, have something funny to say about biden and the campaign. that's to keep us going in the morning. >> brian: i think so, too. especially when you talk about when he says to donald trump i'm not going to let a kid starve. that's what trump would do. i mean, come on, dana. talk about a low blow. if you are in the communications department, do you go ahead and walk that back? do you tell the president hey, you might want to clarify that. >> so would dana perino do that? dana perino would. but if i was the white house communications team for joe biden would i and i wasn't getting called out on it, maybe not. the white house team is looking at their headlines going they are pretty good, actually. it's not too bad. i could think that they made a big mistake in not calling on

peter doocy. it makes -- he is like 6'7". now he is 72, because you just make him bigger. what question was peter going to ask that he was going to have a hard time aping? >> brian: he also gave his indication what he was going to ask. >> dana: when he was on with john roberts and sandra smith afterwards i have questions here on the origins of the china virus or the pandemic, you know the covid-19. i have questions about the green new deal and this involvement with infrastructure bill. to me, if you are the president and you can't answer those? it makes peter bigger. why make peter the story? as much as i love him. brain brian even though he should be the story of the president of the united states you don't want peter to be the story. dana, thank you so much. i appreciate you staying late for me. >> i love it. >> brian: can you actually come home now. >> dana: i think people are sick of seeing me. brain brian i don't think that's possible. nobody better to talk to especially press conference you were there the whole time with president george w. bush. thank you so much for watching fox "fox news primetime."

we have congress jim jordan will be live ari fleischer and will cain i promise to talk to them separately. i just checked the lineup next is this guy named tucker carlson. listen to the drums. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." joe biden finally gave his first press conference this afternoon. no president has ever waited this long to answer questions in public. just as of yesterday we were not still entirely sure it would happen. a reporter at the white house saw biden ambling around and asked him if he was ready for his first press conference? what press conference, biden replied? apparently in the end somebody told him a staffer pointed biden toward the tape mark on the floor and gave him a shove. biden shuffled forth and started talking and pausing and talking some more and pausing. you heard the term pregnant paus