happy saturday and welcome to everybody at home, i am jillian turner, along with lisa and tyrus, a big saturday show that you're with us. here's what we got tonight. >> president biden signed the press conference this weekend while he was on the border, to our questions wasn't asked. >> lisa. >> the fight over the filibuster eating up and joe biden is conveniently changing his tune, we'll show you what he and president obama to set on the subject. >> tyrus. >> rutgers university and new jersey said all students to get

covered vaccines before heading back to campus next fall. other schools will follow suit? jillian: all that and more but first, delegation of republican senators asked the seven border, biden administration is struggling to contain the search of migrants screaming into the u.s. from mexico. the customs and border protection encounter 100,000 migrant last month alone, a two decade high. more than 18000 children in u.s. custody. the president reacted to the search during his press conference this week, listen. >> i should be flattered, people are coming because i am a nice guy, that's why and i am a decent man, that's why they are coming. they know biden is a good guy. gillian: vice president kamala harris to run on this crisis but neither of them have you indicated when they themselves

will travel to the border to see the situation firsthand. the white house still not calling the situation a crisis and now neither are the associated press which set standards for news outlets. internal memo instructs reporters the situation at the border doesn't fit the classic dictionary definition of a crisis and therefore we should avoid highly cautious about referring to the president situation, a crisis on our own although others who use that language. fox news is exclusively obtaining internal government memo from the department of health and human services that request support from the u.s. military. it includes a request for border patrol have a waiting period for unaccompanied minors after they are vaccinated and before they are moved onto u.s. military bases. this effectively has the children moving on to military bases before their vaccinations have become effective which allows for the possibility of the covered spread. sean, i want to ask you to put on your former congressional,

former half as member of congress to tell us generally, what you think about the safety of how migrant and unaccompanied military bases and what you think about the fact that they are getting transferred out of border patrol custody to the u.s. military before their vaccines have taken effect? >> we should put america first, just the right policy so when at least 10% of migrants have covered and not fully vaccinated and they are going to american places, it's going to spread covered amongst men and women who in our country. it doesn't make sense, back when donald trump was doing rallies, this will be a super spread or a bunch, donald george trump shouldn't hold rallies, they are concerned about it and closed businesses and kept kids out of schools when they are willing to risk lives of american military men and women all because they want to alleviate pressure on the border created by democrats.

it is frustrating to hear joe biden talk about i am a nice guy and their coming because they are nice guy. when the boys and girls who leave their families and go on a truck with coyotes or gang members or cartels and their loaded up with birth control because girls are raped on the border, 70% of little girls are raped, many are sold into sex slavery and going in groups getting exposed to college. it's a management crisis joe biden created and prosecuted. women are sexually assaulted, is a lifetime sentence of hell when they navigate a sexual assault and joe biden wants to celebrate that to the american people? little girls getting raped on the journey and they want to say he's a great guy? it's a horrible policy. gillian: let's drill down on the military aspect because of something getting attention this week on news outlets across america. this is impacting not just teens and young adults but children,

specifically girls, young girls below the age of 13 are bearing the brunt of this sexual exploitation crisis, there getting trapped by coyotes in mexico and the u.s. and sold into sexual slavery, sometimes lasting decades, do you see any possible solutions, a way forward here? >> the solutions were the things happening under the prior administration, the remaining an mexico policy, with the northern triangle companies, countries brother but of course biden rescinded the policies mitigating the influx we are seeing now so his policies are not humane at all for the reasons you laid out and shawn said. the fact that we have 18000 unaccompanied minors in custody right now, separated from their parents so where are the reporters went for four years we heard family separation, and human policies from the trump

administration, this is inhumane to encourage people, not through being a nice guy but through weakness of people to exploit laws in our system to make a dangerous contract to the u.s., that's inhumane. biden's policies are inhumane and i had the opportunity to interview president trump minute podcast, the truth with lisa booth which you can find on apple podcast and wherever you get a podcast and i asked, you have advice for president biden right now? clearly he is failing in his advice was to reinstate the remaining an mexico policy, continue to build a wall and he's talked about his relationship with the mexican government but the fact that they stepped up with 27000 troops deploying the troops to try to present what we are seeing now and also how he withheld aid from the northern triangle countries until they stepped up and took back some of the citizens because they weren't doing that previously so there's a lot biden can do and he's choosing not to.

gillian: let's dig into the underlying causes here. tyrus, president biden presented himself as a press conference this week and said people are coming to the use and u.s. from honduras and el salvador right now is not because of our policies, not because of anything the united states is doing it because conditions on the ground where they live are so horrendous they prefer to risk their lives on these journeys to try to get here rather than live another day where they are, what you think the answer is? is it somewhere in between? you don't have to choose, it can be a bit of both. >> it can be both but first, as a child, i was told nice guys finish last. he never wanted to be the nice guy. i'd love to know where the nice guy as far as american citizens when we deal with covered because even when we get the vaccine, we are still saying hold on, you can't do anything

yet because might be a variant so we are not seeing the same strictness with people coming in from the border and whatever their situation is that they are fleeing from something or whatever, we have the same issues we had before and we were dealing with it. the biggest thing, there was this giant sheriff, this think people are like don't go, they'll send you back or you will go to jail, you have to do it the right way, go through your paperwork go through a sponsor, that's out of the window now. now they just come to get whatever they want plus there's free money falling out of trees in america succumb, they are going to release you so now they feel the giant evil empire is gone, the gates are wide open and the american people, you can't leave your house, can't go to a restaurant, you will be changed even if you get the vaccine, hold on because there might be a variant so we don't know with covered plumbing

across with a different variant from mexico and they are not just, it's all different countries, the new gateway into this country is through mexico so people come from around the globe through mexico because we got a nice guy saying come on in trouble the water is fine. gillian: lisa, you talked to the former president of box on the podcast this week, he may not have said it exactly the way tyrus did but in essence, this is a personality, president trump was essentially saying i see my role when it comes to border security as being a bad cop, it's my job to deter people from even thinking about coming here in the first place, tell us about your conversation a little more. >> yes, your job as commander-in-chief is to have that command, deter people from doing bad things elsewhere in the country. unfortunately we don't have that with joe biden but the conversation was really

interesting because he broke down his decision-making and thought process behind some of the policies and quite easily biden could reinstate the remaining an mexico policy which is incentivize people from wanting to exploit asylum laws and come because they have to remain in mexico as opposed to getting free entry into the u.s. and getting lost and not showing up to the court hearing while seeking asylum so it sets the bar were people who are truly seeking asylum could go to mexico and do it the right way and those who want to exploit our system decided heck with it, this is too hard, i do want to be stuck in mexico, i want to go to the u.s. gillian: president biden said in his press conference the other day, i'm not willing to do that, i'm not willing to force people to say in mexico under the conditions there when we can welcome them and offer -- >> nice to hear, right? >> we got to leave it there, immigration player on the show. catch "justice with judge

jeanine" later tonight where guests, former president trump himself, they will talk about this tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern here on fox news channel. president biden in his first news conference this week since taking office, how did he do with questions from a list of ten reporters? fox news channels peter doocy was not one of the reporters given the opportunity to ask a question, we'll get into that right after the break. >> the only member of the network never been on the list in front of the president and i'm curious if that's the official administration policy. ♪♪

welcome back to the big saturday show. president biden held his first press conference this week on his 64th day in office. biden was asked about the border but not a single reporter asked about the pandemic, opening schools, taxes or relations with russia. biden relied on his notes,

detailing policy points all the pictures and names of journalists in attendance. boxes peter doocy didn't get to ask a single question so he asked the white house press secretary why that was. >> we noted toward the end of the campaign the transition in here at the white house anytime the president has an event where he's given a list of reporters to call on, the only member of the five network never been on the list in front of the president and i'm curious if that's official administration policy. >> we are just having a conversation are we? questions every time you come has the president taken questions from you since he came into office yes or no? >> only when i have shouted after he goes through the whole list. >> rising congress and did town

halls, i'd take the toughest questions first because it helped me, it may be look strong so julian, does peter doocy have a.bringing this up with jen stuckey saying the president when asking reporters questions, never called on fox news? >> yes, of course he does. part of what also told peter in response, i want to be on fox news sunday, this very week with chris wallace and that is fantastic, everybody wants a chance to sit down with chris wallace. the problem with taking questions from peter and kristin fisher and other correspondence when he does these briefings is that the white house is picking and choosing who they want to take these questions from, it's not up to the white house to decide which journalist covers the white house, it's up to the news outlet. on fox news announcing white house correspondents and who they are that is the choice in front of you.

deciding to do other interviews with other people at these networks is gravy but the court responsibly is to take the questions from the reporters in the room at that moment, does that make sense? >> it does it seems like it would make sense that joe biden is actually not his press secretary jen psaki to ask for questions of the president but i know press secretaries will read answers off the briefing books and as a member of congress and politicians, they'll have books with names, you meet people and want to know who everyone is and you don't want to embarrass yourself but it's on the president would have a briefing, reading answers of questions, easy questions like what you want to do with the filibuster? he spent 40 years in the senate and has to read questions about what you think of that? does it make him to our foreign enemies? >> absolutely.

joe biden, president biden is 78 years old, i don't know why it's forbidden for somebody in the media to address the fact that we have an almost 80-year-old in the white house struggled to get through a press conference who's not been out and clearly we see why, struggled finishing thoughts and sentences, stopped midsentence and had to have reporters come in and help him, that should raise questions and concerns as americans because this is commander-in-chief, the individual making decisions that could potentially send young men and women to work, decisions that impact our lives and it matters if he's almost 80 years old and potentially not as sharp as he was back in the day, that is a concern and something we should be able to discuss and whatever people thought about president trump, we are fearful of him. he had a wrong underneath with

sanctions, tougher on russia and we saw under the obama administration and even allies paid more, he got them to step up to the plate. if you are an ally, they watch the press conference, are you not going to try to take advantage of the situation are you not going to view him as weak? >> absolutely. you are straight talk express, you clarified everything for us to tell us, how did joe biden do and how you rate the price? how do they do asking things of the question of the president? >> thank you for asking me that question. [laughter] shoot. >> do you have names. >> one second, okay, i got this. [laughter] we could use this to our advantage, we should do a lot better, don't be so upset about this, change the name of the people were like fox news, john wayne. john wayne?

where is he at? he could ask the question, let's not be so quick to be upset, be covered. the man reached the script, president burgundy, he'll read the teleprompter so we could use it to our advantage. if i was in north korea right now, i'd be like fire them up, let's go. so i joke but seriously, partisanship aside, it hurt my heart because i do respect president joe biden but it hurt my heart in a press conference to see, it is not the number, everyone ages differently, a 78-year-old money marathons and can answer every question on jeopardy and then there is our suite president. positive everything. >> i have to say though -- >> quick question, joe biden said he was expecting to run for reelection so do you think joe biden will run for reelection,

yes or no? >> yes. >> lisa. >> i'm not convinced he finished a full term. >> where he is not, tell him you want again. [laughter] >> this is a great segment. everybody, be sure to catch fox news sunday tomorrow, jen psaki will join wallace for an exclusive interview to p.m. eastern here on fox news channel. president joe biden says the filibuster, eliminating it to get his agenda passed but it wasn't too long ago when he was singing a different tune. >> the one thing this country stands for, not feeling feel outside control the field. ♪♪ ♪♪

welcome back to the big saturday show, the push to change or eliminate the filibuster appears to gain steam at the defense democrats to pass sweeping agenda without republican votes. democrats are describing the senate requirement is 50 both to advance legislation as racist. >> for generations, the filibuster was used as a tool to block progress on racial justice and in recent years, is used by the far right as a tool to block progress on everything. >> people of color would not be on this issue, we are not going to allow the filibuster used to deny me and people who look like

me. >> call, they get quick. >> regarding the filibuster, president barack obama said he believes the filibuster was a relic of the jim crow era, do you agree? >> yes. gillian: here's the thing, president biden and former president obama both championed the filibuster while in the senate including back in 2005 when republican's had the majority. >> for one party, be it republican or democrat to change the rules in the middle of the game so they can make all decisions while the other party told to sit down and keep quiet. if they choose to change the rules and an end to democratic debate, the fighting and bitterness and gridlock will only get worse. >> the filibuster not about stopping a nominee or a bill, it's about compromising moderations, one thing the

country stands for, on the side of those who control on the field. gillian: 60, not 50. apparently i cannot read today. gillian, was the filibuster not racist in 2005 when senator obama said that or in 2020 democrats used 327 times? >> to me, but the obvious follow-up question, when the president of the u.s. had and death in black and white terms, a relic of the jim crow era, the follow-up question from the next reporter should have been well, was it a relic of the jim crow era when you and president obama used it a few years ago? the other bigger points here, the filibuster is the perfect example of something that

literally nobody outside washington has ever heard about, nobody cares about and get that got most of the band with at this first major white house press corps briefing from the president of the united states, a huge missed opportunity for reporters to touch on the issues that most americans care about. to my ears, no reporters, nor the president and don't hold me to it, i have to check transcripts but listening to it live once, nobody said anything about the 500,000 americans have died this year from covid but five questions about the filibuster. it is such a disconnect to me. >> thank you for saying it's a good question. thank you but the filibuster does matter, why don't you explain why the filibuster does matter? >> good luck.

[laughter] >> it is a rule where it requires the senate to get 50 votes and rarely does one party have a 60 vote majority and when democrats passed obamacare beyond that between 2008 -- 2009 or ten you haven't had a one party majority with 60 votes in the senate so is called the senate to help bipartisanship usually does a good thing i want to be honest, back when republicans had control of the house, senate and donald trump's first two years, i said democrats, when they have the same opportunity, they will get rid of the filibuster we might as well but now so we can pass our agenda. so i am a little hypocritical here but what concerns me is we are not talking about whether the filibuster is good or bad in the senate, we are seeing now that is racist. i'm angry democrats, any power grab they want, they want to wrap around racism so the filibuster is racist, opening schools is racist, border

security is racist, national guard suppressed riots and american citizens racist, every power grab is racism which undermines actual racism if everyone is racist so that is my concern. let's debate policy. >> tyrus, i see you shaking your head, why does the left inject race into everything? >> you can't argue with that. ask me anything, ask me a question. >> i don't want to play this game. [laughter] >> your racist. see everyone naturally got quiet. i have the transcript here, you are correct but here is the deal, the filibuster of the last time was used was 2017 for policies and before that it was used in 2009 survey stop that we

are doomed one of the filibuster in 2038 so i think this is one of those things where there is no fact to this issue, the filibuster for one side president barack obama said it one perfect the other side just runs the table, it's there for a reason and keeps everybody honest and that's the whole reason for the filibuster. there in the lead whenever you're in the lead or have the majority, suddenly the filibuster is a problem when they don't have it, they needed ridiculous politics. >> i want to know, tyrus, i want to know if you got it. >> if i had a beer, i would take it warm. [laughter] >> i'm just following up, that's good.

some on the left continue to pace the idea of defunding police, one state tries to allow officers to protect themselves from violent protesters, details on the controversial measure up next. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪

♪♪ welcome back, i am tyrus along with sean, gillian turner and lisa boothe. kentucky public and defending a controversial bill that passed the state senate making it misdemeanor to assault police and punishable by up to 90 days in jail and fined up to $250. robert and state senator says the 211 is a tool to protect police officers opponents say the bill dangerous and an attack on free speech. this is shocking to me because i was taught as a kid if you cuss

at a cop you're in jail anyway so we didn't do it. i grew up with accountability and respecting others and the badge. gillian, let me ask, in terms of attacking the first amendment saying its infringement on people's first amendment to close out a police officer, you see a connection can there be a fine line? >> here's the deal, i'm not in favor of people causing out police officers, i covered a lot of the black lives matter riots and protests, both here in d.c. last summer so i saw a lot of this going on, these shenanigans firsthand, it was disgusting. i saw people drunk and high without masks, yelling out police, for them, cursing at them, it was awful. nobody wants to see that but there is, and police do need extra protection when they are facing rowdy crowd so i'm all in

favor of those measures but i don't think you can infringe on people's first amendment rights by making it illegal to say certain things, that's un-american, inappropriate so i wouldn't personally back that but i condemn that kind of behavior, i see a lot of it, it is awful but i don't think that is the answer. >> sean, usually it's like contempt of court, contempt of police, one of those things you shouldn't do but they can't arrest you for it. usually it hand-in-hand with things like disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, fleeing from police, assaulting a police officer so once you start calling, there's usually a reason for so i feel the law is already kind of there, would you agree with these things, but about it? >> this is disorderly conduct, the law, you can prosecute for somebody behaving this way, we want a wide later freedom of speech and to protect our law

enforcement. you can't legislate respectful law enforcement, respect comes from upbringing and your parents and community and society, you're taught to respect 30 and law enforcement, that's gone away and i feel bad for men and women who serve this country, they do so much to keep us safe are treated so poorly by so many. paul: it goes back to the respecting. when i think of respect, it is ridiculous. i wish we could find a way to be more respectful without being sent to jail for it. lisa, you seen it all and covered it all, how do we fix this. >> that is a tough question. i think a lot of it is parenting, teaching your kids to have respect, teaching your kids to address issues in the right way. if you have concerns, it's within your rights as an american to protest and make

your voice known however, you can't get into writing or abuse police, you can't take it to the next level where it becomes lawbreaking but in regard to this, i agree with the rest of the panel, we need more beach, not less and it's already a problem in the u.s. right now with cancel culture and loss of free speech and i don't think we should add this but what does he do, which i support is they treat crimes against police as hate crimes, there's a handful of states who have these laws and i think that's something we should consider, if somebody goes out and attacks a police officer simply because they are wearing a badge because they want to hurt or kill a police officer, and should be treated as a hate crime so that something when it's physical abuse, assault, attempt of homicide or homicide, what is of that nature, i would support that treated as a hate crime but when it comes to speech, i don't people speaking ill of police or anyone but we are entitled to and should protect our first amendment rights here in the

u.s. >> sean, do you have something to add? >> let's have parents raise good kids that will respect law enforcement and we all agree, freedom of speech matters but is that even speech? there getting punched, bikes are being thrown at them, cocktails, bricks, it's not just speech, it's violence across the country and hurting them, putting them in the hospital, killing some of them we have to be concerned about. >> couldn't have said it better myself, phenomenal. >> current and future students across america are already trying to anticipate campus this fall. students who require getting the covid vaccine, many other schools will follow and benefit, that's next. ♪♪

welcome back to the big saturday show. rutgers university says all students enrolled for in person learning will need to have gone the coronavirus vaccine before arriving to the fall semester. school officials cite white house plan for vaccination to be available for all adults by end of me. >> we are built for collaboration, congregation, we are not built, we believe this is the way we build the safest campus. >> gillian, why would students

at little to no risk of covid need to be vaccinated to be around other students at little to no risk from covid? >> a couple things, i feel if college campuses to set their own rules, they already do pretty much everything else anyway, they are a business and many other corporations here in america so i am fine with colleges doing this, not state schools but private colleges and universities if they want to. i will say this issue of requiring vaccinations and proof of vaccinations is something really igniting american public opinion right now, i got a dose of his firsthand earlier this week. i did some reporting have a biden administration is considering making vaccine passports for international u.s. travelers mandatory, if you want to get on a flight go overseas and come back, you need proof you've been vaccinated. have never gotten such heated response live on our report on

social media as i did on this story, i am interested to find out what everybody else on the panel and what our viewers think about this. i know on college campuses it's more of a niche topic than the entire american public being able to travel but everybody, our viewers were very against any requirements for vaccinations at all. >> 's policy doesn't even make sense because they are not requiring their employees or staff were probably at higher risk to get vaccinated but they require students who are basically little to no risk to get vaccinated so so many things with covid, this doesn't even make sense. >> the 20 these young people to get a vaccine, they don't want one and they are low risk, it's like a chinese style credit scoring system to get certain perks if you follow certain rules and i hate it but how about if you're somebody like my family who all had covid and we

all have antibodies probably better than vaccine, do we get to come in? if i don't want the vaccine because i have a religious objection or personal objection and i'm in my fourth year, are you going to give me a refund of my four years of tuition you took from me and not limit come to school? is one thing, what does does take federal money because there students get federal loans funneled in to rutgers so i think we do have some say in how the universities who to get their own money make these rules for american students who are very low risk. >> sean mentioned he had the antibodies to his family has them so why would someone who has natural immunity to be forced to get the vaccine? it makes no sense. >> outrageous, you can't ask me that, it racist. what kills me, it is a personal choice, vaccines are a personal

choice, i chose to get the vaccine, i don't want to push my toys on anyone else and i think when it comes to get a vaccine to go to the university or do this, i think we are infringing on the whole thing of being in the u.s., freedom of choice so i don't think you should ever tell somebody what they have to do with her body. you should be able to make your own choices, it's not fair, it's ridiculous and there's never been a time like this so not putting the needle in my arm, i weigh the facts. >> i agree with that, it should be people's choice. doctor marty of fox news and johns hopkins who argues it will probably reach herd immunity at some time by april or may and a major slowing of the red so that's welcomed news but anyway, you want to find yourself getting lost online? if so, you're not alone, can you guess how much actual time we are spending on the internet? what exactly everyone is looking

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americans have spent a lot of time with our faces focused on internet over last year more than ever a new study shows average american sends out 40 minutes online each week. so how often are you falling into the internet warm hole now lisa first thing i need to say about this is -- 40 minutes -- what are you talking like maybe 40 hours. [laughter] i always thought spending 40 minutes online. >> god bless them i waste so much of my life on most random things right now staying in miami i've gone on miami bucket ligs on instagram all of the things looking at fun things to do now that i'm here and what i went to jacksonville not along ago going to be hiking so i started researching bear attack and started researching grizzly attack and frequency of the attacks how to survive bear attack what does bear spray do and went down dark racket hole what to do if attacked and same

thing with stingrays did a ton of research on that as well. so i waste so much of my life so much of my time -- i would like to get it back. >> i'm jell use you get to interact with stingray and bears, i'm here in d.c. -- here in d.c. basically got squirrels and my dogs that's it. tyrus what about you? >> i avoid the internet and social media like the plague i'm so prowftd fact that i'm down to just two. i have twitter and instagram and they're combined. so only at gun point from the wife do i post. i just can't stand it. my idea of a worm hole is as a result of a hook coming through it. you know? i'm i can't wait until i retire because i'm getting cabin in montana and if you don't catch me between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. in the house so i'm trying to diet saying man i wish i had a banana split and get 27 e-mails about banana splits and never been a

better time for bank baskin-rob. >> how you have twitter and instagram combined what does that mean? >> i don't know my daughter did it. no clue. >> the sharing -- sharing? >> i don't know what that is. i stepped away from all of them i don't do much facebook, twitter, instagram but my favorite app. >> but you feel great. >> awesome. but i love that robinhood app that's a free investment investing website where you get a -- you know trade stocks for free right and before you have lighten me up i have a retirement account but it is free fund investigationment on robinhood if i get ?uct racket hole like sometimes twice an hour checking this stock and i love it on top of that as a second i love investor business daily. which helps get into robinhood kind of crazy. >> grad to hearing all of the -- >> great outdoors. >> watch out for the bears. >> exactly we have to leave it

there right back here 5 p.m. for the big sungdz sunday show. here's "fox report." lawn mowers from both parties travel to texas to get an up close look at the border crisis this as number of unaccompany children in u.s. custody swells to more than 18,000. good evening i'm jon scott and this is the "fox report." ♪ ♪ jon: a house delegation of mostly democrats visiting a processing facility in el paso today. it comes one day after a gop senate delegation made a similar trip to a facility in donna. lawmakers criticizing the overcrowded conditions, as border control, patrol braces for even more foot traffic as the weather gets warmer. former acting i.c.e. director tom is standing