sorry. pay for your on wifi. we'll never be the mob or the media. we'll always be independent, fair and balanced, give you the news the mob never will. let not your heart be troubled. pete, how are you? >> sean, i'm doing great. if brian fellter wants a train maybe joe biden will give him one. you know? >> sean: what is a if you more billion? we have trillions and trillions and trillions of debt. >> maybe 5-d from the chinese company. filling in for laura, always great to see you, my friend. i'm in for laura this evening and this is the angle. hospitalizations are stagnant. so why is joe biden's former covid adviser still trying to

scare americans into submission? dr. marty exposes the lies. plus as border crossings jump to their highest point in 15 years and deportations are down significantly the biden administration is still refusing to take this crisis seriously. they won't even call it one. did you know amidst all of that, we still don't even have a cbp commissioner? no one is at the top at the helm. and while biden pretends the crisis at the board doesn't exist he uses the easter bunny to push a familiar agenda. you're going to have to see this. raymond arroyo is here with "seen and unseen." this one, a day late and not a dollar short. it's a classic but first the left is making sure the state of georgia pays dearly for daring to make its elections fairer and more secure.

how dare they! liberal woke want to devastate its economy as well. and they now have a willing partner in major league baseball. formerly america's pastime. on friday the league announced it would move the all-star game out of atlanta. costing the state tens of millions of dollars in revenue including a lot of black business owners in the city of atlanta. which the media is, of course, ecstatic about. >> major league baseball took the necessary step and action. >> the right thing is for major league baseball to protect their brand. for them to back away. >> brian kemp said he'll not bow to pressure from major league baseball or anyone else. for georgians of good faith, of all races, try to purge trumpism from their midst. [laughter] >> nothing but good faith coming

from the reverend. and as laura said last week it's time for republicans to draw a line in the sand. >> any business that bows down to boy cutters better be prepared to run into the buzz saw of tens of millions of patriotic americans who will vote as well with their wallets. i'm talking moms and dads who are sick of being lectured to by spoiled brat activists who produce zero that is useful to america. what we're seeing in georgia is just the latest of the left's broader campaign of intimidation and distortion. >> laura, amen. joining me now is the man in the middle of all of this right now, georgia governor brian kemp. thank you for joining us. just moments ago, literally 15 seconds ago, breaking news, we want to get your reaction, the all-star game has now been officially relocated according to sources close to the associate press to denver. so from your state of atlanta to denver, colorado, first, your

reaction to that media news? >> well, thanks, pete, for having me on. georgia has 17 days for in person early voting including two optional sundays denver has 15 days, and require photo i.d. it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. biden at the ncaa championship game talking about every game played in indy and how great it is and indiana is the birthplace for the photo i.d. requirement. in fact the court case, marian county, where the game is being played tonight. so hypocritical. >> governor what is this about then? those numbers don't lie. it's obviously not about the voter i.d. requirement. it's not about the early days of voting. you've mentioned that the domain name registered by one of

sayingscy abram's organizations stopjimcrow -- was registered before the bill was in its final form. why georgia, why this line in the sand? >> because we have an early session and we took the initiative to fix some issues that we saw in the election last year, and try to continue to make georgia state where it's easy to vote and hard to cheap and have secure, accessible fair elections, but i tell you, i think there are several other things. obviously you've got stacey abrams and her groups, including the people, who are lying to the american people, the citizens and a lot of these corporations that they are trying to cancel, just for their financial well-being. you've also got trying to distract from the people flooding across the border, and then you also have the big push for hr-1 and sr-1 at the federal level to have an unconstitutional mandate to take over state elections.

>> you're absolutely right. when the "washington post," a friend of joe biden, is giving him four pinocchios for his characterization of what's happening in georgia you know he's in trouble. it's absolutely not true, but it's not just major league baseball. that's the crazy part about. this coca-cola, delta airlines, delta in particular, is trying to distance themselves from this law. but remember, and i know you know this, it was reported after you signed the bill, an internal statement from delta's corporate communications team to its employees was leaked. the delta statement said, its government affairs team, aka their lobbyists have been heavily engaged in helping to write the bill. governor, dealt -- delta airlines was helping to write the bill. what does this tell you about the power of the left, mob? >> they are working on them. they are working on the board members, or the board members themselves. they are working on the ceo's. i know some of these ceo's that

are outspoken live in new york and new jersey where you have to have an excuse to vote absentee. you don't have to have that in georgia. they don't have early voting or they don't have as many days like joe biden's unstated delaware. it's so hypocritical. look, it's just unfair to hard working georgians. small business owners, and baseball fans not only here but all across the country, that now this great sport, america's pastime is now going to be politicized. when i grew up playing little league, senior league, high school, baseball, last thing i thought about when playing those games and having my family in the stands and a bunch of other kids i grew up with was politics. that's the last thing anybody talked about and now it's front and center because we have a bunch of spineless corporations, even though they have been engaged in the legislative process as it worked through and this is a bill that's really a good bill. it will further secure our

elections but also make them very accessible. every single republican in the house and senate voted on that bill, and it's a good bill and they are just lying about it. that's the simple truth. i hate to say that but that's the facts, and there are plenty of people piling on now about other things that make a lot of sense to me. like china, and cuba. >> yeah, we're going to get to some of that later on in the program but know you're on side of the american people. a.p. came out with a poll that believe 72% of americans believe all vote sheers provide an i.d. in order to vote and your state, georgia, offers to anyone of any background for free which i know you already know, and it's a pesky detail the left will always ignore. thank you very much. appreciate your clarity on this. >> thanks for having me on. >> great to have you. as major league baseball exits georgia i guess now to denver which has less days of early voting and voting i.d., blows

your mind, hypocrisy of the left. over voter suppression concern, it's deepening ties in the country that throws ethnic minorities that throws ethnics in concentration camps and has zero days of early voting or voting rights at all for any of its citizens. we're talking about that communist country of china. the day before the mlb pulled the all-star game out of atlanta, the league extended, get this, the league extended its deal with a chinese tech giant to stream baseball games in china so the day before they cancel mlb they expanded a deal in china. and that's not all. for decades major league baseball has worked hand-in-hand with the communist regime as part of a children's development program. sounds lovely. joining me now is chris bedford, senior editor at the federalist, and victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution. chris, let me start with you. major league baseball says their

georgia decision was over values, so does this mean they share china's values? >> well, they are lying about that. it wasn't about values. it was about money and being woke, whether it's a combination of the corporations actually believing some of this garbage, or just the people being absolutely afraid of being boycotted for it, all they care about here is the money. they are moving it to colorado, a state that's just as stringent as georgia, which, by the way, is not stringent at all on voter integrity. that's the kind of example that they are talking about here and now to do deals with china, operating concentration camps, like you said, no elections at all, with a company that's connected to the state closely accompanied the canceled nba just because one general manager spoke out and said that hong kong should good stood with. they are doing business with the devil right now and i just wish we could return to a time when baseball was something we could all cull together on. we could sing the anthem, it was

our global ambassador but not anymore. >> victor, you have to know deep down in their hearts they know exactly who they are dealing with in the communist chinese. they know precisely the type of regime that's there. they are willing to look the other way. condemn their own backyard but open their arms to billions of customers potentially. what is this actually about for these companies? >> it's about money. it's a $1.4 billion market for not just baseball but the nba and even maybe soon the nfl. and i think their traditional audience, they feel, is static. it's aging. they are a much more diverse professional franchise so the way that pans out they are appealing to the woke domestic market, and the chinese market, and one way they square the circle of supporting a chinese market that's anti-human rights is by being woke at home so the louder they can be abstractly left wing, more they can excuse

the fact that they are dealing with totalitarianism, and i think also they are much more afraid of 30% of the population that's allowed than 70% that's live and let live. the traditional american. and so they made this conscientious business decision. but it raises, finally, pete, a really good question. conservatives expected this from academia. they expected it from hollywood and the media but they have got to take a hard look at the corporate board rooms, top brass in the military, wall street, and i think they are going to learn that they are not conservative anymore for a variety of reasons, and why would conservatives want to subsidize professional sports franchises when they build a stadium or why would they say it's okay for a four star general to revolve in and out of raytheon or general dynamics when they go in and out of the pentagon. we'll have to take a hard look because these are not our allies anymore. they have made conscious business decisions in their own

interest and disguised or veered them over with this hypocritical wokeness but it's about economy and power. >> chris, another example, we could go on forever. coca-cola, one of the sponsors of the olympics in beijing, victor talked about it, whether it's corporate board rooms or the military, the pentagon, these are places conservatives used to consider allies. how do you take on the woke culture totally infecting them? >> victor is completely right. a lot of these people might have been more cynical back in the day when they were saying, we're just going to go along. we don't want to be boycotted. we know conservatives won't boycott it but if you look at the titans of the industries they are actually woke. they are true believers. they think they are bending the arc of justice and making the world a better place by penalizing christians, by penalizing voter integrity. you have the richest people in america attacking the poor of the people in america. that's a very sick situation but

companies like coca-cola, companies like major league baseball, i think what needs to happen is conservatives need to make them feel pain. they need to have actual reactions to this. whether it's looking at antitrust. whether it's not subsidizing their stadiums. whether it's not filling up their stadiums when you go there to play. or watching it. the amount of people i know -- they would watch every single game that they could all year round, who aren't even paying attention anymore is massive. that needs to grow because companies need to understand there is a cause for this and they will feel hurt for it. >> there is a threshold you reach where you finally say it's just not worth it, when they wear you down and they wear you out and you said i didn't want politics from you, maybe major league baseball through this action will cross that precipice much like the nfl and the nba have in different ways. chris bedford and chris hanson i could listen to you all night long but we're out of time. appreciate it. there is a question for major

league baseball. it's a big one. a real one. is it worth going woke if it makes you go broke? we all saw what happened to the nba and the nfl after they embraced the anti-american blm agenda. their ratings tanked. if the mlb really wants to flip its acronym around to blm, that's mlb to blm, get knit then they better be prepared to face the consequences. last year's covid lockdown cost pro-baseball teams billions? how much can they take from making angry their largely conservative fan base? joining me fox radio hort, thank you for joining us. what's your prediction. does baseball get hurt the same way the nba did and football did in terms of ratings? >> first, thanks for having me. second, i think it will be worse for baseball because as you mentioned, they actually have a fan base that's already appalled

by the direction that we have seen the nba, to large extent, and the nfl to a lesser extent, follow. so in general, i think this works way worse for baseball than even those other sports, and i frankly think the positive here, if you want to take away a positive is, a lot of people, myself included, have for a long time said, hey, let's leave politics out of sports. we haven't argued against, you know, inclusion of sports as much as we've just said, let's just enjoy the game because sports is one of the last places where you can go and have cross tribal alliances, right? you don't think about your -- when your favorite team scores you don't think about the race, the religion, the religious differences, whatever might divide people. identity politics-wise. you think about the game itself, and what i believe has happened now with this major league baseball decision is people are now taking up arms and they are saying, okay, if we're going to

politicize everything in this country, then let's actually go to war and figure out what's going to happen. i think what's going to happen is, for a long time, you basically could have lay-ups. you could fleck at the altar of sports without having to worry too much about those people with political ideations. now we're in for a real boxing match or fight where punches are going to get thrown in both directions, and i think this has changed the dynamic, a paradigm shift in a big way. >> interesting. easy to take lay-ups. now they are really ticking people off. you're right about sports. it's probably the only time i have ever high five a socialist. i don't know if i have or not but i wouldn't know it. as fans we're all cheering for the team we love, doesn't matter. where does logic end? senator rubio called out major league baseball's commissioner robert manfred. he wrote a letter to the commissioner saying this.

get this. i wrote to ask you whether you intends to maintain your membership at augusta national golf club? as you're well aware the exclusive members only club is located in the state of georgia. so, major league baseball cancels georgia for the all-star game, but the commissioner gets to be a member of augusta in georgia? how does that work? where does that end? >> it doesn't work at all. it's hypocritical and give credit to senator rubio for calling out the commissioner here, rob manfred, for all of this ridiculous hypocrisy. also, there are still 81 home baseball games that are going to be played in the atlanta braves stadium and the state that they are reportedly moving to, colorado, actually has more restrictive election law, restrictions in their law than exists in georgia. it's all such farcical, ridiculous absurdity and that's what so frustrating about. this people decide oftentimes far left wingers what the

narrative is going to be. they apply it to sports, and there are so few people with functional brains in my industry, that they blindly applaud this social justice activism without actually researching election law itself. the state where you're in and major league baseball is based, new york, is far more restrictive than georgia. the place that they just moved the all-star game to, colorado, is more restrictive. delaware, joe biden's home state, i don't remember him for the last 40 some odd years referring to delaware a's jim crow 2.0 laws. these are all lies that are easily refuted if people used their brain, and my industry just fails year after year, month after month, to actually look at the basic facts, and i think it's driving sports fans crazy. >> clay, all your buddies right now are about to text you, am i one of those guys who you think doesn't have a functioning brain

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welcome back. as illegal border crossings surge to levels not seen in 15 years president biden still has not appointed a customs and border protection commissioner. nor has he appointed an ice director. you would think filling these normally crucial roles would be a priority right now. but you would be wrong. >> why hasn't the administration named a commissioner or ice director yet? >> those are certainly important roles and ones that we're eager to fill. i don't have an update on the personnel there. >> that was less than convincing. instead, biden has put vice president kamala harris in charge of the border. kind of. she's yet to hold a single press

conference on the matter but have no fear. she's clearly taking her new job very seriously. >> do you plan to visit the border? >> not today. [laughter] >> but i have before and i am sure i will again. >> she's sure well again. maybe she isn't taking the border that seriously after all. just days ago the white house had to clarify what her actual role would be regarding the border. >> the vice president of the united states will be helping to lead that effort. specifically the root causes, not the border. there is some confusion over that. >> oh, it's the root causes in central america, not the actual border where agents are trying to stem the flow of illegality. what's really confusing is why the biden administration refuses to tell the american people the actual truth about what's happening on our southern border. >> children presenting at our

border who are fleeing violence, who are fleeing prosecution, who are fleeing terrible situations, is not a crisis. >> we're not haggling over language. we're focused on mission. i will not use language that is not applicable. >> i'm not trying to be cute here. we have to do what we do regardless of what anybody calls the situation. >> these surges are cyclical. these are the same kind of surges that we've seen. >> get whiplash watching that clip too many times over. joining us is vice president of the national border patrol council and fox news contributor, author of the fantastic and brand-new book, "they never let a crisis go to waste." we'll get to that in a moment because it applies here as well. i'll start by getting your response to breaking news tonight that border patrol has captured two men on the most wanted after crossing the

southern border and there are others they can't de-volve. >> when you have a border situation that are overwhelmed, you'll have these type of people that are coming across the border with serious criminal records but also that are on the fbi watch list and that was the case out of the central sector where these two men were happen pre-he ended. there are a lot of other apprehensions made on the border that are classified and not subject to public release but this is again what happens when you overwhelm the u.s. border patrol. when you don't support the men and women of law enforcement. >> absolutely. jason, i don't want to be cynical, i don't like to be cynical about stuff like this but your book brings this together nicely. not letting a crisis go to waste. they may not acknowledge there is a crisis but they know there is one.

they may know it's one that they can tolerate for a few months. maybe they think it's a little bit cyclical and as a result the numbers will drop down and then they will be able to turn to washington, d.c. and say we've got hundreds of thousands of young unaccompanied minors who need legal status. we need dreamers 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0. is that it, they look the other way because it benefits them? >> it's a distraction. they take a crisis and use it so they can pass things that they would never, ever, be able to do otherwise. pete, you full well know and garza livers it every single day you don't have to bring in the united states military if there isn't a crisis. it's a national security crisis. it's a humanitarian crisis. it's a human trafficking crisis, and it's a healthcare crisis, and so you combine all of those, you bet in just a couple of months' time suddenly lawmakers

in washington, d.c. will be yelling and screaming and saying, we need to appropriate all of these billions of dollars because of all these people, and because of all the healthcare. what are they supposed to do? when they released these literally hundreds of thousands of people into the homeland what are they supposed to do for food, shelter, jobs, medicine and school? they are going to look to the american people and make us pay for it. >> citizens, taxpayers, ultimately on the look for rampant illegality and open borders. and now hectare, the military is involved. there is now a third military base that will be housing migrant children. is this a capacity issue or is it the more we house children at military bases, does that mean we're just housing more people because we're just letting more people in? >> the change in policies under the biden administration this problem would not have happened under president trump, in the last few months. we were not apprehending

children, unaccompanied children or family units in late 2020. this all happened when president biden took over. unfortunately, you can keep building facilities and all of these locations to hold people and children. people are just leaving their country from central america and all over the world because they know they are getting a free pass into the united states and that's what's frustrating because we're enabling and facilitating smuggling of people into the united states. again, you can build all the facilities you want but you need to stop catch and release if you want to stop this situation on the border. >> jason, do you think there is ever a point another which working class americans, democrats, many of which have already moved -- looked to the republican party and donald trump because of the way they have been rejected by the lowest but do you think there is a point when they look around and say there is only one party that's allowing my community to allow surge of illegal minors and creating social problems that otherwise on the exist and they turn on democrats or are

the democrats going to pull the wool over the media's eye because of their control? >> they do have the traditional media on their side. 2016 is a reflection of why donald trump won because he was strong and tough on the border. absolutely in 2022, it will be a hot-button issue particularly for those border states but interior states are also feeling all of this pressure because they are now shipping all of these people across the country. do you think they are ever going to go through the adjudication process? no. there are less than 24 immigration judges in just the state of arizona. those people are going to take more than 10 years to go through that process. guess what? they are going to get paperwork so they can get jobs and compete against americans for that income. and people are going to start to realize that, from coast-to-coast and you've got to look at it and say why? why does pelosi, biden, and harris want to do this, because they want more power. they think they will get more voters. these people will start to vote

in. california, if you're illegal you can vote in city elections and that's going to move across the country. that's ultimately what democrats are trying to get to. more voters. >> they are way ahead of us. we're talking about voter i.d.'s, they are already giving voter i.d.'s to noncitizens. thank you for enlightening me and depressing me at the same time. i appreciate it. coming up, joe biden uses easter to push his favorite agenda, and china unveils a new film to cover up its human rights abuses. raymond arroyo is here with "seen and unseen" next. in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. scotts turf builder triple action kills weeds, prevents crab grass and feeds your lawn. all three,in just one bag.

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it is time now for "seen and unseen." the segment where we expose the cultural stories of the day. for that, of course, we turn to our fox news contributor and author of the book, "the thief who stole heaven," ramon arroyo.

great to see you. the white house was awash in easter celebrations today. however, the focus wasn't exactly on the holy day. how could that be? >> it wasn't on the holy day. there was no talk of the resurrection of jesus, pete. the president was too busy resurrecting covid. >> for the second year, most will be apart from their families, friends, and congregation. we share the sentiment of the pope that getting vaccinated is a moral obligation. >> why does everything have to go back to covid? must the pope in the holiest season of the year for christians be used to push vaccines. even the easter bunny got used today. though they canceled the annual white house easter egg-roll before an empty south lawn biden appeared with the easter bunny to advertise masking.

>> god bless you all. may god protect our troops, and take care of the easter bunny. he can't even see. >> he's not the only one who can't see, pete. you watch this and think maybe hunter biden wasn't the only one smoking the parmesan cheese. biden has a mask on. jill has a mask on. the person dressed as the easter bunny has a mask on. they are on the balcony alone. what are they doing here? what is this about? >> exactly. is this the one thing we still don't know how to do, raymond, a year and a quarter later, we haven't figured out the masking. a small part of my soul dies every time i have to put a mask on my 3-year-old when she gets on the plane and she can't see because the mask is up here. >> and putting a mask on the easter bunny. when the easter bunny appeared

in the press room, jen psaki made this -- message clear. >> the bunny is using a mask. use every opportunity. >> take every opportunity. you know why they are doing this? biden pulls 73% on the covid issue. they can use that to push these trillion dollar surplus packages and keep the money rolling into washington, d.c. you're spot on with that assessment. i think the easter money wants to win joe biden's 100 day mask challenge. we still don't know who will win that. i've been sleeping at night in a mask trying to win it. maybe the easter bunny will beat me. but hold on. they canceled the white house easter egg hunt. empty lawn but they posted this at home version. what could be more fun for kids, raymond, than this? >> looking for digital easter eggs is like playing virtual tag

or swimming. if you can't do it in person, what's the point? >> i am looking forward to the white house's new game, pete, find easter droppings on the rug game. this will be fun. >> i hope it comes with a virtual pooper-scooper. we'll see how realistic they want to make this for the tots. >> that would be truly realistic. >> it looked like an egg. >> on the desk, too. >> yes. >> it's true. i can confirm that. speaking of propaganda, the chinese are bankrolling a new film to cover up their human rights abuses. you've got to produce a new propaganda film in the northwest region of the country. what is this? >> it's a state-produced musical, of all things, called "the wings of song." the truth is the hills are alive with the sound of mass detentions, pete, but this rural

sing along is set in -- region. that's where reports confirm at least a million muslim leaders are being held in concentration camps. and, look, this is deadly serious business. we're talking about 380 of these concentration camps. mass sterilizations, sexual torture, the women who have escaped are reporting. this is a genocide in real-time. and yet, major league baseball, the basketball association, all these people are doing business with china. nary a peep about what's happening. it's outrageous, pete. >> it's sheer evil, too. think of the resources, the time, the manpower that goes into shifting and shaping the views of a region of people just so you can persecute others. that's precisely what you're looking at when you look at a film like that. >> if they wanted to do a real musical they would have showed scenes like this one and sing "high on a hill."

scooped up their kids put them on trial ♪ ♪ we'll do the same to you ♪ that's the musical they should be do. it's an enraging thing to watch this and see these images of the surveillance state they have eu -- erected throughout this region. >> last take here and a good one. charles barkley was coveringen the final four this weekend. i love watching him cover the game and then the cultural critique. they dropped this timely critique of racial division in the u.s. i need your reaction. watch this. >> i think most white people and black people are great people. i really believe that in my heart but i think our system is set up for our politicians, whether they are republicans or democrats, are designed to make us not like each other, so they can keep their grasp of money and power. they divide and conquer. >> he's right, pete.

you and i were discussing this in new orleans because we don't have these racial divisions here, because we share food, we share festivals, our music, we need to find the things in america that unite all of us and build bridges on those things. not keep pointing to the fissures that separate us. that's what the politicians always do because it empowers them. we've got to stop it. all of us must stop it. >> how is it the guy who said i'm not a role model, i'm not paid to be a role model by being the role model by a truth teller. raymond, you gave one of the best tours you could ever give in new orleans -- >> come back any time. we'll do it again. >> raymond, thank you so much. appreciate it. vaccinations are rising and covid deaths, thankfully, are plummeting. so of course the covid panic pushers, they are sounding the alarm. we'll examine the latest scare tactics next. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss.

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we really are in a category 5 hurricane status with regard to the rest of the world. we're just at the beginning of this surge. >> this variant, 50% to a hundred percent more infectious, it's almost like having a whole

new pandemic descend upon us. >> a whole new pandemic, how convenient that would be for the medical bureaucrats. it would allow them to control your life and our economy even longer. they would love that. of course, this is the same dire warning the expert you just heard, former biden covid adviser, has been telling us for months. what's the reality? joining me now is dr. marty -- professor at the johns hopkins school of medicine and fox news contributor. thank you for being here. are we really in a category five hurricane with regard to covid or are we making progress out of this storm? >> we're doing really well, pete. look, this doctor has a track record of making wrong predictions. he had a book that came out 20 years ago called "how to prepare for coming bioterrorism catastrophe." never happened. he said in 2003 sars would reemerge with vengeance. didn't happen. he testified on sars to the

senate and he said, "i'm convinced we'll see a resurgence of sars." six weeks later it faded away forever. dr. fauci agreed with him. on covid back in january he said the darkest days are still ahead. cases and deaths are down 60%. i don't know why people want this pandemic to keep going. we're doing pretty well with the exception of some outbreaks among younger people who tend to have asymptomatic or mild infections. >> doctor, why is it some people want this covid moment to continue? because it feels that way. >> i don't know. but it's like everybody is making their guess or prediction. i look at some of these other networks and you get doctors on there putting predictions out there. you don't have to guess. all you need to do is look at israel. look at the uk, and what you see there is once you get 50% of the adult population vaccinated, pete, deaths and hospitalizations drop like a rock. we're already seeing it in parts of the united states that have already reached herd immunity. alaska has not had a death in 10

days. new mexico is leading way. they have got 54% of their population of adults vaccinated. they have got 90% of the navajo nation vaccinated. we have about a hundred million people now with vaccinated immunity in the u.s. and another hundred million with natural immunity so we'll continue to see things decline. there are just fewer susceptible people out there. you cannot have that super kind of spreading right now. >> you've done a very important job of making sure they don't keep moving the goal post. the biden cdc can't seem to get its own science straight. look at the disastrous rollout on their latest travel recommendations. >> we state that fully vaccinated people can resume travel at low risk to themselves. cdc is not recommending travel at this time due to the rising number of cases.

i would advocate against general travel overall. >> so you -- if you're vaccinated you can travel but you shouldn't. maybe you can. what do you do with that? >> well, first, be careful what you're hearing from dr. walensky. since her impending doom scare deaths are down 15% in the united states. the medical establishment has lost a lot of credibility particularly with young people, and when we watch these outbreaks among young people, young people who are basically completely disregarding the infection when they should be careful because they are still unvaccinated, i think what's behind some of that is the medical establishment has lost credibility. when you say you can't travel, when you say you can't go to an open stadium or a beach -- >> we've got to leave it right there. taking us to black, final thoughts when we return.

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