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taxpayer. >> and rachel. >> bill de blasio is in hot water again. knight's mayor was seen -- new york city's mayor was seen taking joyrides at coney island. we'll give you all the detail. >> but first, a crisis of leadership at the southern border. president biden's border czar, ambassador roberta jacobson, is stepping down as the number of migrants coming into our country continues to surge. a u.s. customs and border protection report released this week revealed 172,000 migrants were ap rehelped at the border in march, a 20-year high. and the cost for american taxpayers is soaring as well. the biden administration now reportedly spending $60 million a week to shelter unaccompanied minors, amounting to more than $3 billion a year. all the while vice president kamala harris who biden tapped

to lead the administration's effort in mexico and central america has yet to visit the border. former trump acting dhs secretary chad wolf warned today unless the administration cracks town on border crossings, the crisis has no end in sight. >> you're going to continue to see these numbers increase until they start to get serious about enforcement of our laws on that southern border. until they start treating the problem, and the problem is the illegal activity the, and it's not simply trying to build more and more facilities. we should absolutely take care of these folks that come into our custody, but you have to address the illegal activity that's going on to stem the surge that we're seeing today. >> okay. so, ben, i want to start with you on this latest news on roberta that jay sobson, the border coordinator, stepping down. on the one hand, i think it's really bad optics that she announced she'd stepping down at this time. but on the other, the biden administration doesn't seem to be interested in fixing this issue with or without her, so

does it even matter? >> they don't seem to be interested because they aren't that interested, and they're not really demonstrating any kind of focus in terms of a real plan. you know, losing someone who has been, you know, speaking out about this in public for quite some time in roberta jacobson is not a sign of any kind of solid leadership there. and as much nervous kamala harris laughter as you can get, it's not a substitute for actually having a program or a policy that would seek to solve this. instead, the biden administration is reportedly entertaining the idea of doing things like paying central american migrants in order to try to convince them to stay home, money that will just flow out of their pockets and into the pockets of the cartels that will then traffic them across the border, making for all sorts of profit that is going to continue to fuel and fund the cartel violence that we've seen play out there over the past several months. this is not a situation that anyone can have confidence in when it comes to the biden

administration, and yet so many members of the media are allowing them to get away without answering basic questions about their plans to actually solve this problem. >> yeah. and when it was announced that she was going to be stepping down, jake sullivan applauded her for her work and dealing with mexico and the northern trithe angle countries, and, you know, we all thought that's what vice president kamala harris' job was. so ill love some -- i would love some clarification on the difference in their two roles and if there was one. griff, border patrol is totally overwhelmed, and it really becomes a part of the cartel's plan to get these people to them, and they make money off of every single one of these people that are crossing the southern border. so i'd love for you to shed some light on what border patrol is facing right now, what are the challenges they're facing and how they're feeling. >> well, for starters, californialy, they've never faced these kinds of challenges.

they've been overwhelmed and outmanned before. in 2019 the caravans we saw coming, but not like this. that number, 18,890 unaccompanied children in the month of march, never been a month like that in history, up 100% from february, and we all freaked out in february when we saw those numbers. and to ben's point, there is no plan. they basically just undid everything that president trump did. and so when i have talked and reported a lot, particularly even in the mexico border cities, it is controlled by the cartel, 100. so now the problem for the administration is not just how do you stem the flow even if you paid honduran teenagers a weekly allowance are, it's how do you wrest control of our border back from the cartel's control, and that begins with admitting the the -- that they've lost control, and they're not gonna, and the vice president won't go see it. >> rachel, i think democrats can

very easily make the moral argument here these people are suffering, and we should take them in. i so sympathize with that, but i also think they fail to recognize the ramifications of weak borders, and one of them is that bad people will try and cross them very easily, and they could make it into this country very easily as well when you don't have a strong border. >> yeah. i mean, rightfully, there's been a lot of tax on the children that have come across the border because it's such a terrible humanitarian thing to witness, but you're right. the other part of the story is who are we not seeing that's coming across our border, and it's usually drugs and cartel members and drugs and behalf owe sew type people -- mafioso type people. and that's a real problem. ben talked about the triangle countries and the decision by the administration to focus on these as the root cause. the problem with just sending money to latin america while the young, industrious people who should be home in their home

countries calling for reform that you get the money into these the often corrupt governments without the political pressure. you need people there to create this political pressure to get the reform that's needed to really change fundamentally those countries. you know, in addition to the security and other issues. and so what you're doing is you're putting off what needs to happen structurally and fundamentally in those countries so that they can have a safe place and do not want to come to our country. often it is the most, you know, resourceful, the youngest, the strongest, the bravest who leave those countries to make this dangerous, perilous journey to our country. and that's bad for those countries. and, again, we need to help them with security, but just sending money is never the answer. and that seems to be the what the biden administration wants to do in addition to what chad wolf said which is just to, you know, build more facilities in our country, fly them into the interior and give them more

taxpayer dollars here. they're not addressing the root causes. >> can i add to that, carly? even if we were going to send them money, where are we going to get the money? it's not just $60 million per week. the hhs secretary -- spokesman said it's costing $775 per day, per kid. now, rachel's got kids, ben's got a child. i don't spent $775 on east of my daughters -- either of my daughters in probably a whole month. [laughter] but the point is you've got that, you've got shelters popping up let's also not forget the family units that are coming. we just did an i.c.e. contract for hotels worth $87 million. i mean, once we go down the rabbit hole of just paying our way out, we're in trouble, and i think we're already there before we send money south of the border. >> yeah, that's -- go ahead, ben. >> this is the dumbest thing that i've seen put forward by this team, and that includes the obama/biden team since we were talking about isis needing jobs

in order to get to keep them from being terrorists. >> yeah. >> it's just absolutely stupid and short-sight ld, and it will not solve the problem. >> ben, 775 people might be wondering why it costs so much, that's largely because of that staffing and insurance. so it costs that much, apparently, for every single one of those children in hhs facilities right now. ben, what do you think is the biden administration's next move on this? we learned this week that they may be interested in filling in some of the gaps at the border wall. is that a sign that they realize that this is a situation that is totally out of control and they do need to act at this point? >> look, they're between a rock and a hard a place when it comes to their interaction with this issue because of the nature of how progressives and the media covered the trump administration's approach, depicting things that had been done by every administration historically as being fascism on the border and that kind of

thing. so i think that, unfortunately for the biden administration, there is no easy answer here other than to say maybe we shouldn't have been so quick to reject everything that was being done on the border that actually had proven to have results particularly in convincing mexico and the administration there to take some real actions and to prevent people from coming across the border. >> yeah, that's so true. and to everyone at home, don't forget to watch "fox news sunday." chris wallace will speak exclusion uly with texas governor greg abbott, transportation secretary pete buttigieg. they'll talk more about the president's spending plan. you can catch both of those right here on the fox news channel tomorrow at 2 p.m. eastern time. up next, president biden now taking steps that could allow democrats to pack the supreme court. what that could mean long term when we return. ♪ ♪

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back it on up. >> welcome back to the big saturday show. that was the white house, now we're going to talk about the high court. the supreme court is in the spotlight as the nation's highest court is ruling in favor of faith, lifting a covid restriction on religious services in california that limited home-based religious worship like bible studies and prayer meetings. that comes as president biden orders a commission that could lead to court packing. an idea that the president shut down during his time in the early '80s in the senate. watch. >> president roosevelt clearly had the right to send to the united states senate and the united states congress -- he violated no law, he was legalistically absolutely correct, but it was a bonehead idea. it was a terrible, terrible mistake to make, and it put in question for an entire decade

the independence of the most significant body, including the congress in my view, the most significant body in this country, the supreme court of the united states of america. >> and yesterday our own peter doocy, pressing the white house press secretary on president biden's past comments, psaki claims the president's commission is just to study possible reforms. >> the panel's being asked to take a number of steps including the pros and cons on exactly that issue. there are progressives on the court, there are conservatives on the court. people will present different opinions and different points of view, and then they'll have a report at the end of 180 days. >> so, guys, it's old it was a bad idea until i was for the idea. i want to get to that. but, first, let's go to rachel because, rachel, you have covered extensively issues of faith, particularly during the pandemic. in california it was worse than,

perhaps, anywhere. this ruling, what do you make of this ruling that came down yesterday, and is it perhaps moving in the right direction towards governor newsom balancing people going to church? >> yeah. i moon, there's very ex-- i mean, it's very explicit that we have a right to practice and exercise our faith and that the government can't regulate that. so i think this decision was very good. and i think what's really interesting during this pandemic is that a lot of people of faith, a lot of faith leaders are exhibiting a lot of regret about how they allowed the government to classify them as, you know, nonessential and allowed them, people of faith and churches allowed the government to tell them they couldn't open when placed like planned parenthood and bike shops and grocery stores and walmart and all these other places were open. so people have a lot of regret about that. and i think we need to understand why this happened. it's not, you know, just by chance. progressives understand that the family and the church are the greatest obstacles to their

goals. and is so i think they used the pandemic effectively in many ways to diminish the power of the church, of people of faith. and you see right now that after the pandemic there was so much loss in income for churches, at least a quarter of them will not reopen. even after all the covid rules are gone. and more importantly, so many people fell out of the habit of going to church. and so there's a lot of work to be done in the church, but one of the positive signs i see, griff, is that i hear pastors and priests saying never again, we will not fall for this ever again. we won't let the government do this to us. >> all right. now, let's turn to the other high court story ands that is this court packing. we gave you the 1983 version true the ray way back machine, but let's -- through the way back machine. last year what then-candidate biden had to say. >> i've already spoken on -- i'm

not a fan of court packing, but i'm not -- i don't want to get off on that whole issue. i want to keep focused. the president would love nothing better than to fight about whether or not i would, in fact, pack the court or not pack the court, etc. the focus is why is he doing what he's doing now. >> so here we are with this executive order and about 39 people on this commission, they've got 180 days -- ben, i see you smiling. i'm curious what you make of this decision, and the the guy that runs the federalist, one of the people the that's being touted in the bipartisan commission as a conservative is a republican judge under george w. bush that tried to stop judges from belonging to the federalist society. what say you? [laughter] >> well, i think this is a classic example of d.c. stupidity where you basically have a commission that's designed to kick the can at

certain things. looking back on that comment by biden, we see how disingenuous his unity talk really was. this was always a situation where he was going to press ahead as far as he could in order to achieve a progressive agenda and a progressive court which is, frankly, a lot closer than people think. i mean, that decision that you're talking about related to in-home worship in california was a 5-4 decision. you had john roberts on the opposite side away from where other conservatives on the court really were, and that just shows you how weak a lot of the protections are in favor of people who want to practice their and want to live out their religion in serious ways because it is essential to them, as rachel was saying. look, this is a real challenge. it's at the center is of the american culture war. it's an extremely hot button issue in terms of debating it going forward, and i don't think that this commission is going to do any tampdown on that, it's only going to get hotter in certain ways over the coming

months. >> speaking of rage, carly, let me ask you, has president biden been put in a difficult position? this was a progressive idea. progressives wanted this and unfulfilled expectations are a source of great frustration if you don't get it. now the president, if he doesn't deliver on adding justices, does he have a problem with the left? >> yeah. yeah, absolutely. and i keep on thinking back to all of the all caps tweets that president trump posted saying, you know, joe biden is going to pack the court if he becomes president, a million exclamation points. and it's very interesting to take a walk down memory lane to the not so distant past because this was a huge topic of conversation on the campaign trail. pete buttigieg suggested, like, 15 supreme court justices. cory booker wanted term limits. so everybody wanted something a little bit different, but they were all united in their anger that president trump got three supreme court justices. so now the decision making, the

thinking especially on the progressive left is if you can't change the decisions that they're going to make, at least maybe we can try and change the number of decision merricks. and, of course, that would quickly spiral out of control. the supreme court is one of the only institutions left that's totally untouched by politics. they govern -- their rules are constitutional, their job is to interpret the constitution. and if you add supreme court justices, that changes. it does become more of a political body. so, yeah, give, to answer your question, my big question is what happens when this commission announces their findings? this is definitely joe biden kicking the can down the road. he said he was going to do this, he was going to have this commission when he was running for president, and now we have 180 days until he has to finally make a decision. and if he decides that that's the road he's going to to go on, i think it could be very, very difficult for democrats in 2022. that is a campaign ad for republican waiting to happen.

>> that's a great point. 180 days when they get a decision, we will reconvene and talk about it. but coming up, the democrats are redefining the meaning of infrastructure. and some of the things they want to include have nothing to do with roads and bridges. we'll dig deeper into biden's $2 trillion spending bill next. ♪ ♪ keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo

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and now democrats are redefining what infrastructure means altogether. >> we are supporting elder care, care giving economy, making it easier to age in place and have community-based care because having that kind of care infrastructure in place is part of what makes it possible for americans to thrive. >> having the best educated work force in the world. that means all of our kids should have the ability to get a higher education, not leave school deeply in debt. it means that we need a healthy society. >> and new york senator kirstin gillibrand was ridiculed on social media for her tweet saying paid leave is infrastructure, childcare is infrastructure. care giving is infrastructure. so i was actually one of the people who was ridiculing the senator for this. i pointed out that kendall jenner is also infrastructure and, certainly, i had to say that the snyder cup is infrastructure -- >> brunch too. you said brunch -- >> broun. is infrastructure, yes.

[laughter] so, carly, i want to start with you. as the world leader in the population of real housewives, do we need to engage the defense production act in order to insure that america has the infrastructure of botox in order to make sure -- >> oh, goodness. >> -- to continue to fulfill their function in america's world leading capacity this. >> you talking about -- i'm a little concerned about who you're talking about there. not me, right? [laughter] >> not at all. >> okay. >> no, no, no, absolutely not. i know that you're just joking with that comment. your point is taken though. this is not infrastructure, this is a big climate and social welfare spending package with a little bit of infrastructure on the side. there's also a lot of green new deal stuff in there, $174 billion for electric vehicles, $200 billion to retrofit homes to make them, to make them more green. so there is no way that this bill in its current form, this

plan in its current form is going to get any republican support. and it's a real shame because the little bit about it that it has of infrastructure in it is is solid and could get republican support. but this could have been a big win for president biden, a bipartisan win if he stuck to the actual technical definition of infrastructure, but he chose to go a very different way. >> look, i think there are all sorts of things that make america great. joel mchale, for instance, among them. and i'm really concerned we're not using our joel mchale reserves correctly going forward in order to maintain that aspect of american infrastructure. griff, tell me a little bit about the way that the democrats play with this kind of language, where they take something that is very popular sounding -- who doesn't like roads and bridges -- and then use it to brand the entirety of an enormous expenditure that really has very little to do with that. >> welsh ben, we've seen it.

beer is infrastructure. cookies, that's infrastructure. despite the dictionary defining it as simply the public works of a country, state or region. and at the end of the day, you know, as you've covered washington, infrastructure bills -- and there hasn't been one in a long time. former president trump had an opportunity that he really missed, i think, to do it. but in the era that they're bringing earmarks back, everyone can just take it on and bring home the bacon. i think what you're seeing not only the democrats wanting to put it a pretty face on it and call it the green new jobs and other things -- less than 25% -- 75% of this is not infrastructure. but at the end of the day, what you're going to have is the biggest bill ever perhaps on infrastructure coming down the pike after they've spent so much for recovery and relief projects. >> yeah. and, rachel, i feel like this is a situation where, you know,

washington, you know, it's just a normal, accepted version of fact that one man's pork another man's needed infrastructure. it just depends on who hires the money, who hires the best lobbyists, the best influencers in order to get that pushed through. do you think this is a situation where there's going to be any kind of real pushback on this given how they've branded these relief bills and packages beforehand that, again, had very little to do with relief often but were used in order to get that positive bump from the various poll numbers? >> i think the american people don't like this. i mean, the covid bill, that was 9% covid and the rest of it was junk. this infrastructure bill is as fake as pete buttigieg's fake carbon-free bike ride to his office. this is horrible. i'll tell you what infrastructure is, the border wall infrastructure. the keystone pipeline is infrastructure. and the american people know that. and i just think so much, you

know, those of us that have children especially on this panel, what are we leaving behind for our kids? think about what our forefathers, our past generations left for us, you know, something gorgeous and beautiful and long lasting like the golden gate bridge. we're leaving behind debt. and, by the way, nothing of beauty because even the buildings we build these days aren't very beautiful. so it makes me really sad for our country. but as the american people know what infrastructure is, and this is a joke, and i really hope that people are calling their congressmen and their senators whether they're democrat or not and saying we're not going to stand for this. we can't leave our children with nothing, with massive debt, soul-crushing, dream-crushing debt. can't do that. >> everything is infrastructure if your mind makes it so, rachel. [laughter] up next, new york city mayor bill de blasio is out for a joyride at coney island while businesses are till closed and crime is -- are still closed and

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you may pay as little as $10 per prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. ♪♪ >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." i'm rachel campos-duffy. new york city mayor bill de blasio is facing major backlash after he was caught riding a roller coaster at coney island to mark the reopening of the amusement park and other venues. a spokesman saying the mayor was having, quote, too much fun this week. meanwhile, many businesses remain closed citywide. new video shows a group of men harassing nypd officers in the washington heights neighborhood. >> what's that badge number in what's your badge number?

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of those videos simultaneously -- >> sure. >> first of all -- >> go ahead. >> -- i really do want to say that that video we just saw of the group of people harassing the police is so infuriating. and, you know, first people that those guys would call if they, god forbid, got into a tough situation, would be police officers. that's just a really bad video. i hate seeing that. that reminds me of those water videos, of people throwing water on police officers a few summers ago and then cops not -- you had the feeling they couldn't do anything because they knew the cameras were on them and always put in this bad situation. as for bill de blasio, that -- you know, him riding the roller coaster, it's a silly photo op, so i'm not going to really attack him for that, but i do want to draw attention to what his press secretary said about de blasio riding the roller coaster. he said, overall crime rate is down and the number of people facing homelessness is has not increased, more and more

businesses are opening up, new york is winning, and all you wet blankets are losing. shootings have increased 50% in the first quarter of 2021. homelessness not increasing is not the goal. and, yeah, rachel, you did mention that i live in new york city, and i can attest to the fact that the homeless situation in new york city is not good. i recently had to ten over a homeless person -- step over a homeless person who was blocking my apartment entryway to get to work, and it's awful. there was no other place for me to go, buts it is a bad situation. i just totally disagree with the press secretary, what he said there. >> yeah. i was there recently, and i could see that the homeless situation has, indeed, gotten worse. of griff, these people that were harassing the cops, they were pretty brazen. how much does the policies that de blasio has enacted that have been affecting the nypd have to do with this sort of attitude toward law enforcement? >> listen, the attitude toward

law enforcement in this country is the root of many of our problems. and in that video of the guys yelling in the bull horn, let me see your badge number. i want to commend them for the restraint that they exhibit when they just drive away. i have been in so many protests, particularly here in washington as of late where these protesters are screaming in their faces. and when that happens, it is a very difficult situation to deal with. it's not easy to have the kind of restraint that they do, so good on them. but at the end of the day, you know, there was a time in new york when the streets were safer, and as carly pointed out, the homelessness situation is growing. it's growing here in washington. we've seen tons of it out in california. but at the end of the day, until we return some respect and trust in law enforcement, we're going to continue to have videos like this in for the problems. >> yeah, i agree. ben, so i do feel bad for the nypd. i think that they're victims in

terms of these policies and the way they're being fleeted. i don't feel so -- treated. i don't feel so sorry for the residents of new york. they voted for him, including the business owners. don't you get the government that you deserve when you vote for someone like bill de blasio in. >> yes, when you vote for someone like bill de blasio, you're going to have bad things happen in your city. look, what we're seeing is a problem that's spreading across the country. we have a mental health crisis, a homelessness crisis, we have a number of people in cities across this country that need additional help and need to have some good leadership to replace this generational failure, i think, when it came to managing everything that went on over the past year and a half. >> all right. we're going to leave it there. up next, taylor swift's first number one album, "fearless," is getting re-release ld, but will it be a love story for fans all over again when it has all the same socks?

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♪♪ i just can't get you out of my head. ♪ your -- >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." a new study says music can be as addictive as fast food, money and alcohol. scientists say as you hear your favorite tunes, a reward center of your brain is trigger thed, but unlike some addictive behavior, listening to music is good for you, and it's very hard to overdo it. so, griff, i think we've all compiled our lists. what are the songs that you hear that you just can't get outta your head? >> as of late, i've been listening to a lot of dua lipa and peaches -- [laughter] by the biebs. everything he does is fantastic. and every since the mid '80s i've had whitesnake in my held.

the reward center in my brain is being triggered. >> i would love to see you in long hair and tight pants. rachel, what about you? >> you know, he's an old surfer boy, so those photos exist. [laughter] so i put can't help falling in love with elvis presley. today is my 22nd anniversary, and that's my love song with my husband. i love chicken fries by zac brown and, of course, all summer long i enjoy lake life up here in wisconsin and, you know, 8teen, my teens and 20-year-olds have an influence. i just love it. so music is addictive, it's a good addiction. >> it sure is. ben, what about you? >> i have some odd choices. kathleen, i think, is a phenomenal song. here's the meantime by grace potter, but i have to complain

about the entire catalog -- [laughter] of the eagles because my wife has started to play eagles music every morning for our little six-month-old because i guess it soothes her. >> desperado. >> those things stick in your head like ear worms -- ♪ >> i just have to -- the eagles, man. it's just -- i do my best to put up with it, but i just wish that it was not as dominant of a force in my ears all morning long -- >> ben, ben, i was going to say i share another addiction with your wife, and that is bravo. i would rather have the eagles for little baby liberty, right? >> i'm not sure about that. [laughter] i'd have to think about it. i don't know, there's a little andy cohen here and there. [laughter] >> okay.

i absolutely love taylor swift, and speak of music, taylor swift dropped a new version of her 2008 album fearless. the singer promised fans she would re-record her first six albums as a way to regain control over her own material. so is it a savvy business move or are fans wasting their money buying the same old songs? griff, it's not just the same old songs because her album also has, i think, six new additional tracks on it as well. >> they do, indeed, and fair disclosure, full disclosure, i retweeted her tweet that she dropped it a day ago because it's such an unbelievably important album in our lives. now, as the father of two teenage daughters, i will admit i wasn't always on team swift particularly back when fearless first came out. but i'll tell you, it's a smart, savvy move because her previous manager, scooter braun, bought her entire early album, and now

she goes back, re-records those songs, adds some new ones, so when a dj reaches for the old taylor swift song, what do you think they're going to pull? the new one. >> yeah, so true. rachel, i think it's a savvy business move as well. she does not get along with scooter braun who has total control of her albums, so she said, you know what? i'm just going to re-record the songs and make the money and control it in the way that i want my music to be controlled. what do you think? >> yeah, it's totally bad ass. and i would say having six girls, just like griff, i love taylor swift. i wish she hadn't gone political, but i love her. i think it's going to be interesting to hear her more mature voice. >> ben, what say you? >> i think she's an incredible talent, and i think this is a very savvy business move in part because so much of gapdom -- fandom is about expressions of loyalty, and that's what this

really can be. you have some new material as well, but it is kind of an act of expression of affection for everything that taylor swift has meant to the lives of her fans over the years. >> yeah. and only on the big show are we going to go from taylor swift to dinosaurs. could a real life jurassic park be on the horizon? the business partner of a major mogul says they could do it if they wanted to. a look at how they could make it happen coming up next. ♪ ♪ just over a year ago, i was drowning in credit card debt. sofi helped me pay off twenty-three thousand dollars of credit card debt. they helped me consolidate all of that into one low monthly payment. they make you feel like it's an honor for them to help you out. i went from sleepless nights to getting my money right.

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>> t-rex welcome back to the big saturday show. may not as scary as movie but business partner of elon muck saying they have the technology to build a real life "jurassic park" saying on twitter we can probably build "jurassic park" if we wanted to wouldn't be genetically authentic dinosaurs but maybe 15 year of breeding and engineering to get a superexotic novel species, of course, science can go sideways haven't they seen the mauve? all right let me start with you ben because you're the person that i know in washington smart

enough to also recreate dinosaurs i have to tell you i love it. elon musk the guy is mover and shaker and i would seriously really love to see real dinosaur. >> well i think that what you would get is something that approximates a dinosaur and certain respects. but there's no way that the people who are in charge of this process are going to leave it simply to the authentic version of these dinosaurs as you're thinking about them. they're going to go full doctor evil on this stuff you're going to have lasers on their heads, and the ability to shape shift and all sorts of different amazing things. because that's what we know at this point to expect from tesla. elon musk and from that whole crew of very inquisitive people. >> carly will you be in line with me to go to the park when it opens? >> okay well it depends on what the superexotic novel species is like because -- maybe it could be a herbivore and then yes i would love to cut

a very nonthreatening dinosaur like species. but i was recently at the museum of natural history, and now, they say that -- the tran recollection didn't have scales thinking it was more of a feathered type animal. which i was a bit disappointed in. >> before we run out of time. >> chicken -- >> rachel i'll get in here you've seen movies having kids -- >> listen this is a family trip i love dis hawaii but it is very -- very princesse very girl centric everything else that's happening in society. so my son loves dinosaurs. and this is something that i think would be great for boys especially to have something that is really up their alley and i think it would be really fun and elon muck saying he can do it, i believe. >> agreed. >> i think we should host the slow when it opens then carly

rachel, that does it for us. we'll see you back here tomorrow at 5 p.m. eastern for the big sunday show now stay tuned for the "fox report" with jon scott starting right now. ♪ ♪ >> we're following breaking news out of utah where two deputies were shot today leaving one in critical condition. good evening i'm jon scott and this is the "fox report." >> the salt lake county sheriff office says both shot in the face and to init a hospital where one is in critical other in stable condition both are expected to survive. both were part of the jail campus security team police say the unidentified suspect is now dead. jeff paul live in los angeles with the latest on that. jeff. >> yeah jon sheriff? salt lake city gave an update saying one of the deputies was shot in the face and likely be released