thank you for watching "the faulkner focus". "outnumbered" now. >> harris: three straight nights of chaos in the twin cities. the unrest is gripping minneapolis upper brooklyn center, showing no signs of stopping anytime soon, and just last night police arrested 60 additional people. violence towards law enforcement also escalating. protesters throwing bricks and other debris at police officers, and police using pepper spray and french comic flash bangs. the community, as you can imagine, on edge. you are watching "outnumbered." here today, emily compagno, kayleigh mcenany, and her first time on the digital couch, marjorie clifton, consultant to

the obama administration care journey yesterday, former speaker of the house, fox news contributor, newt gingrich is in the center seat. we are expecting to hear about charges today against a former police officer who shot 20-year-old daunte wright. as we learn protesters are now sending their sites on the former cop. the home of kim potter, who resigned yesterday, having to be barricaded after someone posted her address on social media. potter, her husband, and two adult sons have reportedly left the home. newt gingrich, i come to you first. for your thoughts on all of this. >> newt: well, i think you are seeing a war on cops all across the country, and this is a woman who clearly made a terrible, tragic mistake. i suspect that it will haunt her the rest of her life. she is going to be charged, and there is a due process. what is amazing about what is happening right now is you have a trial of the policeman who had

been charged with murder. the trial is underway. it is right there in the same metropolitan area, so there is no argument here that the system won't work. but what you also have is people out looting stores, burning down shopping centers. thrilled at the opportunity to throw things at the police. and this is essentially a war against american civilization by people who, let's be honest, leaders are not protesters. they are leaders. they are protesters. we have to draw the line in portland and in minneapolis and say we are not going to tolerate this assault on civilization. >> harris: you know, i want to get right away, if we can, to the politics of all of this because there are some people on capitol hill who just can't keep their wits about them without jumping right into all of this, so, kayleigh, let's watch this

together. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez tweeted this on daunte wright's death. "daunte wright's killing was not a random disconnected accident. it was the repeated outcome of an indefensible system that grants impunity for state violence, rewards it with endlessly growing budgets out the cost of community investment, and targets those who question the order." let's do another one. congresswoman cori bush also weighed in. this tweet. "the 26 year veteran cop, former president of the police union doesn't know the difference between a taser and a gun, and you say more training would have fixed it? nah, but i bet she would have known the difference is daunte wasn't a black boy or if he was her loved one. kayleigh. >> kayleigh: is so irresponsible when you put those tweets together. what are we being told? you have aoc saying this was not an accident.

she was the head of the officer who did this. then you have congresswoman bush sing this officer was acting from a racist motive as if she too was in the head of this officer, coming on the heels of rashida tlaib calling police officers "government-funded murderers." this is so irresponsible. there is a war on police officers in this country, and this woman, this officer deserves -- i know that the city manager was fired for saying that, but that is the truth. it is a bedrock of our society. this is a tragic, tragic event that happened. his mother will never have her son back, and i grieve for her, but regardless of what happened, and the pain that everyone in the community is feeling, due process is out of bedrock of america's justice system, and that doesn't change. >> harris: marjorie, first of all, welcome to the program for the first time. you have been on "the faulkner focus," so you and i have had our discussions. do you think it is helpful for democrats to weigh in?

i mean, you have the governor of minnesota at one point with his original tweets, i think, the night off, i want to say. outright calling the something that we didn't even know what it was yet. we didn't have all of the evidence to fact-check. >> marjorie: well, what we have is a country that is still holding a lot of pain around race and policing, and we haven't seen really a constructive solution to how we deal with bias, which does exist, and that is a hard reality we have to face. if you are a black mother in this country, it is four times more likely as a black person that you are shot on the than a white person in this country. that is just a fact, and that is a very hard reality. and what we are seeing in the street, and what we are seeing in terms of especially people of color speaking out is the pain and the fear that comes with that, and so i think we have to look at it holistically. and this isolated event, yes, due process, absolutely, this officer should have her day in court, but there wasn't a lot of question about whether she was

in the wrong. she was. you are seeing a larger pain point happening nationwide on the heels of george floyd, his girlfriend, by the way, was the teacher of this young man who was shot, so this is a community wide. >> harris: you know, it is interesting. no one is disputing the fact that a cop knelt on george floyd's neck or that a gun in the hand of the police officer was the reason why there is a young man who is not with us today. but everything has pitched to the lien down my lane of race, and that's why i am asking is that helpful for democrats to weigh in when we don't have all? you have got to be able to prove that. emily, i come to you with your legal background. that sort of case is very different than what marjorie is talking about. right? i mean, when you mix race into it, it is a different type of case. if it is true and it is proven, maybe it is news to just say we

go forward, but if it isn't, then what do we do? what if the facts don't bear out? what is minneapolis going to look like? >> emily: right, well, i think we have seem to marjorie's point, the english and the pain of the community. at what point will that be satiated? i don't know, harris, is any conviction will be enough to quell the unrest that is certainly being stopped by especially democratic leaders. and there have been comparisons being made to the officer shooting and killing of oscar grant in the bay area in 2009 by then officer -- and there, harris, to your point about race, the judge, when imposing the minimum sentence for the conviction that the jury returned, which was basically involuntary manslaughter, so they acknowledged it was unintentional. he is said race does not factor into the sentencing. he said outright i see the

remorse, but yet he has to be accountable for the loss of the young man's life, and he said he might not like this, community. you will not like my sentence. however, i am not factoring in race. and if i may see the rest of my time to marjorie, i am so grateful she is your joining us. marjorie, i know you are an expert in communications and messaging. you have worked with a lot of federal agencies on this, so how do you recommend that these national leaders can acknowledge this pain of communities while not stoking the fire while also pushing for line order, meaningful reform that doesn't vilify the officers? >> marjorie: well, again, i think we have to get comfortable acknowledging implicit bias. we have to acknowledge there is bias, and that doesn't necessarily make someone a bad person. it makes them human person. so, being realistic about that, and acknowledging how that exists in the system from the policies we are passing. when we're looking at the voting laws that are being passed right now in georgia, moving across

the country, looking at community policing, what does that actually look like in practice? and even looking at how we train officers, acknowledging where bias exists and how we train and how we hold accountability. so, i think that leadership has to yes, acknowledge the anguish but call it what it is cute you cannot deny that racism does exist in our country, and it is something we've got to -- >> harris: look, with all due respect to your answer, i think he walked past when emily was trying to ask, so i will be more so think about it. >> marjorie: okay. >> harris: when you see somebody like an aoc or whoever it is that may weigh in in this way, where are they? why not go to some of these scenes where some of these people are marching at night? by the way, dr. king only did that during the daytime, so they would have to be willing to do that during the night with all of these people that are throwing bricks and show some leadership they were the ground. if these people are thirsty to be heard, why not go there and

hear them? but shouting from your twitter account and putting incendiary things in about race, those are democrats doing that, full sale. >> marjorie: well, yeah, and i understand what you're doing, and i do think that we saw in terms of byte and calling out we have got to have constructive conversations on this and showig leadership, that is a constructive way of dealing with that, but i have to also acknowledge as a woman of color, i'm sure aoc carries her own frustration, her own hurt. i agree. >> harris: well, we all do. >> marjorie: it is not a super constructive way for politicians to share their feelings. it we have come off of an administration where that is the president that was set, so i agree with that point. >> harris: it really matters. senator tim scott and i talked about being pulled over driving while black. i was born in the south. i have had some things happen, but they are not in my present day conscious with everyone that i come into contact with.

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>> parts of our country are backsliding to the days of jim crow, passing laws that hearken back to when black people were made to guess how many beans, how many jelly beans and a jar or count the number of bubbles on a bar of soap before they could cast their ballot. >> harris: that's president biden a short time ago condemning recent g.o.p. efforts in georgia and some other states to impose new voting laws, saying they mark a return of the days of jim crow. the president made the remarks to al sharpton's national action network, and it's hardly the first time he has actually use that language. >> this makes jim crow look like jim eagle here and i will do everything to keep that from coming. >> this is jim crow on steroids, what they are doing in georgia and 40 other states. >> these new jim crow laws are

just not who we are. when they are in fact, move out of georgia, the people who need help the most, people making hourly wages. sometimes they hurt the most. >> harris: news, i come to you on this. >> newt: well, luck. it is a complete and total lie. he knows that the lie. the first time he's at it, i think he said it because he was asked to buy georgia activist stacey abrams, who, by the way, got jim crow 2 is a website. this is an explicit, clear lie. everything they said about the georgia law is false. patently. moving from georgia, moving to a state that has worse laws. not better laws.

there are eight times as many employees of black-owned businesses as there are in colorado. so you are watching the president of the united states consistently, deliberately lie. it is not true. you can go online, google the bill, read it for yourself. the things they say about it are explicitly false. and i can't understand why you would stake your presidency on being the chief liar. >> harris: you know what? let's move that question over to kayleigh mcenany. i mean, this is on the first time that we are hearing that the president is not being genuine when he calls this the jim crow legacy point. jim crow 2.0. what does that get him politically? >> kayleigh: it doesn't get him much at all. in fact, i read 1:that his approval on race relations in quelling some of these issues is far below the majority.

so, it doesn't get him much, but newt could not be more correct in saying that it is a lie. you see a repeat at 70 times. he should be called up for this. let's be very clear. during the jim crow era, black americans who want to devote were threatened, they were beat. some of them have their homes burned down. some even lost their lives. i georgia bill that expands voting opportunity, that says it is unlikely to affect turnout, s not jim crow. that is just factually obvious to anyone who has an understanding of history. not to mention the fact that 70% of black americans support voter i.d. which is what this georgia law is changing. it is so ridiculous, what he is saying. it is an absolute lie, and i'm glad that finally "the washington post" is calling him out. >> harris: marjorie, what is the president trying to say here? >> marjorie: well, he is trying to call out what known

about the widespread and 43 states election laws that are happening, which will create very, very difficult barriers to voting for 190 million voters, and that is a fact of the legislation, so the difficult part of this is that those are disproportionately people of color. so the question is if you define jim crow by setting up laws that create barriers for people of color, that is what they are. it is a very effective way to insight the democratic base, but when you look at republicans and democrats, when you poll republicans on voter access, they support expanding voter access, and what is brilliant about the way that these laws are written as they talk about standardizing, which means decreasing locations, especially in urban centers. so you have got to be realistic looking at this. you will see the spirit 400 corporations came out today speaking against these laws across the country. >> harris: yeah, yeah, i see that corporate america is

weighing in. i do you get that. i don't understand their decisions, for instance, as newt gingrich pointed out, why take the mlb all-star game from georgia to colorado when georgia actually has more early voting days and about the same voter i.d. situation that you have in colorado? and a lot of states do. corporations, i think, are in a different boat, and they have to be careful about who they hurt, by the way because many of the people that they hurt are black-owned businesses. emily, the reason i ask what is it about this law when you have so many other states that are looking at it this way that has the president talking this way, is there no other rebuttal to it? and to make it about race? >> emily: right. i think so, harris. remember when the official came on this network and when pressed to say what about the law is actually oppressive, what about

the law is actually racist and reduces voter access, and she said well, actually, it was the context. so to your point, it is not about the dash it is about the broader environment. i have to say that for a president who has had almost 50 years of experience representing constituents, who is a coauthor, one of the authors on one of the greatest incarceration bills, he touted that in his campaign, his relationships across the aisle, it is incredibly reductive and oversimplified for him to be using this language. and i expect more nuance from impure and more accuracy. has he been to a prison? >> harris: all right. everybody saw me put my glasses on because we have breaking news. i am looking down now. i want to be able to give you the details. it is now being widely reported, however fox news has not independently confirm, we are working to, that officer kim potter will be charged with second degree manslaughter in the death of daunte wright, a

black man who was shot while she and other officers were responding to him in a traffic stop. he was inside his vehicle when the police chief says she pulled, instead of a taser, a gun, and fired upon daunte wright. the police chief and defensively, as she has said that that was a mistake. the charges against kimberly potter are coming just a day after the police chief and potter both resigned after the brooklyn center police department. so, i come back to you. cases like this, the evidence, what are they looking out at this point to make these charges? and why this particular charge? >> emily: right, so to answer your second question first, this is not culpable negligence standard, so it is essentially saying charging that they negligence exhibited was so much has to be considered criminal. and there in minnesota, the

sentencing guidelines recommended a four year sentence for that. we talked about earlier the case of oscar grant. he was a young african-american man that was shot and killed by a transit officer in 2009. there to your point about the charges, he was charged with voluntary and involuntary actual murder and manslaughter, and there, the evidence really was the video. that too, they caught it on video. i will likely be the case here as well. and it just goes to that conscious disregard, reckless disregard appeared a little bit below that standard where it is negligence. if i may read the statute, it is by the person's culpable negligence whereby that person creates an unreasonable risk and consciously takes chances of great bodily harm to another. and so -- >> harris: yeah, i just want to follow-up and ask because again this is being widely reported that she will be charged with second degree

manslaughter. you have talked about why that particular charge, and you sent negligence, so much that it should be considered criminal. so, that's why she is being charged. my question would be what are the circumstances? and i often will hear you say, emily, mitigating circumstances in this particular setting. you had other officers around. you have her yell here you can hear all of us on the videotape. i believe it is her body can that is picking it up. expletive, "i fired my gun." she kept saying "taser, taser." and then not taser, gun. >> emily: right. so their defense will be that it doesn't rise to that criminal level. she will show room morris, things that factor into the sentencing. that officer, to just point out that similarity, deep remorse. he took the stand in his

defense, he tearfully testified that he thought it was his taser when he actually shot and killed oscar grant. we will probably see the same thing here if she chooses to take the stand. according to reports, potter has retained earl gray, and he is also representing the former minneapolis police officer, thomas lane, who is one of those officers charted in george floyd's death, so to your point about the community earlier, that remains to be seen as well. that video is going to be all of the evidence. they will introduce training, the lack of federal standards. but ultimately, it will come down to believability, the objective, reasonable standard that the jury will have, and it will come down to whether they believe that she honestly thought it was her taser gun and therefore, if so if that is culpable negligence. >> harris: wait a minute. you say it is going to come down to training, lack of federal

standards. for whom? the defense? this woman has been on the force for 26 years. she was reportedly training another person's day. that person was with her. >> emily: that will be the prosecutor's argument, and defense will argue that the training she received, it wasn't enough fear they will say that she honestly made this mistake. there will be a degree of separation there, and to your point, b6, i think there is already a skepticism that you can articulate that the jury will likely say it's where you wear it on different hips, this doesn't happen to everyone else. you are 26 year veteran. you should have known better. exactly. all of those. >> harris: you and i, emily, have done this thousands of times. we will go back and forth. newt, the word you are not hearing you say is "race." because there are so many other parts of this case and evidence, and i think about brooklyn center. my husband and i met, dated not

too far from there, so we know this area very well. we were both in that market. you look at all of this, and you wonder, the communities there, how they will be torn apart. but we are talking about the facts and evidence, and i don't know that that permeates the emotion that is on the ground. >> newt: well, it doesn't. you mentioned that president biden has spoken to al sharpton's action network. sharpton made a career, became famous over a career which he said it was, which in the end turned out to collapse totally and to be alive. so there are people out there working very hard to turn this into our race issue, to turn it into an anti-police issue, et cetera. we are really in trouble as a country. you need to understand that. when you have, for example, walgreens closing every single drugstore that it owns in

san francisco because the crime is so bad. when you have night after night riding in portland. no matter what the official say. when you watch what's happening right now in minneapolis for an brooklyn center. we need to understand, we have a large number of people who desperately want to find an excuse for tearing apart america. and when you look at what aoc actually sent, look at what the squad actually said, they are just falsehoods. they are not true. it is hard to believe that even she believes that this is a plan to, deliver a thing. 26 year veteran who has had to evacuate her house because somebody maliciously pointed out where she lived, and the mob -- that's what it is, so that the mob could attack a policewoman. and i think there is tragedy on both sides here. but we are at a point in this country where one faction doesn't want tragedy. it wants to create tragedy.

it wants to exult in tragedy. it wants to cheer itself by the amount of violence i can create. and we have to confront that sooner or later, that this civilization is going to survive. we have to confront those who would be violent, destructive, and criminal. >> harris: marjorie, is there enough room -- is there enough grace and space among people of color, among people not of color, in this country, to sit down and have this kind of honest conversation? to hear the point of view of people of color, and why there might be fear by men and women being pulled over in some municipalities by some cops. is there enough room, then, to hear the police are also heroes and that we cannot live in a society without law, order, law enforcement? cannot be had? are we so woke as a country that until we all agree that everybody is a victim and everybody has got to fix it,

that we can't go forward? where are we? >> marjorie: i mean, i hope we can because i sit in rooms as a white woman, having conversations with people of color, and the things i hear are not a desire to racialized everything, but a desire to acknowledge the reality both of -- and by the way, of black police officers that i have sat in rooms with. and all of these folks acknowledge that absolutely, police are a critical part of our society's and safety, but how we police also has to acknowledge the other reality and the racial history of our country and what that looks like for people of color. and i don't think that people of color want to walk around looking for, you know, to be disenfranchised, to be left out, to be fearful. so, yes, we have to find a way to get communities together, to listen to how laws work on the ground.

and of the experience -- i have worked with both police officers as well as civil rights groups, and i have sat in those rooms with those groups together, but it will take, i believe, politicians and others fostering a space where we are allowed to have that dialogue. i believe that that is needed. >> harris: we hope that the president of the united states can continue to wait for the evidence and lead, based on the fact that we are also not a monolithic race. emily. >> emily: just a point of clarification for viewers, to underscore the guidelines, for that for years, the maximum sentence is ten. so there is a potential chance for her if she is convicted on this to serve up to ten. >> harris: all right here police officer formerly now because she and the police chief resigned yesterday. kim potter likely to be charged with second-degree manslaughter, a prosecutor is telling us. we move on. after three weeks of relative silence by vice president

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>> emily: welcome back. new reaction from vice president kamala harris on when she said she will visit the border as part of the administration's response to the border crisis. the announcement comes 21 days after president biden put her in charge of the situation. the vice president still has yet to hold a formal press conference on what is happening, but here's what she said this morning after a virtual roundtable on the consequences of migration from the northern triangle countries. watch. >> the president has asked the secretary to address what is going on at the border, and i have been asked to leave the issue of the root causes, traveling. hopefully as my first trip to the northern triangle, stopping

in mexico and guatemala. >> emily: mr. speaker, i am curious your thoughts on this, especially as she is tasked with confirming or identifying those root causes. hasn't it been obvious to everyone for decades? >> newt: sure. we all understand what the challenge is. you have millions of people, gallup estimated recently 44 million people around the world who would like to come to the united states because despite our weaknesses, we are a remarkably free country. you are economically better off if you are going to raise your child in el salvador or guatemala. have the child have a chance to have a future in the u.s. by every reasonable standard. you are going to decide that you want to live with your uncle or aunt who came here 20 years ago, so there is an entire industry. at least two cartels now which i've given up drug dealing for moving human beings.

they tried to make sure that the customers are happy. they get them into the u.s., and the customer agrees to pay a pretty good bit of money. sometimes because they have relatives here who will pay for them. sometimes they end up being forced into prostitution. it is not just the border countries. people from china, india, africa. when we were living in rome -- she was in the vatican. he saw a huge number of people coming in from africa. this is a worldwide challenge. some places are really well off, and some places aren't. the people who aren't well-off have a totally human desire to get to the places that are well off. and we are just handling it as about as badly as you can. >> emily: rights. human smuggling is the second most lucrative global illicit

industry, of course i can to drugs. kayleigh, along with this back drop, they have dropped 75%, and your thoughts on that? >> kayleigh: that's exactly right. you can go category by category. see how these priority arrests have dropped. it is deeply irresponsible of the biden administration to ignore the problem. kamala harris should absolutely go to the border, just as vice president mike pence did. just as president trump did. if you want to understand the root cause of the problem, you want to go see the problem. but kamala, boy, she is going to have a really interesting trip on her hands. she is going to visit the mexican president, who blamed him for what is happening on the border. that she is going to the guatemalan president, which just yesterday came out and said that the biden administration messaging has been "confusing" and has been repurposed and used by coyotes to tell parents give

me your children. i will deliver them to the united states, and we will call you once we get there. these are the words of two world leaders she is going to go to interface with. we will see how that goes. >> emily: marjorie, is the vice president -- her actions and her messaging, are those enough? >> marjorie: just a visit, no. absolutely, we have got to deal with where the root cause is coming from. there is a humanitarian crisis in central america that is causing people to send their children over. this is a different kind of migration that we have seen from countries like africa and otherwise. our broken immigration system, but when we see 20,000 children coming over the border, there is something deeper going on, so solving what that is instead of trying to cut things off at the border, which is a game of whack-a-mole. that is a bigger process. >> harris: wow.

they tell reporters that they are coming because biden's that we had 100 days to come. bring your kids. i mean, i don't -- i don't think that is all that difficult to understand. when the people who are doing at our explaining it to you in two different languages. english and their own. we need to toggle back. new reports now that minnesota prosecutor will charge former police officer kim potter, who fatally shot 20-year-old daunte wright, but the charge will be second degree manslaughter. the shooting, as you know, has ignited three nights of violence and rioting with many protesters looting and stealing from businesses, crippling the local economy potentially this goes on. those crimes -- let's not call this anything else. this is not peaceful protesting that you are watching. there might be some going on, but what i just said, those are

crimes. prominent voices and organizations on the far left are defending the looting. even -- here it comes, redefining it. here is a tweet. "i'm definitely in the camp of defending rioting and looting as a legitimate politically informed response to state violence. " another with "i'm amazed at the same liberal folks that expected black protesters to be peaceful also support the police violently responding to the looting." and a far left organization tweeted this. "acts of material liberation should not be filmed." okay, so you want to commit crimes, but you don't want anyone to see it. kayleigh. >> kayleigh: it's crazy, these tweets you have just put up. what's even crazier, if you go read this article, it talks about the 31 times the media has actually justified as rioting, explained it away. the headlines are just remarkable. the bottom line as all of these folks who are defending rioting

are in fact enabling a much more violent situation. national review cited a study that found in the five cities where viral incidents with the police takes off and result in writing, that they actually saw 900 access homicide deaths, so this leads to death, destruction, chaos, and i would just say to all of these rioters into those enabling it, the words of martin luther king said "socially destructive riots, self-defeating, and i will continue to condemn riots and continue to say, my brothers and sister, this is not the way." let's follow in the footsteps of the great martin luther king jr. >> harris: so, newt, i pointed this out last hour. the police have technical language for what a riot is, which allows them to use different crime-fighting materials and methodology and methods to go forth to disperse a crowd. it is not some emotional response. "oh, my gosh, they are having a

riot." it is not bad. it is "oh, my gosh, they are having a riot. they are committing crimes. we need to deploy different types of policing in order to quell the crowd." why is the far left responding to it in this way, like just go ahead and do what you've got to do? do they want a safe space for crime? >> newt: well, yeah, of course. the far left, which includes a lot of the news media wants to tear down american civilization. it is not complicated. i was going to mention in your last question about why are people coming? what is the root cause? democrats just passed a bill do you get illegal immigrants $15,000. now, do you think people in guatemala can't figure out -- get to new york, get 15 grand? mayor, cuomo wants you to be happy. remember that kamala harris is basically for open borders when she was a candidate. the idea that she is not going

to lead a serious effort is a joke. i don't think it is a crisis of the white house -- i think they like having another several illegal immigrants? put them on the bus system, sending them all over america without any testing for covid, without any knowledge of who they are, any knowledge of what is going to happen, and then we think why did it happen? they are getting a free bus ride. and if they get to the right state, the democrats will give him 15 grand fear not a bad deal. >> harris: i just rode down that the pandemic is something we haven't gone to. and since kayleigh mcenany is the only person on this panel who has been with the past president who was enforcing title 42, making sure that we did were doing the things that we needed to do in the middle of the pandemic, i want to get your final thoughts on this topic. >> kayleigh: you had a president in president trump is that how can we solve this with a common sense message?

that was let's go to the president, let's negotiate to have tripped on the mexican border. you have biden come in, and he said let me go back and negotiate shapes on the border with mexico. that is common sense, indeed. then you have the dhs secretary saying is that we may plug some of the gaps in the wall. these are all admissions of what president trump did, brought down illegal immigration. sometimes it is just common sense. not that simple if you are not letting the progressive aocs of the world acted as if we are their marionette puppets, pulling the strings. >> harris: well, you can depend on them. aoc hasn't been at the border, taking photo ops. okay, we've got to move on. just ahead, black lives matter organization defending its cofounder is $3 million portfolio. calling the criticisms "our

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>> coming up, president biden will be delivering remarks on afghanistan, withdrawing all troops from there by

september 11th. reaction to that. plus the third night of violence and brooklyn center. to the officer will be charged with second degree manslaughter. major blow to the biden administration's messaging on the covid vaccine. the cdc emergency meeting will be taking place next hour. we will be watching for that. come join john and me live from d.c. in new york at "america reports." top of the hour. >> harris: they are on the defensive. black lives matter, the organization, to send an cofounders patrisse khan-cullors amid reports that she spent more than $3 million buying properties in los angeles and georgia. the statement claims that criticism from the right "continues the tradition of terror by a white supremacist against black activists." what is not about, emily? >> emily: well, if i may, i just want to point out an interesting note in her instagram post that she just said what she attributed it to

white supremacy. it is not just about the lies in these articles that are being written about me. it is also dangerous. she said that she was doxxed, even though no private information such as address as was published. the other side of the coin, which is right now kim potter in minneapolis, whose home is now vacated as crowds are surrounding it. tense and concerned as well, so indeed, doxxing is indeed a very scary when it happens to you. >> harris: when it actually happens. you know, marjorie, there is an investigation that was reported by this organization when the story first broke because they want to make sure that money was not taken from many sources that had to do with donations given to the blm organization. that doesn't have anything to do with white supremacy. that is just plain old where did you get the money. >> marjorie: yes, but why is there a fascination with her personal wealth?

i can understand wanting to audit and make sure she is not getting paid by black lives matter. >> harris: that is her own organization. >> marjorie: she was paid as a spokesperson, and that is what they came out with, but the bigger question for her is she is one of the leaders of black lives matter. it is a target. and there are police records and fbi dockets that will evidences, so you do become a target. sharing where someone's location is, that is a liability. the other is why is there a fascination with her as a black woman that there isn't over other leaders and their wealth and where it comes from? so, economics or power, and i can be threatening, so i can understand that piece of it. >> harris: newt. >> newt: look, i'm a conservative. i think it's okay for people to make money. as long as she did it legally. more power to her. she is actually proving that america is a pretty good place for a black woman. it kind of undermines our core

argument, so i am for her having 12 houses if she can afford them. and i just wish she would acknowledge that america has been pretty good to her and could be good to a lot of other people. >> harris: kayleigh, click thought? >> kayleigh: the fascination comes because she is a self-proclaimed marxist who has spent her life studying socioeconomic theory critical of capitalism. she said we need a new economic system because indeed to this one is a present. well, boy, it wasn't present for her beauty came from humble beginnings, did quite well. good for her, but the fascination comes from her marxism. >> harris: she might want to talk to her own organization if they are planning any further investigation. we will cover that when it happens. more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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the police officer those charges were confirmed. we can confirm them. more to report. we will get to it here on fox news. what an hour. good to see you guys. "america reports" now. >> sandra: the officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man in minnesota who resigned yesterday as you just heard now facing a second degree manslaughter charge. we learn more. i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am john roberts. welcome to "america reports" on wednesday police said kim potter meant to grab her taser. reuters reported that potter was arrested this morning.