it's okay. it doesn't cost anything to be nice. >> bret: end with a kiss. quick viewing note. martha maccallum hosts special coverage of prince philip's funeral make sure to tune in for that. thanks for inviting us into your home. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. fox news prime time hosted by lawrence jones starts right now. have a great weekend, lawrence. >> lawrence: thanks, bret, i enjoyed the "notable quotables." [laughter] >> bret: see you, buddy. >> lawrence: thanks, my friend. welcome to "fox news primetime." ♪ >> lawrence: hi, i'm lawrence jones. and tonight the media is slowly starting to catch up. ever since he burst onto the national scene last year, dr. anthony fauci has become one of the most recognizable people in america. he is everywhere, on every channel, at every briefer. he is even on every cover of every magazine. dr. fauci is on the national tv more than jlo he is not as cute

as her, of course, every time he is on he is doing his best to warn the american people about the status of the pandemic. he has never been wrong, not about masks, not about social distancing, and certainly when he said we only needed two weeks to slow the spread. in the eyes of the left and the media, dr. fauci is untouchable. criticize fauci and you will be smeared as being antiscience. question the origin of the coronavirus, and say it may have come from a lab, you are a conspiracy thirst. theorist. i found it very interesting had this week we heard from a "the washington post" columnist josh rogan this: >> i often talk to scientists who say the same thing say listen we really want to speak out about this but we can't do it. why can't we do it? we get all of our funding in nih or niaid which is the national association of infectious diseases which is run by dr. fauci for years and years and years. so we can't say anything like oh, gain of function research might be dangerous or it might

have come from the lab because we are going to lose our careers. we're going to lose our funding. we are not going to do the work. lawrence lawrence it's important because dr. fauci is the highest paid federal employee. rumored he makes more than the president. when it comes to public health community is he one of the most powerful. so the message is just simple. criticize fauci at your own expense. now why would dr. fauci want to silence his peers from talking about this crazy theory that the covid-19 came from a chinese lab? >> the head of the funding, the head of the entire field, really is anthony fauci. he is the godfather of gain of function research as we know it. now, that, again, just what i said there is like too hot for, you know, tv because people tonight want to think about the fact that our hero of the pandemic, dr. fauci, might also have been connected to the research which also might have been connected to the outbreak. '. >> lawrence: you see for years the national directors of heldal

health funded the study that made bat coronavirus more powerful it only took a year for the press to start asking if there was a connection. >> we don't have a media environment where we can have that kind of discussion where we can say okay, listen, you know, scientists are good people. they were trying to prevent the pandemic. maybe their research got out of hand. maybe in this chinese lab there was a bunch of other stuff going on as the biden administration and the trump administration said. and maybe we've got to get to the bottom of it. is that too much to ask? >> lawrence: get to the bottom of it i guess better late than never. joining me now is steve hilton host of the next revolution and one of the first people to question fauci's role in the origin of the coronavirus. steve, you were one of the first to do this and they called you a mad man. >> exactly, lawrence. for the reasons we just heard there. you can't question dr. fauci. there's a cult of fauci right across the media. and the reason it's so important that we do question all of this is not anything personal against

dr. fauci, no one, least of all me, has ever said that he tried to do anything deliberately, that he would ever cause harm deliberately. he has dedicated his entire life to fighting disease. but, the point is that his research, which he actually argued for, decade ago, saying that it was a risk worth taking, his words, to engineer dangerous viruses in the laboratory in order to learn how to fight them, he has funded the kinds of research as we have documented on our show the next revolution sunday nights that actually is directly caused, directly related to the pandemic virus that leaked from the chinese lab. can you blame the chinese government for allowing the virus to leak. you can blame them for the cover-up. the question we have to ask is whether u.s. taxpayers are actually paying for the research that eventually ended up as the pandemic virus. if there is even a remote possibility that that's the case, then we should investigate it. but, actually, as we have laid out, it's not just a remote

possibility, it's actually looking like the most likely explanation. if anyone wants to see the detail in our investigation, they could just follow me at steve hilton at steve hilton on twitter. we will retweet tonight all of the segments that we have done on my show laying out in forensic detail the connections between the research that dr. fauci's institute funded and the pandemic virus. >> lawrence: yeah, so i hope you don't get banned from twitter for saying that. just give us a brief preview of the connection between the money and the lab because, you know, 'when people hear that, they are going to attack you, you know that. to just give us a preview of that. >> the purpose of this research, gain of function research, is to understand where the next pandemic could come from. it's got a noble intent. in 2014 dr. fauci's institute commissioned an organization called ecohealth alliance ran by a guy called peter dazak peter

and the wuhan institute were the world leading experts on bat coronavirus. they were asked to investigate where the next spillover as it's called from nature to humans could happen. one of the techniques that were specified in the project documents that are publicly available on the government website is, as you noted, to try and make these viruses more contagious in the lab so that we could understand how it might affect humans. one last point i would make on this. it's exactly right. as josh rogan said, that scientists are frightened of speaking out because they are funded by the nih. by the niaid and that's why they don't want to cause trouble. they don't want their research to get cut. there is one scientist we spoke to that went on the record dr. richard ebright of rutgers university. he said specifically that theee

newly of this project in 2019 by dr. fauci's institute represented gain of function virus research of concern. it should have been flagged in a review. it wasn't. the process was bypassed and that is what the media should be asking questions about. again, we are not saying that anyone did anything to ill intent. this was an accident, it looks like. but, surely, given the facts of so many deaths, the devastation around the world, we should be wanting to know about the origins of this pandemic to make sure that we are right now not funding the same kind of research that could lead to the next one. >> it's amazing that you haven't received not one apology when you are the first person to bring this out to the forefront. meanwhile the medical professionals knew all about this. now, the ron desantis got himself into some trouble earlier this week when he said this. take a look. >> yeah, if you get a vaccine,

the vaccines are effective. you are immune and so act immune. if you tell people the opposite, then, gee, you know, why if it's not effective for them and it's not going to change anything then what's the point of going through it? >> lawrence: i mean, it makes sense, right? >> exactly. as governor desantis has been making sense all along. he has called it right at every stage of this pandemic. right at the beginning when we had the scientific data that the virus mostly affected elderly people. it was governor desantis that locked down the nursing homes where the most vulnerable were rather than the whole economy. over and over again, he has taken the right common sense approach, informed by scientists and by the way talking of media censorship, the scientists that he has been talking to round table last week, guess what? youtube banned the video of that from circulating because it didn't fit their view of what the science really is.

governor desantis has been right all along. >> lawrence: wow. it's amazing that a lot of people aren't able to speak up in support of the governor on the national stage when they know for a fact that he has done a better job at his leadership than our governor right here in new york city. this is shameful. the facts are the facts. anyway, steve, thanks for coming on. >> thank you, lawrence. >> lawrence: now this from fauci to cuomo the quality of our leaders are going down the drain. the next is governor whitmer who has had some of the strictest lockdown rules in her fate of michigan. yet, she seems surprised to learn that the cases are going way down -- way up. >> we are seeing a resurgence of covid all across our state and i think some of it is because we, as a nation, cannot rally to beat this virus. when you have turned on one another and this virus has taken an incredible toll on us. we in michigan still have smart policies in place. we do still have a mask mandate. we still do have capacity requirements and we have some of

the strongest protocols in the country and yet this virus has come raging back. >> lawrence: here now charlie la did you have investigative reporter and pulitzer prize winning journalist. charlie, you are a michigander. tell me about this governor. she seems so surprised that even when the state had all this power and they locked everything down that the numbers are still increasing. >> i'm not an epidemiologist and i think everybody watching knows about this governor. but the governor the people around her aren't very smart. first we locked it down and now what we are doing is basically wide open. level exploded in michigan. 2,000 a day now 10,000. instead of locking it down again like her base wants she decided it's going to be wide open. nobody is -- i don't want to say nobody is dying but they are not

dying at the levels. we have 30 people dying a day and it was 200 a year ago. so, those that supported her mandates are looking at her like what is going on with you? and the people that were against her mandates are rubbing her nose in it and she doesn't know which direction to go because those around her aren't very sophisticated. >> it's interesting, this governor, because, you know, she all these lockdowns yet her husband wants to take his boat out. staffers want to go to the beach. it just makes me wonder does she believe this stuff? does she really believe in the science that she has been dishing out to all the rest of the people? maybe, just maybe all these rules are just for the little people? >> it could be, look, me and another writer we found out like her two covid specialists the one that distributes the vaccine and the ones that makes the rules, they both beat it for spring break down into florida. they went to margaritaville

while we were told up here don't move, be responsible. well we catch them doing it and now the governor says, well, i didn't say there was no travel. there has never been a no travel ban. this is the one year anniversary of the travel ban where we couldn't go to shacks and cottages up knot except her husband. so you understand sort of the glee from the people that were fighting her tooth and nail and the disappointment from the people who backed her and if you really want to know what's going on, i think the data is polling data. because i got a little news for you. there was -- before the margaritaville scandal. before the bickering with biden, before rerealized we have 360,000 unordered vaccine shots while the vaccine person is down in florida keys, what we find out is this, march 1st the poll comes out whitmer is in a dead heat with former u.s. congressman candace miller who used to be the secretary of state and is currently, get this, the mccomb county drain

commissioner. that's just one name put out there, i think she is looking and it's starting to slide. she is losing her pace. she has lost the right for sure. and the middle is looking for something competent. >> lawrence: so, charlie, i have got to ask you this because you are a reporter. you have been looking into her. what's next? i mean, you already got a nursing home scandal going there as well. what do you know? >> who could tell? look, let's be honest here about. look at what we did in michigan. whitmer copied cuomo. you know that what do we do with the nursing homes? what they did over there. right? what do we do about locking it down for a bit? divine down there? now, they don't have this problem. and this administration is running around, they are not very sophisticated in the ways of governance, they are smart people. but the messaging is messed up. can we go? can we not?

we have 10,000 cases and we decided now to do nothing? >> well, charlie, the democrats turned on cuomo. maybe they are going to turn on her as well. >> look, you know, that's the interesting part. politically. remember, this is about our lives, right? so this is the parler game. but, people are wondering why neither of these two covid specialists, take head off. show you are a leader. they throughouterred their nose. whitmer specifically told we the people don't go to florida specifically unless it's important. i don't know about these women and their hot spots and their ability to conduct business in the back of a subaru going down highway 10 but the president of the united states was on the phone his people were calling our approach to this explosion back a monthly. whack a mole. new york we wanted your vaccine. >> lawrence: charlie, this is why people don't trust these

vaccines they tell us to do one thing and they do another. more and more can is coming out. we know you will be following it thank you for joining me. >> thank you, brother. >> lawrence: how the biden white house just caved after a liberals aoc over the decision to try to cap the number of refugees being allowed into the u.s. kayleigh mcenany former white house press secretary standing by next. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ comfort in the extreme. ♪♪ the lincoln family of luxury suvs.

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. >> lawrence: president biden chose to keep 15,000 person cap on refugees entering the u.s. but that wasn't a good enough for aoc who tweeted, quote. utterly unacceptable holding the xenophobic and racist policies of the trump administration.

with you after that the administration changed course releasing a statement tonight reading: we expect the president to set a final increase refugee camp for the remarpd of the fiscal year by may 5th. here now kayleigh mcenany former white house press secretary and a fox news analyst. kayleigh. is this how we are going to run the country now every time aoc decides to throw a temper tantrum and go on twitter then we are going to cave our foreign policy to that, right? >> lawrence, that's exactly what we're seeing here with this. this is a government run by progressives. i said in the campaign look, if biden prevails he is an empty vessel who will be totally driven by the radical left progressive whipping of the party. and that's exactly what we are seeing. and also worth mentioning here is just the totally muddled message from the white house. literally last week. jen psaki tells us that he is going to raise the cap. then this week today he comes out and says the low cap remains

justified by humanitarian concerns then we get an aoc tweet and voila raising the cap. very poor messaging. >> lawrence: so we have the aoc and radical progressives. but i think it goes to the root cause of this that they keep changing the policy when it comes to refugees and they want to have legal immigration reform done but they don't to get control of the border first. aren't they making the same mistake over and over again? >> yes. i think it's a great point. you know, of course we remember from the white house podium when we were told all children are going to be accepted into the interior of the country and there we go. all of a sudden you have influx of unaccompanied minors to the border. now what message does this send all children are welcome, we will raise our asylum, our refugee cap and we will welcome that as well. it's sending a message, setting a magnet, they call it a pull factor to bring these illegal

immigrants in, in this case they would be legal immigrants but just raising this number is another way that they're putting fuel on the fire and one more point, just in the two question press conference what a joke his second press conference the two question press conference not a single reporter has thought to ask about this refugee cap situation. >> lawrence: i have got to get your comment on this. there was a lot of talk about bounties put on u.s. soldiers. you addressed this back in the day at the white house. i want to play this and then get your reaction on it. >> the front page of the "new york times" is not the venue for discussing classified information. this is a piece of intelligence information that had no consensus, had not been verified still to this day has not been verified. >> lawrence: now they changed course today they said some of the intelligence was wrong. i'm just going to call it a flat out lie. >> it was a flat out lie by the "new york times." by cnn, by msnbc, by "the washington post" who had the

audacity to call trump a liar over it when, in fact, they were the ones corroborating a report and lying and for a month more than that even i fielded questions about this from the podium having to talk about raw intelligence from the white house podium, see it on the cover of the "new york times" it's an absolute travis industry and still not coming out and apologizing, they owe president trump and the entire administration at least that. >> lawrence: i won't hold my breath. any never do. they continue to lie and we continue to allow them to get away with it it's sad. thank you, kayleigh. >> thanks, lawrence. >> lawrence: coming up, how the media suddenly cares about chicago and the death of a 13-year-old boy. where have they been? i have been covering this stuff for years. we will talk about it next. ♪ ♪ . but your first treatment could be a chemo-free combination of two immunotherapies that works differently. it could mean a chance to live longer. opdivo plus yervoy is for adults newly diagnosed

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it's a tragedy. any time a child's life is cut short. i have a question. why now? why outrage over this case when 10 other kid under the age of 13 were killed in the same city this year alone i think we know why. i understand that we need to hold the state accountable. always do when they take a life. but wouldn't it be nice if they cared this much literally every other day in chicago? joining me now to discuss judge paula patrick, she is a pennsylvania supreme court candidate. judge, thank you so much for joining me today. you know, i have a simple policy. when the state abuses its power, you hold them accountable. when citizens go out there and shoot other people, you hold them accountable. when the people decide to shoot cops, you hold them accountable. why doesn't the media have the same standards? >> well, that's the million dollars question. why would they not have the same standard you know, it's amazing that, you know, as we look at the things that are happening in our society, that, you know, the

media tends to report things salaciously and a lot of times one sided. but it's porpoise for us to know that, you know, these things happen every day, unfortunately with, you know, children being killed on our streets. and it's unfortunate that even this child was out like this and this child was actually killed by a police officer and i believe that's why the media has really jumped on this because this is yet another, you know, police-involved shooting. this time of a young child. >> lawrence: we are going to get into the fact of this case as more evidence comes out. of course, we have a video that was heart breaking. there are different angles. so we are going to litigate that in the courtroom. what i want to know is why doesn't the media have any interest improving the lives of the community every single day because i have been down there reporting on it and i have talked to those families. i have seen the blood of a 6-year-old child still on the ground shot in her grandmother's

front yard and no one ever -- the community cares and they beg the media for coverage but it's always crickets. >> that's right. right. once again, i think it's because the media -- the media is very concerned about creating a particular they'rive. you know, establishing a story that they want in the minds of viewers. and not so much reporting that which is true and accurate. i think that any time in any of these cities, i live in philadelphia, where we have children that are shot and killed in the street by anyone, you are right. it should be reported. there should be something done about it. but, once again, we have the voiceless, you know, our children are voiceless, and who is there to protect our children? who is there to speak up for our children in the media chooses to speak up for the children only when it's a police involved shooting. you know, either way it's still unfortunate and i think we need to do more as a society. and i think the media should be really adamant about making sure that they report the full truth.

not just a child that's shot by the police. but children that are shot and killed in our streets and our cities every day. >> lawrence: you are an officer of the court. you see different cases every single day. how do you think the community, what is the key to getting the community together? >> well, i think the key to getting the community together is really, you know, respecting one another. making it so that people in the community that they have adequate jobs, good education system. that they are able to really survive. i think that's important. so many of these other issues that play into why children may be in the streets without proper supervision, why parents are not really taking care of their children as they should. they may be off to work. and so many other factors that go into that. listen, i was a family court judge in philadelphia for a period of time and i know the impact of what a lot of the things in the cities that can happen to families and really

disseminate families and cause so many problems in the home. >> yeah. we're going to be watching your campaign. we want to see what your platform is going to be for the community. hopefully you will come back. thank you so much, judge. >> yes, i will. thank you so much. >> lawrence: now, we know there is a -- in the inner cities, lice of those who live there politicians like to you can that, make promises they never intend to keep. this is why it's kept some democrats in charge of these large cities. my next guest has been sounding the alarm about this problem for years. here's her in 2013. roll the tape. >> we are dying, we are killing ourselves. no one is doing this to us. we are cooking this to ourselves. if we do not stop it, no democrat is going to stop it. no republican. no liberal, no conservative. we must stop killing ourselves.

>> lawrence: joining me now is sonnie. i call you my big sister. we have been on the ground. the democrats never leave on the ground. there is an opening for a message for conservatives. what do they need to do? >> first and foremost, i would like to say thank you so much for having me on. and i want to start this by premising that you are putting a lot at risk by having these kind of conversations, by bringing people like my brother on and me on to actually have these conversations because we are not going to stick to the normal paradigm that is set. and that is to have one side that says there is no racism, it doesn't exist. you are playing victim. and then to have the other side that is completely in pure identity politics based on no substance or no policy. so, the thing with democrats is,

they are never going to talk about this issue. they are never going to talk about this issue. because if they do, they will have to be held accountable for what they have done to our communities 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 years in some areas. they will have to be held accountable. so, they are not going to put themselves in a position where they have to be held accountable. so i brought this message seven years ago to republicans, to conservatives, we can talk about this. we can go out there, we can win people. we can win hearts and minds. i was told to sit down, to shut up. i was told that calling black people slaves on a plantation was more beneficial than actually offering them policy that fixes the issues that plague them under these democratic controlled cities. i was told it was not an important conversation. i was told that our voice had no

weight and constantly over and over again these messengers who choose to berate and belittle black americans were constantly put to the forefront. so i am very sick of hearing where are the people that want to have these conversations about black on black crime? where are the people that want to talk about the things that are going? we are right here. and we have been bringing these conversations to the right for years. you never want to have these conversations with us until this moment arises. so, please, they can save the sanctimonious stuff and let's actually get the policy that can fix the issues in these areas. >> lawrence: and what is that policy? >> for one thing, while we are talking about the situation with the kids and guns and understanding why we are in that situation, where it is no longer acceptable for us to teach that the second amendment is your

right. it is your right as an american citizen to be armed. but it is also a responsibility. with that responsibility comes certain knowledge and certain training. and instead of approaching it from that situation, where we are giving these boys young and teaching them not only is it your right but it is also your responsibility and the weight that comes with that responsibility, that subject is never broached and they are approached by their 16-year-old cousin saying here, point and shoot. so we can be the responsible voices in these areas and for some people who don't even note access to their second amendment right is available to them. so that's why it's so great when you bring people like maj for black guns matter. so when he goes in and he teaches gun safety. he goes in and he teaches the laws the regulations at the local area, he also teaches deescalations and ways to solve

problems without it resorting in violence. so the work is being done. and it would be really, really nice if people on the right recognized that instead of continuously talking down to black america. >> lawrence: sonie johnson can you catch her on sirius xm patriot tomorrow. i appreciate it coming up, nascar country music in the deadliest catch. why the biden administration is trying to pander to conservatives so they will all get vaccinated carley and will cain are next. ♪ ♪ the fast way to bring it up to speed... is scotts turf builder rapid grass. it grows two times faster than seed alone for full, green grass. everything else just seems... slow. it's lawn season. let's get to the yard.

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>> lawrence: welcome back. the white house want all americans to get vaccinated they seem to have trouble convincing the population to get the shot white conservatives. deadliest catch and nascar and star studded appeal during this sunday's country music awards. like someone at the white house googled what do conservatives like before coming up with this plan. here now to discuss it all is carley shimkus fox news

headlines 24/7 and will cain co-host of "fox & friends weekend" will cain podcast carley what do you think. >> googled conservatives. respecting your country on the international stage three out of four ain't bad. i don't have a problem with the biden administration doing this but just two things of note, if they want to try and sneakily convince hesitant conservatives to get vaccinated, the one thing that they shouldn't do is tell everybody that they're the ones that are behind this effort. just a tip there. >> lawrence: that's good. >> carley: other thing is if they are going to rub psas during nascar and on the country music awards, pick literally anybody but dr. anthony fauci you could go aoc, hillary clinton, nancy pelosi, all three of them but conservatives are feeling a bit of fauci fatigue at the moment. but pick anybody else.

>> lawrence: i think the whole world is. will? >> will: let's give credit nascar, country music and deadliest catch not bad at all. >> lawrence: because you watch them all don't you. >> will: some of us live up to stereotypes. >> carley: nothing wrong with that. >> will: totally agree with carley worse thing you can do family and medical leave act interest fauci wears a mask despite being vaccinated children wear a mask eating outdoors. despite our vaccine cannot go indoors and eat. i would suggest fauci might not be the best messenger. country music stars like willie nelson. >> lawrence: i agree with you. kristin taking began quits twitter saying the app. no longer served her positively. she is back. she announced her return turns out it feels terrible to silence herself. she chooses to take the bad with the good. carley? >> carley: chrissy t.teigen.

posted a lot of nsa think things on twitter as well. one of the reasons she is so popular with hollywood and the pop culture media is because she attacks every single member of the trump family when went after the trump administration. hopefully this is a learning lesson for her to keep her twitter feed positive as well. can you disagree with people politically but try to keep it as positive as possible. lawrence lawrence will everybody but republicans. >> look, shallow celebrity culture produces shallow celebrity who misses shallow engagement on social media. there is a shocking equation there that adds up to the obvious outcome. it's a little sad that chrissy takingen missed twitter. original diagnosis a month ago was correct. sad in the end that she missed that teenager negative place lawrence lawrence sucked her back in. husband in hot water for selling his wife homemade sandwiches. his wife wanted him to eat

healthier. she started packing his lunch for work. what did he do? he turned around and sold the meals to co-workers and used the money to buy some fast food and then he got busted carley? >> carley: okay. well, first of all, i question this husband's judgment because i have long said that the sandwich is the most under rated food. two pieces of bread and you could put anything you want in the middle of it. there are few things in this world that are that verse tile. so while he had his chicken nugget side hustle the friends who got the sandwich got the better end of the deal. >> will: have you made a grave error you should not question this man's judgment. this man is a national hero and genius. he clearly learned a lesson probably in about 5th grade i can turn this for a profit. can i sell the lunch that mom made which he transferred over to his wife and obviously later age and spin it to my favor. i can get what i wanted. the deal they made, lawrence was that he wasn't supposed to be

spending the family budget on fast food. they were saving for a house. it wasn't just about health. >> lawrence: that's smart. >> will: i'm not spending our budget. i'm flipping this homemade meal for money and spending it on the food that i really want, carley. this man is a problem-solver. >> lawrence: is he a genius and capitalist. >> carley: will, do you bring up a good point because i stand by my love of sandwiches i do remember when i was little getting those lunches although my mom and dad did a good job of giving me a variety of options always wanting the hot little circle pizzas, remember how great those things were. >> will: did you never participate in the lunch table. black market of lunch foods being swapped among lunch boxes at the table this. guy never grew out of it. we need a guy like this in d.c. >> lawrence: i got in trouble in the middle school candy store. my mom would take me to sam's political it up with candy

chocolate to stay cool so it wouldn't melt in the backpack then the principal shut me down. i was making good money. >> will: you were selling it. >> lawrence: i have always been a capitalist. don't let them tell you anything different. >> will: young entrepreneur. >> carley: that is the most innocent drug deal of all time having to do with sugar. i love it honors la lawrence hey, people were addicted. that's what i did. all right, thank you, carley and i will see will early tomorrow as we co-host "fox & friends weekend" together. look, i will sleep when i'm dead, guys. thank you all. up next forget a few bad am p aapples daily show host calls it designed to poor people. ben domenech joins me next. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> another day, and other of touch liberty and trevor millie from the daily show. >> this system and policing is doing what is exactly meant to do in america. and that is to keep poor people in their place. who happens to be the most poor in america? black people. we are not leaving with bad apples. >> but not every famous person is like noah, back to blue after

twitter made a call to defund the police. this is what she knows, we need cops and that is a fact. we just need strict laws for cops. and now here, fox news contributor ben domenech. ben him i didn't expect that from harley. she's got a lot of jury and stuff, a lot to protect. and i think she's trying to protect possession. >> look, am a big fan of cardi b and i love her music. but the fact is, i lived above the amish market that she used to work at back in the day. this is someone who actually came through the experience and i think is speaking with experience when she says you need to cops, you need the protection of cops in order to be able to have law and order in society. i think what you hear from trevor noah in this instance is someone completely insulated from that. someone out of touch with the

americans who actually run into the challenged of criminal activity in their lives. the idea that you would condemn the integrity of the police force of police across the country as being rotten and racist is absolutely abhorrent. and it is the sort of thing that can only come from somebody completely out of touch with reality, which i think unfortunately trevor know what is. >> lawrence: i think there is something to cardi b's statement though. i think we need to look at the rules, look at the practices and so it is worthwhile. why is that so hard to do? >> lawrence: well my think one of the things that you are acknowledging there, just becaud just because we want to be able to back them within our community doesn't mean that there aren't changes that ought to be made to. one of my big complaints over the years has been that cops don't do enough when it comes to practicing and using their weapons.

that they basically don't go through the kind of test we would like to see them pass on a normal basis in order to be able to avoid the kind of unfortunate incidents that we had in the franklin most when it comes like in minnesota. you shouldn't have to be in a situation where you stake a mistake your taser for a gun, and this is a situation that is a problem across the country and we ought to address. but the answer to that is not to say cops are all bad, all racist and all fruit of a rotten tree. that is unfortunate what trevor know we did and we should object it. it is important. >> lawrence: they write it and you have got to read it. that is all you got. you think you will be writing this show but that is not going to happen. i lied. one of the best teams. look, brother, one of the best teams. i joke, they are one of the best in the business.

you will do great. i can't wait to see what you've got cook and because i know it will be great. thank you for joining us and i will see you every week. thank you for watching "fox news primetime." you can catch me tomorrow on fox & friends, cohosting. i will see you all then. tucker is next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." for five full years, the campaign for president into his term in the white house, donald trump said often that he wanted american troops to leave afghanistan. finally coming in his last months in office, trump seemed to act on this purity told aides he would pull the troops out. then on june 26th of last year "the new york times" stopped him from doing that. the times wrote a story saying the