>> in the meantime we need them to do their jobs. we can't do without him. jason rantz, good to see you. thank you for watching "outnumbered." "america report" starts right now. the nation is bracing for a verdict in the derek chauvin trial as the jury is deliberating right now. while the trial judge warms that controversial remarks from congresswoman maxine waters could get the case overturned on appeal, you are watching "america report." i'm harris faulkner. here today, i cohostsible, lawrs a big of a tease. we can't wait to get back. kevin mccarthy says he will

push to censure the democrats as some rank-and-file democrats are going over this. here's what they said to protesters outside minneapolis. >> we have to get more access. we have to make sure that they know we are here. >> the judge says those comments could have serious consequences. >> we can't avoid at at its so pervasive that it's -- i just don't know how this jury can really be set that they are free from the spirit now that we have u.s. representatives threatening access and violence to the specific case, it's

mind-boggling to me. >> i will give you that congresswoman waters may have given you some appeal that may result in this trial would be overturned. i wish elected officials would stop talking about this case especially in a manner of the rule of law and the branch of our function. i think if they want to give their opinion they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that's consistent with our constitution to respect the branch of government. >> harris: lawrence jones? >> the court is frustrated, the judge is frustrated. he is one that is strive to take control of this trial early on in the process. he issued a gag order telling not only the defense, but elected leaders to not comment on this case at all. because of pushback from the media saying, the court was

being prejudiced towards them, that he needed to protect that. they ended up taking that away and he said the gag order did not work because people started to leak information to the public and the case was almost being litigated before the public eye. he did not want that. he took that gag order back and now you have an elected democrat from california getting involved in something that she doesn't have to deal with in the sense of, if minnesota is on fire she gets to go head back to her home. they're putting the pieces back together. all the people and activists that you see online saying, why aren't the local officials saying anything, the reason they're not saying anything is because the judge has instructed them not to! it can tamper with the jury.

although he got rid of that gag order, that is contingent on elected officials, don't say anything because you're going to tamper with my jury! >> harris: you make such an excellent point. i want to come to you on this. i've been saying it often. she didn't say this outside of her office. she went to the scene, needed a police export to get in there. the people that are at the center of this that she would want to defund and her political ideas, a politician goes to the scene but to tell people to get more confrontational while on the ground, the escort says, she gets to go home and not deal with any of this. >> it's unsurprisingly hypocritical from maxine waters. you see that with the squad as well who hired security while calling for them to be defunded.

that hypocrisy is notable. also notable is her history of justifying violence with the l.a. riots where 53 people died. excusing that as a spontaneous uprising. she has a history of doing that, anti-semites who perpetrated that horrible attack that resulted in the death of billy evans. she is a history of controversy, it's not just isolation, you have to step back and ask him a when do they hold their members accountable? we saw kevin mccarthy strip him of his committee assignments, calling out someone and his party. when do democrats start not engaging in hypocrisy and going after their own when they make mistakes? you have nancy pelosi saying, no apology necessary! i think voters see the difference. >> i'm guessing it's because the

woke crowd like that sort of thing. there capitulating. a lot to ask. maybe some of them will have nuanced answers. congresswoman maxine waters ripped republican lawmakers and an interview saying "they will jump on any word, any lien and try to make it to their message in their cause for denouncing us and denying us, calling us violence. anytime they see an opportunity. they do it and they send a message to all the white supremacists, the proud boys and all of that. this is a time for republicans to raise money. she has a lot to say these days. >> emily: she does indeed. jonathan turley argued she would be the best defense witness against former president trump's lawsuit where she's a plaintiff for his "incitement." she is arguing her words are being overblown, it hasn't

resulted in something. it's merely a reflection about how others feel about her. shouldn't she be the first person to see how that does as well apply to the insurrection on january 6 and president trump's alleged participation. i want to point out that to support to support xs and os, a quick comment on the trial. we've talked about the possibility for appeal. we know there is a concurrent federal investigation and i have to point out that impasse trials depending on if there is a conviction, perhaps that federal trial will never -- the investigation will never result in charges. take south carolina, he was acquitted, a hung jury for his trial. the killing of walter scott. and the federal government did bring charges for deprivation and he pled guilty. i have to point out that this

verdict, the upcoming verdict, it's not necessarily the last word for other avenues for derek chauvin. >> lawrence: really quick, there's been a a lot of conversation about why you have seen a race being injected into that. the prosecution made a call early on to lead that to the civil rights division, to use that claim. that is why it hasn't been injected into this case. >> harris: maybe it wasn't injected because the evidence didn't show it necessarily. the evidence they were pointed to, the death of george floyd and all of that. if you bring in a race that put something else into it and it doesn't exactly -- and i'm not kayleigh mcenany. she's the harvard attorney, but if you bring in too much to this, and makes it hard for the jury to say, that sits in this

box. you are trying to get manslaughter and attempted murder! i think that takes it someplace else. i do want to get to your thoughts on this. it has to do with maxine waters. was it free speech or something else? >> if you look up the definition of gaslighting you will seen maxine waters. what she said about republicans, in plain english telling writers and protesters to "get more confrontational." it's outrageous that she can turn this on republicans or conservatives. maxine waters represents everything that is wrong with the party and the left that has been wrong for several months. they been essentially saying if we don't get the verdict that we want then we are going to have to loot and burn the city to the ground and we are going to have

people like kamala harris supporting bail. the democrats have a lot on their hands. the people in minnesota don't want people coming in from outside and inciting violence. they don't want their city to be destroyed. the police officers are being defunded and having crimes spiking. and then you have a representative of the people and california no less coming and saying, let's wreak more havoc, let's have more fun. this is absolutely tampering with the jury. they know, regardless of all the measures to make sure they are impartial, they know that if they don't get the verdict, that city is going to burn. that's a whole lot on their shoulder and there's a whole lot that's going to happen in the next few days. let's hope we can maintain peace. >> harris: the governor has said they can't take much more. they are that point now, really

quickly, i want to give kayleigh a chance to weigh in on why they didn't bring in a race for the reason i mentioned and the reason lawrence mentioned. >> kayleigh: i think they wanted a clean case without any controversial. that's why they separate police as a profession of the action from derek chauvin. very smart to do. too queenly look at that, decide based in the debate about defunding the police end. >> harris: we will move. dozens of other states are weighing antiriot measures now, like the one florida just signed into law. what that kind of legislation, or why it may never see the light of day anywhere outside of florida. >> you look at the breath of this piece of legislation, it's the strongest anti-rioting, pro-law enforcement piece of legislation. there is nothing even close.

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>> harris: let's take a look, we are in long island, new york. 25, 30 minute drive. you are watching as police force has shown up at the grocery store in the last 45 minutes or so. shots fired was the called they were responding to. laura ingle with our new york bureau is all over the story and she said teachers are telling her that nearby franklin square, they are in lockdown. other school staffers are working shifts, there being locked out and told by security to vacate the area as police work the scene out in

long island new york. we will follow this for you with a report of possible shots fired and bring you updates as we get them. >> you look at the breath of this particular piece of legislation, it's the strongest anti-rioting piece of legislation in the country. there is nothing even close. if you harm others, if you harm a law enforcement officer during one of these assemblies, you are going to jail. >> that is governor ron desantis, a new anti-rioting law as other states apply similar legislation and response to the violent protests after george floyd staff. it would ban taunting police and camping on state property, expand activities, and impose tougher penalties for blocking traffic. civil rights groups slamming this proposal saying they violate the constitutional right

to free speech. i would like to start with you on this. as we outlined there, there are some mandatory jail time. there is no automatic relief. it begs that larger question, here on the west coast there is a a lot of freeway blocking that happens, but that's never a legal and never protected by constitutional rights. it puts the onus on law enforcement to protect protesters from traffic and everything else that happens and opens them up to causes of action when the protesters sue. your thoughts? >> lawrence: there some nuance there. the only saving grace. they will have to get the legislation right. the way that they actually worded it, they are going to be under scrutiny. the saving grace of this legislation was he was standing

right behind him and he picks up this photo of a protests, a peaceful protest and a violent one and he says, we understand the difference. i think it's important when we are talking about this george floyd case that is because the country to come together on this, many police unions came together and they condemned officer chauvin's actions, this is why the defense has made it clear that this is not a case against all cops, this is against derek chauvin. they made a quote saying "the profession is honorable itself come up with this cop dishonored the profession." this is what the governor is trying to do to make, a clear distinction. peaceful versus nonpeaceful and when you're not peaceful we will

lock you up. >> your thoughts on this? >> this is not okay and i think ron desantis is taking a page out of his book. there are people in this country that watched the entire riot season in towns across this country, wisconsin, people are looking around and thinking it would never happen there. they've never seen protest to the magnitude where it's turned violence. they've never seen vandalism and americans are saying, what do we do? our police force is being told to stand down. they're afraid to do anything. the message he is sending, law enforcement, we stand besides you. we stand besides you and we are not going to give this a pasts, were not going to let blm take over cities or appease them anymore and there's going to be consequences. that is part of this. when it comes to every issue in

this country, law and order matters! they need to be loud and that's exactly what he is doing here and good on him for doing it. i see 2024 written all over him. >> emily: some arguing come up protesters there that were charged with attacking police officers during a riot. they were let go and prosecutors have cut a deal, if they stand up trouble they get clean records, and contrast that with those who have been charged in the federal insurrection in january who are sitting in solitary confinement, charges up to 30 years and the same thing they are where they were charged with attacking law enforcement. the argument here is that some parts of the country, the citizens are being heard and listen to and others there is a discretion that's playing out. this larger vision, the governor

has in florida, putting his citizens first. >> that's right. all violence should be condemned, bottom line. good on senator warren, i will give credit where credit is due for saying solitary confinement for the january 6th writers is unnecessary. good for them for saying that. he said, i'm looking around the country, when kamala harris wants to bailout rioters that she points her twitter followers too, when joe biden staffers donate, i will put my stake in the ground and say this is unacceptable and he won't be out on bail. notably, his comments come after the white house press secretary was asked, how are you preparing for the violence? he had not acceptable answer. he said you're talking to mayors and governors, but are you talking the national guard?

you have to prepare these things. president trump did when violence broke out. it's unacceptable. we have to stand against violence in all forms. >> harris? >> harris: i don't know if there is enough transparency for us to know what is going on. we really don't know. that's also not helpful coming from the lectern inside the white house. you know who's embracing this? maybe they would want to rewrite, i don't know, but you have to be paying attention to what is happening. if you are in an area where you've lost your livelihood, oregon, seattle, washington, portland, oregon, downtown minneapolis. areas that feather out from there. if you are in a place, kansas city, that you've lost, lost what you had throughout this entire program and process,

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god knows they need some type of fight. the facts don't matter and that's sad. we know this is a live. "the washington post" did an extensive analysis on it and god knows they are not republicans, they are leftist. it doesn't matter in this case. i'm reminded of hillary clinton where she is clearly pandering to the audience. they look at her and say, most people would say your pandering. she looks back at her and says, is it working? they're getting away because there pandering. what can republicans do? the only way you beat them is if you win them over. right now the only thing that is working is coming out of the mouths of the people they voted for in the past. if you can't sell liberty, i don't understand why you have it. my advice to republicans, leave

the hearing rooms and stop fighting with politicians and when this immunity which they say, you are racist four. >> congresswoman lisa mclean told me last hour, it's about de-escalation. republicans could get right in there. they wouldn't have to try hard to be more positive, would they? it shouldn't be too hard. >> president trump's credit, he did make a lot of that outrage and increased numbers among black americans and hispanic-americans. it just takes outreach. sharing the good news of the republican party, a number of other accomplishments. if i could quickly get back to the notion that this is jim crow. i want to bring another leader into this conversation. she wrote an incredible piece today.

the head of the heritage foundation. she said, "as a black woman who grew up in the south, i'm shocked and appalled with the race baiting for left-wing politicians who are throwing around the term "jim crow" to score political points in the debate of strengthening voting laws. she says this in one thing. federalizing election and taking power." that is what this hearing is about and they're throwing around highly charged rhetoric to achieve that. >> harris: how do you have more power than the majority and a democrat in the white house. what is the end game here? i'm coming before here is achieving our in a new way. controlling the legislator, absolutely, but you have filibusters.

you have an election to win to maintain power in a year and a half. you have to change elections and you have to get rid of the electoral college. you ensure you achieve power and perpetuity not just in the momentary time of this moment in history. your thoughts mr. markey >> exactly. what they want is no opposition. they're gunning for no opposition and the only way they can win to change the rules. the other way they went as their messaging, they have to make cap this country feel like victims and the other half feel like racists. that's how they win. beyond just going in these communities and saying, we think people of color are smart and intelligent, capable of getting an i.d., that goes a long way. it explains these communities. it's not that we don't want people of color to vote, we want every american to vote, but what we don't want his noncitizens and illegal immigrants to vote.

they're doing a great job to make sure they want to suppress the black vote. we want to suppress the illegal immigrant vote, but that is what the democrats want! why do you think they're bringing people into this country. why do they have the open borders message? they are using black americans and praying on their emotions to win it in that way and it's absolutely disgusting. >> harris: emily? >> emily: is not enough to say we disagree and here is why. it wasn't enough to say they disagree with president trump's policy. they had to compare him to hitler. saying, here's why we disagree, it's not enough. i thought he did a fantastic job of illustrating the hypocrisy. there is one party that is inciting violence, that's claiming, claiming divisiveness, stoking the fire and not putting it out.

11 years ago president biden eulogized the deceased senator robert byrd with an existing democratic governor that was in blackface and his yearbook. every democrat voted for him, a bill that for gave specific farmers of one race. the hypocrisy here is clear in the list is long, but i think it goes back to that rhetoric where it has to be inflamed because that's the only way that democrats feel there message will succeed is by vilifying that. >> harris: i think you're talking about north? >> emily: correct. >> harris: he said he wasn't in blackface. moving on. he meant what he said. cnn's chris cuomo not backing down on what he says is needed for real police reform. >> i know when they will change. your kids targeting hills, white people's kids are getting

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>> i know when they will change. your kids start getting killed. white people's kids are getting killed. smoking that doobie that's legal in your state, but they don't know what it is and then they start running. >> harris: he meant when he said. chris cuomo doubling down on remarks doubling down, police reform will only happen if, "white people's children get killed." here he is last night. >> i don't know if you are watching friday night, when i said that something every one of you knows to be true. if what we are seeing in these communities was happening to kids in suburbs, adults, if they

suffered the same fate as we see too often with these black kids, if they died in these situations, things would change. >> harris: oh, my gosh, and no one uses the r word for him, i will use the i word, ignorant! there are no black people in the suburbs? >> lawrence: i'm a very transparent, of the bad experience that i've had. i've had mostly good experiences. i'm talking about being stopped nine times in the capital. i'm not saying folks have that right, but folks who were killed, people don't see anything.

danny schaefer was shot in the back! timothy caughman died with a needle in his neck and there was no outrage. this is not speaking for all cops. when there's bad apples that kill white folks as well, people don't speak out. maybe this is just a conversation of how we view authorities. most of us respect cops and we believe that they will do the right thing. 90% of the time. when those bad apples get it wrong, sometimes we don't hold them accountable. the reason why they galvanize so many people, i believe is because we were in the middle of a pandemic and people saw it very different! when he saw mothers being on playgrounds, put in wagons, people didn't like that! look at the state differently. we came together.

that's just my thoughts. >> again, i wonder when cnn and chris cuomo are going to be outraged about the violence that's happening in inner-city communities across the country. it seems to be only when they can push the agenda and narrative they want to push and advance. furthermore, back to lawrence's point, that's an incredibly valid point to make. race has been used over and over again, they have to make half the country feel like victims and half the country feel like racist and we have to answer for our white privilege and victimhood and it's utterly ridiculous. they say things like this because they're sending a message like, you have victims, the white liberals will take care of you, the bad conservatives. it's not helping anybody. going back to these cases at hand, if people like chris

cuomo, others including maxine waters, if they want to protect people of color and black lives, the message they would send is one of compliance. you might have a bad interaction with an officer, but if you comply you will go home safely to your family. that needs to be a part of the discussion. every single one of these incidences, race, race, race. let's focus on the actions of the suspect and victim and say there are bad apples. if you comply you will go home safety. that needs to be the message! it's deadly, reckless, dangerous and stupid. >> harris: what lawrence is talking about is a different way to use the word race. our skin may be a different color, but that is the race we belong in and belong to and it's through that that we have togetherness that will take to get through all of this. your thoughts? >> kayleigh: you are exactly

right and that's a beautiful message to teach your daughters. this is amazing. chris cuomo needs to take a hard look in the mirror because he also said, double down. he said, this is brought out the worst out of us. he has one of the chief perpetrators of that. he said, who said protest have to be evil before making further incendiary remarks. we need to step back and say, how is by rhetoric contributing? the lessons you are teaching your daughter or a far cry we see from others on television. >> harris: we have to get back to the breaking news. law enforcement presence outside of a stop and shop in long island, a 30 minute drive from manhattan. story has progressed now and here's what we can tell you. police updated moments ago that shooting that happened that they

were responding to possible shots fired, one person has died, two are wounded and have been taken to the hospital. they're looking for a suspect and if you look right now, they seem to be at a residence -- we have been following this. they have left the presence of the stop & shop and through witnesses or investigative work they've made their way to this residential area. if you watch this, police say they are looking the suspect who opened fire at the stop & shop out on long island, not far from the residence that you see here. a news conference moment ago, we have the confirmation of what we knew, but now we know for sure that one person has been killed. multiple people shot, two injured, one dead.

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about the covid vaccine and what dr. fauci was telling us. brett giroir is here to react. rushing to judgment, the examiner ruling capitol police officer brian suffered from a stroke and died of natural causes. charlie hurt is here to react. big story coming up at the top of the hour with "america's newsroom." >> i'm praying the verdict is the right verdict. i wouldn't say that unless the jury was sequestered. >> emily: that was president joe biden weighing in with former minneapolis police officer, saying he was only speaking out because the jury was sequestered, but what about the rest of the country? what does he mean by the right verdict? i would like to come to you on this and just a reminder, we heard this week eric nelson

moving the judge for a mistrial because maxine waters comments saying a reasonable person could expect it was threatening the sanctity of the process. it could be witness intimidation to which they replied call for "i will give you that, you just provided a reason for appeal for this trial to be overturned." what is the difference now when we have the president weighing in? >> you are exactly right and we heard him go want to caution officials and say, i urge you not to weigh in just hours before the president himself weighs in. i'm glad he waited until the jury was sequestered, but the country is such a tinderbox, so much hurt, so much pain, and it's the role of the president of united states. i like he called the family of george floyd. president trump did too. but i think he should have reserved comments and said he is

praying for the family as we all are. >> emily: your thoughts? >> again, what he is saying and the messages he is sending to not only those in minneapolis is, if this verdict doesn't go the way it should come of the right way because he sees the evidence being overwhelming. you have rioting, looting, social justice. this is not different from the message that the democrats sat all summer long. they're simply doubling down! he might say, the jury is sequestered. it's about the way the nation looks at our president and the way they might do something destructive, as a path from the president, vice president, congressional leaders that have the majority in congress! that is the message they are sending. it's going to be destructive and we know regardless of which way the verdict comes out, someone

is going to be upset, cities will be in turmoil, and the president who has that on his back and shoulders, it's beneath the office of the president and he should have never said a word. >> emily: lawrence, this jury may be sequestered, but if there is a hung jury, that's a different pool and furthermore, why does the message have to be so simple? so you can construe everything my colleagues are saying. why couldn't he have said, i have the utmost faith in this jury and i wish them the best? to pray for all of those families. there is a way to be a leader while not alienating or setting the tone for a violent reaction. >> lawrence: or say nothing at all like the judge requested. that is what he asked. i'm taking it from a different perspective. as an analyst, lawrence jones

feels a lot about this case, but my job is to provide analysis on what is happening, how the system works, take it to the private investigator and do my job every single day with my personal experiences. if i can do it than the president of the united states should be able to do it. he doesn't live the life i live. >> emily: harris? >> harris: i just got hit by the microphone you dropped on the floor. when i hear the judge calling politicians not to speak and then you see them speak, but doesn't think the judge is that important, cautioning he's trying to help you. i guess the president of the united states doesn't care about that. >> emily: what a shame. it would do us all better to listen more. at least we listen to each

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