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of the golden -- governor of the golden state. >> but first, "the washington post" accused of running a hit piece on republican senator tim scott hours after it was announced he would be giving the gop response to president biden's address to a joint session of congress on wednesday. the article titled tim scott often talks about his grandfather and cotton, there's more to that tale, seeks the raise questions over comments the senator has made about being an ancestor of slaves. ultimately, the piece did not debunk scott's past claims about his ancestry, and people are quick to note the suspicious timing of the report which was published roughly 12 hours after scott was tapped to make the republican rebuttal against the democratic president. congressman steve scalise defending the senator. watch. >> tim scott's e a wonderful person, a dear friend, but he's also a rising star. and there is nothing that scares the left more than a conservative african-american leader who's gaining respect

martially on his own -- nationally, on his own not pushing the false narrative of the left, but talking about individual opportunity. >> and here's "the washington post" response to the backlash. quoting here, the fact-checker piece acknowledges that senator tim scott may not have known his full family history and that historical records regarding the lives of black marijuanas are often -- black americans are often scanned. nonetheless, our reporting found official records to cost's public remarks and writings about his grandfather. the fact-checker to occasionally delves into the origin stories of politicians, often without reaching a conclusion about a their completeness or revasty. and here's -- veracity. senator scott: no amount of fact checking will ever take away from the struggles my family overcame. we have to call out this casual racism against black republicans when we see it. it's shameful, and we cannot allow it to go unnoticed.

we talked a lot about the timing of this story, 12 hours after the fact that tim scott was picked to be the rebuttal person on this thing. i'm not as concerned about timing as i am about the framing of the story in "the washington post." i'll talk more about that later, but first, let's get your with take on this, lisa. what do you think? >> i mean, this is the worst hit job in political history because they didn't actually debunk anything that senator tim scott has said. senator scott seems like a really nice guy, but he's not enough of a fighter for me at a time when the left is trying to establish one-party rule in america through things like statehood and packing the supreme court. i also don't support the fact that he's adopted the left's false narrative that police are the problem in america when you look at the numbers from 2020 and that doesn't bear out in the facts. you look at the fact that there was 1,021 police shootings in 2020, almost 45% of those were

white individuals, 24% of the people killed were black. you look at the vast majority of the individuals who were shot and killed had guns, only 5% were actually unarmed. yet we've seen this false narrative being driven to try and exploit and drive racial tensions in america by the left in the media since they lied about michael brown's killing in 2014 and have continued to lie since. >> it's interesting, tyrus, because, you know, lisa says tim scott is saying police are the problem, is he saying that, or is he saying the police have problems that need to be addressed, and he thinks he's got the way to address that? your thoughts on this controversy. >> well, i think brother tim, he had a good plan but, of course, it was shot down. i think we need to have some reform across the board and look at some things individually, but more importantly to, to go back to the hit piece about him, i found italy lair yous that they were saying -- it hilarious that they were saying his history was

scanned. news flash, he was a slave. my ancestors were slaves. there's not a whole lot of maps and signatures and stories of where everybody went. 9 so the fact that he even is connected to his grandfather is amazing. it's sad they tried to take that apart. all they had on the brother was they were trying to say he didn't know all of his ancestry? welcome, none of us do. and i couldn't say it any better if i tried, casual racism. we see it all the time and, of course, they're afraid of a conservative african-american who's smart, who's being respected by the country. i could identify with that a little bit. so keep doing what you're doing, tim, and shame on them. >> and i think tyrus makes a very fair point, kristin. steve scalise echoed this and said, look, the left see he's a very successful businessman, he was a congressman, he was a senator -- is a senator -- and he's done really well, and poses a threat being a republican. kristin.

>> absolutely. he upends this narrative that the gop is a party of old why not guys. republicans, especially in this last election, really dramatically increased the diversity in their ranks that you see here representing conservative voices in washington. tim scott is viewed as a huge threat, and what was so astonishing about this piece in "the washington post" is there's an interesting article in there about the way that across generations hardship and perseverance can shape someone's future. there's a fascinating amount of detail in this piece about tim scott's family, one of which debunks anything that he's ever had to say. he consistently says my family went from cotton to congress in one lifetime. my grandfather developed out of elementary cool to pick cotton -- school to pick cotton. and so it's all of this headline with the snarky innuendo, ah, well, there's more to the story. when you actually read the article, nothing in there debunks anything tim scott has

ever said. >> and i would say it's about the framing of the article, because "the washington post" kind of goes in, they say, you know, they acknowledge that the census data they were using is, quoting, historically questionable at best and at times unreliable, and then they say we could not pull up the census data from 1890 or 1900. so there's a 30-year gap in their questionable information that's coming into the story, and yet they still go in and they say too try and fill the -- to try and fill the gap in senator tim scott's story. there is no gap in tim scott's story, that's just their way of saying, look, we found something without actually having found something. i think gowdy, you know, can be trey gowdy, i think on this network, had a response. look, this is a brilliant guy, he's done wonderful things, and nobody on the left would ever look at kamala harris and corey booker and call them token democrats, but yet joy reid on

msnbc calling tim scott a token republican. lisa, last word. >> yeah, i mean, they don't like the fact that he thinks for himself and he goes his own way. i think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn't like tim scott. and trace, remember, this is the same media who tried to tell us that elizabeth warren is native american despite the fact that her own dna tests that she released hoe e that she is not, and she lied about it and tried to use that for her own career advantage and to get ahead career wise. this is a media that still tries to tell us that she's native american when everyone knows she's not. so they're incredibly dishonest. >> yeah. tyrus? >> you know, when i hear that word token, i always get, i always get dumb founded and shocked by it because the liberals want everyone to have individual thought and do their own thing as long as it doesn't disagree with them. then of course, what do they do? they go after your race. it goes right back to that casual racism. it's pathetic, and he said it

best, man. they love you until you have your own program, and then all of a sudden you're a problem. >> yeah. and, kristin soltis anderson, tyrus makes a fair point again saying, hey, the left want to virtue signal and will tolerate almost anything except for a different political opinion. last word to you. >> right. and take a look at the effort that tim scott did put forward last summer around police reform. democrats wanted to paint republicans as being completely out to lunch. tim scott said, no, i've actually got some ideas here that i think can be the beginning of bipartisan discussions, and democrats completely dismissed it. they don't want to have a diverse set of voices at the table on this particularly if they're conservatives. >> yeah. lisa, tyrus, kristin, great conversation. we'll have more coming up. in the meantime, vice president kamala harris taking heat for not visiting the southern border, but her book is making an appearance.

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♪♪ >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." vice president kamala harris can't be bothered to visit the southern border right now even though biden put her in charge of the crisis. what is making an appearance, however, is her book. migrant kids in southern california are getting a copy of the vp's children's book, "superheros are everywhere," as they enter america at the mexican border. the surge of migrants shows no signs of slowing down with a state of emergency being declared in arizona. will cain went down there to talk with a group of sheriffs. take a listen. >> what can be done to solve this problem? >> it starts with the president of the united states. he needs to prioritize this border, all our borders, and there's consequences for breaking our laws. >> well, apparently i need coffee, because i was a little slow on the uptick there on the

intro. tyrus, you've got these unaccompanied minor kids, they're sleeping on the floor in, you know, foil blankets in unsanitary conditions separated from their parents, but, you know, now they get a copy of the very p's children's book. the vp's children's book. >> well, you know, the perfect example is why is she not making a trip to the border, because in her administration's idea, it's not a real crisis. they have no problem with them coming across the border. and not only are they giving them books and probably maps of places to visit and go, maybe a couple tickets to disneyland and pick which state you want your family to stay in. we're seeing just reckless endangerment of this nation. listen, i feel for children being on their own and not -- i'm a parent, i get it. but a lot of these situations you have coyotes sending them across with directives because they still have a connection to their families across the border. all the meanwhile, we're in the middle of a pandemic, and we

have thousands or unvaccinated, unmasked individuals coming over from another country, literally could be bringing a different variant that maybe our vaccines don't have any effect on and at the same time hurting our lower, middle class americans who now have to share services with, i'm going to say it, with illegal aliens as they're being placed all over the country. it's sad but, hey, hopefully it's got pop-ups, fun stuff like that. >> trace the, we now have 23,000 unaccompanied minors in u.s.ty. and now dhs is looking to release more migrants into the united states. what message does this all send northern triangle countries and people who are thinking about coming over here? >> to your point, lisa, when you talk about record encounters at the border, 172,000 encounters at the border in march, that's an a all-time record. it's going to be higher in

april, because april's one of the months where the migrants tend to come in bigger numbers, and may could be even bigger than that. 23,000 unaccompanied minors being held in the long beach and san diego convention centers and places all around, we don't have any place to put these children. that's sad. and what is with the book, the kamala harris book? is there some hidden message in the book, in the superhero book that might solve this whole thing? we know and critics have pointed out that kamala harris is not vastly in depth on her knowledge, even though she was a great attorney, is not -- and her legal knowledge about immigration law, about asylum law. she is in favor of sanctuary policies like california has. she's in favor of not securing the border. she's in favor of people coming across. so the person they have placed in charge of this is actually, is actually getting the results that she wanted when she was running for president saying exactly what she wanted, that's exactly what's happening now.

and that becomes a problem if she's not going to go to the border firsthand and take a look. she's not going to go to the northern triangle countries which she says she will and take a look, and yet the administration keeps saying, look, we're going to send billions of dollars down to central america where the root of the problem is. from 2013-2018, we sent $3.7 billion to central america, is and look where the problem is now. lisa. >> trace the, why don't you think she's going to go visit the southern border? why is this administration refusing to do that? >> i think she'll have to at some time, but i think they're going to delay this and hope the situation gets better. that's the only rational and reasonable explanation, is they're going to hope that by some means that this situation gets a little bit better in the days and weeks ahead. and the longer that she can delay going, the more she takes the focus off the border, and it goes on to other things. if she goes to the border,

everybody's focus is on the border. if she stays away long enough, the focus starts to shift off the border. it's, you know, it's the whole coronavirus wait in the basement strategy for kamala harris. she just kind of waits it out to see if she can get the media's focus off of the border altogether. and little by little, it's working. >> well, and, kristin, i know numbers are your friend, you love data, you love research. what impact or any impact do you think this immigration crisis will have in the midterm elections? >> so it depends on what things look like a year and a half from now, because we've got a long way to go til november 2022. at the moment immigration is one of the issues with where the biden administration gets the lowst marks. i think trace is right when he says they don't want to put the focus on the border. frankly, i would be stunned if any of her team had anything to do with her books popping up in

these bags. i'm glad kids are getting books, i'm excited for any child that is able to have a book in their hands that they can call their own, but it's sad the situation that is causing these children to be in these facilities in the first place, the incentives that have been set up for adults to feel like, yes, let's send all these children knot. they become a ticket -- north. they become a ticket into the country for folks in their 20s and 30s looking for a way into the u.s. it's a huge crisis, a huge problem. you can understand why the vice president -- despite being made the point person on this issue -- would want to stay as farah away from it as possible. >> we're doing everything we can possibly do to incentivize everybody to break the law. guys, appreciate it. straight ahead, it's the viral video every single parent will want to see, a mother slamming her school board for making kids wear face masks. stay with us. ♪♪ -- all right for fighting,

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♪ we don't take anymore, we don't talk anymore ♪♪ >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." a mother in georgia going viral this week after she took on members of her kids' school board for making young children wear masks and socially distance despite there being little evidence that kids are severely at risk of contracting covid-19. take a look at this. >> every month i come here and i hear the same thing, social-emotional health. if you truly mean that, you would end the mask requirement. we have three vaccines. every adult in the state of georgia that wants that vaccine is eligible to get it. take these masks off of my

child. >> so, lisa, i want to go to you first on this. i mean, obviously, there have been a lot of instances over the last year when public health officials, in trying to get things right and trying to keep people safe, may have gone a little overboard or not calculated the risks right. what's your reaction to this mother's claim? >> i think she is a hero. i honestly think she should run for political office. with we know that covid disproportionally impacts the eller i -- elderly, not children. there's no reason why children should be forced to wear masks as well as the point you made as well, we see a lot of misinformation over the past year that has ultimately been debunked. look at the fact that we were all, you know, crazy, you know, wiping down surfaces, trying to bleach everything, and then we find out that the spread on surfaces is not really an issue. mit just put out a study on social distancing when they

found that indoors no difference between 6 feet or 60 feet or you have to wear a mask until you sit down and then you take it off? what difference does that make? on an airplane you have to wear a mask, but if you're eating or drinking, you have to take it off? it doesn't make sense. ultimately, when you look at the virus and the global mortality rate, it's .15%. i think pretty much almost our entire strategy in our country each worse in places like new york and california have been wrong, and we've decimated businesses, we've forced people to be in their homes where that's the highest percentage. of the spread. none of this makes sense. god bless this woman. i think she is incredible. >> trace, across the country we're seeing school districts that have begun to open up and begun to try to get kids back in the classroom, but there are a couple of big city districts where you've got teachers unions who are saying, nope, we don't want to go back to school, not even in the fall. is something like requiring kids

to wear masks, do you think that's the sort of thing that might get these teachers to feel more comfortable opening the doors, or this really a secondary issue when it comes to why some of these school districts still remain closed? >> no, i think it's the teachers unions putting their foot down, look, we'll go back kicking and screaming, we'll go back, but we want this, this, this, this and this before they go back, and the schools to are so tired of fighting, they're saying, okay, they're gong to comply with all of this. it's just amazing when you're in the airport and you have to stay 6 feet apart, you're getting on the plane, you have to stay 6 feet apart, and once you get on the plane, you sit cheek to jowl against anybody, and nobody says a word because you can't do anything against the airlines. that's just the way society works. this mom is really making a point that a lot of moms are making, she went on to say, we didn't play it, that you're asking these kids to carry a burden that was never theirs to carry. i mean, these kids, not only do

they have to wear masks, they can't play together. they can't go outside at 5, 6, 7 years old and play together because you have to stay 6 feet apart from your classmate. these kids are not spreading it. we have seen the statistics. we have seen how wrong the cdc and the w.h.o. have been during this entire pandemic and yet we continue the make the same mistakes. we pushed everybody inside, and now we know outside was the best place to be. we shut down the beaches, the parks, the walking trails, pushed everybody inside when really we should have pushed everybody outside and had them exercise because that was the key to all this. 1 in 10,000 people who get vaccinated actually get coronavirus, none of them get sick. that's the thing that says, you know what? if you get vaccinated, if you are willing to get vaccinated, then the you are going to be very safe against this virus. and i'm saying right now this mom is just echoing what a lot of these school boards around

the country are seeing. >> amen. >> well, tyrus, let's take a quick listen at what the cdc director had to say about wearing masks outside. >> do you think that if you are outside and not close to people, you still need to wear a mask? >> you know, this is a question that we're looking at, and we will be looking at the outdoor masking question, but it's also in the context of the fact that we still have people who are dying of covid. >> tyrus, i went hiking with my dog this morning, and on the hiking trail here in the d.c. area 75% of the people i passed on the trail had masks on. what's your take on this debate about masks outside? >> well, you know, there's that old saying, hey, docker give it to me -- docker give it to me -- doc, give it to me straight. here's a perfect example, they pushed operation warp speed, we got the vaccines out there, go

on and get your vaccines. i was a moderna guy, i got both of them, what'd i win? nothing, there's no upside to getting the vaccine because the same rules apply. they know what the science says but they can't let go of control, it's become political. i mean, it's, the hypocrisy is saddening. and here's the deal, private schools their kids aren't wearing masks, their kids are playing, and they're getting advantage in the classroom. so i find it, like i said, it's just hypocritical. the cdc has gotten to the point where you just can't trust it anymore because they're just not giving us a fair shake. tell us what we immediate to know. we can take it. what we can't take is lies and propaganda. >> if i could just piggyback quickly, because i think this whole thing is, kristin, he's right. these schools that have been in-person learning have seen cases almost nonexistent. that is, that is what should be the model for the rest of the

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forgovernor of california. honestly, man, i give this one a 3 on a scale of 1-10. the biggest reason is there's a mass exodus in california. republicans have had it. they've leaving. they're heading off to texas, arizona, so a big with chunk of that voting base is going home. the other side is i know a lot of people want to do the comparison to, let's say, president trump, because he was a reality tv star, but he kind of had the image of million their, man who gets things done, monster, take no prisoner and you're fired where the kardashians and the jenners kind of have like the circus thing and all kinds of crazy stuff going on, so i'm not sure how far conservatives and republicans are going to jump onboard with that. like i said, this is america, you're welcome to try. good luck. and, of course, gavin's approval rating has gone up recently, if you can believe that. on a scale of 1-10, who wants to take it, who's going to give him an 8 or above?

who wants it? >> i'll take it. >> anyone? >> i think caitlin jenner really has -- i mean, listen, you watch how the landscape is and you look at the chessboard in california, i think caitlin jenner has a chance. there's a couple reasons here. one, because she is a republican. you know, she's fiscally conservative, socially liberal, she supported trump before she didn't before he came out and said some transgender things she did not appreciate. caitlin jenner is a republican. the problem is she doesn't have any political history. before arnold schwarzenegger won the recall back in 2003, he had a political history. we have no idea where caitlin jenner stands on any of this, but keep this in mind. when you go to recall gavin newsom, and it will be on the ballot, they ask you one question, one, should gavin newsom be recalled and, if so, who should replace him? that's it. that's all they ask. if he's recalled, we expect to have maybe 200 candidates in the

running. that means the winner could literally walk away as the governor of california by getting 20, 22% of the vote. it's one of those things where these are very odd. the last time this happened, schwartz network had a lot of momentum -- schwarzenegger had a lot of momentum. and newsom, he's on the ropes. this week there was an op-ed that talked about his vaccine rollout and how he lied about that, his overreach, saying he was following the science when, in fact, he was actually following politics and his schools, you know, bowing to the teachers union. they went after him. and when the san jose news is going after him and the l.a. times is starting to question him, it starts to get this tide rolling. tyrus, you're right, republicans are leaving, but 6 million californians vote for donald trump. there is a significant republican base, and it is now kind of tilting a little bit more towards the center these

days. >> trace, i appreciate -- [inaudible conversations] i was going to say i appreciate trace's initiative there. [laughter] i find the process -- i'm a nerd, so i find the process of the recall fascinating. as trace pointed out, two questions, you get a majority on wanting to recall newsom, and then it's whoever on the second question gets the most votes. you look at 2003 with governor gray davis, i think you had something like a hundred candidates in the race which allowed arnold schwartz network to win. i think -- schwarzenegger to win. that might give gavin newsom this advantage in the race, but california's one of only 20 states that have a recall provision that can remove a sitting governor. so i find the process aspect of this just to be really interesting as a political nerd which i know kristin is one as well. [laughter] >> all right, kristin, help me through this. i said 2, he said 8 --

[laughter] >> the better comparison is not donald trump, the better comparison might be arnold schwarzenegger who was able to pull off a recall window spite coming from a celebrity background. that is the difference between the early 2000s and now. one, california has become even bluer. it's harder and harder to imagine a republican winning statewide. and number two, schwarzenegger tried to fashion himself as very independent. yeah, i'm a republican but -- and whereas caitlin jenner has really begun hiring a lot of folks, a big piece of president trump's team. whether it's brad parscale, his former campaign manager, his pollster, caitlin is putting together a team of trump operatives and being very closely toyed to trump as -- tied to trump as much as possible at least in terms of building an operation. it's a little different than what we've got going on here. i don't remain optimistic about republicans' ability to win statewide e in california, but

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♪♪ mr. jones and me look into the future -- ♪ yeah, we stare at the -- >> mr. jones. welcome back to "the big saturday show." get your motor running, we are counting down as the biggest names in nascar gear up to take on the talladega super speedway tomorrow. fox nation will have its own car in the race, catch all the action at 2:00 p.m. eastern. charles watson is live on the raceway at talladega for a preview. charles, good day to you, sir. >> good day to you. well, you know, fans are certainly getting a taste of the action out on the track today, and they'll certainly be in for a treat tomorrow for the geico 500. fewer than 30,000 people will be here watching it live from the

talladega super speedway, that's less than half capacity, but that's still a pretty significant crowd when you consider we're in the midst of a pandemic. i do want to mention everyone is required to wear a mask and social distance, but that's not too hard when you have a setup like the tall getting keg -- talladega garage experience which is what you're seeing here. fans get to come here, relax, get some food and drink, and if you're sitting here, you're in a pretty good spot because fans are really close up when all the teams come zooming by op on the track you can see out there in the distance. after a year of not being able to attend live events like this, you can imagine a lot of these fans are pumped, they're excited to be here today. we, actually, spoke to and saw dozens and dozens of fans lined up in the rv section. they've been camping out here since about wednesday afternoon, and they've been just enjoying all the time, all the fun that

they've been having out here. and they plan to be out here until monday. so they're here for the action today, they're going to be here for the action tomorrow, and they're going to stick around for a little fun on monday. now, throughout the day i've been walking around talking to a lot of the fans and doing a sort of unofficial poll asking them who do you think will run away with the win tomorrow, and a lot of the fans have been telling me they think denny hamlin will come out with the win tomorrow. but if you ask me -- and i wouldn't ask me -- [laughter] i'm going to say corey he joy because he is driving in the fox nation car. there's my two cents. i don't know if anyone wanted it -- >> i hear because of the pandemic they weren't allowing qualifying and there was no practice, and i hear the cars going around the track behind you. what exactly is happening today? >> okay. so we had the acura 200 today, and is right now what we have going on is the pro 300. of course, those we're all

broadcasting on fs1. so these guys are, you know, full speed ahead. they're trying to get a win out here. we've seen a couple accidents out here today. looks like everyone is okay though. but this is some of the excitement that these fans are getting today in the buildup to tomorrow's geico 500, guys. >> charles watson live for us down there at a tall keg georgia. charles, enjoy. we appreciate it. charles is right, denny hamlin is clearly the favorite here, guys. and, you know, i think lejoy he's already said, hey, i think we can do well in this. he thinks they can place. that chevy camaro, that position nation chevy camaro, red, white and blue, do we have a picture? it looks dynamite. even if they don't place in the top three, you know, corey's going to look dang good driving around that track. tyrus. >> i'm jealous, man. charles, man, you get to be outside -- [laughter] in the sun, there's people.

i mean, i would go to a paint-peeling festival sit and watch if i could just to be outside. i think it's great we're starting to get back to things, and i'm all for the fox nation. do they have it in a long and tall. if they do, i'll drive it. maybe i could do the lap car, the lap race guy that starts at the beginning? i'm just glad to see people outside enjoying some of the great things in this country. lucky, lucky charles. >> kristin? >> there is nothing like being at an auto race live. whether it's indie car, nascar, i grew up in central the florida, so my dad would sometimes take me tonight practice at daytona. so much fun, so loud, so envious. >> and i worked in central florida, and i also got to go to a few of the daytona 500s, and you're right, there is nothing like being down there in the pit when they are rolling around at a couple hundred miles per hour. lisa, last word. >> obviously, we a all want the same guy to win, so go, him, go

fox nation guy. most of what i know from car racing comes from ricky bobby in talladega nights -- [laughter] i know that if you're not first, you're last. i would actually love to drive a race car, but i would probably go 80 miles per hour and think that's fast because i drive like a grandmother. >> and how did i know ricky bobby was going to make his way -- [laughter] >> i had to. >> it is talladega. >> yeah, exactly. >> up next, science now explaining why gazing at yourself in the mirror, get that? gazing at yourself in the mirror feels so good. what researchers are saying about vanity, next. ♪ -- all night long. ♪ the one that makes me love you -- ♪ that's all you gotta do ♪♪ [ engine revving ] [ race light countdown ]

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here. [laughter] >> of course. how are you feeling now? >> nothing, nothing. i just, i'm looking at the same mug i've been looking my swire life. i don't get it. let me try from a different angle. >> let us know if that's better. >> yeah. >> no, it's -- [laughter] it's still just me. >> no rushes of dopamine there? interesting. >> no. no goose bumps. nothing. >> all right. i'll take your word for it. >> nothing. >> trace, are instagram influencers then some of the happiest among us then? because essentially the entire feed is pictures of themselves. >> yeah, my niece is an influencer, and she makes a lot of money. they're doing great. looking in the mere are over the -- mirror over the past year, we have had to do our own tv makeup. makeup artists couldn't get -- >> oh, i don't wear makeup. >> i know you don't, tyrus, i

know. but some of us have to. when it's 2:00 in the morning and you're filling in for bill hemmer, you're thinking, more makeup. >> bill hemmer -- [laughter] >> satisfaction? i don't think satisfaction is the right term. normally i look in the mirror and say, hey, how's the jacket look, that kind of stuff, is the tie straight, more than, man, that's just sad. so i don't really see the satisfaction. >> i mean, this is a great looking panel though. kristin, doesn't it matter what time, right? of course you're all ready for tv, oh, yeah, i can work with this, this is already. but if it's in the morning, if it's really early as trace is pointing out, maybe you went out the night before, you've got bags under your eyes, dark circles, maybe not quite the rush of dopamine there, right? >> i'm not anti-selfie, i wrote a book about selfies in politics. but i do think during the pandemic we've had a lot of folks who have had to switch to working on zoom, going to school

on zoom, and seeing your own face in that camera, scientists are finding it's actually exhausting. so there may be limits. you may be able to get a little dopamine hit checking to see if your hair's in place, but after a while that can be really exhausting. turning that camera off if you're stung in a long finish stuck in a long zoom class or meeting so you don't get exhausted focusing on your whole face. >> i appreciate the plug for the book, that was well played, kristin. trace, to kristin's point, are we too self-absorbed as a society? >> yeah. i think when you start looking for validation from your instagram photos and start looking at facebook and those kinds of things and you look at a picture and count how many likes and if there's not enough, you feel like it was a lousy picture and stuff, i think when you get into the whole part of validating yourself by the number of likes you have and the number of, you know, comments and stuff, i think it becomes a problem. i mean, you know, i'm just, i'm not really a prolific poster when it comes to that kind of

stuff, and i think people tend -- and i have two daughters who are very much into social media and stuff, and i've told them often, you know, don't look for validation from people that are looking at your pictures. just, you know, do something good with your life. >> unless they're making, you know, $10,000, $20,000 from the post, and then it's like, you know -- [laughter] >> yeah. >> tyrus, how are we doing over there the? >> i'm sorry, i was in the game. i was in the gaze. i feel it. >> how are we doing? >> i think as a society i'm worried. you know, we're all influencers, but i definitely felt the gaze. there is some truth to this. i do have the goose bumps, and the only thing i'm trying to figure out now is how do i selfie this. i'm just trying to -- i can't put the mirror and the phone together u so i'm in trouble here -- >> tyrus, i'll do it for you. >> maybe try taking a selfie and then reading kristin's book.

kristin, where can people find it? i'm going to give you a quick plug -- >> the phone to the mirror. [laughter] >> there you go. that's not a bad idea. >> so where can people find it? >> amazon, barnes -- >> all right, we >> law enforcement under growing pressure with release body cam video this week deadly shooting of a black man in north carolina. good evening i'm jon scott and this is the "fox report." jon: death of andrew brown jr. is sparking new wave of protest across the country. deputies shot and killed him wednesday while executing a search and arrest warrant at his home. griff jenkins is reporting live from elizabeth city, north carolina. griff. reporter: good evening, jon for a fourth night protesters will take to the streets peacefully here in elizabeth city in demand

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