eastern, you can't be missing that. jedediah: [laughter] i don't know him. pete: we'll mix it up. i don't know. i don't know. tune in at 7:00 to find out. jedediah: pete don't forget your hat. pete: maybe. neil: all right, what are these three images have in common, churchill downs, the site of course of the kentucky derby, and disneyland, out in california, and amazon? amazon deliveries, more to the point. well, they are all signs of an economic comeback, the likes of which few analysts saw a little more than a few months ago, but an economy on fire today. welcome, everybody glad to have you i'm neil cavuto, and for the next two hours, we are going to be looking at stuff like this , personal income, soaring over 21%, spending better than 4%, you are a big

reason why we, as a country, are the envy of the world, because you have decided you've had enough of the pandemic, you're itching to get out, you're itching to go to, well horse races, you're itching to go to disneyland, now-reopened albeit at limited capacity and you're itching to spend which is why, in the first quarter of the year , we had overall economic growth north of 6.4%. what's going on here? we're going to detail it as well as then take a look at whether an economy that is doing that well needs any help at all from, well, the government. let's explore that now with mark meredith with the president of wilmington, delaware because there's a lot of spending on tap and now growing questions as to whether this economy really needs it. what do you have? reporter: hey, neil good morning to you. that's right. president biden is making it clear he wants to spend a lot of taxpayer money, but getting congress on board with this idea is the big obstacle and there's even reports that the some democrats are starting to grow uncomfortable with the price tag

of this white house-proposed spending spree. on friday the president had a chance to go up to philadelphia to mark amtrak's 50th birthday but also there he renewed his push to invest in sports and yes , america's railways. the white house insisting that major investments now is really the only way that they're going to be able to navigate country out of the pandemic. >> that's the reason why it's recovering, because we're invest ing. look how rapidly its recovered since we passed the last piece of legislation, and that legislation was $1.9 trillion. if we don't seattle in this country, we're going to actually start to, we're going to fall behind even further. reporter: but neil as you mentioned with the stock market reaching new highs and unemployment down significantly from where it was a year ago republicans question why the need to spend so much money right now? republican senator cotton steve danes tweeting under president biden the era of big government is back and it's bigger than ever. biden's first 100 days have ic

tariff en our country down a destructive path and have been far from unifying or bipartisan so that's senator danes take. we know the president is hosting congressional leaders from both parties at the white house in a little less than two weeks from now that's the first meeting of his kind with this new president so the question is will they be able to agree to some sort of deal that's the white house goal and as for the president this weekend no public events on his schedule he is at his home in delaware, maybe watching the derby a little bit later on today. neil? neil: all right as a lot of other folks mark thank you, my friend, mark meredith in delaware so we come back to this notion, with the economy firing on all cylinders is there really a need for much help from uncle sam? to be fair to the president his argument is this is not necessarily meant as stimulus as investments in our future infrastructure, families and kids that sort of thing but again it's in the eye of the beholder and sometimes in the eye of the party line, let's go to dan geltrude, the cpa and market analyst, daniel de martin o, former dallas

advisor, and adam lashinsky, fox news contributor. so, danielle, if i could begin with you. do we need all of this spending when it looks like americans have plenty of impetus to spend, and are, as we speak? >> well, neil, that's a good question. the bigger issue, i think, is how the countries going to compete on the global stage, with china, where fiscal spending there really has gone into things like building out airports, bridges, tunnels, highways, and it was interesting to hear president biden say that the reason the economy is doing so well right now is because of investment. you mentioned personal income, it rose 21% if you adjust that for inflation it rose 27%, twice what it was in april 2020, with the cares act, 95% of that was government transfer payments , so we're paying people

to consume, right now, but as far as investing in the future of america we haven't done a whole lot and the same exact politicians in washington that crafted obama's shovel- ready infrastructure plan that did a whole lot of nothing for the economy, are crafting this next $4 trillion of invest ing in america, my biggest issue is if you don't get the private sector engaged, you mentioned some great companies in your opening statement. if you don't get the private sector engaged i'm not so sure that this isn't just going to be a huge bureaucratic thing. neil: well to hear a lot of democrats tell us, they think dan geltrude and you're a fine accountant in your own rights that the numbers will add up and that this will generate more than enough revenue to all be pay for , that was the view of california congressman when i talked to him earlier this week. want you to react to this. >> you'd have to have a lot of growth, right, congressman, for it to pay for all of this spending you'd have to hope for something like an internet

boom that the clinton administration enjoyed to get anything like that, right? >> you'd have to hope for the type of growth we saw in the 1980s and 1990s but i believe we can do it. i believe we can have 4%-5% growth. neil: 4-5% growth. that will go a long way, what do you think, dan? >> we'll get that initially, neil, because we're coming out of this pandemic and the economy is rebooting itself, but after that period of time, we're not going to sustain that type of growth. i think that we should call this what it is. it is a redistribution of wealth in this country. it's being disguised under these nice names as a rescue plan, jobs plan, family plan, and don't get me wrong. some of this spending is required, infrastructure is required. we just don't need to spend to this extent, but when you have

an opportunity to spend because you believe that you have congress' support, he may not but he believes his party is in control, well, that opens the flood gates, and let's not forget, neil, both parties have been guilty of spending wildly, so it's not just the democrats, but now there's an opportunity for them to buy votes they are going to take advantage of that. neil: yeah, i mean, republicans lecturing anyone on how much money is being spent is sort of like me telling you to put down the fork at a dessert bar but leaving that aside, adam lashinsky, one of the issues that i worry about though is that both parties have abandoned how we pay for things. that seems long gone, now, maybe you get a boom in activity that pays back for some of this , but it's highly unlikely, i think, so what are we looking at here, especially when married with this , we have these tax hikes on people like dan and that could cripple dan's spending then what? >> and the reason both parties

have abandoned their principles whatever principles they had on this issue, neil is that interest rates have stayed low for so long and inflation has stayed low for so long, that effectively, it hasn't mattered so the question becomes, will it matter in the future. your concern, and i share it, is that it will matter in the future. i largely agree with everything we've been talking about so far, but this is often about the meaning of the words. there's two reasons the economy is doing better in the united states and that's one of the vaccine and the second is the stimulus and these are policy moves that the biden administration is making. i would just quibble with one thing. they aren't so much trying to buy votes as to do what they think is right politically. i'm looking at the cup half full on that, neil. neil: i got it. well, you're doing something else politically, it does buy votes right? we'll see , but we'll sort it out but danielle, back to the tax increases that are a part of this , 6 trillion-plus in spending but if you think about it as huge and record setting as

the tax hikes are, they don't come close to paying for about a third of that so what are we looking at here on just the tax hikes, you can either extend them and charge the rich more that is constantly-evolving definition for what is a fair share for them to pay or you broaden it out a little bit to include people who aren't just the rich. what do you think? >> so its been a pretty astonishing consensus between republicans and democrats, most of whom agree that the uber uber ultra ultra, top 0.1% the billionaires of the country, need to be a little bit soaked and we'll see if the lobbyists even allow that to happen. again, this is all, they're such good sound bites, neil but when you look at some of the fine print of what's being discussed, and you consider the cost of living in new jersey and connecticut and new york and california and when you call household income of half a million and say that you're

going to tax the rich, it's not the same thing and you could be talking about an economic slow down, as a result of that and you also have to remember that the big, the other big d, which is demographics. you have millions upon millions of baby boomers retiring early. if they're going to be pulling their money out of the stock market, neil, in order to through and get in front of any increase in capital gains taxes that could set off a different daisey chain that we really don't want to see , because so many americans, 55% of americans do have ownership in the stock market, and you don't want to see the second-largest generation start to make their way for the exits earlier, because they see this economy and overheating as booming driven by the stimulus checks, and everybody make their way for the exit at the same time. there are a lot of moving pieces here but you have to be very careful when you start to raise taxes, especially when you bring the bar down low enough to where it starts to hit upper middle income earners in places where

it's expensive to live in america. neil: only thing that worries me , daniel, with what you said is almost every time i have you on you talk about baby boomers retiring and you know i'm a baby boomer and it's almost as if your encouraging it and pushing me out the door. i don't like it personally. just saying, just saying. stay there guys we'll be dealing with this and a lot of other issues with you a little bit later on here. i do want to take you a hop across the pond now, and see what's going on in paris right now the may day protests are building there. these are global events that recognize pretty much union movements and union activity across the country, there are a lot of cutbacks going on in the latest budgets in france and a lot of cradle-to-grave securities they've been given that have been scaled back actually over the last few years if you think about it but this latest wave of cutbacks envisioned by emmanuel macron are not going down easily there. we're on top of that, because this is expected to escalate and

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resources that the department of homeland security needs to help solve this problem, and so you're shutting down the tension is not going to make the problems at the border better, it's not going to protect the homeland. those are necessary resources and that's why they are in inventory, and to suggest that we could do without them, or that we're going to end them, it makes no sense to me at all. neil: you know, we're learning a little bit more about the cut and funding for the border wall, that the biden administration had included in its skinny budget. in other words, not included in that skinny budget, but that he had specifically canceled all border wall projects that were paid for with diverted military funds, so that was a rationale for doing so, what did you make of that? >> well that's less resources, that's less capability on the border. i would urge this administration to help the men and women of cbp , specifically the border patrol as it relates to the wall there are known gaps in the construction projects that exist right now and i would urge

them to close those gaps, when i was a chief in rio grande valley we had put up the wall and we intended to put gates in certain areas and the funding and the resources and the lawsuits prevented us from closing those gaps and that's manpower- intensive. you have to have somebody guarding those gaps 24/7 because that's a natural entry point for folk, and so i would urge them to sure up the gaps where the 18-foot barrier has, the 18- foot barrier on the right and the left you got to close up that gap, otherwise, you're going to be wasting valuable agent time to just sit and watch that opening in the wall. neil: ron, how important is it, to you, as someone who was a former border patrol chief, to see the president or the vice president for that matter, at the border, to go and visit these facilities? >> well, it leaves a great deal to the workforce even at my level when we went out aunt visited the men and women on the frontlines and asked them

what their needs were, asked them what their challenges were and then i could take that back to washington and work with my staff to try to meet those needs and then there is this whole morale boost that comes with it. you have somebody in authority, in the government, that's in your chain of command including the president, that knows what you do, and is eager to understand it, and then provide resources and provide information and get his staff to plan, to sure up these gaps, to help, you know, ameliorate this crisis i think it be very valuable for them to do. neil: you know, it's not much we know about the human trafficking part of this , outside of this development this past week where 90 people were found in a houston home that looked like any home in any neighborhood in this country, 90 people crowded in there. what did you make of that and the fact that maybe what's been happening at the border is what triggered it. >> well that's a symptom. this is a symptom of what happens when the border is in

chaos. these 90 people were smuggled into the houston area. imagine if you lived on that street. imagine your kids riding their bikes back and forth along that block how dangerous that is for neighborhoods and then there's 90 people in a small family home, probably being extorted, probably being human trafficked and if you've got 90 people just crossed the border illegally there's at least a handful of them that had criminal records, and so it's an unsafe and unsanitary condition for those individual migrants to be in, but it's also a danger to that community, and an example of what happens when we don't have sufficient resources and control of the border. neil: all right, now, i do know the administration will tap the agriculture department to provide personnel to help. i don't know specifically if it's going to be at the border, ron, we just hear up to 500 individuals. i'm not sure it's going to work with the agriculture department ever signed up for that but what do you make of that? >> yeah, this was done before

in the 2014 surge as well. you're looking for government employees because they're clear ed and they have known backgrounds so that they could interact and help alleviate some of the shelters or the border patrol spaces, right? so they can do things that help care and comfort for these migrants that are in custody. you know, rolling back this policy and not having sufficient resources at the border is going to go down as a mistake. to say that it's getting better okay, fine. they've moved more migrants out of border patrol kudlow last month and into hhs care, but not having sufficient shelter space and reversing the policy without , and knowing that that was going to be the result, is just a big mistake, and unfortunately, it's the men and women of cbp and their families that have to go through this stress and they're the ones at the frontline that see the bulk of this problem. they can't say no to this traffic, when an un accompanied minor comes up to an immigration officer whether cbp or border patrol agent, they have to take them into custody. that's the law.

there's no option there. there's no space at hhs, but it just continues to backup, and they've done better but it's nowhere near to where it needs to be. neil: all right, ron, i appreciate that i i did want to pick your brain on that ron viti ello, always good seeing you have a wonderful weekend. you remember when we had the norwegian cruise line ceo on this show, and he was repeatedly saying, you've got to allow cruises again, i'm testing all my workers and those who board my ships that they have been vaccinated, that they are covid- free, open the ports up. now, a word from the cdc that they are going to do just that, in july. you're welcome, america. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪i've got the brains you've got the looks♪

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neil: any reaction you've had from the biden administration, governor, on this? >> well from them, they told me they would circle back, but they have denied giving us our permits that we need to host this event, and for me, i'm incredibly disappointed because it wasn't based on anything significant. we had metal the environmental checklists. we had the no-no go checklist prepared and agreed to, consulted with our tribes, it appears to be a very partisan and political denial of our right to host this fireworks event. neil: all right, and governor christie nome of alaska is now suing the biden administration over blocking fireworks at mount rushmore on july 4 you might recall last year president trump went there and there were no fires no problems no

environmental issues but no fireworks planned right now, and we've got dr. debbie joining us nyu school of medicine, and doctor, it's a gut call, you're a doctor, you're not in charge of fireworks, but is there a danger in a setting, anything having to do with the virus let alone brush fires and all the rest, which governor said has been addressed then and are addressed now, is there a danger to people being packed together for fireworks at mount rushmore outside, july 4? >> there's always a risk of catching the virus. i mean when people are in a crowd the question is whether it's acceptable or not, but people have a choice about whether to attend and, you know, ultimately it's up to the people who attend and up to the governor and up to the government there, the tribes and the local government what they want to do, so i agree with her

that there should be clear criteria about what constitutes like an approval or a denial. neil: you know, i do get , right , but i get mixed messages, from all sorts of medical authorities on the masking, wear it, not wear it, the president wasn't wearing a mask when he spoke to the nation behind him obviously the vice president and the speaker were, confusing signals out of the cdc about be careful going back out in america, traveling, but okay with cruises resuming in this country in july. i'm just wondering do those inconsistent signals do more harm than good? >> well, i think that's the biggest problem that we have , the inconsistent signals. i think what we should have is some type of criteria, not necessarily numbers of cases or percentages but some type of criteria for whether something

can take place, kind of like we have a constitution and then we have the supreme court that's there to interpret it, because right now, what happens is that each thing is being considered on a case-by-case basis and the cdc is often looked at to make a decision and there's not necessarily consistency from one event to another, so for example , in this situation with mt rushmore, this is an open air space of course people have a risk of catching a virus that's always there but open air, you have much less risk than if you consider a cruise ship, so i'm not against the cruise line industry, but relatively, you know, what is open air, and one is more contained, so you have more chance of getting covid but you also have more chances of getting a diarrhea outbreak as well and then we look at the criteria that are being used, so for example, with the cruise ships what the cdc has said is that 95% of the passengers can be vaccinated and 98% of the staff have to be vaccinated and that's one of the criteria for them to operate, but then,

to me that seems like an extremely high target. i don't know if that's realistic , so is that really allowing them to operator is that just in name only because if you say 95% of the passengers have to be vaccinated, this is one of the alternatives. if 95% of the passengers have to be vaccinated, that's pretty much the same as a vaccine passport, which the biden administration has said that they are not in favor of, especially when there's a disparity in terms of the distribution of the vaccine, and if you think about the staff that's the same as saying, well essentially the staff has to get vaccinated or if you think about the cruise ship industry where you have international staff as well, well we have a lot of countries that are not able to administer the vaccine, especially if you think about india oral of the 92 countries that it has promised supply and the countries it has already supplied, so are you trying to promote american jobs or is this just another inconsistency as you mentioned?

neil: all right, doctor thank you very very much on that and by the way we're getting a lot of e-mails on this and cruise lines coming back. one of a particular viewer, arle ne saying neil, are you seriously taking credit for cruise ships returning to the seas, simply because you had the norwegian cruise line ceo on your show? yes, i am, because he was on a couple of times and he said that he is requiring all who work on his ship and all who board his ship have proof that they've been vaccinated. he came on, counted that, we got a lot of e-mail on it, so, you know, fast forward, the cdc is now saying cruise lines can operate. so you're welcome for that. i didn't like the snippy comment but i'm trying to save the country at the same time i'm reading a prompter which is not easy to do we'll have more, after this. good boy! [laughs] ♪ hold my pouch. ♪

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neil: now, you might have heard about this 1619 project going on to chart the course of u.s. history, to that time rather than 1776 or the declaration of independence because that's when slavery started in this country, and it's an effort on the part of those who want to revamp education curriculum to look at it through the prism of slavery rather than the traditional views we have of the declaration of independence. i'm sort of getting in the weeds here to say that republicans upon hearing of this join mitch

mcconnell 37 strong to say this is ridiculous, obviously, include and talk about slavery and all that do not sort of rewrite the chapters that defined our country's history. we're going to have a fair and balanced discussion of this , with republican senator and the democratic senator i begin with roger marshall the kansas republican senator and his thoughts on this. senator what do you think mitch mcconnell was saying that this is, it goes entirely the wrong direction. what do you think? >> well, neil, good morning. first of all from the senate in kansas just finished up a town hall here and the folks are fired up here but to answer your question, you know, this is exactly why most americans don't want the federal government involved in their local schools. we don't want the federal government promoting a curriculum, especially a curriculum that's submissive and tries to erase the true history. i don't know about you but i became a patriot in forth grade when i was asked to write an essay on the declaration of independence. i got second place, i'm so upset

i didn't win it but in the next year, we started studying american history and in our revolutionary leaders, our founding fathers, got me excited about the quality of people they were, and they made mistake, i made mistakes, we've all made mistakes, but we cannot solve the problems of this country, by continuing to be divisive. you don't fight height with height and defeat racism with racism and instead preaching a message of forgiveness in this country and we need to learn to be able to forgive each other, learn from our history and not erase it. neil: do you think that this will be part of school curriculum, though, because those who even support the project say that was not the intent but you're saying they are misleading us? >> oh, i think they will be. i think that this gives funding to make this curriculum more available in schools who want to include this in their curriculum , you know, and i get it. this is actually a philosophical

literature i think 1619 is so maybe when you're in that sophomore college philosophy class, you read the communist manifesto, you read the 1619 i get that. we should be exposed to literature of different types but it's not a historically accurate, already we have a huge problem in this country it that our children don't understand our history, and they flunk all types of civic programs as well. we don't teach government, neil, less than half the people know that we even have three branches of the federal government. most americans would flunk the immigration civics test as well, so we've got some work to do before we start getting kids philosophy and encourage divisiveness, so let's teach the facts, and save some of the philosophy for a little bit later in life. neil: but you be open to maybe including more classes or discussions of slavery and its role early in the country. that has come up in a lot of

groups who were supporting this that we don't cancel one and favor the other but include this back story. >> neil, absolutely. if you would ask me, maybe there probably is an under representation of what slavery is and its impact on the country you know, one of the great things i've done in congress is try to go to all of the museums and opportunities to earn had in d.c. including the african americans history museum and i learned so much that i didn't know as well about cotton and just the impact of slavery on this world and just some of the gruesomeness of what truly truly happened so you're right. we need more learning about it, but not in the context of increasing divisiveness and erasing what is history as well and i get it. he who writes the history book controls history but let's don't erase the truth. let's expand upon it and try to learn more to teach our kids all the truth. neil: senator roger marshall, good seeing you thank you for coming in on a saturday,

senator always good to see you as it is my next guest, democratic pennsylvania senator, bob casey. senator very good to see you, thank you for coming in. what do you think of this back and forth on this 1619 project, sir? >> well, neil look. i think at a time when we're debating big ideas about how to lift our economy out of the ditch and how to recover from the pandemic, i think we should be debating issues that most americans are focused on in their daily life, not what the department of education is going to do and proposing curriculum, or ideas for our history, but if we're going to have the debate, i think it's really important to talk about some of the history. the history that a lot of us learn. now senator marshall and i, he's a new senator, he's a very nice guy, and a brilliant doctor, and he and i were born the same year as white males we've had a pretty good deal for the last 60 -some years but if you're not

a white male in america, over many many generations, its been brutal for so many families and i think we should learn more about that history, and make sure that our children learn more. i think both of us are just learning things that we didn't learn in school, and i was just looking at the new york times 1619 publication. here is like the fifth page, you can't see it but that's a picture of a lynching, in 1910, and that's of almost 50 years after slavery. i didn't know a lot of this history, so it's important that we learn it, because we can't be the country we say we are and try to be a more perfect union unless you learn the whole history and a lot of it, a lot of that history, unfortunately, is about racism, and about white supremacy. neil: well there's no doubt, no doubt about that senator, and i get what you're saying including information online ings and the rest that define sadly so

much of our experience in this country, and after the civil war, all valid, all to include, but to then go back to 1619 as the starting point of looking at the american history experienced through the prism of just slavery, that's a whole other matter, is it not? >> no i don't think it is, neil look, 1619 is a year where the discussion should start. that's where it started and i think we need to know that. i think a lot of americans -- neil: well where would 1776 fall into that discussion? >> neil, we have a lot of history about 1776 and a lot of it's very valuable to learn. we are learn about the founding fathers. we can be inspired by their words and things they did, but also, highlight and learn about

mistakes that they made. look, we know that the constitution had some lies from the very beginning, in terms of all men are created equal, or the declaration and the constitution. we know that some of the terminology, some of the pre cepts in there weren't based upon truth and i just think that the children should learn that. neil: one of the key points of the 1619 project is that the whole revolution itself was predicated on slavery. do you accept that as a given, as the 1619 project? >> i don't think there's any question that we should be reviewing our history from that vantage point in ways that a lot of us were not exposed to and then at the end of the debate, or the end of the exposure to that education, people can make their own mind up and draw conclusions, but to just erase or sideline a lot of history, i think just perpetuate s the kind of white

supremacy that is, i think, too often dominated not just our history, and our culture, but even our government. neil: so you're assessing the fact that we don't adequate ly discuss slavery or cover it enough in classes? it's a good deal of attention incur when you talk about events that led up to the civil war and the horrific period you talked about, senator, after that. you don't think it's adequately addressed as things stand now? >> no, and look, i based it upon my own, i had a great education, but there are a lot of gaps in it, because most schools don't teach this history , and neil, i think it's more than just slavery itself. it's all that came after, and the average just holding a book here, i just started reading this boom recently, michelle alexander. i should have read this book 10

years ago when it was published. i'm just learning more about it but so much that happened after reconstruction was obliterated and it was the rise of the kkk and then they were knocked down and then they rose up again, so look we've got to learn this history. a lot of americans don't know it neil: yeah, all right, i guess maybe a different schooling experience, senator, because i did learn a lot of that. i did learn about the rise and the fall and the rise again of the kkk, maybe it depends to your point on the school system, but the edict about upending everything after 1619, the americans starting point -- >> let me make one more -- neil: know that you so upend. >> let me make one quick point the fact that leader mcconnell was writing to the department of education he can do whatever he wants but i wish he would write them a letter and tell them whether or not he supports some

of our proposals to invest more in education. we just passed a rescue plan that invested 130 billion in our school so you got more than half of the k-12 schools that are open now, largely i think because of that investment coming, why doesn't he have an idea about opening schools or about investing more in education as opposed to telling them don't have this curriculum or don't make this , don't have this proposal part of your idea, so look, i hope that leader mcconnell will start talking to the american people about whether he supports the jobs plan and the family plan to lift people up, and if he has a better idea, fine but the republican party right now in washington just seems to be bankrupt in terms of policy so they talk about dr. seuss and other issues. neil: well they talk about bankrupt though, senator i think they are worried about the fact we're doing these initiatives and spending when we technically are bankrupt. but that's another discussion for another day. >> but how do we get the

economy -- neil: really you think this economy is in a ditch right now? >> yeah. yes, it is, for a lot of people. look i know some people will look at it -- neil: wait, wait, we grew at a 6.4% clip in the first quarter. retail sales were the strongest they've been in seven years, i can go through all of these, you think we are in a ditch right now? >> yes. a lot of families have not recovered yet and that's why we got to help them. neil: all right we can respectfully argue that point another time and we will. senator i want to thank you very very much. >> neil, thanks. neil: maybe on to less thorny topics right now, churchill downs and the kentucky derby. you know, we were looking at this and i caught sight of a horse, apparently named "rock your world" and besides the obvious potential patent infringement there, i've made this my horse to look at, and 9- 2 odds right now, but i seem to remember very popular cable

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neil: all right, it's the first saturday in may the kentucky derby didn't happen last year certainly not the first saturday in may i think they pushed it off to september last year, and even then, no one in the stands. now they are going to have up to 45,000, which is 100,000 fewer than would normally be the case but it is a start. folks pretty psyched for that, l ydia hu and all that there in kentucky with the very very latest.

lydia? reporter: hi there, neil. we have a beautiful day on this derby saturday, like you said expecting around 45,000 people to be here, there were a little over 41,000 people here yesterday already, to watch the kentucky oaks race, and back today, some of them returning, and the question of the moment though, is does it count as the kentucky derby if you're not sipping on a mint julep to get to the bottom of that question, we have jackie ziker, here, a master taster of old forrester. jackie thank you so much for being here. tell us, is it the kentucky derby if you don't have a mint julep? >> of course not so old forrester is the official julep of the kentucky derby but this cocktail has been official since 1938 and every year there's a signature glass that everybody collects and used to be the water glasses but everybody kept taking the glasses home with them they would sell a julep to get something out of it so it is a fresh julep, already done in a bottle and we've been rolling

with this for many many years now. reporter: couldn't be easier and you've prepared beautiful cocktails we aren't sipping them now, but i can't promise they won't last very long after this segment. what makes a really great mint julep, what ingredients are needed? >> of course the fantastic bourbon old forrester makes the best mint julep out there, that's why it's the official of the derby but fresh mint is key and when you garnish you'll want to slap it on the back of your hand that you open up all the oils and it's right in your face. reporter: you slap it, you don't muddle it? >> yeah, slap it on your hand as a garnish. reporter: wow thank you so much for that insight after the insight and kentucky dish it , frequentness and then the belmont stake, we'll find out whether we have a triple crown winner and we could all use something to get excited about. thanks so much. neil: i hear you, and very up lifting. we really needed that so i'm glad to see you and go rock your

world, by the way. that's my choice, so keep rock ing your world. all right, so i know, i know, place your bets. luca garza, he's an outstanding basketball player in the 2021 nba draft prospect, college player of the year, former university of iowa center , he's pretty savvy when it comes to money he's an economics major after all, not an easy major, and he made history, becoming the first college athlete to own a non-fun gible token reeping better than $41,000, an opportunity for some lucky winner, to get not only autographed shoes at the game in which he played, and a lot of other cool stuff, but this has never been done, something like this. he's kind enough to join us right now, luca congratulations very good to have you. >> thank you, i appreciate you having me on here.

neil: what got you interested in this , not basketball, you had a talent for that at a very very young age and obviously it's reflected in your career, but this whole tie to this whole new technology, this digital technology, what got you involved? >> well as you said i'm an economics major so i've been following the tech world closely and seeing what everything is happening in cryptocurrency and when nba kind of fell in love with that idea, but i never thought of an entity of my own and my father actually presented the idea to me to do one of my own and i wanted to make it unique and special, and that's why we kind of added all of the different things that come with it to make it more of an experience, than just one but it was amazing and to be able to give back to the university of iowa children's hospital with part of the proceeds, it was an amazing feeling. neil: you got a lot of people

who are interested in bidding this , but you've taken this one step further. you've got this luka garza nft group. explain how that is going to work going forward. >> so, you know, with names and likeness looking past july 1 in 14 states and obviously, in the future, around all of the country, hopefully, i wanted to have a place where athletes could come to me or any sport and i could create their own nft and help them start to monetize and the likeness and i think that's whole arguing is being able to create a new revenue stream that doesn't takeaway from the ncaa and all of their money but being able to make money off your own name in different ways and this is one of the better ways because it's the future of it's basically a digital trading card so it's the future of collectibles and memorabilia and it's a really great idea so i wanted to after i released mine,

-- neil: oops. i think we're having some technical difficulty there, but i did want to remind you, this is starting a trend right now, i should point out trevor lawrence, the clemson start quarterback whose just signed on with the jacksonville jaguars, he was just recruited by them, he has accepted some of his pay, in bitcoin. expect others to follow, others already are, so this is a trend that is picking up considerable steam. all right, we have a lot coming up in the second hour here, we're following developments in paris right now, the may day protests and the environment around that. it's a global day, we recognize unions, very friendly president in the white house here, that is supporting that in europe, where they're worried about unions losing their umph just the opposite those protests continue with concern that the government is cutting back on benefits that they have gotten used to and they don't

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>> we are still getting more details on that home in houston where 90 people were crowded, a part of a human smuggling ring. we still don't know exactly how they got there and how many were sick. in fact, maybe many of them with covid, but how it got to be and how many more might still be out there in homes that otherwise look just hike everyday american homes in everyday american neighborhoods. william la jeunesse has been over this very, very closely with what authorities are using and he joins us from texas. >> likely the immigrants traveled through this road.

there are 30 check points along the southwest border, this is the busiest heavily trafficked check point on the border. every vehicle you see here is going to be checked by the border patrol at the station north of me. i'm in the rio grande valley of course the busiest border sector and of course, this road, highway 281 goes right to san antonio and houston up to the stash houses like we see in houston. for the thousands of immigrants who don't get caught, this is the last chance for the border patrol to find them. usually stuffed in the back of a tractor-trailer or hidden in the bed of a pickup truck. we're about 65 miles actually north of the border. here is how it works. you have the agents have work the border, the fence, if you will, the roving patrols and people picked up on camera or sensors and check points like this one and trying to stop people from going to stash houses in phoenix, san diego or houston. yesterday dps and houston police found 90 immigrants stashed inside a house, a drop

house, if you will. some had not eaten for days. they were dehydrated and police say they were looking into a kidnapping case and whatl happen is these criminal organizations will try to extort additional money from families and get a mother or father on the phone and beat the migrant until they cry or cry out for help and extort more money or payment. here is what two neighbors had to say about that house. >> that's how it is, you know. and then if you don't pay it, they keep you until your family member pays something and then they'll release youment that's how it is. >> and wasn't expecting it in my neighborhoods, what makes my neighborhood exempt? >> so we're at this check point and here they've got technology that helps them see through the skin of a tractor-trailer, they have their own k-9 unit here and they successfully rescued hundreds of migrant from inside

vehicles. a texas congressman this morning told fox and friends that the biden administration is not doing enough to reduce the incentives, say prosecution or detention that drives those migrant here to the u.s. illegally. >> now what we've seen, it's not just those along the borders, it's houston, it's san antonio and it's going to elsewhere as well. it's not the crisis, is continuing to grow. >> so basically, i'm told the numbers for april will be coming out in a few days, neil. they're going to be down slightly 10,000 or maybe more. here in the rio grande they were apprehending 25 migrants a day, 2500, excuse me. that will be closer to 2000, but nevertheless we know two senators from arizona are now joining some of their fellow congress people from texas and saying the biden administration needs to do more along the border, neil. neil: all right.

thank you very much for that, william la jeunesse. joining us right now the texas republican congressman. nothing new to him. in fact, has seen this before. congressman, thank you for taking some time. so you don't think this is an ice lated-- isolated incident what we saw in the houston area? >> no, in fact tony got it right. in midland, texas, 33 illegal immigrants were found in a stash housement we heard joe biden say that just give me five days, i'm working on it. what he meant was, give me five days and i'm going to abolish ice and bow down to the radical left, the progressive part of his policy that wants to abolish all law enforcement and defund not just the police, but our border patrol and ice agents. they're the ones who found the house in midland and trying to keep our communities safe. meanwhile shall -- meanwhile, the president is not doing anything for the border.

neil: i don't believe he's said abolish ice, but the incidents that have come to light have actually happened because or from that surge at the border. do you have reason to believe that this might just be the sort of the tip of proverbial iceberg, that there are many, many more cases and many, many more houses that look fine from the outside, but are hiding a lot of these same migrants? >> well, absolutely. and you know, whether he says those words or not. i think the actions are clear that the policies, the failed policies, the reversal of policies are leading to record numbers of surges, but we have to remember that the folks that were found in this, these stash houses whether it's houston or midland or wherever, these are got-aways. folks to escaped detection and did not get caught so it will continue to get worse and we have reason to believe that those policies will lead to an even worse situation this year. there's estimates up to two million immigrants that will be

contacted by customs and border protection agents this year. neil: all right. i believe as well, congressman, the first time in about five or six years the department of agriculture is going to be involved in helping with matters at the border, i believe up to 500 personnel here, but that alone won't cut it, will it? >> no. i mean, i think the -- you know, we had policies that began with the trump administration, the coordination, the you know, that started with other countries and we've got to get back to those. the symptom is the border. the real issue are the policies. yes, you can put a couple hundred agents and by the way, governor abbott is doing that with national guard troops, with dps and you can see this with the department of agriculture, but it's not enough, you're absolutely right. neil: you know, congressman, we hear so many from texas, land owners, home owners and you know, that are right at that border and finding, you know,

the illegal crossing into their back yard and they fear for their security. do you know what provisions are taken to help them? >> well, there's really nothing that can be done by local law enforcement because the law is pretty specific here and so, yes, ranchers are contacting my office and me directly, that are not even on the border. they are into the interior of texas and they are afraid for their safety because you know, in one instance we had a home, a ranch home that was burned down by a group of illegal immigrants and you know, there's others that have found bodies on their land and this is, you know, we think, oh, that's sensational, these stories aren't happening. but it is happening, it's absolutely happening and the coyotes and people profiting from this are doing as much as they can to send as many people

in and we heard the gentleman who said his family will owe those people for a long time. neil: still in the process, the president seemed to indicate, congressman that he would have a response to this gentleman shouting questions about the border, what's going to happen at the border, that something seemed to be imminent within days. do you know what that is? do you have any recommendations for it? >> well, we absolutely have recommendations for him. we've invited both he and the vice-president to come visit the border, to come look at the agents in the eye, the customs and border protection agents who are putting their lives on the line every single day and to hear their stories. they have known terrorists who are coming through that they've apprehended and we've got record numbers and not to mention the fact that we're in a pandemic and it doesn't seem like the president cares about that aspect of it, meanwhile, up to 7,000, over 7,000 have

been put on airplanes paid for by u.s. tax dollars with no covid test. i mean, this is really insanity and we're asking him to come visit so he can see firsthand the crisis that his policies have caused. neil: all right. please keep us posted congressman, the texas congressman trying to keep up with this and in his district it's a big issue and a big worry. when we come back, the other side of the coin. a democratic congressman is looking at the same issue, but with different ideas after this. this is rebecca from michigan. coming at you live from the operating room. i'm an er nurse. and i absolutely love what i do. i knew that i wanted to do something meaningful with my life. ♪ ♪ i was over half a million dollars in debt from medical school until i found sofi. now i'm able to live out my dream and know i won't spend the rest of my life paying off those student loans, thanks to sofi. ♪ ♪

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for control at the border. neil: all right, that was part of the discussion earlier with the former acting ice director patella. we should point out now that all of this in light of this 90 people are found in a houston home, and fears there could be many more such homes. many more such people hidden in homes across the country and you wouldn't even know it. we heard from a republican congressman that says we've got to crock down and address what's happening at the border, the president, the vice-president, get to the border quickly. i want to go right now to scott peters the democratic california congressman, vice chair for the moderate new democratic coalition. congressman, if i could first address this pour border situation with this houston home, with 90 individuals, you know, crowded inside, do you fear there are more such homes around maybe quite a bit more? >> well, i'd be speculating about that, but i think it's

consistent with the surge we're seeing to the border from the south and that's happened under many administrations, including president trump and president obama. it's very important that we have enforcement and in some ways, i think the fact that this was apprehended and taken care of is a credit to the law enforcement and that's what we need along the border. and we have bigger problems than this, as your other guest said it's a symptom of a problem desperate people in the south trying to head north and give credit to the biden administration to urge asylum seekers and people in transit not to come. if you want asylum to apply from your own country. don't make this trip. don't send your children. i think that's the right message, but we've got to attempt to make things better down there and president trump had defunded a lot of efforts and they want people to stay home, in addition to doing

border security, which i think this was an example of, effective border security apprehending 90 people. neil: you know, the president blames donald trump for a lot of this. do you? >> you know, i guess i would, but blame is not my focus. we've had a border challenge and immigration challenge for a long time. when i first came to congress in 2013, the senate passed a comprehensive bill, 68 votes, very comprehensive, speaker boehner didn't want us to vote on it. we've had a labor shortage here and turned immigration from farming to scientists and engineers. we need more people to do the work here. immigration is how we've handled that. we've got to deal with border security and that bill dealt with $25 billion investment in border security. and we ought to get together and solve this problem and you

know, i do think that president trump defunded a lot of the departments, according to president biden, and didn't really cooperate in the transition. that's a small part of a big problem and we've all got to get together. neil: i see where you're coming from congressman, but you seem to conflate immigration with illegal immigration. in this country through democratic and republican presidents alike, immigration has been uncommonly stable. when you talk about border security as well what would be the harm in at least completing the wall because many of the border agents with whom we've been chatting saying that's where a lot of these groups that are coming in, they're going through the open positions of the unfinished wall, that at least if you finished it and completed the-- because the funds were there, and just, you know, seal up

those holes and then get to some of the areas you rightly pointed out might be at the core of this. >> well, i think the wall is not an effective technology to deal with it. in san diego we've had a lot of people dig tunnels under the wall that we have here and it's impractical to try to do that across the border. i think there's much more effective monitoring tools. neil: you'd have to-- you're right about digging tunnels, but a fraction of the penetration you've seen elsewhere, that largely has been a success. >> most of the smuggling happens through the port of entry and i would certainly support upping our security and our investment there. i think we've done that in san diego as well. i guess the thing i would say is that, you're talking about spending 30 billion, 15, 30 billion whatever you want a tremendous amount of money on a physical structure and not dealing with the underlying problem, which is that people in these countries have no

economic prospects and fearful of crimes and the money we're putting those into those countries 300 to 400 million dollars. that's much more effective cost, much more-- >> but if it gets into the right hands, right, sir? i mean. >> absolutely. neil: that's the problem in the past under the democratic and republican administrations, getting it into the right hands. >> and i don't say it's easy, neil. i say that's the problem, the systemic problem we have to deal with at the source. so i think the wall is at best a, you know, it's a bandaid. it doesn't really solve the bigger problem which is what we did with mexico when we did nafta, the economy improved a lot in mexico, people were much more likely with that their home -- i think that's what vice-president harris is going to focus on. neil: thank you, i appreciate

you coming in. >> you're welcome. neil: i want you to turn your attention not to kentucky, but las vegas. it's back, baby and doesn't john tapper know it. the bar rescue who he is, the host is there and find out why. ♪ ♪i've got the brains you've got the looks♪ ♪let's make lots of money♪ ♪you've got the brawn♪ ♪i've got the brains♪ ♪let's make lots of♪ ♪uh uh uh♪ ♪oohhh there's a lot of opportunities♪

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you're reminding folks, not only vegas but across the country they still need our attention, they still need our business and they still need some help, don't they? >> they sure do. i've got to tell you, the

restaurant relief act has helped very much, neil. we're getting debt paid off. getting the dollars we need to move forward. our struggle now is employees. neil: yeah. you know, i remember early on, you're a big reason why that debt relief came through your visits here and you were saying, these guys through no-fault of their own have been decimated and that aid did come and glad it's bearing fruit. it's a good news, bad news thing. they can't find workers for a variety of reasons. but explain how bad it is? >> it's serious. something out of whack here. you think about the fact that our federal government said by july 4th we should be in a great place and yet they extended the unemployment benefits, enhanced unemployment benefits until september and we can't get our employees, neil. eighths crisis. imagine this, you go through 14 months, buy your food, clean up the place and put your marketing in place and ready to get back and now you can't get

your employees. it's a crisis situation, it's national, national chains are dealing with it as well as independent restaurants. we've got to get our people back to work, neil. neil: yeah, i was talking to the chipotle cfo the other day and for that national chain, it is an issue. i'm just wondering though, is it something that goes away in september when the benefits expire or is it just another issue that people who have, you know, not been working are just not keen on going to restaurants or working at bars or that sort of stuff. what do you think it is? >> i think that some people have changed careers for sure and when we do a statistical research, the cannabis industry is taking a lot of food and beverage employees, amazon is taking a lot of food and beverage employees. it's an industry issue, neil. we've got to get our people back. we can't operate seven days a week, we only have the employees to operate four or five days a week. even if we get to 100%

capacity, if we're losing two at seven days a week, wham-o, our capacity goes back down again. so, every time we make a step up, it seems like we're fighting to stay there and then we inch backwards again and that's what we're seeing with employees. neil: for years i've been a fan of your show. one they think i notice certainly you scare the hell out of those workers and those who are stuck in their ways. you really talk tough love, but how many resist you? how many in the end say, screw it, i'm not going to do what he says? >> you know, in the end, they resist me a lot more. a lot less than in the beginning certainly, neil. about 20% go back to their old ways and 80% don't. pre-pandemic a 70% success factor which i'm very proud of neil, when you consider their debt and creditors are knocking on their doors. they don't have the resources to move forward. i'm proud of the statistics that we've achieved with the

show. but this season, season eight is very, very different. we shot the entire season in las vegas. and las vegas had the highest unemployment during the pandemic and based on hospitality only, we've been decimated in las vegas. choosing las vegas to rescue this year made a lot of sense and of course, it's my hometown so it's very personal to me. >> you know, it's very hard to feel passionate and jazzed. these guys are grateful for reopening and the capacity and the rest, i don't know the latest in las vegas, but how do you keep them psyched? how, when they're facing daunting odds to say nothing of just reopening and expense or the problems associated with that, now not being able to find workers, it's hard to be chipper and a glass half full person. how do you coach them with that? >> in nevada we go 100% june 1st, it's a big deal for us.

there's light at theened of the tunnel. we're excited about it, seeing people on the street. you're right. covid has been a paralyzing fact upon people, neil. almost like they've been wounded. they don't walk as fast, they're not assertive, they're reserved about their future. and it's had a psychological impact. this season is much more motivation and helping them move forward rather than pushing them to move forward. a quick story, neil. in this season of bar rescue, we've talked the past year, year and a half how the pandemic decimated the industry. and this season shows how it's decimated the industry. and one owner lost his house three days before we got there. three days. he has four young children under 10 years old sleeping on a wooden floor above the restaurant, neil. they have nothing. so, these are the kind of stories we're dealing with about, you know, again we have

talked about how the restaurant industry is decimated. this industry shows us how the people of the restaurant industry have been decimated by this and it's a difficult season emotionally. you're going to see, neil. i crew a few times during this season and i can't help myself, it's very intense. neil: you're very intense, i don't want to be on the wrong side of you man, oh, man, you've done a lot of good for a lot of people. john tapper, kicking the season off in las vegas is the start. what a way to kick things off. be safe and be well. this is may day after all, not just the start of the kentucky derby this year, that's resuming, but protests around the world. this is the day we recognize labor and it's paris in one thing, in berlin it's quite another, but rally, the plans to fight and the growing ways to cutting back on government speck and guarantees for a lot

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>> we are just getting word now of that indirect talks between iran and the united states are expected to resume on that iran nuclear deal maybe as soon as friday. reuters is quoting russia's ambassador to the u.n. who told

reporters after a meeting that the remaining parties would like to continue and start talks more to the point, the third round of talks as soon as this friday by definition, that would seem to extend to the united states. if we get anything more on that, of course, we'll keep you posted. in the meantime keeping you posted on pretty violent attacks on police officers over the last week, the timing and a lot of folks following this back and forth closely. lucas tomlinson with more. >> in recent days a number of attacks against police officers, including two sheriff's deputies, ambushed and shot and killed in north carolina. protest have continued elsewhere where judges refused to release the body cam future and law enforcement say that he hit the police officer with his car before they opened fire. and tim scott with the g.o.p.

rebuttal. i wrote a bill and after the deaths of george floyd and my democratic colleagues blocked it. >> the floyd family sounded hopeful. >> we believe that everybody is committed. we are optimistic that as president biden encouraged us to try to have this george floyd act passed before may 25th, the one year anniversary of the killing of george floyd. >> even on the very difficult subject like police reform, gun safety, immigration, bipartisan compromise, strong bipartisan compromise, strong legislation coming out of bipartisan compromise is never out of

reach. >> congressman clyburn defended the police after some in his party called for defunding the police and talked about race in america. >> and electing barack obama and kamala harris. >> some in the country think otherwise. neil: thank you very much. we're fortunately to have congressman clyburn to talk about this, and some say they don't believe it's a racist country, but you are concerned about it. what, could you explain? >> well, thank you very much for having me, neil. please for a momentment in the 1830's, 1835, 1836, wrote about this country and the work he

called democracy in america. and it's interesting to me, to those who summed up in this one line. america is not great because it is more enlightened than any other nation, but rather, because it has always been able to repair its faults. he wrote that during slavery. nothing can be less enlightening than slavery, yet, in 1863 abraham lincoln moved to correct that fault. now, we have some faults in our society today and there's some faults within the institutions that we all rely upon. law enforcement is one of them. let's correct the faults. this whole notion about, this argument that america is now a racist nation, nobody ever said that.

nobody ever said that. we never called for defunding the police. somebody put that slogan into the process. i want to see in policemen and better recruitment and better people in police departments and so they can get better and they can get better people. that's what we're all about. so i'm a little sick and tired of this argument that we keep going off in different directions. what's my colleague-- >> but to be fair, congressman, to be fair, a lot of this began with the discussion over systemic racism and whether that's the same as calling a country racist. i get what you're getting at, but i think that what senator tim scott was getting in trouble for was for simply saying what the left is doing is fighting bigotry with bigotry and they've exposed their hypocrisy and their true

motivation. it has nothing to do with ending prejudice. what did you think of that? >> look, not much. i used to teach this stuff. i've studied all of my life and i still study it. that's not what we progressives are saying. we progressives are saying that it's time for us to own up to the fact that we've got problems. take what mitch mcconnell just did writing about the 1619 process. who is unaware that blacks were brought into this country in 1619? for what purpose? to be enslaved and they were enslaved for the next 244 years. to ignore that is to be ignorant about history and ignorant about the facts. so, let's be factual about this. i want every one of my children and grandchildren to know what slavery was all about. if you don't learn the lessons of history, you're bound to

repeat them. thank you, i wish people would spend time learning our history so that we'll know what we should do to hold onto what's good and get rid of what's bad. that's what-- >> fair enough, but the 1619 date becomes the new date at which you start the beginning of america and those who want that project as it's called to look at america through that prism and the start of the country which we tended to look at through the events on july 4th, 1776 signing of the declaration of independence should in fact go back to 1619 the start of slavery. do you agree with that approach that everything should be seen and the historic moves that were made in this country through that start date? >> i don't know who used that. i don't know use that as a start date. i know people who use 1492 as a

start date. both of them are wrong. native americans have been here forever. that's-- >> that's a key part. that's a key part of this measure, you know, that that would become the starting point here. if they wanted to force that issue and you say you don't think that's the case, would that be a mistake in your eyes, congressman? >> that is a mistake because that's not the case. the case is 1619 was the start date for black folks in america. that's when my forebearers were brought here enslaved against their will, that started in 1619 that's not the start date of america. neil: but you could include it in the history of this country, i mean, you don't want to ignore that, i understand your point and it's quite sound, but you wouldn't be scrapping one in favor of the year to teach all of this as part of the school curriculum? >> that's what they're trying to do.

when i was being taught history i was not taught that. i with as not taught that. and when i started teaching history, i told all of my students, i don't want you bringing dates to me. there are only two dates i want you to ever think about. 1066 and i don't want the other things to be taught because they're not relevant. columbus didn't discover america, america was here all the time. columbus was lost. and let this be clear about what the real history is. so, you don't get through it by ignoring it, pretend it didn't exist. no, it did exist. slavery existed. jim crow existed. and the supreme court of united states in 1954 decided to repair that, thank you once again for recognizing what this

country is all about, not about being perfect, but when you see a fault, repair it. we've got a fault today in our law enforcement. let's repair it. there's a fault today with 47 states now coming out with these voter suppression laws. come on, united states of america, let's repair that. let's don't elect people back into that kind of stuff and you know what that stuff is. neil: congressman, thank you very, very much. a lot of the time americans look at christopher columbus he didn't get lost simply he didn't ask for directions, congressman. >> i wish i was around that time to help him. [laughter] >> congressman, thank you very, very much. be well, be safe this weekend. we have a lot more coming up after this. we're following the may day protests around the world, as well in paris and berlin throughout europe. the unions have a good friend

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forecast of wind and it clears up tomorrow and that's when they're scheduled to make that landing along the east coast. a little bit of wind so we'll wait and see if this is good enough for them to get back and better than the windy conditions we're seeing today. otherwise we're tracking a lot of heavy rain across portions of texas and that lingers taking you in. we've seen downpours here for the last 24 hours. we've got an area from corpus christi to san antonio and houston and they're looking at flood watches as the rain falls on this saturday. in the middle of the country, boy, warm and nice, 75 degrees, going to push up to 80 in some locations so it's going to be a warm one and then if you're a horse racing fan, a beautiful day as the baby would say in the song, a masterpiece by the time it's race time, sunny, clear, dry, a nice one out there at churchill downs.

neil: adam, thank you very much, my friend. i want to take you to berlin, i don't know how the actual weather is, but the political weather is nasty. these are protests, may day protests and recognizing the labor movements across the world. ironically there, they feel that government is abandoning them just as in this country it seems that governors and government is embracing them. stay with us.

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company, off the charts. we've seen it with amazon, seen it with apple, with tesla and with alphabet. what's interesting about that, even in the face of all of this, the wealth grows, of the folks who run those companies are putting their money to space, right? if you think of about what jeff bezos is doing, who is going to be turning control day-to-day of amazon, and elon musk with spacex and what have you. they've poured a not in private initiatives in partnership with the united states government, but it's providing great dreams and opportunities and hope for the u.s. when it comes to replanting its flag on the moon to say nothing about what we've already been doing on mars. back with dan, adam, and if you think about it, if not for these guys and their ample

resources we might not be doing a lot of what we're doing as we reclaim space. what do you think? >> well, i think it's absolutely right. three words you said there, neil, guys, dreams and ample resources, i guess that's four words. bezos and musk have been dreaming about this since they were boys? would that have been if they wouldn't have been selling? i doubt it. and it's a great thing they're able to put their many billions of dollars to the exciting things. as a society we probably wouldn't have been the wherewithal. neil: and a lot of these guys are targeted with the tax proposals and most of the technology ceo's have already said they're on board with paying higher taxes themselves and their companies paying higher taxes, if they're okay

with it, should you be okay with it? . well, if they want to pay more tax. >> sorry. >> dan first. >> if they want to pay more tax, neil, i mean, i'm not going to argue with that. i certainly don't want to have to pay more tax and i think a lot of other people don't want to do that, but i think on this topic with elon musk and jeff bezos competing against each other, it's so epic. you know, it's a battle star galactica. we used to know the names of astronauts. it hard to name an astronaut now. so, now the focus is on-- >> you're right. >> who are the people that are backing this, that are really making things happen? i think it's terrific and let's put it this way, neil, if we

can do some space travel. think of the advantage, you weigh less in space. neil: there is that. there is that. danielle, what do you make of the fact that these guys are providing this opportunity? that says something about capitalism. >> it does say something. it says something really great about capitalism, neil. and again, this is pulling the u.s. government into a really amazing endeavor. we haven't been able to figure out education reform for years in this country, but you remember 2017 they came out with the movie hidden figures. that whole era in u.s. history, young people were just electrified. they wanted to get into science, technology, math, all-- some of the best learning home grown brilliant people that we've had that we've created, not imported into the universities we've home grown in america and that came out of the original space race and just think how wonderfully this

could reignite young people who want to be educated. neil: it's happening as we speak and i'm rudely jumping on you because we're running out of time. running out of time, but the space race goes on. the kentucky derby later on. fox news continues right now.

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