way. i will see you next saturday night. ♪♪ mark: hello america, i'm mark living in this is "life, liberty and levin". we have a great guest, senator josh hawley. i want you to get to know senator holly and he's it has a fantastic book, the tyranny a big tech. it's very important book coming out this coming week and the tyranny a big tech, senator holly thank you for joining us before we get io the book and we will. how would you describe yourself

politically? >> thank you for having meat market. great to be with you. i would say of a conservative and that is the easiest description. i'm a constitutional lawyer by background and i was a religious liberty verse a moment lawyer and attorney general of the state of missouri so as prosecutor i have a background in as a prosecutor as well so for all those reasons i believe in our constitution and consider myself a constitutionalist. first and foremost and i consider myself a populist. i think there is a rich, rich tradition that is rooted in our constitution, a saying that it is normal everyday americans who are the best citizens, normal everyday americans who ought to run this country and ought to run the government and i think what we are fighting for today is to make sure that it is normal everyday americans who have a say in the government and have control over their government and that's a lot of what we're seeing the big tech. big tech wants to run this country and we can't let them. mark: now, the left likes to say there populist to and yet they

like centralized overarching ubiquitous government. just briefly, if you can, describe the difference between your idea of populism and their idea of populism. >> you put it well. the left's idea of populism is to claim to speak in favor of the people but, in fact, centralize power in the government and in big business that they can control and ally with. this is one of the interesting features in our era. we see these woke corporations, these mega corporations that are now increasingly allied with the left and they want to project themselves into the politics and they want to project their power into politics and the left is great with that. they loved centralized power, whether in the economy or centralized in government, they want our lives to be run by a handful of people in washington, in wall street and they want those people all to work together and tell us what we are supposed to do with our lives. i think as conservatives and conservative populist we say no, no, who knows best about their

own lives? the american people do. who knows best about how to raise kids? families do. who knows how to make decisions about the future? individuals do. when i think about conservative populism it's a populism of the megan framers and of our founders where our competition begins with we, the people. the people should be in charge of the government. who should be in charge about making dishes and's a lot of families? ourselves, our parents, we as parents and as citizens so that is the big difference between left and right. left believes in the power of government and centralized authority of power and experts. the left love experts and they think they are the experts. they want to have government by experts and they want to have economy by experts. we believe in the value, the dignity and the wisdom of normal, everyday working americans and we think they ought to run their lives. mark: we saw where the experts goddess shutdowns and nursing of problems and all the rest of it but senator hawley, i want to

talk to you about january 6. there has been a concerted effort to smear you that somehow you were involved in instigating incitement to an insurrection. you are a constitutionalist, as you point out, and of course, what happens after all these electorates come together and they cast their votes and it goes to the archivist and he or she sends it to congress to count where people can raise questions. in fact, that is the whole point of the process. it's not a rubber stamp process and others have done the same thing. why don't you explain to the iraqi people, without interruption, what you did, what you were trying to do and why it was constitutional. >> thank you, mark. here is the thing. i believe in election integrity and i believe we need to have a discussion in this country about election integrity and what we see the left doing now, again with using these big corporations to try to bully states like georgia and to try to bully states like my own, the

state of missouri, where we have voter id for instance. democrats want to do in concert with the big corporations is get rid of our election integrity laws. they want to take over our elections and centralize that power in washington dc so what i said i generate six is this, i think we should have a debate about election integrity in this country and a debate is what i asked for. under the laws of the united states during the election certification process a senator or house member can raise an objection of any state, all the states ballots are counted there as you said in a senator or house member if there are two together raise an objection to any state it triggers a debate in both houses of congress and that is what i said before generate six that i would do with regard to the state of pennsylvania. you have a state of pennsylvania the didn't follow its own constitution in the way that it did its balloting back in the november election. you had a supreme court in pennsylvania that when they run away partisan supreme court that intervened in the election that intervened in the counting of

ballots and even our own supreme for justice clarence thomas of the u.s. supreme court said that what happened in pennsylvania was something he thought the u.s. supreme court should be looking at in and reviewing and i agree with that which is why i objected to the state of pennsylvania to try to force a debate in the united states senate. you pointed out, mark, this is something the law permits and you bet it does but the democrats have done it in three of the last presidential elections every time a republican his loss they have objected to 11 different states which is the right to do under the law. you can trigger debate doing that and i objected to pennsylvania and i think we need to have a debate on election integrity. i think we need to have one out on election integrity in this country. i'm certainly not going to apologize for that. mark: and you shouldn't. what you were talking about is article two of section one, clause two for the state legislators are responsible for setting the election system in every state.

in pennsylvania, my home state, what took place was the supreme court of pennsylvania which is a five-two democrat elected court was quite radical like the court was in florida in 2000 and they change the election laws and the governor changed the election laws in the secretary of state changed the election laws, all statewide elected democrats, you had a republican legislator and so they did not change those election laws to help donald trump and they did not change those election laws to help her publicans but it was a power grab and so it was raised with united states up in court and i don't know what happened but it looked like three justices wanted to take it up and the other six did not want to take it up and it was a perfectly legitimate challenge brought to the united states up in court where it was to be resolved in an election case that is ultimately, not even the subbing court but the united states congress that resolves it under our constitution system and the idea that you raise it and then they claim that you incited an insurrection is really from a

party that unconstitutionally impeached president twice and sought to remove him from office with a criminal investigation is pretty precious. i'm glad you had an opportunity to speak to that and i want to talk about your book which is really quite fabulous. the tyranny of big tech. let's start this way. you begin your book by saying hey look conservatives, we never like monopolies and we did not like monopolies during the industrial revolution slightly thereafter and we should not like them now. they smother liberty, they smother individual alabi so go ahead and claim what you mean. >> you know, our framers had it right. mark, you look to our founders and they hated monopoly. they were deeply, deeply suspicious of it and the associated it with aristocracy. you know what happens when you get concentrate a power that means that the experts, the self-appointed experts try to run the show room of the elites try to tell everybody else what to do and of course in their day that meant the monarchy but it

also meant the aristocrats so that the framers enacted all these laws limiting the monopoly forum, limiting monopoly power and states can only grant monopolies with very, very few instances at the time of the amerian pounding and our whole constitution is meant to disperse power. so it doesn't gather if anyone set of hands so no one is small group of people become so powerful that they could run the country and that is what madison called faction, another word for aristocracy. monopoly is a part of that in our founders did not want monopoly power anywhere. fast-forward to the industrial revolution and we see monopolies growing up in the economic sector, the railroads, u.s. steel and the monopolies tried to take over the government and they tried to project their power into the political sphere and override the will of the people and what we said then a century ago and by we i mean conservatives and republicans they said we will not stand for it and we will not be told by a group of business people or

anybody, no matter who it is, no small group, no group of self-appointed experts will run this country and so we enacted new laws that said we will continue that founding tradition omma know monopoly and we will break them up. here we are today my argument is we need to recover the tradition of the american founders and we need to recover the tradition of the republican from a century ago and say we believe in liberty, not monopoly and we are not going to allow a small group of experts will corporations to run this country. mark: in the case of big tech they were given an advantage by the federal government. it is not like they really believe in free-market capitalism so what kind of advantage for the given? >> they've been subsidized from day one, mark. they were given a huge immunity blanket. most media corporations publishing houses or any sort of platform, media platform, speech platform is subject to lawsuits four liable for defamation and

for other tort suits in court and that's an important check. if someone says something untrue about you you can go to court and if someone takes what you say and edited and publishes it under your name without your approval you can go to court. these tech platforms have been effectively immune from suit in a vast majority of cases since the 1990s. who gave them that special privilege? federal government. to your point about the free market the free market hasn't really worked when it comes to big tech because the government has put a big thumb on the scale in favor of these tech platforms and that is how facebook and that is how google and that is how twitter got so huge. they were able to take our information from us without our consent and they were able to track us all around the web and they are able to now censor us and to censor our comments and to censor our opinions and to censor the speech of the sitting president of the united states as they did with donald trump. no legal accountability. can't sue them.

can't take them to court. can't do anything about it. that is because the federal government has given them these special privileges and this is why we see this monopoly power from big tech. it is just what you would expect of government interference that has made big tech big and that is why, i say, it's time to break them up in time to get real competition and it's time to get power back to the people. mark: when we come back, my question to you will be —- if we will defend free speech and end censorship and stop big tech from getting involved in politics with these massive contributions, if you will, and you are right about this in your fantastic book, how exactly do we even convince republicans to do it? and that will be the question when we return is it, great book, tyranny a big tech. we'll be right back. do things a little differently. hey, i'll take one, please!

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come forward and how they try to silence them so president trump gives republicans an opportunity to address this problem with this section 230 which is the section of which you speak and they override his veto and they leave the charge and is it because these people have been around too long and do they not understand the big tech is supporting their opponents? what is this all about? >> i think a lot of folks in washington, and that unfortunately includes a lot of people who call themselves conservatives, don't really understand just how powerful big tech is although i tell you what, mark, after this last election when big tech worked together to sing will handily repress and suppress that hunter biden story and then after they went on to d platform president trump and d platform numerous other conservatives and shut down speech and, if you don't understand the power of big tech now, then you never will but to your point i just think that for

so long many conservatives and republicans just said well, certainly tech is not that powerful and they've also said that if it is the result of the free market than it must be okay and of course this is not the result of the free market but monopoly is almost never the result of the free market. again, our founders are right about this. they said anytime get concentrated power usually means government has interfered. considered a power, monopoly, aristocracy that is a political choice. that is the result of policy and exactly what we have here. part of what we've got to do and those of us who are saying that we got to break up the power of these tech companies and the power of these woke capitalists and these monopolies and we got to explain government has interfered time and time again to help these people get big, get strong, get powerful and now they are suppressing conservative voices and now they're trying to run our economy and to run our government and they will do all of that if we let them. mark: you know, senator, i see this and this is even worse than

standard oil and other companies returned to the last century. these companies are impinging on our unalienable rights today, freedom of speech goes right to the core of republican and right to the core of individual liberty. the first thing tyrants do around the world is they shut down speech and now you have surrogates for the democrat party in the left doing exactly this. as you point out in your book, they sucked us on these platforms and use our data and we build businesses and communities and networks on it and now they seize upon us and they sick themselves honest and they give us scarlet letters and they censor us and they suspend us, they banas and they don't do it to the left, as much clearly, as they do it to conservatives and they made donald trump, they think they have made donald trump a non- entity. as you pointed out in your book, we have never seen a power like this, have we ever?

>> no. that's right. we haven't. if you look back a century ago the biggest monopolies in our country's history, until now, the railroads, standard oil you pointed out, u.s. steel, those companies, yeah, they were powerful and had a lot of control over our economy and a lot of control over wages but they cannot control speech and they could not control news and they cannot control what we read or what we say to each other and they cannot control a political speech but these companies can and big tech sure can. google and facebook and twitter, they absolutely can and they want to and they are doing it actively and again this last year really brought that home and you look at that hunter biden story a series of stories that the new york post reporting about his laptop and about his investigation and the federal investigation into the bidens and it turns out it's true and yet all these companies get together and in the —- your member how it happened, in the space of little minutes, google and twitter decided they will not allow the story to be posted

on their platforms which is effectively same for millions of americans get their news from facebook and from google they are saying they will never read it and be able to see it and those of us who wanted to share it or comment on it, not allowed to do so. it was an incredible intervention in our election right at the height of the presidential election and they meant to do it, they did not accidentally do it. they meant to do it. they want to have this power and that's why we have to stand up to them. either the corporations will be in control or either these woke experts will be in control or the people are. it is one or the other, and we got to make sure it's the people. mark: the book is "the tyranny of big tech" and almost did not get published but it is out there now and if you want to get it from any major bookstore or amazon.com and it will be preorder now and on sale earlier this week. senator, i watch these big tech

companies and they are very concerned about people who disagree with the establishment or disagree with the democrat party. if you post a comment that disagrees with doctor anthony fauci you are likely to get youm stanford or an expert from oxford or an expert from meal or johns hopkins, if your viewpoint does not comport with the government stated viewpoint out of the federal bureaucracy you're likely to pay a price and they say they have these third parties who help review these things and these third parties are hacks. they are not objective people and so we have this massive censorship machine going on and then you have little parlor trying to start up and they all collude and they all get together as if they are all on the phone with each other and they junk and cut them off and don't make their sales available or take them off their store or the platform and if parlor does not come back and say okay, apple, what do you want me to do an apple says you will do this,

this, this and this and you will not come back. if this doesn't rob americans at the wrong way, i don't think anything will, even putting aside monopoly and business who are these bullies, these liberal, if not left-wing bullies to be telling everybody else how to conduct their business? it is anti- american and that is the bottom line, isn't it? >> it is the bottom line. it's anti- american, anti- free-speech, anti- first amendment and the reason that the left is cheering them on, mark, and make no mistake they are cheering them on. you hear the democrats talk about these companies but they love the power that these companies have. they love it. they love the power over speech that facebook and twitter have and they want them to do more. the left wants facebook to censor more and they want twitter to censor more and they want google to censor more so there is a strong alliance between the left wing in this country and the megacorporations and here is part of the reason for that is that the left can achieve what these companies,

what they can never do with government because the first amendment would stand in the way, thank goodness, if it were government that were explicitly trying to censor us and tell us what we could say but when they use or when the left uses these mega monopolies to do it well then it is f is fine and that'sy they go and say the first moment does not apply to facebook or the first amendment does not apply to google so censor away and they want to combine the power of government and the power of these corporations and boy, that's dangerous for free speech. we've not even talked about the dangers of competition and we got huge danger to competition and innovation and to think that we conservatives, free-market people believe in but to speech and our basic democratic principle's, i mean, think of it this way, if the american people can't decide, if we can't decide what we want to read or not and if we can't decide what kind of news we want to see and if we can't talk about it together and if i'm not allowed to share what i want to share in terms of i thank you ought to read this news story or comment on this and if this some censor out there who can affect effectively

shut me down anytime express a contrary view how was her democracy going to survive? i think that is the challenge we face are now. mark: the book is "the tyranny of big tech" and we have a lot more to cover. we'll be right back. let's make ♪ ♪you've got the brawn♪ ♪i've got the brains♪ ♪let's make lots of♪ ♪uh uh uh♪ ♪oohhh there's a lot of opportunities♪ with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700. saving is easy when you're in good hands. allstate click or call to switch today. >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. allstate this couple loves camping adventures and their suv is always there with them. so when their windshield got a chip, they wanted it fixed fast. they drove to safelite autoglass for a guaranteed, same-day, in-shop repair. we repaired the chip before it could crack.

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>> hello and welcome to fox news live. authorities say two people are dead after a vote that may have been part of the human smuggling operation capsized in southern

california. it happened just up the coast of san diego this morning. the fire department says 27 people were taken to the hospitals with varying degrees of injuries. officials believe everyone on board was accounted for but crews continue to search for other possible survivors. in the meantime new details are emerging from saturday's deadly shooting in green bay, wisconsin which left three people dead including the gunman. police are saying the shooter was after a specific victim but upon realizing that person was not at the casino that night the shooter then opened fire on coworkers and friends of the target. law enforcement also say they are still in the early stages of their investigation. i'm julian, now back to "life, liberty and levin". have a good night. mark: will come back senator hawley, the biden administration and the democrats in congress

are completely out of control, massively increasing the size of government and we never seen anything like this in our history. massive deficit spending, massive use of law enforcement in ways that concern me enormously, the pushing critical race theory, critical gender theory, the borders are wide open by design and you see so many of our institutions being devoured by this radical agenda and you see so many people being crushed or closed down an institution as a result of that radical agenda and yet, we thought, i believe, that the social sites that big tech would be the answer to some of this. you have big media and here you have this brand-new technology where people can communicate and challenge big media and challenge the iron fist of centralized government and here we have elections where they —- we have in common contributions

to the party that supports the state. let me ask you this question, i really do view these as zuckerberg is spreading around hundreds of millions of dollars to bring out the democrat vote in democratic strongholds and you have them, as you said, shutting down the hundred biden story and other stories too and they are trying to intimidate even if they don't whack you, the trying to intimidate people against giving their opinion and so forth and they're not talking about klansmen or neo- and a cis but marxists are okay but you get the point but the federal election commission and the sec and the antitrust so what are they doing? are they sitting on their hands? >> yeah, they have been sitting on their hands. that is part of the problem. the democrats are happy once again to have these big companies out there doing their bidding and so as long as they do their bidding and so long as facebook continues to censor conservatives and to promote democrats than they are basically fine with it and they will be content to slap facebook

on the wrist every now and again just to make sure that facebook understands the left will bring the hammer down on them if they don't do what they want but what these companies have done in the run-up to the last election, yet they suppress those new stories and i think that's contribution to and i asked the federal election commission to investigate for their facebook and twitter that basically have contributed to the biden campaign by suppressing four days and weeks on end the hunter biden story but we also saw these big corporations and not just the big tech ones but we saw these big corporations work together to try to change our election laws in the months before the last election. and now they boast about it and say we were saving democracy. they were going around state-by-state trying to get election laws changed in state after state and the way they thought would favor democrat candidates and now of course, you got the same corporations were trying to bully states like georgia and many other states across the country who want to enact election integrity measures. it's really unbelievable but, in

a way, it's predictable because, once again, when you allow monopoly power to gather up then every time it happened in our history, every time the people who have the power try to use it to push their own agenda and try to install their own politics and that is what the left is doing right now. they are using this monopoly power to try to run over us and run over the iraqi people and we can't allow it to happen. mark: you see their corporatists, not capitalists but you see the corporatists the crony capitalists led by big tech but certainly you are right, clearly not just big tech but all bragging and all signing petitions and so forth and you see what is happening with big government getting bigger than anything we could have imagined and in fact they are attacking capitalism more than a communist chinese attack capitalism and it's an amazing thing. then you have these federal agencies that aren't doing their job and not even taking a look at what these big corporations are doing and wanting them to do

and you have said it's time for new politics and time for a new republic and party and it is time for new politics so what do you have in mind? >> for one thing it is time to restore competition in our markets and you made the great point a second to go about corporatism verse capitalism and capitalism means free market. it means free competition. it means you can start a business and have a shot and it means that if you are a worker you can get a fair wage and go out there and compete on a playing field with other people and you can use your talent to the best of your ability and get compensated for it and that is capitalism and that is not what the companies want to. they want corporatism which is where they get the handouts from government and they get the special deals with government and get to set our trade policy, by the way, which means they benefit and no one else does and they get there sweetheart deals all around the world and they don't pay taxes in this country and they don't invest in this country but yet they get the goodies from taxpayers and that is what the big corporations led by big tech, that is what they want and i think as republicans we need to say enough of that. we are not going to be ordered

around by these corporatists anymore and we will not let them tell us that this is what the free market is. this isn't a free market. we need to get back to free, robust competition and we need to cut these monopolies down the size and we need to get power back in the hands of the american people and that's what i mean by a new politics. but the people back in control and give working people in this country a say in a voice again in the way that you do that is you take power away from these folks who have a masted by making them play by the same rules as everybody else and let's have good old-fashioned competition. mark: when we come back, my question to you is these corporatists, they do have a big friend called communist china. what will we do about that? the book is "the tyranny of big tech", we'll be right back. and tackle four things at once. so when her car got hit, she didn't worry. she simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said...

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♪♪ mark: senator josh hawley, the book is "the tyranny of big tech" but first of all, the

tyranny of big tech, are you getting pushed back yet and the next day or two it's coming out and are you getting pushback from big tech or the supporters yet? >> yes, absolutely. we've seen it going back to january peered as you referenced, mark, the they tried to cancel this book and it was a twitter campaign and a twitter petition, i believe or a petition started on twitter that said corporate publisher you got to shut this down and cancel this thing and i'm grateful there are still independent businesses out there, independent publishing houses who are willing to say we will not be canceled but we believe in free speech but big tech has been trying to shut me off and to shut me up to shut me down for literally years now. this book is the latest example. i refuse to be canceled. i refuse to bow down to them i refused to bow to the woke mob and i'm certainly not starting now. mark: well, maybe they are getting technical information from the communist chinese who

they seem to like. the attack made a lot of money over there and apple makes a lot of money over there and these corporatists make a lot of money over there so they are busy signing petitions here about the georgia legislator and voter reform laws that are legitimate laws while the communist are rounding up to and a half million muslims in their concentration camps every week. some do but a lot do, to some of these corporatists that completely lack of conscience? how do you do business with companies or countries that have risen camps and sterilization assembly lines and rape and slaughtering people, how do you even think about doing business with a country like that? >> i think it is because these corporate is believe in big tech believe that what is good for them is moral and what is good for them is right and if they want to do and must be the right thing. that's the same basis they tell us they know best about how to run this country. whatever their views are are

absolutely right in legitimate and if you disagree you are backwards and retrograde and you're a bigot and you fill in whatever name you want and that is their view of things but you are absolutely right about china. big tech benefits big time from china, apple produces many, many of its component parts and goods over there in china and has good to go supply chains in china and why? it is cheap for them because it's profitable for them. they're willing to sell out american labor in order to go over and take advantage of exploited labor. sometimes, in some cases, outright slave labor and look at google and facebook, they both worked overtime to try to get into china and the both google and facebook were willing to censor their speech, censor american speech, censor the news at the behest of the chinese government if the government in beijing would allow them to come into china and operate there. it's unbelievable but it goes to show you what they really care about at the end of the day is their own power. these companies want power and

want to tell us in america what we can say and do while they are building their power around the globe. mark: it is so shocking to me what is going on a common as china and they are our enemy. they are not our adversary but trying to overtake us. they're trying to cut off significant geopolitical areas to us, military areas to us and withhold materials from us and they made it abundantly clear that they intend to jump over us in every respect possible and they are threatening us in the south china sea and they've destroyed hong kong and now they have their eyes on taiwan and these companies just keep playing along, rolling along and they are so unpatriotic, not all of them but the ones that are doing it are unpatriotic. i think about world war ii and i think about these fascist, marxist resumes in the past and companies would never do business with them. what has changed? what has changed in 70, 80 years ago and what is going on today do you think?

>> well, i think the companies don't see themselves any longer as american companies. they don't really believe in america. they are globalists. they believe we should have a global order and they believe in the global economic order and they want to run whatever that means. they want to be in charge of this global agenda and global world and that is what they are most committed to. if you look at facebook and google, they are nominally based in the united states but they will tell you they see themselves as global citizens. their agenda is to have global influence and global power and at the end of the day, we got to say to them listen, to your point, china is not our friend. china is our enemy and they need to pick a side. either you will be with the united states, these committees, or they will be with china and i think they will beat with american democracy and allow the people to rule or they will continue to try this heavy-handed authoritarianism at home which is really what they are doing with their suppression speech, with their suppression of political viewpoints that they don't like and that's where we got to stand up to them. mark: the book is "the tyranny

of big tech" and you can get it anywhere, amazon.com and on tuesday it will be in every major retail store in america. we'll be right back. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good

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♪♪ mark: we are with senator josh

hawley, "the tyranny of big tech" is the book and it's a great book, i hope you go grab a copy. senator, you talk in your book about what we the people can do. what are some of the things we, the people can do? >> number one, we can't allow big tech to tyrannize our homes. i'm a husband and father of fruit three small children and i think one of the most important things parents can do is take control of those platforms and those phones and those computers and those tablets in your homes and turned them off. don't let your kids be on them all the time and don't stay on them yourself all the time. take back control of your life so that not every piece of your life is involved with or on social media or these tech platforms. the more we live our lives off these devices and off the platforms the less control they have over us number one. number two, we got to break them up. at the end of the date these are monopolies and we have to break them up and this is what we need to do together politically. we got to insist that we go after these big companies and break them up, restore

competition and until we get real competition, mark, back in our market until we break up their power over our speech and over our lives and over our kids we will be in danger and american democracy is going to be in danger so we got to take back our family life and take back our daily lives and say you can't run my life and i will not live my whole life online but we've also got to go after them and say we are going to make you play by the rules, free and fair competition, break them up. mark: and there are other alternatives out there, there are smaller platforms. you will not necessarily have 100 million or 3 billion people out there but you can contribute to their growth and contribute to their support by searching them out on the internet and so forth, oddly enough. i do think you're right, this is a role for government because when people are attacking our fundamental liberties and that is the bottom line here. free speech really, freedom of association if you consider

these platforms having duped us on these platforms, stealing our data, becoming billionaires and using our data, attracting us, providing that information to god knows whom, and then treating us like we are in third grade and giving us scarlet letters and censoring us and suspending us and banning a president of the united states, former president of the united states as if to completely dehumanize him, who the hell do these people think they are? when i watch them testify, senator, i am saying who are these nerds? how did they get this power? there are billions and billions of dollars worth and they have all this power and we gave it to them. isn't that your point? >> that is my point. we did give it to them and we got to take it back. that's what we got to do. we got to take back the power for the america people and for our constitution. mark: the tyranny of big tech, a gutsy book and a very important book, substantively and i hope you folks will get your copy and it's at amazon.com and any major

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donald trump. we had a secure border thanks to donald trump. we had cheap energy thanks to donald trump. we low-inflation thanks to donald trump. he was promilitary, pro- law enforcement, profamily, pro- american worker and what else? he understood that america isn't made up of systemically racist people in america is made up of systemically fabulous people. men and women of all backgrounds and diversity and tens of millions of people all around the world who want to join us. donald trump understands the private sector and this may be where we get invention and growth and opportunities and jobs and it comes from we, the people, not from them, the government. i got to thinking and donald trump's first year of business, first year of business he had more business and private sector experience than joe biden, nancy pelosi, kamala harris and chuck

schumer all combined. they have no private sector experience, not even, nowhere. you listen to the joe biden speech and you got to come to hate yourself, hate your fellow man but for government, more programs, were spending, more debt, more reduced regional wealth, more class warfare, more oppressed and oppressor but for government we are a very bad people and yet, you listen to joe biden and he's a bit schizophrenic and the one hand he says you are systemic they racist but on the other hand he says we, the people can do these things. we can do these things. his speech was written by a fifth-grader, i think. and not a very intelligent one, as a matter of fact. ladies and gentlemen, we are facing something we never faced before and certainly not at this level and that since the civil war. that is the enemy within. people who hate this country. you do not hear a single inspiring thing from joe biden about the american people and

about our history and about our constitution and about our unalienable rights the words individual liberty never passed his lips, private property rightsworship, free-market capitalism never. not once. why? because the man has been in washington 50 years and the most of the people jumping up like clapping seals on the democratic side have been washington forever for the most part two. the fact of the matter is it is not just domestic but it's international. donald trump, i was thinking the first 100 days, joe biden, donald trump abraham accords, all the peas that was breaking out of the middle east, completely undermined by joe biden. joe biden is giving aid and comfort to the regime and to ron that wants nuclear missiles that can aim and hit our country. joe biden who has backed off on the communist chinese, he is a pushover as far as they are concerned. one enemy after the other, they are the ones were happy with joe

biden's first 100 days. not me. not if you love this country, not if you believe in our capitalist system and in the american people. to see you next time on "life, liberty and levin". steve: good evening and welcome to the next revolution but i'm steve hilton and this is the home of positive populism, pro- america, profamily and pro- america. look at what we see in the past few weeks. age 13 is shot and killed in chicago, mckay o'brien, 816 shot and killed in columbus, ohio, anthony thompson, 17, shot and killed in knoxville, tennessee. these terrible stories have been used as fodder for the only debate the left seems to want these days, about race. we need to stop and think about what we are really seen. there is no conceivable reason for a 13 -year-old to