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spectrum and represented reagan called the shining city on the hill. democratic party rule has been unchecked and by the way, has not been checked in a decade and the results are palpable in the state's taxes are now beyond oppressive, especially to those struggling to get by income tax, could be high as 12% and sales tax over 7% and corporate taxes which, course, they don't pay taxes and they try as hard as they can to pass it on to we the people and that's hovering around 10% in the state and get

this, california's gas tax a whopping 50 cents per gallon among the highest in the nation. and meanwhile massive restrictions on development, instruction is cost home prices in the state to skyrocket and as a result homelessness is now rampant all throughout the state and the problems are real and thousands upon thousands of tents, makeshift shelters line very busy streets and los angeles, san francisco, other major cities in the state in the situation is dire. we have shown you ourselves and sent our cameras to both los angeles and san francisco and to make matters worse california is hemorrhaging jobs. the state of california now has the third highest unemployment rate in the country and the highest number of unemployed residences in the last year alone tesla ceo elon musk, the oracle corporation, hewlett-packard, they all announced bye-bye and they are leaving california and they are

going to texas. not far behind the residents of california they are fleeing the state. over the past decade 1.3 million people left california then came in from other states. after this year's census california lost a congressional seat and for the first time ever and it's only getting worse. as we speak the states ongoing draconian covid-19 lockdown measures they continue to drive more residents out of the great state because of governor newsom's unholy alliance with teachers unions over know half of california's public school students are not in the classroom. as a point of reference, and florida kids have a back to school since august but of course governor newsom's children, well, they've enjoyed and personal learning at a private school for quite some time just like the governor enjoyed a massless dinner with no social distancing at an upscale restaurant all while restricting california residents

from doing the same and even shutting down businesses that do not strictly adhere to his long list of covid rules and regulations. keep in mind california has twice as many covid deaths as florida and a similar per capita death rate in florida has been wide open for months. tonight it is clear, california is at a crossroads and its governor is now facing a recall election and people of california will have a critical decision to make. one candidate, caitlin jenner, is bowing a new path, new vision forward for the people of california. take a look. >> california needs a destructive, compassionate disruptor. i came here with a dream 48 years ago to be the greatest athlete in the world and now i enter a different kind of race, arguably my most important one yet.

save california. i want to carry the torch for the parents who had to balance work and their child's education, for business owners forced to shut down, for pastors who are not able to be with their congregation or the family who lost their home in a fire. an entire generation of students who lost a year of education. this past year has redefined our politicians as elitists and the people of california as the angels. we never take kindly to glass ceilings here but instead we shatter them. we are the trailblazers, the innovators, california's facing big hurdles and now we need leaders who are unafraid to leap to new heights. unafraid to challenge and to change the status quo. >> i want to prove that it is absolutely possible if we only

do it together. california, it is time to reopen our schools, reopen our businesses, reopen the golden gates so i don't care if you are a republican, democrat but i'm running to be governor for all of california. to reclaim our true identity, bring back the goal to the golden state. now is the time to achieve that and to be the shining city on a hill and together we will restore and renew the california dream. hannity: so just how will caitlin restore that california dream and can she actually beat the states very powerful democratic machine? moments ago, caitlin wrapped up a private event with supporters and they decided to tickle around. thank you for being here. [cheering and applause] caitlin jenner now joins us.

>> wait a second, after that opening? i'm out of here. that was the scariest thing i ever heard. hannity: well, it's all true. >> it is true. i've got a gift. hannity: thank you, what is it? >> we are —. hannity: hannity supports caitlin and he's not allowed to. by the way, i support the recall. to be clear. it's amazing when you think about it, i have so much respect for athletes and you did not win the gold and 72 but came back in 76 and he won the gold, a great olympian, a great champion and you really, i only say politics is a bloodsport and a part of me says what the hell are you thinking in this is hard. >> it was not an easy decision.

it took an awfully long time. i've always been involved in politics for the lgbt community and i used to go back but in 1973 i graduated from a college in iowa and packed up my 63 beat up bug and drove across the country and everything i owned was in the back seat. i came out was coming to california, the golden state, and i went to san jose. why? because san jose was where the great athletes lived. i met them in my first olympics in 1972 and i wanted to learn from all these other great athletes. in 1976 we took, we placed fifth as a nation with three gold medals, the silver and a bronze within a five-mile rating on my house and i put myself with these great athletes and i

learned so much. i want to do the same thing now. i want to take that same fight, that same spirit and go to sacramento, surround myself with some of the smartest people out there. i am an outsider. i understand that. smartest people out there because now i am in a race for solutions. i need to find solutions to be able to turn this state around. i absolutely love this state. i'm a fighter, always have been in a come from a long line of fighters and my grandfather was in world war i and was in the dead pile and somebody was walking by and heard a moan and they said oh my god, someone is alive in here and pulled him out and went on to live a good life. hannity: they thought he was dead. >> yet, they had the tag on his foot and everything. he went on to live a good life. my father, when he was 19 in

fact, welcome to my hangar and i have pictures on the wall of my father over there when he was 19 when world war ii was breaking out and he wanted to fight. he joined the fifth battalion and landed with the first votes on omaha beach and 364 guys in his division and 60 came back alive. hannity: let me get —- >> i thought to myself, you know what, if we can fight and you say it all the time that if we can fight somebody has to stand up, you know, i'm not going up omaha beach in sacramento but we have to change things. i love this country.

i made patriarch. i love the state. the state has done so much for me over the years but i've watched it crumble right in front of my eyes. you've got to stand up, you know, and so i knew it would not be easy. i knew it would be tough but, you know what? california is worth fighting for. that's what i'm doing. hannity: let's talk about —- in the course of the time we have here i want to get specific, very specific issues. let's start with the general overall overarch, i want you to grade gavin newsom. i want you to define what a compassionate disruptor is that words you use to describe yourself and then we will get into the specifics of what it would take for california, the state that you clearly love to recover.

>> gavin newsom —-dash what i see in gavin newsom is a politician up to special interests and makes his decision as a politician in special interests and the hypocrisy that is going on right now. it's like there is one set of rules for sacramento and another set of rules for everybody else. i mean, you seen the video of him at the french laundry, okay. i can't go down to my restaurant and all the employees in that restaurant down there are not working. he is of their dining. we see nancy pelosi and i can't go to my hair salon and all the salons in my town are closed and no one can go in there and no one is working and people are losing money but she can sneak in and it's the hypocrisy of what is going on and yes, it is a —- a dynasty, i guess you

could say in sacramento and they have been in charge for the last 40 years for it i mean we had reagan come in a little bit and arnold come in a little bit as republicans but it's been a dynasty. as we see what has happened here and in the recall everybody was behind the recall and they needed 1.5 million and they got 2.1 but, of course, the democrats had to verify every signature. isn't that shocking? hannity: does not shock me. >> eventually they wound up after they disallowed half a million of them and they had 1.6 so the recall is on but i'm fighting against the hypocrisy going on. he has been bad on every issue. bad on taxes. obviously, were the most taxed state in the nation and he is been horrible for business and obviously companies are leaving left and right and 18000 companies have left california. my friends are leaving

california. the guy was packing up his hangar directly across from me and i asked him where he was going and he said i'm moving to sedona, arizona because i can't take it anymore. i can't walk down the streets and see the homeless. i don't want to leave. either i stay and fight or i get out of here. hannity: let's describe —- you can answer the specifics. are you republican or democrat or independent? i really want you to define this term, compassionate disruptor. what is a compassionate disruptor? >> i played around with that term and originally i started as a compassionate disruptor and then i was thinking the other day i think i'm more of a —- disruptor. i see what's going on and i see no common sense and politics and why they are doing it because only for political reasons. i have always been on the

republican side just because i have conservative economic values and you know the old saying lower taxes, less regulation and more from the business environment and we don't have that in california but socially i've been much more progressive all my life and i get it and people do need help. we need programs and but you cannot have social programs without an economy and that doesn't happen because you just don't have the finances to do it and that's what's happening here in california. and so, it has been so frustrating for me, i don't care, honestly i like everybody. i'm friends with everybody. hannity: i don't like everybody. there are people in life i don't like. >> i can get along with anybody. honestly, i don't care if you are republican, democrat, libertarian, vegetarian. it doesn't make any difference to me. i want solutions. democrats if they are ready to

come up with great solutions on behind that 100% but to bring the state back in to give the power of this state back to the people and not just to special interests. hannity: let's get to specifics. california is a sanctuary state and would you eliminate sanctuary status to the state of california? >> i would keep in a sanctuary state for small businesses. hannity: meaning? >> i want small businesses to come into the state and i want people to create wealth here and to employ people but as far as immigration, no, i am not on that. we need to spend money to have a fair and equitable immigration system. hannity: gavin newsom has given $500 checks to illegal immigrants guaranteed healthcare for illegal immigrants in his

errant education for illegal immigrants and it's a big issue so what would you do different? for example, would you continue building the border wall? >> i am all for the wall. i would secure the wall. we can't have a state or a country without secure wall. you have two questions here. one is stopping people from coming in illegally into the state and then the second question is what to do with people that are here. we are a compassionate country. we are compassionate state and some help, some people we wilson back. no question about that. i have met some of the greatest immigrants into our country and i met a guy the other day and he was spanish and known him for 17 years and i said come over here because i want to learn so what is your status and he said i've

been in this for 17 years and this was a gentleman, this was the greatest guy and i want him to be a u.s. citizen and he's an asset to the state and to this country but he's been trying for 17 years to get citizenship and says i'm hoping. hannity: did he come over legally —- >> i think it was on a visa and state. but he's lost two jobs because he didn't have legal status and finally got this other job where i met him and he is the nicest, greatest guy and he would make, i mean, i would do everything for him to stay here. so, you have to deal with it. we have to modernize. we have not modernized our immigration system in the united states to make it possible for people to immigrate. hannity: but let me ask you this —- would you allow the state to work with ice and enforce the laws, in other words, people get

out of jail and they are supposed to be deported, would you work with —- if you eliminate all the century status that currently exists in the state. >> i would do my absolute best to do that. it will not be easy but i would do my absolute best and i am for securing the state and i am full pro law enforcement and i am pro border protection and ice, pro ice and we need these people and they do a wonderful job. hannity: a lot more to get to. when we come back, more caitlyn jenner and also we get her take on silicon valley's big tech censorship, so much more with a lot of ground to cover. thank you for being with us.

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hannity: as we continue to broadcast sonny's south california highest tax state in the country for the hour we continue with california gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner. ami get to this issue. on the issue of girls transgender sports created a controversy and that was interesting to me and your comments to joy behar and we have bigger problems than pronouns in the state of california. joy behar and i agree on nothing but i thought it was very gracious of you and i agreed with you and i don't think she did it on purpose. >> honestly, my mother at times miss genders me. by the way, my mother, okay, she was during world war ii she was a park inspector for the avenger aircraft and is a patriot and i love her to death and she's living in idaho. my mother loves you.

she watches you every night —- no. [applause] she watches you every night and calls me after the show to discuss everything on hannity so in ten days she turns 95 and her name is esther. quickly numeral maybe give the camera a happy birthday. hannity: of course, esther, happy birthday, god bless you and you are smart because you are in idaho and by the way, i'm dom i'm in new york. happy birthday. you are in our love, thoughts and prayers. >> she will go crazy on that one. i just had to do that. hannity: but girls transgender sports, people like joy that say the wrong thing. >> joy, i mentioned a second ago that my mom sometimes she gets upset and i don't have a problem

with that in the community has a bigger problem with that than i do. i stick with my statements i made. i think we have to make sure that the integrity of girls sports is there. i think that's extremely important. there is more to it than just what i said because i just said biological boys in sports and there's more to that than that. in the future i will explain more of that but for me as a trans woman, i think role models are extremely important for young people. trans issue people struggle with big time. our suicide rate is nine times higher than the general public. for me to be a role model for them and to be out there, i'm running for governor of the state of california and whoever would have thought that? we've never even had a woman

governor. hannity: but some are mad at you. >> i don't —- you know, i move on. i want to be a role model and i think to be a leader and i think the most important thing as a leader that you can do is your compassion, your honesty and i think that is sometimes very lacking in politics. i want to be an example, to all people, not just trans people. hannity: what about the sports side of it though —- how you came down on the sports side of the issue. >> i don't know why they keep asking that. what do you think, sean? why do they keep asking that question? hannity: great question. >> it is a good question but we can deal with that and there is more problems here in the state of california then that. hannity: understood and there

are. i want to get into —- honestly,. >> i'm standing on my back porch a couple of years ago and i am watching 200-foot planes come in or coming up the hill that we. why? 17 miles away in chatsworth a transformer blew. a few hours later it traveled 1y evacuate my house because it was so intense and we had not had it burned there in 35 years and it was so intense and we need to upgrade our grid, our electrical system. i think that's a position that we work with the electrical companies in sacramento. i don't think sacramento and the taxpayer should do all of that and they are already paying enough. hannity: these rolling blackouts. >> i put a generator at my house because every time the wind blows they turn off everything

because they're afraid some system will spark and start a fire. we also, when i stood there watching this fire come at me i never saw —- now i love the fire department and i love these guys that are out there but what was coming to my house i never saw one helicopter or one fire truck and i did not even hear a siren. granted and i live a more rural area and they were probably over protecting warehouses but we need to do a better job and we need early detection system when it comes to fires and i've seen so many of them in malibu and i lived there for 48 years and the biggest thing in the most important thing is that the jump on the fire as quick as possible and put it out when it is small. once it gets away from them they can't. hannity: would you allow controlled burns? isn't there a science behind forestry and is that science being ignored in the state? >> yes. hannity: i lived in santa barbara and watched hope branch burned down after i just left the state.

>> yes, or forest management is actually important. just like in my house and it's not even forest management at my house but the reason my housemate it is because they say you have to keep any brush 50 or 75 feet and i think at 75 feet clearance. when the fires came they just went around my house so fast that it was gone because it's moving very fast so it's almost the same thing for forest management. a little bit of preparation, you know and my housemate it but five houses around meat were burned to the ground and lives were destroyed. hannity: we now went through this worldwide pandemic, very huge differences between say, red states, florida, california so what would you have done differently if you were the governor with covid-19? >> first of all, gavin newsom on this issue has been absolutely horrible. okay? he's used it as a political tool in the state to shut it down and

to control people and that should not happen. he has destroyed businesses, thousands of businesses were destroyed. restaurants were destroyed. not being able to open up and he should have done a better job. i don't blame anyone back in march of 2020 grade i don't blame federal government for calming down and saying we will shut this country down quickly and they did. i don't think anybody had any idea how it would be a political game to reopen. as you said, some states have done very well, you mention florida. we've done a terrible job. easy example. florida, orlando, disney world opened up nine months ago. anaheim disneyland opened up six days ago.

we are talking nine months of shutting disneyland down when it did not have to be shut down. the list goes over and over and just his total mismanagement of this process. hannity: if you had to pick governors in the country, like new york, newsom, whitmer, murphy and they all have the executive orders for nursing homes which people don't seem to talk about and are there two or three governors you look at in the country that you think are doing a great job that if you become governor —- >> honestly i would've coordinated with those people and been calling them and talking to them what's working for you and what's not working for you. if he comes and i look at the successful ones they've all been a collaboration between private business and government. hannity: when you open the state of california completely tomorrow? >> absolutely. open it right up it actually.

hannity: just don't close in and out burger before i leave. >> even on a small scale is already working already. about three weeks ago it was rumored and rightly so it was rumored that i was looking into running for governor in the next day gavin newsom has a press conference and says the state is opening up july 15 and i'm like laying in bed and watching this insane yes, it's already working. hannity: by the way, he is blaming this recall on q anan, anti- backstairs and anti- immigration citizens. >> i'm pro illegal immigration and i want to organize and we really have to —. hannity: your pro illegal invasion. >> yes pro illegal immigration did i miss that legal part? thank you for catching me. you got my back, sean and ip say that. >> i knew what you were saying.

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gavin newsom will release 76000 additional inmates for good behavior, 63000 of them committed violent crimes. would you do that? >> not at all. i think on the leasing of the prisoners criminal justice reform is very important and we need to do that. okay? we need to rehabilitate people and present and bring them back into the community safely. in his case i don't know how many of these people have actually been rehabilitated to go back into society. i am 100% behind our police force. every place i go that if i see a cop or if i'm driving and i see a cop i will put my hand out the window and give him a thumbs up.

if i'm sitting there i will pull up and say thank you for your service. this city appreciates what you do. i am 100% support our police forces. as far as i would be very tough on rioting. using as many forces as i could possibly used to stop the riot and protect the citizen and the medicine misses of this community and i think that is extremely important. the national guard, whatever we need to keep peace. hannity: what is the police reform then that you want? >> the only police reform i think we need —- look, every business out there, good people and bad people. no matter if you are a journalist, okay, no matter what the businesses. hannity: so go ahead. >> no matter what it is you will get good and bad. i think proper training and been

able to weed out the good with the bad and i have a very good friend of mine who was in the sheriff's department for years and we talk a lot about this issue and i was talking with him the other day about it and he said you know what the sad part is that the sheriff's department's training center is like almost empty because no one wants to be a cop anymore. hannity: do you blame them after all? >> i do not blame them but from sacramento that has to change. hannity: this is important. how do you change that? in other words, for example, i would suggest more training and i would look for more nonlethal options i think would be a good idea but defunding, dismantling, my question to people is who will you call? >> i totally agree. it's just a stupid idea. again, no common sense and

sacramento. no common sense. to release prisoners into the community and then said they will defund the police and i support the police 100% and i support the national guard and i support our business owners in los angeles and around the country and would do everything i can to protect them. hannity: we have other issues, for example, gavin newsom talks about taxing water. i did a show from san joaquin valley —- [laughter] i was doing my research and the delta smelt venting farmers from being able to farm and that's not a small deal. >> i heard about that delta smelt. hannity: what would you do on that case? >> water is a big issue in the state. it's a big issue in the state. to be honest with you, i mean, every year i follow just as a resident i follow what the water quality —- i used to have a home in tahoe and that's where the

bulk of our water comes from and every year i see this guy go out and he is on the news and he has this big long poll and takes it out of his vehicle and sticks it down to see how much snow we have and this year it was only down may be three or 4 feet and other it's been 10 feet and he's pushing the poll and you're thinking we are in pretty good shape. our water system is going up and down all the time. this year we are down. in the los angeles area we probably have only had two good rainfalls. you can see that from my house and you can see how vegetation is very, you know, it's not green but it just has not gotten much water. we are headed for a drought. that has to be looked at in advance. here is my crazy thinking. again, sean, logical thinking. we are now spending billions of dollars on this high-speed rail.

okay? they talked about it all the time between la and san francisco and i'm going why are we doing that? i can get on a plane at lax and i'll be in san francisco in 50 minutes so why do we need high-speed rails? why don't we do this, why don't we invest that money in desalination plants along the coast and take that water any time it's a bad year, desalinate the water and have some pipes going over the mountains out to the san joaquin valley for all our farmers and have it down here or in the can moreno area and drive through the farm yards every year so why don't we look at it —- wait a second, maybe water is a bigger issue than trying to move a few people —. hannity: believe it or not, 33 years ago that was the big issue in santa barbara that we got to take another break and i want to ask you when we get back about texas. highest tax state in the country

so how do you stop people from leaving your state? >> looking forward to that. hannity: will quit, caitlyn jenner gubernatorial candidate is with us.

hannity: as we continue southern california with gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner we have four years of donald trump and we fed joe biden, kamala harris, give me your assessment of those three people.

>> what i liked about donald trump as he was a disrupter, you know, he came in and shook the system up, okay? a lot of people didn't like that and he came in and check the system up and i think he did some things that i agree with and some things i did not agree with. hannity: you are critical on transgender issues. >> i was more hopeful at the beginning and but there were some good things he did. on the other hand, fighting, i don't think of agreed with anything. since he has been in there he has done anything for the american worker, may be other ones. it is a, it is a 180 degrees turn in our country going the other direction and it scares me. hannity: are you happy with how

everything worked out and remember that is the first thing i would say but the second thing i would ask you is you said to me that bruce jenner cannot be doing this you as caitlyn jenner are doing, meaning running for governor's. what did you mean by that? >> when you deal with gender dysphoria it affects you your whole life. you are a little kid and wondering i grew up in the 50s and 60s and no one knew what it was and there wasn't even a name. and so, my whole life i struggled with this issue. i snuck around and i wasn't honest with myself and a lot of times not honest with other people. that all changed when i finally

had my final conversation with god. i talked to all my children and i raised all my kids 65, 64, i have a wonderful group of children and they've all done very well. yes, they have. but discussed it with all my children but the last thing i did do was sit down with my pastor because if anybody has any issues in their life that they —- and everybody does. everyone has stuff they have to deal with. if they have any faith in their soul whatsoever they sit there and they go, god, why did you do this? why is this issue for me of identity in my head 24 hours a day, every day, 365 days out of the year and you can take two aspirin and get plenty of sleep and wake up and you're fine but it's always there and it's who you are. but why?

this question was always in my heart and i sat down with my pastor and, you know what? i thought is there a reason for this. am i doing the right thing? do i need to come out and make a difference in price and probably the most marginalized community in the world and after a long thought i said, you know what, at this point in my life, my kids are raised and everyone is fine and maybe it's time i take care of myself. when that day comes and you go up to the pearly gates and you walk up the stairs and you see god in front of you and you just asks that question, did i do a good job? did i do the right thing? you just hope he says hey, come on in. i did a good job. so that is what my life has been

about. i'm just trying to be myself and i can be myself now that i could not do before because i too many secrets. in my book, secrets of my life, i got all my secrets out and i have no secrets anymore. i just wake up and be myself all day. i still feel like i'm doing the right thing and that's the most important thing and i think when i get up there on that day hopefully i'm in. hannity: caitlyn jenner, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure but always a pleasure to talk with you, sean. now we've got to go to my plane around the corner and will go up for a flight. hannity: wheels up. thank you for your time. we wish you nothing but the best and we will follow this phrase closely but final thoughts from california as we continue.

hannity: before we go tonight we want to think caitlyn jenner for

sitting down with us. as always, thank you for tuning in. you make the show possible but unfortunately that is all the time we have left and we will never eat the media mob and were always independent but let not your heart be troubled because laura ingram or somebody is taking over from here. thanks again and we will see you monday night. ♪ ♪. mark: hello america i'm mark within and this is life liberty and the been and we have two great guest this evening. the topics are immigration, as well as the 1619 project but before i get to them but related to them i've written a new book called american marxism. why did