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spectrum and represented reagan ca actually represented the shining city on a hill. but now, today california suffering. the democratic party rule has been unchecked and by the way hasn't been checked in a decade estate taxes are beyond oppressive especially for those struggling to get by could be highest 12 or 13 percent corporate taxes of course they don't pay taxes they pass it on to we the people that's hovering aroundd

10 percentet. get this, california gas tax 50 cents per gallon the highest in the nation. it has caused home prices to skyrocket now homelessness upon the state thousands upon thousands of makeshift shelters on very busy streets with los angeles or san francisco and the situation is dire. we have shown you ourselves we have sent our cameras to los angeles and san francisco. to make matters worse california's hemorrhaging jobs. now it has the third highest unemployment rate in the country and in the last year alone elon musk the oracle

corporation, hewlett-packard, al announced by by they are leaving california and they are going to texas. not far behind is the residents of california. they are fleeing the state. over the past decade, one.3 million people left california and came in from other states. after this year census they lost a congressional seat for the first time ever and it's only getting worse. le ng the states ongoing to connie and lockdown measures continue to drive more residents out of this great state because of governor newsome unholy alliance withe the teachers unions and then as a point of reference kids of them back in school since august but his children have been in person learning in private school for quite some time despite the governor had a mask list dinner with no social distancing at the upscale restaurant all while restricting california

residents from doing the same even shutting down businesses that do not strictly adhere to the long list of covid rules and regulations california has twice as many deaths as florida and a similar per capita death rate and florida has been wide-open for months. tonight it is clear california is at a a crossroad governor newsome now faces a recall election and the people of california will have a critical decision to make now caitlin jenner thousand new path in a new vision forward. take a look. >> california needs a disruptor a compassionate disruptor. i came in with a dream 40 years ago to be the greatest athlete in the world. now i enter a different kind of race, arguably my most

important one rate, to save hecalifornia. i will carry the torch for the parents you to cap for business owners forced to shut down pastors who were not able to be with their congregation are those who lost their home in a fire. entire generation of students who lost one year of education. this past year has redefined career politicians as elitist. and the people of california as the warriors and the kings and the angels. there are no glass ceilings here. instead we shatter them. trailblazers the innovators. california is facing big hurdles now weaz n are unafraido reach the new heights. those are unafraid to challenge and change the status quo.

>> it is absolutely possible if we can only do it together. it's time to reopen our schools. real are businesses. reopen the golden gates. >> in the care of your republican or you democrat. that you reframe our true identity bring back the gold to the golden state. to be the shining city on the hill together to renew the california dream. reporter: how will caitlin restore that californiall dream? and can be the states democratic machine moments ago teefifteen wrapped up the private event. good to see you.

and now caitlin jenner joins us. >> that was the scariest thing heard. sean: it is all true. >> i got you a gift. >> with the face mask out here in california. >> by the way i support the recall let's be very clear. it is amazing when you think about it. i have such respect for athletes. he won the golden 72 and came back and 76 and one the gold is a great olympian great champion.

i always say politics is a bloodsport and what the hell you thinking? this was hard. >> it was not an easy decision. it took an awfully long time. i've always been involved in politics for the lgbtq community. butt in 1973 i graduated from college in i packed up my volkswagen bug and drove across the country everything i owned in the backseat. and i came out to california the golden state. i went to san jose because after all the great athletes live in that them in my first olympics in 72. in fact in 1976, we placed fifth as a nation three gold medals and a silver and bronze. i put myself with these great

arathletes i learned so much. i want to do the same thing now. want to take that same fight and spirit to sacramento and surround myself with the smartest people outit there because now i'm in the race for solutions. i need to find solutions to turn the state around. i absolutely love this state. i am a fighter. i always have been. i come from a long line of fighters. my grandfather in world war i he was in the dead pile somebody heard ammonia they pulled him out. sean: he thought he was dead? >> he had a tag on his foot and everything. went on to live a good life. my father in 19 this is

actually my hanger i have pictures on the wall of my father when world war ii was breaking out he joined the fifth ranger battalion. landed withh the first votes on omaha beach 364 guys in his division six came back alive. so i thought to myself we can fight. we say it all the time. somebody has to stand up. not going up to omaha beach or sacramento but we have to

change things. i love this country i am a patriot i love this state. has done so much for me over the years and i have watched it crumble right in front of my eyes. and you have to stand up. so i knew it would not be easy. i knew it would be tough. but california is worth fighting for and that's what i'm doing. sean: let's talk about in the course of time we have here together let's get specific let's talk with the general overall overarching defined what a compassionate disruptor is that you use to describe yourself and then we will get into the specifics to the

california estate you clearly love to recover? when i see with governor newsom as a politician. with one set of rules for sacramento and one set of else.for everybody but the hypocrisy of what's going on yes it is a dynasty

you can say that democrats have been charged with had a few republicans but as we see what happens here and in the recall, everybody was behind the recall they need one.5 million they needed two.one. but of course the democrats had to verify every signature. isn't that shocking? that eventually they had one.six after they disallowed. the recall is on but i'm fighting against the hypocrisy every issue on taxes obviously the most tech state and the nation. he's been horrible for business obviously companies are leaving left and right 18000 have left california.

guys that i can't take it anymore i'm living to sedona i don't want to leave but either i stay and fight or i get out of here. sean: are you republican or democrat or independent? i really want you to define the term passionateou disruptor. what is a compassionate disruptor quick. >> i have played around with that term. originally i started off as compassionate disruptor now i think i'm more of a thoughtful disruptor. more common sense i see what's going on is no common sense of politics and why they do it except for political reasons.

i have always been on the republican side just because i have conservative economic values. lower taxes less regulation more friendly business environment. we don't have that in california. but socially i am much more progressive. i get it. people need help we need programs but you cannot have social programs you just don't have the finances to do it that's it's happening here in california. so it has been so frustrating for me. honestly i like everybody. there are people i don't like in life. if you are republican or democrat a libertarian it makes a difference to me.

i am behind that 100 percent. solutions to bring the state back into give the power of the state back to the people. sean: let's getet to specifics. sean: california is a century state would you eliminate century status in the state of california? >> i would keep it a sanctuary state for small business. i people to create wealth and employ here but immigration, no. to have an equitable immigration system.

guaranteeing education it's a big issue would you continue building on the border wall? >> i would secure the while we cannot have a state or a country without a secure wall. and stopping people coming in illegally and then what we do with those people that areo d here? we are a compassionate country and the state. some people we will send back no question. but i have met some of the greatest immigrants in our country i had met the guy the other day i've known him for 17 years and i said come over here. what is your status he said i

been in this country 17 years. i want him to be a us citizen but he has been trying for 17 years to get citizenship. i think he was on a visa and stayed. but he lost two jobs because he didn't have legalal status he is the nicest and greatest guy i would do everything for him to stayo here. so we have to modernize the immigration system in the united states to make itze possible do you lower the state to work with i.c.e.

people get out of jail. they are supposed to be deported would you eliminate all sanctuary status thats currently exist? >> i would do my absolute best. i am for securing the state i am pro- law-enforcement i am pro- border protection. we need these people and they do a wonderful job. sean: we have a lot more to get to. thank you for being with us. when we come back we are with caitlin jenner and also m her take on silicon valley censorship. moret after this.

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hannity: as we continue to broadcast sonny's south california highest tax state in the country for the hour we continue with california gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner. ami get to this issue. on the issue of girls transgender sports created a controversy and that was interesting to me and your comments to joy behar and we have bigger problems than pronouns in the state of california. joy behar and i agree on nothing but i thought it was very gracious of you and i agreed with you and i don't think she did it on purpose. >> honestly, my mother at times miss genders me. by the way, my mother, okay, she was during world war ii she was a park inspector for the avenger aircraft and is a patriot and i love her to death and she's living in idaho. my mother loves you.

she watches you every night —- no. [applause] she watches you every night and calls me after the show to discuss everything on hannity so in ten days she turns 95 and her name is esther. quickly numeral maybe give the camera a happy birthday. hannity: of course, esther, happy birthday, god bless you and you are smart because you are in idaho and by the way, i'm dom i'm in new york. happy birthday. you are in our love, thoughts and prayers. >> she will go crazy on that one. i just had to do that. hannity: but girls transgender sports, people like joy that say the wrong thing. >> joy, i mentioned a second ago that my mom sometimes she gets upset and i don't have a problem with that in the community has a

bigger problem with that than i do. i stick with my statements i made. i think we have to make sure that the integrity of girls sports is there. i think that's extremely important. there is more to it than just what i said because i just said biological boys in sports and there's more to that than that. in the future i will explain more of that but for me as a trans woman, i think role models are extremely important for young people. trans issue people struggle with big time. our suicide rate is nine times higher than the general public. for me to be a role model for them and to be out there, i'm running for governor of the state of california and whoever would have thought that? we've never even had a woman

governor. hannity: but some are mad at you. >> i don't —- you know, i move on. i want to be a role model and i think to be a leader and i think the most important thing as a leader that you can do is your compassion, your honesty and i think that is sometimes very lacking in politics. i want to be an example, to all people, not just trans people. hannity: what about the sports side of it though —- how you came down on the sports side of the issue. >> i don't know why they keep asking that. what do you think, sean? why do they keep asking that question? hannity: great question. >> it is a good question but we can deal with that and there is more problems here in the state of california then that. hannity: understood and there

are. i want to get into —- honestly,. >> i'm standing on my back porch a couple of years ago and i am watching 200-foot planes come in or coming up the hill that we. why? 17 miles away in chatsworth a transformer blew. a few hours later it traveled 1y evacuate my house because it was so intense and we had not had it burned there in 35 years and it was so intense and we need to upgrade our grid, our electrical system. i think that's a position that we work with the electrical companies in sacramento. i don't think sacramento and the taxpayer should do all of that and they are already paying enough. hannity: these rolling blackouts. >> i put a generator at my house because every time the wind blows they turn off everything

because they're afraid some system will spark and start a fire. we also, when i stood there watching this fire come at me i never saw —- now i love the fire department and i love these guys that are out there but what was coming to my house i never saw one helicopter or one fire truck and i did not even hear a siren. granted and i live a more rural area and they were probably over protecting warehouses but we need to do a better job and we need early detection system when it comes to fires and i've seen so many of them in malibu and i lived there for 48 years and the biggest thing in the most important thing is that the jump on the fire as quick as possible and put it out when it is small. once it gets away from them they can't. hannity: would you allow controlled burns? isn't there a science behind forestry and is that science being ignored in the state? >> yes. hannity: i lived in santa barbara and watched hope branch burned down after i just left the state.

>> yes, or forest management is actually important. just like in my house and it's not even forest management at my house but the reason my housemate it is because they say you have to keep any brush 50 or 75 feet and i think at 75 feet clearance. when the fires came they just went around my house so fast that it was gone because it's moving very fast so it's almost the same thing for forest management. a little bit of preparation, you know and my housemate it but five houses around meat were burned to the ground and lives were destroyed. hannity: we now went through this worldwide pandemic, very huge differences between say, red states, florida, california so what would you have done differently if you were the governor with covid-19? >> first of all, gavin newsom on this issue has been absolutely horrible. okay? he's used it as a political tool in the state to shut it down and

to control people and that should not happen. he has destroyed businesses, thousands of businesses were destroyed. restaurants were destroyed. not being able to open up and he should have done a better job. i don't blame anyone back in march of 2020 grade i don't blame federal government for calming down and saying we will shut this country down quickly and they did. i don't think anybody had any idea how it would be a political game to reopen. as you said, some states have done very well, you mention florida. we've done a terrible job. easy example. florida, orlando, disney world opened up nine months ago. anaheim disneyland opened up six days ago.

we are talking nine months of shutting disneyland down when it did not have to be shut down. the list goes over and over and just his total mismanagement of this process. hannity: if you had to pick governors in the country, like new york, newsom, whitmer, murphy and they all have the executive orders for nursing homes which people don't seem to talk about and are there two or three governors you look at in the country that you think are doing a great job that if you become governor —- >> honestly i would've coordinated with those people and been calling them and talking to them what's working for you and what's not working for you. if he comes and i look at the successful ones they've all been a collaboration between private business and government. hannity: when you open the state of california completely tomorrow? >> absolutely. open it right up it actually.

hannity: just don't close in and out burger before i leave. >> even on a small scale is already working already. about three weeks ago it was rumored and rightly so it was rumored that i was looking into running for governor in the next day gavin newsom has a press conference and says the state is opening up july 15 and i'm like laying in bed and watching this insane yes, it's already working. hannity: by the way, he is blaming this recall on q anan, anti- backstairs and anti- immigration citizens. >> i'm pro illegal immigration and i want to organize and we really have to —. hannity: your pro illegal invasion. >> yes pro illegal immigration did i miss that legal part? thank you for catching me. you got my back, sean and ip say that. >> i knew what you were saying.

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gavin newsom will release 76000 additional inmates for good behavior, 63000 of them committed violent crimes. would you do that? >> not at all. i think on the leasing of the prisoners criminal justice reform is very important and we need to do that. okay? we need to rehabilitate people and present and bring them back into the community safely. in his case i don't know how many of these people have actually been rehabilitated to go back into society. i am 100% behind our police force. every place i go that if i see a cop or if i'm driving and i see a cop i will put my hand out the window and give him a thumbs up. if i'm sitting there i will pull

up and say thank you for your service. this city appreciates what you do. i am 100% support our police forces. as far as i would be very tough on rioting. using as many forces as i could possibly used to stop the riot and protect the citizen and the medicine misses of this community and i think that is extremely important. the national guard, whatever we need to keep peace. hannity: what is the police reform then that you want? >> the only police reform i think we need —- look, every business out there, good people and bad people. no matter if you are a journalist, okay, no matter what the businesses. hannity: so go ahead. >> no matter what it is you will get good and bad. i think proper training and been

able to weed out the good with the bad and i have a very good friend of mine who was in the sheriff's department for years and we talk a lot about this issue and i was talking with him the other day about it and he said you know what the sad part is that the sheriff's department's training center is like almost empty because no one wants to be a cop anymore. hannity: do you blame them after all? >> i do not blame them but from sacramento that has to change. hannity: this is important. how do you change that? in other words, for example, i would suggest more training and i would look for more nonlethal options i think would be a good idea but defunding, dismantling, my question to people is who will you call? >> i totally agree. it's just a stupid idea. again, no common sense and

sacramento. no common sense. to release prisoners into the community and then said they will defund the police and i support the police 100% and i support the national guard and i support our business owners in los angeles and around the country and would do everything i can to protect them. hannity: we have other issues, for example, gavin newsom talks about taxing water. i did a show from san joaquin valley —- [laughter] i was doing my research and the delta smelt venting farmers from being able to farm and that's not a small deal. >> i heard about that delta smelt. hannity: what would you do on that case? >> water is a big issue in the state. it's a big issue in the state. to be honest with you, i mean, every year i follow just as a resident i follow what the water quality —- i used to have a home in tahoe and that's where the bulk of our water comes from and

every year i see this guy go out and he is on the news and he has this big long poll and takes it out of his vehicle and sticks it down to see how much snow we have and this year it was only down may be three or 4 feet and other it's been 10 feet and he's pushing the poll and you're thinking we are in pretty good shape. our water system is going up and down all the time. this year we are down. in the los angeles area we probably have only had two good rainfalls. you can see that from my house and you can see how vegetation is very, you know, it's not green but it just has not gotten much water. we are headed for a drought. that has to be looked at in advance. here is my crazy thinking. again, sean, logical thinking. we are now spending billions of dollars on this high-speed rail.

okay? they talked about it all the time between la and san francisco and i'm going why are we doing that? i can get on a plane at lax and i'll be in san francisco in 50 minutes so why do we need high-speed rails? why don't we do this, why don't we invest that money in desalination plants along the coast and take that water any time it's a bad year, desalinate the water and have some pipes going over the mountains out to the san joaquin valley for all our farmers and have it down here or in the can moreno area and drive through the farm yards every year so why don't we look at it —- wait a second, maybe water is a bigger issue than trying to move a few people —. hannity: believe it or not, 33 years ago that was the big issue in santa barbara that we got to take another break and i want to ask you when we get back about texas. highest tax state in the country

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hannity: as we continue southern california with gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner we have four years of donald trump and we fed joe biden, kamala harris, give me your assessment of those three people.

>> what i liked about donald trump as he was a disrupter, you know, he came in and shook the system up, okay? a lot of people didn't like that and he came in and check the system up and i think he did some things that i agree with and some things i did not agree with. hannity: you are critical on transgender issues. >> i was more hopeful at the beginning and but there were some good things he did. on the other hand, fighting, i don't think of agreed with anything. since he has been in there he has done anything for the american worker, may be other ones. it is a, it is a 180 degrees turn in our country going the other direction and it scares me. hannity: are you happy with how

everything worked out and remember that is the first thing i would say but the second thing i would ask you is you said to me that bruce jenner cannot be doing this you as caitlyn jenner are doing, meaning running for governor's. what did you mean by that? >> when you deal with gender dysphoria it affects you your whole life. you are a little kid and wondering i grew up in the 50s and 60s and no one knew what it was and there wasn't even a name. and so, my whole life i struggled with this issue. i snuck around and i wasn't honest with myself and a lot of times not honest with other people. that all changed when i finally

had my final conversation with god. i talked to all my children and i raised all my kids 65, 64, i have a wonderful group of children and they've all done very well. yes, they have. but discussed it with all my children but the last thing i did do was sit down with my pastor because if anybody has any issues in their life that they —- and everybody does. everyone has stuff they have to deal with. if they have any faith in their soul whatsoever they sit there and they go, god, why did you do this? why is this issue for me of identity in my head 24 hours a day, every day, 365 days out of the year and you can take two aspirin and get plenty of sleep and wake up and you're fine but it's always there and it's who you are. but why?

this question was always in my heart and i sat down with my pastor and, you know what? i thought is there a reason for this. am i doing the right thing? do i need to come out and make a difference in price and probably the most marginalized community in the world and after a long thought i said, you know what, at this point in my life, my kids are raised and everyone is fine and maybe it's time i take care of myself. when that day comes and you go up to the pearly gates and you walk up the stairs and you see god in front of you and you just asks that question, did i do a good job? did i do the right thing? you just hope he says hey, come on in. i did a good job. so that is what my life has been

about. i'm just trying to be myself and i can be myself now that i could not do before because i too many secrets. in my book, secrets of my life, i got all my secrets out and i have no secrets anymore. i just wake up and be myself all day. i still feel like i'm doing the right thing and that's the most important thing and i think when i get up there on that day hopefully i'm in. hannity: caitlyn jenner, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure but always a pleasure to talk with you, sean. now we've got to go to my plane around the corner and will go up for a flight. hannity: wheels up. thank you for your time. we wish you nothing but the best and we will follow this phrase closel

hannity: before we go tonight we want to think caitlyn jenner for

sitting down with us. as always, thank you for tuning in. you make the show possible but unfortunately that is all the time we have left and we will never eat the media mob and were always independent but let not your heart be troubled because laura ingram or somebody is taking over from here. thanks again and we will see you monday night. kristin: i'm chris wallace. facebook's independent oversight board maintains a temporary ban on donald trump but sends the case back to the social media giant. now, facebook has six months to make a final decision. what does it mean for mr. trump's ability to get out his message and raise money as he considers another run for president. and what does it mean for the push in congress to regulate big tech? >> whether it's six months or six days, what we see in this decision is really about chilling free speech.