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♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> fox news alert. with crisis after crisis piling up in the white house, president biden dropping major news yesterday. announcing that fully vaccinated americans can leave their masks at home. it's about time. republicans are calling out the convenient timing as the president gives americans an ultimatum. >> the rule is very simple. get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do. >> kaleigh: i think dr. nicole
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sapphire will have a few thoughts on that. this is "outnumbered." i'm martha maccallum. here today, emily compagno, gillian turner, dr. nicole sapphire and joining us today for the very first time, welcome fox news analyst, raymond arroyo. >> thank you. >> kaleigh: good to have you here. the cdc's updated guidelines dominating the news cycle at a time when the president is facing criticism. from the response to the middle east to the handling of the southern border. the former assistant health secretary under president trump, admiral giroir says this about the questionable timing. >> look at the whirl wind that happened on wednesday night. dr. walensky was intransient in her position. yesterday morning dr. fauci said yeah, you still need a mask indoors and outdoors if you're in a crowd. by the afternoon, it was all
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over. these decisions are not pure science. shouldn't look at it that way. it's not about infection control. it's about opening america, liberties and how we run our country. there was no scientific knowledge that happened yesterday. in fact, when you look at the cdc website and they say what is the science behind it? it goes to an april 2 website. >> kaleigh: he's right, dr. sapphire. i know admiral giroir personally. i worked with him in the trump administration. he's someone that has been totally grounded. what do you make of the timing? too little too late? >> you know, it's interesting. i was covering it live yesterday when the announcements were made. when they were asked the question, you know, was there new science that came out or is this just because of political pressure? the answer was no, no, new data came out. she quoted a couple of studies. i was like i remember reading that in april.
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admiral giroir is correct. the data that they have referred to has been out a couple months. it been consistent. the cdc has been about two to three months behind the data when it comes to the recommendations. you know, i can tell you, it's a great food forward but i don't think they went far enough. they continue to ignore the science when it comes to this. they've had tunnel vision about getting to zero cases as a detriment. what they have to do at this time, get us open. they're only addressing those vaccinated. president biden put out a dangerous tweet yesterday. he said if you get vaccinated, take off your mask. if you don't, you have to keep wearing a mask. that's not true. he ignored the unvaccinated, the children, those that have contraindications to vaccination and what about the millions that have recovered with natural immunity? what about the reliable data that shows natural immunity from
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infection provide just as much protection as the vaccine? they continue to ignore that and that is extremely irresponsible. >> kaleigh: that's right. dr. scott atlas has been talking about natural immunity for some time. they tried to run him out of washington d.c. looks like he was exactly right. raymond, coming to you. i found this thought to be so interesting. the sound bite defending president biden's wearing of a mask from white house senior adviser for covid response, andy slavits. here's what he said as recently as wednesday. >> i'm not sure that the president is the average person. i personally think there's a lot of protections around the president. why does he need secret service? he's a very important person. i think you shouldn't take your mark just by what you see in the oval office. most people, if you're indoors, around other people vaccinated, the cdc says it's okay. you should listen to the cdc on
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that. >> kaleigh: so the lead covid adviser says to us that biden is so important that he needs to wear a mask wednesday. thursday, the mask guidelines are rescinded because none of us are important and now the science is on the side of not wearing the mask? >> this is like when biden came in, we were told science is back. after watching this play out, i'm thinking of whitney houston, steal the line "this science is whack." okay? none of this adds up. the prognostications on the spread were wrong. at christmas time, they say schools and restaurants and gyms would be super spreaders. none of that happened. as dr. sapphire said, what about the natural immunity of our children? yet today you have the cdc leaders that dr. walensky on "the today show." she said it will be hard to let go of masks.
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people want to wear them. we should do that. in their own time they'll let go of it. when did masks become pets? that's my problem in this. immunity as dr. sapphire said, we don't hear anything about t-cell immunity from the cdc or the innate immunity of the children. the idea that you say vaccinated people can go about their business and take masks off, but children in a playground outside have to be masked? that's what dr. fauci said yesterday. none of this adds up. it makes you feel that this information is being horded from us. only leaked out with political intent and with a political edge. basically to blunt these other stories that are swamping this white house. >> kaleigh: i hate to tell the cdc director, it won't be hard for me. i may have a bonfire in florida. >> me neither. mine was gone. so it was an easy parting.
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de-coupling. >> kaleigh: gillian, i worked in the trip administration on operation warp speed. i remember being in the oval office with the president and watching him put immense pressure on the officials around him, the science officials saying we have to get this vaccine out. do it safely. we have to not let regulations stand in our way. he planned for producing the vaccine in advance. it was remarkable. the biden administration gives little credit we're at this point. we don't see them give credit to the prior administration. >> we don't. in large part it's the natural transition from a republican to a democratic administration. we have also seen the white house kind of go out of their way sometimes including what the vice president said during the first week of the administration which was that we had essentially no vaccine roll-out plan when they came to office, which the nation knows is not the truth.
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if you guys will bear with me a second, i want to ask dr. sapphire a question. i don't know if this is a clear-cut question, but i'm bringing it up because it seems like nobody is talking about it. people have been tweeting me about it. they're saying there's a lot of americans that for them, for medical pre-existing medical reasons, a vaccine is not an option at all or it not an optimal option. can you talk to us before we start shaming everybody now who doesn't have a vaccine, talk to us about some of the medical conditions out there that will prevent reasonable-minded americans not just because they're being anti-vaxors but because their doctors and physicians recommend that they don't get it. talk to me about that. i don't know anything about it. >> it's important to differentiate between the
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traditional anti-vaxers and the vaccine hesitant. the vaccine hesitant, i understand why they hesitate. there are some medical conditions where it not necessarily contraindicated to get the vaccine but the truth is, we don't have a lot of data on it, specifically those with immunocompromised systems and auto immune diseases. those that have severe allergies, there can be a contraindication there. the college of rheumatology said they recommend people with auto immune diseases get the vaccine. they started to see upticks in the flares of those with auto immune disease get the vaccine. here's the conversation that people need to get. we have treatment for a lot of things. we still don't actually have a silver bullet in terms of treating severe covid-19. so this is the conversation. risk and benefit with your
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physician. the president shouldn't say you ha thoice that needs to come between the patient and their physician. i think the president and the cdc need to stay out of it. >> it's almost like the president saying those with pre-existing medical conditions that might not want to get the vaccine will have to bear this special burden that healthy people won't have to, is that right? >> it's a double edge sword. those with chronic medical conditions are at a higher risk for covid-19. those are the ones we're seeing hospitalized. again, there's been some concerns with the vaccines with people with certain conditions. i will say the data today does not show exacerbation of these conditions and they're proving to be safe in everyone. again, it's okay to be hesitant as long as you have a conversation and educate yourself. if your physician recommend against it, i don't think it fair for the president or the cdc to say you have to continue to wear a mask.
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it's their choice. they know they're at an increased risk. >> thank you for bringing that up, gillian. emily, to you. i want to have you button up this segment for us. you and i talked about the legal morass that some of these guidelines create and how one governor in particular, a good one, has a solution for that. >> emily: that's right, governor desantis in florida has now come out and said that he's going to grant clemency essentially and evaluate any pending criminal charges against any business owner and operator that is seeking charges for remaining open during the lock down. that's fantastic. i've been advocating for this. the deeper underlayer of the licensure and regulation. there's so many cases still simmering. let's take sunday river brewing co in maine. they were the most inspected restaurant. they had their liquor license
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taken awhy multiple times. their health licenses taken away. administrative hearing officer said that they were an imminent threat to public health and safety. their doors remain closed. this is against the backdrop of in maine, 55 covid deaths. you know how many people family depend on the brewery for their livelihood? 58. let's go to staten island considered an orange zone there in new york state. an owner was arrested and licenses taken away. the owner faced 25 criminal charges. this is at homicides are at 75%. doesn't the state have more to do? where i am here, the owner of farm boy restaurants faced fines of $2,000 a day when the reason they were staying open is because they couldn't afford to
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close. it's all of these licensure restrictions, the heavy fines and the yielding of a weapon by the health departments that i hope all of our elected officials will expunge moving forward because there's a lot more people suffering than just the good people under good governor desantis' watch there in florida. >> kaleigh: well-said. liberty matters. thanks for bringing that to light. moving on, the panic at the pump is persisting. still long lines at gas stations as a major pipeline recovers from a ransomware attack. when will supplies return to normal? up next. >> there's nothing we can do. i think they're raising the prices because they hacked the system. i have fantastic news for veteran homeowners who need cash. interest rates are near record lows, and home values are at record highs. now's the time to use your va benefits
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>> i'm just hoping there's gas that i can work the next couple weeks. >> i'm losing money because i cannot deliver. i have to go home and take a bike. start delivering from the bike. >> i look everywhere. >> nothing we can do. they're raising the prices because again they hacked the system. >> gillian: panic is setting in now as the full impact of the fuel shortage is settling in and spreading to new parts of the east coast. this is part of the fall-out from the cyber attack on a major pipeline last week. we now know it was carried out by a russian-based ransomware group. they're called darkside. now, in some good news here, colonial pipeline says it's back up and running, but the service
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disruption has caused long lines, high prices at the pump. according to gas buddy, over a dozen states plus dc are running low on fuel. an expert said it could be weeks before things are back to normal. emily, i'll come to you first out there on the west coast to ask you kind of what you're hearing and feeling. i know that seattle as opposed to l.a. or washington d.c. is a town where most people drive. you're much more dependent on your cars than in a lot of other cities. >> emily: i think seattle likes to think of itself as a bicycling city. but yes, many people are in their cars here. you're right. we have an outdated infrastructure here. so -- for cars. theres a lot of traffic to be dealt with. our gas prices are always high. i have to say that we picked the wrong time -- you know i have a
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72 mach 1 and it's going through an overhaul. i'm picking it up in north carolina over memorial day weekend. we're driving to tennessee. we're shaking our heads as we drive our gas guzzling muscle cars. poor timing. but i want viewers to take things away. one is that with the new step-up from this president to all of a sudden to create a cyber force task force and nip it in the bud here, the threats of cyber security, this has been going on for quite some time. i hope someone with a administration that touts their longevity with experience will draw from that. remember 2012, iran backed hacker group hacked saudi aramco and provided a major disruption for the oil industry. my second point has to do with the jones act, which the president has temporarily suspended. again, using common sense lifting regulations is helpful
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for the supply chain but i hope this drives a more concerted effort and awareness to do away with the jones act altogether, which is an outdated national security induced law that burdens our supply chains. so i hope moving forward, viewers pay attention to that and we can achieve that change of being permanently dismantled moving forward. >> gillian: i asked secretary pompeo about president biden's comments that the administration is not considering retaliatory action against this russian sponsored hacking group in cyber space. he said pompeo -- pompeo said that's the wrong approach. we should be considering what actions we can take to punish them. tell us a little bit about from your time in government -- lay out those options in hey people terms so we can talk about what we're dealing with here.
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>> kaleigh: yeah, secretary pompeo is right. we should take counter measures. i read from an expert, that's what you do do when you have a group like darkside that apparently, i was reading as we came to air, might be dismantling. we'll see if that turns out to be the case. we should take retaliatory measures and should not say categorically russia wasn't involved in this. we know that russia is tied to these criminal organizations. >> gillian: the government? >> kaleigh: the russian government. the fbi should do more digging on that and respond in kind if it's the case that russia was involved or against this company in particular. >> gillian: raymond -- have at it. >> raymond: well, i had to react to everything. you all are spot on. there's another point of view here that we shouldn't miss. i mean, joe biden, i'm waiting for the announcement that he's going to buy a peanut farm and
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go for the full jimmy carter. we have gas lines, the middle east is imploding, an immigration crisis. the most important thing here is it's a vision of scarcity that he's welling to accept. do less, travel less and go greener. the d.c. police force did this and others are doing it. it's very bad to hold our infrastructure hostage. >> gillian: dr. saphier, what do you make of this? >> dr. saphier: for me, i see -- it's sad to see that people are panicking again and hoarding the gas the way we saw with toilet paper. we need to have a message of calm down, this is going to resolve. but everything that you guys say, i support. i agree with. my big thing is i want to make sure that americans are moving in the right direction. we're getting the pandemic behind us. let's not panic because of this.
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>> gillian: have to leave it there. next, the unintended consequences of policing reforms. we'll debate that. the major cities are seeing sharp spikes in federal crime after federal courts ordered these changes in policing while at the same time, more cops are getting shot on the job. stick with us. (vo) conventional thinking doesn't disrupt the status quo. which is why t-mobile for business uses unconventional thinking to help your business realize new possibilities. only one 5g partner offers unmatched network, support, and value-without any trade offs. hooh. that spin class was brutal. well you can try using the buick's massaging seat. oohh yeah, that's nice. can i use apple carplay to put some music on?
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agreements. the increases in violent crime rates, for example, more than 60% in los angeles county suggest there can be unintended consequences to the policing changes that some people have demanded in the years since floyd's death. raymond, it's unintended but not unpredictable. >> raymond: this is the pandemic that we're facing beyond covid, which a dr. saphier said. we have the therapeutics, the vaccine. this is within reach. this politically created poverty and policing. we have a crime crisis in the united states. our police are fleeing. why? because we have created an atmosphere and culture where police are deemed racist. we have a defund the police movement and where the george floyd case is used to tarnish all policing. in new orleans, where i am today, crime is through the roof. we had 14 new recruits on the new orleans police force. 90 men and women left the force
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last year. so the retention is not keeping up. we have to figure this out. i saw a story today from south bend, indiana where a administrator, a teacher administrator through cops out of the school. every day they walk through the school. what are you doing here? she threw them out. this kind of demonization of police frightens the police away. they feel like their rights will be undermined and you're left with crime now exploding across the country. joe biden has to arrest this as president trump did. stand with the police. biden is in a unique position. he can bring the communities that have hesitancy about police, talk about vaccine hesitancy. there's a lot of police hesitancy out there. when you go to the black communities as i did here in new orleans, they will tell you, they want police on the street. that's who keep them safe when things happen. it's happening in those
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communities and in those neighborhoods. >> emily: we cover it here on this show. in new orleans where you're sitting, an event that was bringing police to the zoo and sort of an event, community i vent highlighting their good service and works was cancelled for fear of a triggering the community as you put it, the community that loved that event. kayleigh, this is all against the backdrop right now. we're in national police week. your thoughts. >> kaleigh: that's right. where is president biden acknowledging heros after president trump did standing at the police memorial. where is president biden? he's silent. i thought he was the great uniter and about to bring us together. that's what he told us on inauguration day. he noticeably silent in an important week. there's consequences. used to be called the ferguson effect. the demonization calling officers to pull back.
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now it's compounded by the pull back effect. we don't have a leader standing up and giving a national voice to the good work that police officers do. >> emily: gillian, part of one of the many issues with this blanketed extreme policies being put into place is that it undercuts the common sense meaningful reform that so many americans were behind especially in communities and police departments that were working together, for example, here in seattle as we were moving our way through our almost 10-year-old consent decree here. the judge said you defunded the police. this takes me back three steps. what are you thinking? >> gillian: the way i see it, emily, this breaks down into two parts, this threat or problems that police forces are facing right now, boils down to what
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raymond laid out. i would said it's anti-police sentiment that's been spinning and spinning out of control since the killing of george floyd now nearly a year ago. on the other hand though, to some extent an equally different problems, the budget cuts that are the predict of that sentiment. you know, for example, the nypd being underfunded by about a billion dollars last year. nobody knowing in advance where the cuts were going to impact the force, which divisions, which precincts in the city would be hard the hardest. that for america's biggest cities is almost as much of a threat to police officers on the payroll as the anti-police sentiment that is now being ginned up amongst a lot of americans. i leave it to you guys and people smarter than me to figure out which is worse.
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they're both bad. >> that's right. we know for example that the plain clothes division extinguished there, now the democratic candidates vying for the mayoral position in the city are calling to restore it. it's not a party thing. it's an american thing that people are calling and crying for safety -- >> even andrew yang, the democrat candidate. >> emily: that's right. up next, more trouble for andrew cuomo. critics accuse the governor of trying to redefine sexual harassment. stay with us. >> i just made you feel uncomfortable, that is not harassment. that is you feeling uncomfortable. veteran homeowners, home values are at all-time highs. you could have much more equity than you think! banks can loan you some of it. newday can loan you all of it! the newday100 va cash out loan. life... doesn't stop for diabetes.
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making others feel ways i never intended. yesterday a reporter pressed the governor to admit that according to the law his intentions don't matter. critics call his response jaw-dropping and alarming. here's what he said. watch. >> you can leave this press conference today and say, oh, the governor harassed me. you can say that. i would say i never said anything that i believed was inappropriate. i never meant to make you feel that way. you may hear it that way, may interpret it that way and i respect that. and i apologize to you if i said something that you think is offensive. harassment is not making someone feel uncomfortable. that is not harassment. >> emily: oh, raymond.
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this guy keep digging his grave wider and deeper. >> raymond: you almost wish there was a quarantine in new york to protect the ladies in new york state from this guy. he's like the bill clinton of new york at this point. every moment he confirms the charge with the things coming out of his mouth. this is a little -- he says this is not harassment. that's you feeling uncomfortable. this is like you saying this isn't physical abuse. those are just bruises. >> gillian: that's how you feel. >> raymond: he's subject to his own rule here. he signed a very stringent sexual harassment law. emily, you're a lawyer. is he trying to dance out of his own regulations and laws here? >> emily: i think he's trying to dance outs of his own liability in general. the laws weren't in effect at the time of these accusations that took place. doesn't matter. new york state still has among
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the most strict harassment laws in the country. the first sentence on a the a.g.'s website says unwelcome advances or comments, even a joke is harassment. it has nothing to do with you feeling uncomfortable and being the designator. it's crystal clear that all of this falls into that category. i don't need to say allegedly anymore. it's jaw-dropping to quote my original introduction to this segment that he's still defending it in this ridiculous way as he's under going over five investigations into his behavior in multiple arenas. dr. saphier, you're the new yorker among us. what are your thoughts on him as a governor and again, the hole that he's keeps digging himself in every time he opens his mouth? >> dr. saphier: this man is unbelievable. he continues to change the definitions as long as it fits his narrative and makes him come out as the good guy. he thinks he is the good guy when the rest of us are
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scratching our heads. you're right. harassment is not how someone interprets it. it's an unwanted comment, even a gesture that someone could feel uncomfortable with. when you have an older man in power and the majority of people making complaints are younger women in lesser positions, yes, there's a slippery slope of them feeling uncomfortable. the fact that he's just changing the definition on what harassment is hypocritical and dangerous and he's just wiping away people that have legitimate sexual harassment claims. they'll have fear of coming out now because they have someone like governor cuomo saying that's how you feel. doesn't mean that i harassed you. making victims feel more like victims and they'll be less likely to come forward against them. >> emily: right, gillian. he's writing his own script here by saying it turned on his intent. oh, i didn't mean to. that is part of the allegations
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that this climate and culture that he fostered there as governor, these partly why it was so toxic. he would brush-off anything and nothing matter, no consequence to the person matters because it's about what he intended which is it's no big deal. >> gillian: emily, tell me if i'm misunderstanding this. we have to do sexual harassment training here and are taught not only does the intention of the perpetrator not mat or but the feelings of the victim almost don't matter in the sense that what matters is whether this sort of crime for lack of a better word was perpetrated. meaning other people in the workplace can identified sexual harassment between two other people and take action. so there's not a lot of room for objectivity when it comes to this kind of stuff. the rules are cut and dry. what i'm saying here, even if a
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victim has not complained, it doesn't -- even that doesn't mean that sexual harassment didn't occur, right? it could still occur in the workplace. >> emily: you're right. there in new york state, if the victim -- even if the victim is like oh, it's okay. i knew he was kidding or it's no big deal, that doesn't matter. it can still be sexual harassment designated as such and fall under their local, state and federal laws against it. moving forward. former staffers for ellen degeneres reacted to her decision of ending her talk show after claims of harassment and she says she's the real victim. cell phone repair. did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? just get a quote at libertymutual.com. really? i'll check that out. oh yeah. i think i might get a quote.
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i'm john roberts. join sandra smith and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." >> kaleigh: former staffers for ellen degeneres are speaking out on her decision to end the show after 19 seasons. she couldn't make it to 20. the announcement came months that employees on the show claimed the toxic work environment with allegations of sexual misconduct, racism and intimidation. in an interview, she denied the allegations led to her decision. >> there will be people that think oh, ellen is leaving now because of everything that went on. >> if it was why i was quitting, i would not have come back this year. i really did think about not coming back. it did -- you know, it was devastating. i am a kind person. i really didn't understand it. i still don't understand it. it was too orchestrated, too coordinated.
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i have to say, if nobody else was saying it, it's interesting. i'm a woman. felt very misogynistic. >> this quote came out "this has been a long time coming." dr. saphier, start with you here. one of the employees told fox news that he said hi to ellen during her talk show. his words were this. he said i said hi to her. she looked at me like i was blacked out. after that encounter, he was told never to speak to her again. he went on to recount that a man that mopped the floor at the show was told to never speak to her, too. in fact, never did speak to her. ellen never spoke to that individual. if these are true, this comes in the context as someone that said "be nice" as she repeatedly
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said. >> dr. saphier: we want to separate ellen degeneres than the ellen show. a lot of the accusations have nothing to do with ellen herself. the things you're saying, nobody was allowed to speak to ellen, that does have a level of intimidation and makes feel feel uncomfortable should they be true. we set a dangerous precedent here. there can be high stress in a lot of these tv shows, when you're walking into the studio. and there's a big difference between sexual harassment, racism, real intimidation and someone being high stress, getting ready to walk on a set. so i think they need to look at these complaints very, you know -- individually. because i think it's a little unfair, to be honest. i think you don't cancel a show when you have some bad apples working on a show. what you do, you just replace those people. you identify the problem and you replace them.
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it's been almost 20 years. i hope she's does stand-up again. i enjoyed that more than her show. >> kaleigh: that's right. raymond, to you, one of the things that bothered me, this is towards staff. people working for her. security protecting her, putting their life on the line. >> raymond: well, she does have 255 employees. we should say that. also, i agree with dr. saphier. there's a level here. ellen is from new orleans. i know people that know her. he's very enter active with the audience. do you catch people on a bad day? probably. she's cancelling the show because the ratings are down. it's very hard to remain fun and doing a dance. disappointed we didn't dance into the segment. maybe next time. but it's hard to maintain that for 20 years. particularly when you're sensitive but have this huge outside fame, which she does. you'll remember, ellen was the
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canary in the coal mine of the culture on the cancel culture movement. remember, they came after her show, but they also came after her for sitting in a box with george bush at a game. remember? i think the personal toll of that may have taken some -- had some effect on her. maybe she clammed up around staff. when you're running an operation like this and producing multiple shows, people have bad days and good ways. i hope she continues on. i know she will. >> kaleigh: that is true. coming up, you can win a million dollars. you can get free school tuition, free tickets to a major league bay ball game. plus, free beer. i like that one. just to name a few give-aways if you do this one thing. that's next. ♪♪ i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know there's so many of you
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>> free fries when you get vaccinated? i got vaccinated. you are saying i can get this, these delicious fries? if this is appealing to you, just think of this when you think of vaccination. mmmhhh. >> nothing is appealing with talking with your mouth full, free fries and nyc joins the list of states and cities offering vaccine incentives. to name a few more new york is giving a shot at winning $1 million. in new york, free crawfish and breweries giving out free beer which i will always accept but dr. saphier, why not help the vaccine? why do you have to bribe us? >> dr. saphier: emily, these are fun and great to encourage people to go get vaccinated, but i will say i'm concerned the
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private sector as well as the cdc will have a level of discrimination against those, whoever reads and are choosing not to get the vaccine. the message needs to continue to be that next vaccines are safe and efficacious but not discrimination for those who have a reason are not getting the vaccine. >> emily: raymond, isn't this true a landlord offers free rent for newcomers? i pay rent every month, what about me? >> raymond: the hard sell may discourage people from vaccines. when i see those ads on tv come i will throw in a free ham and shell card if you bring the kids to get vaccinated. that worries me. i am concerned and i agree with dr. saphier. it confuses people. why is de blasio eating french fries? obesity is part of the problem. don't lead people down the path by giving them the obesity at once and the vaccine.
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a bad move, bad move. >> but they are shake shack fries. >> raymond: they are free? >> no, they are actually worth it. >> emily: it is amazing, raymond. thanks to everyone and we look forward to seeing you on "the ingraham angle" 10:00 p.m. eastern and thank you all so much and now here is "america reports." >> sandra: the cdc issuing game changing guidelines for fully vaccinated americans at the white house basement, crises on several fronts. it is all happening as president biden has a full plate with all-out war in the middle east. here at home and multistate gas shortage happening. a continued crisis at the southern border along with fears of skyrocketing prices of almost everything now inflation a concern as well as economic slow down. some republican critics questioning whether the cdc reversal a way of distracting americans from all of it.
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