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wanted it to be about so much more. they have embraced cheney's framing that the gop must reveal unproven allegations and risking her career because they believe she's fighting against the big lie and trump and allies believe cheney is stubborn but the press needs to honestly recognize what's at scale here. cheney is the rebel calling it lizism versus the power trumpism. i'm howard kurtz. this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ ♪ howie: have a look at the media pressure lifting all restrictions on vaccinated people. the press' remarkably coverage of the severe gas shortages by
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cyber-attack and ellen degeneres is ending after public pressure and after house vote today boot liz cheney, she spoke to reporters and began making the tv rounds. >> i will do everything i can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the oval office. >> a lot of people frame this as the battle of the soul of the republican party. >> it's a battle that we have to win because it's not just about the republican party. it's about the country. >> why should wyoming voters say reelect you when you're spending so much energy opposing him, so little opposing biden? >> i'm disputing your characterization of what i'm doing. i think it's really important for us to be as strong as possible in defeating the biden policies. we cannot do that if we enable a
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lie. howie: commentators on both sides praise or pummeled the vp's daughter. >> couldn't make her coward. >> the democrats and media are upset with liz cheney, of course, idea of republican leader is that trump is -- >> cowardliness that so many in the house have been exhibiting. >> liz, i know that you're loving all your liberal friends that are appreciative of you and praising on you. i hope that you enjoy the 15 minutes of worship from the left and the mob. howie: joining ben domenech and in north liz claman.
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ben, what do you make of liz cheney having gotten clobbered by her party and using media to launch crusade of donald trump and the media's role here. >> it's interesting because there was support for liz cheney a couple of months ago in the wake of her voting for impeachment. criticizing former president trump saying a lot of the same things that she was saying so what changed? what changed that people became of a mind within her conference, a conference that had backed her just, you know, a few months ago that she was no longer capable of being a member of leadership of the party. the name is the house of representatives and it does represent and i think at that point where she was representing the wishes to have people that elected her and voted overwhelmingly for donald trump and her state is a very valid one. i think in this context. the media is really making a mountain out of something that is going to not be considered a very significant political event
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ultimately. if liz cheney had done her job as conference chair, raised her money and done great at recruiting and the like and the press election, i'm not sure we would be having the conversation. instead she was well behind the other members of leadership in raising money and people felt like it's a key aspect of her job that she wasn't going to be able to that anymore, which republican donors are going to give money to liz cheney in support in an agenda that is solely defined by going after former president trump and criticizing other members of the party. you can be a member of congress and do that but you can't be a member of leadership. howie: liz claman, cheney is sure getting a heck of a ride from the media establishment that had such a hostile relationship with president trump. liz: i'm a little confused here because i'm actually looking at how the media operate and having been a member of the media for several decades, i can see this and i think this really goes on the shoulders in many cases of
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mccarthy. if you want to draw attention, call it out, have a vote for it and boot it and that's exactly what he did and quite frankly, when you talk about liz cheney's platform and what she's going for, i'm not defending liz cheney at all in any level, i'm simply saying she voted with president trump alongside his policies and proposals more than 90 times. so, you know, when you're talking about what is actually ringing honestly here, everybody knows the voters, republicans voters know that this caucus vote was simply about one thing, getting rid of liz cheney because she was calling out what she felt was a big lie and that was that the election had been stolen and all you need to do is look at the next step and that is that representative elise stefanik was chosen and she had voted not many times with president trump yet she flipped and simply said as she did just an hour ago on fox news, on sunday morning futures, donald trump is the leader of the
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republican party. howie: right. now, this is big news, ben in the star tribune. let's put the front page of the wyoming paper. is the media interested here in the battle with cheney, trying to put her at the center about a thousand times greater than a house leadership fight is for lots of average americans out there? ben: it's thousands and thousands and thousands of times greater. i mean, the reality you will talk later in the show about the media coverage of the gas crisis which is something that most americans care about. katie, talked about being in north carolina this past week and tuning into npr, tuning in to a lot of different news sources and hearing nothing about the gas crisis and hearing things about liz cheney but hearing nothing about the gas crisis. she had to turn over finally as you might expect at local fox affiliate. howie: right.
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ben: liz cheney is a lot about more than just her relationship with donald trump and the role he has in terms of the future about the party. i think it's about the relationships that she had with other members of the conference and if she had better relationships and been smarter about this. she wouldn't have gotten locked in an unwinnable conflict. i don't think she's going to speak for a significant portion of republican voters. howie: isn't donald trump pushing the story, day after day with a blizzard of statements and crime of the century and earlier liz cheney has no personality, she's a warmonger and look to watching her in dnc and the narrative as well. liz: former president trump's tactic is really interesting timing just as the middle east beginning to blow up once again,
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israel, gaza, et cetera. president trump used the warmongering comment because putting aside the irony that he co-opted the media very ugly profile of her father during the george w. bush administration where she pushed the iraq war, putting that aside, he's diverting attention in that regard. that's what he does. nobody should be surprised with the name-calling, et cetera. i have to say i did watch -- i watched everybody and today's show, good morning america. they led two days in a row with the gasoline pipeline crisis. each morning. so i just don't know exactly what people are talking about -- local news is different certainly but the fact that if you're looking at what kevin mccarthy has done. he has now catapulted her by putting her on this platform and enabling her to do this and she's not a shrinking violate. howie: he talked to reporters outside the white house and was
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asked about the 2020 election. >> i don't think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. ic that is all over with. howie: so, ben, kevin mccarthy i think would like to put this behind him and the majority of the republican party don't want to necessarily be fighting every day and i say to liz claman, if you have trump posting every day about the fake presidential election, he's not letting it go. >> i don't think he's letting it go and donald trump like it is kind of enemies, he picks them to go after and he picks romney and liz cheney and he wants to use them to make a point. this context, that's much broader than just the 2020 election. i think it's a dispute about the direction of the republican party, a direction that he really has adjusted and i think to the degree that kevin mccarthy elevated this. i think that facing that determination earlier regarding
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liz cheney and margaret greene. if cheney had wanted to be quiet after that and not stress so much her criticism of other fellow republicans, i think we could be in a very different circumstance today. she's going to be held up by the media and only to the extent she's useful to them in criticizing the republican party which is republicans who get the most attention. howie: it is a fair important to speak to the majority of the conference. would the media just rather focus on the war of insults an name-calling between trump and cheney rather than, for example, the pain-staking negotiations with the president and the hill over an infrastructure package? liz: listen, the shining object of the week, howie. that's all this is. they will move onto something else if there's a better narrative or something that they're hearing about from the american public. i would simply say on the
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big-tent comment that kevin mccarthy did say the gop party is a big tent. we want free ideas and free thoughts and people should feel free to speak up except when liz cheney decided she wanted to pick a different picnic under this gop tent. howie: right. liz: make no mistake. people aren't dumb. they did look at this, well, it's purely for that reason that she would not accept that donald trump's theory was that the election was stolen, that she is is out and now look what this is unlearned, be careful what you wish for, you may just get it. there's a new movement, howie, that you know that is being put together by a lot of the republicans and these aren't fly-by-night people, former governor chris christie, former homeland security who co-wrote the patriot act. matt boot, joe scarborough, former transportation secretary. that's what the media made them look at because next month they will have a big event and they say everybody is invited. howie: a lot of never-trumpers
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have media forms and i have to get a break here. ahead glenn greenwald in a case of cyber bullying. did the prez play a role in persuading joe biden and the cdc to lift all of those restrictions on vaccinated folks? ♪ ♪ ♪
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howie: finally good news. is media criticism and sometimes ridiculed for weeks, why was the vaccinated joe biden always wearing a mask outside, why did the cdc keep insisting on masks outside for vaccinated people. now the cdc relaxed overly
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strict guidance. >> it's not just the cdc, this was the media. >> i was shocked by this announcement. they went from one extreme to another and the major ten that's missing here is -- step is how do we know people are telling the truth. howie: the president and vice president walked out to repeat to the press. >> fully vaccinated people are at very low, low risk of getting covid-19, therefore, if you've been fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask. howie: ben, the media environment turned negative based on questions of anchors and reporters. do you think the media criticism was a factor here? ben: it was absolutely a factor and i think what you really saw
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was a decision accelerated by essentially a couple of bad news cycles for the white house, not just on this subject, but the economy. this is something that we have known for a long time. we talked before on this network about the contrast that you saw between what was happening in washington with -- with the president's address to congress at the same time that you had the first day of the nfl draft. you had the kentucky derby and the like and you had this depiction of completely different attitudes toward what normalcy looked like, this depressing, kind of post apocalyptic scene, vaccinated people who have had virus and masking up and people who look that are almost there and almost
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back to normal, et cetera, and i think the whole thing was motivate ad lot more by media criticism than anything else. howie: liz, donald trump says he deserves some credit on the vaccines. i've said that many times. just to mention, please. it's kind of ironic because the press spent so much time why isn't donald trump wearing a mask and turned in recent weeks why is joe biden constantly wearing a mask especially outside? liz: he wants credit. operation warp speed is why we have the vaccine. the cdc appeared to, i guess, not own up to their own science in that if you get it, then you will be okay and so, therefore, the pressure begin to mount from all sides and there have to be an incentive. if you want people to get vaccinated, you have to let them think and believe that their life will change for the better. we can remove the masks. i would simply say that none of
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us are epidemiologists and this was before the cdc announcement on thursday and some of them said, if you're in a crowded indoor space you may want to. it is a choice now. that's the good news. if you've been vaccinated, the problem is you can't tell who has been vaccinated and who hasn't. howie: i don't know why president biden announce the good news himself. but the cdc guidance was increasingly out of step with the lead opinion as well as common sense in my view, ben. ben: well, we have seen outside pressure play a role before when it came to advice and when it came to schooling even though we had plenty of research showing that, you know, masks in terms of schools, in-person learning was not something that was determinative in terms of the number of people getting covid in any school environment. that's something that we have learned for a long time and the reason why the rest of the world was able to go back to school
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well before americans start today reopen and this continues to be a problem, of course, for them and continued resistance to them. they'll be a faction of american who is still say it's irresponsible to do this and you are seeing the development that will play out in the coming weeks and months. howie: liz, briefly, i think the new york triggered wave of negative coverage that the cdc was misleading, up to 10% chance of getting covid outside when it was 1% or .1%, quick thought? liz: listen they pointed out the confusion, which is it, therefore, you start to see what the answers are. jen psaki was clear during a news conference, hey, we didn't even know that the cdc was going to make the announcement. either way, wearing a mask is now a choice and let's keep in mind. howie: bill mahr got vaccinated and nevertheless got covid.
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liz: 8 yankees. howie: liz claman. news outlets deliberately misled in the middle east and israel destroys a building housing the ap.
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howie: israeli military spokesperson says troops were attacking gaza and reported worldwide. israeli news outlets say it wasn't an accident but draw gaza fighters to vulnerable areas. joining us steve krakauer. steve in call with authorities, wall street journal and others request whether they had been turned into accessories to
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israeli military. >> this is another example why the press should be skeptical of power. at the same time there's another one too. what we have seen over the last 5 years is a deemphasis on foreign policy coverage particularly in the the middle east as time and resources are devoted to donald trump's tweets we get a lot of institutional knowledge when it comes to that region and i think that this is one example, lots of examples in the last few days of where this is coming to play. howie: and then we can put the pictures up. i'm sure most people have seen it by now. the israeli bombing destroying a building that housed the associated press and other media outlets, the ap president saying he's shocked and horrified and everyone given evacuation order so no casualties. hamas both military and civilian staffers in there and dispute about whether this was as many media organizations say an outrage. >> steve: yeah, i think the dispute is the story.
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this is another example of institutional knowledge. hamas is a terrorist organization that we know. will go and shoot bombs, rockets from hospitals or go and use children as human shields from schools and they have in the past also done the same when it comes to the press. so there was not a skepticism where it should have been yesterday in how it was covered when this happened. we know tommy, former obama foreign policy adviser said that he understands that hamas did, in fact, have offices there. we have seen reporting from others who have previously worked in the ap that hamas has fired rockets from that area as well and has reporting that hamas has offices in there and so what happened yesterday was exactly the kind of propaganda that hamas wants out there with american media talking about how, that it was -- that the the israelis targeting and absolutely not the story here.
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howie: ap executives say they didn't know, had no evidence of hamas but benjamin, netanyahu, prime minister saying this morning that evidence of this was shared with the u.s. intelligence and cast the whole story in a different light. i have about half a minute. >> it does. we are starting to see some of the trickle out today. you mention netanyahu, there is reporting that the israelis didn't notified the biden administration about this. this is where the story needs to go. this is a complicated story. it has been going on for decades, obviously and essential in the last few years we have not seen as much coverage on it. i think all media organizations should really start to slow down a little bit and start to focus on what is really happening here and really start to dive into the matter of it more. howie: it is unfortunate that the ap lost offices and equipment and all of that. steve krakauer, thank you for
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joining us on this break story. glenn greenwald and later the botching of the story.
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howie: it was a harmless mother's day piece by new york time columnist who said she got married earlier and doesn't regret having first child at 25 and led to have been trashed on
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twitter and to be triggered by extinction anxiety. brunick posted such attacks at one point saying this job isn't worth it. joining us from brazil, glenn greenwald, author of the new book securing democracy, fight for freedom and justice. congratulations on the book which has made a lot of wave. why do these angry people feel the need to viciously attack a journalist who was writing inflammatory things such as there's good reasons to wait for having children and good reasons not to. >> it's really bizarre. i think if someone had the fortune not to be plugged in constantly to elite media and political discourse and were to read the article and were to tell them afterwards that it created a huge controversy, they would look at you like you were
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crazy. the article was a mother's day testament to her own experience and happiness with motherhood along with concerns before child was born of what that would be like along with a very benign straightforward statistical in the united states, more educated women and women who earn more who live in large cities on the coast are waiting much longer to have children. that was all the column did and yet the vitriol produced was explained by two things. one that it is a lot harder for women and men to start families because of economic pressures after the 2008 financial crisis and took it on as kind of a rebuke to them. look, i've done this and you can't. but i think the other aspect of it was, it shows how cultural liberalism goes further and further from the feminism about giving them a choice and now about nothing should be done to encourage women who want to to be able to have children and
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identify as a wife and mother and i think there was a lot of anger trigged by that as well. howie: briefly, do you think this would make journalists, female journalists reluctant to write about anything personal given the people that want to engage in the vitriol? >> i think it's important that journalists be able to write about family lives and experience as a parent. we are all human beings even if we are journalists and some of the things that were just said not just her and her husband but kids that -- i'm not talking about random twitter trolls, established journalists were really ugly and it would deter me and think twice about writing something like that. howie: congresswoman cheney, taking on donald trump and losing her house leadership post. you write the whole media narrative about liz cheney is a fraud. pretty strong word, explain.
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>> so, you know, i think what has happened in the last 5 years is everybody in the media mostly looks at politics in a binary way, they are protrump or anti-trump. if you're anti-trump you're bad. because liz cheney is anti-trump, you're good and avatar of rule of law and honesty. in politics, when i started about politics in 2005, the cheney family was symbol of what liberals hated, things like guantanamo and executive power theory all of which liz cheney supports. there's an ideological fight over liz cheney represents and donald trump ran against and the newer maga movement of
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right-wing populism opposed to the bush-cheney policies completely whitewashed by narrative that anyone that opposes trump including liz cheney becomes heroine of american liberalism in the democratic party. howie: there were many, many media liberals who agreed with you during the iraq war, dick chin eye was seen as leading us into the a middle east fiasco, liz cheney worked in the state department during that administration and she continues, she's a separate political person, of course, but she continues rather hawkish foreign views. was there a mass amnesia, anybody who didn't like her, forget about all of that and just say, well, she's courageous because we agree with what she's saying about trump? >> yes. it's like history only began for these people on january 20, 2017. it's not just liz cheney, nicole wallace was literally the spokesperson for the bush-cheney white house and campaign is
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beloved liberal host on msnbc. they haven't changed their ideology at all. the only thing that they have in common is they are opposed to trump. that's what's disturbing and there are other issues in american politics besides you like donald trump or not. it's binary and simplistic and essentially suffocating every other debate. i still that neo -- neoconservatism and to have in politics. howie: you tweeted with perhaps hyperbole, if hitler returned and said he didn't like trump, he would appear in msnbc. >> even the people -- the most
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hated by liberals, the minute they say dislike donald trump, they become heros of the democratic, cnn and msnbc. the only issue through which they view the entire world. howie: john bolton and others come to mind. glenn greenwald. cyber hacking why it took days to question the biden's handling and earlier why ellen degeners is calling it quits. ♪
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howie: after the cyber-attack knocked out the pipeline that delivers oil across the east coast, new york times issued to readers that since the pipeline there's no longer gas lines in gas stations except city after city wasn't true. no media criticism of the biden administration. >> an emergency, if they ran out of weed, that would be an emergency. don't worry says "the new york times". none of this is real. it's a conspiracy theory. your eyes are lying to you, your hysterical. >> publicly the administration is saying no cause for concern here, but obviously the reaction that we are now seeing in the public and in the states is unsettling. >> yet, they've kind of say, well, it's not really a gas shortage, it's in the like the
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toilet paper, don't hoard it. that's going to make people feel good when they ran out of gas on the beltway. >> we expect the situation to begin to improve by the weekend and then to early next week. gasoline supply is coming online and panic buying will only slow the process. howie: joining us robby soave and sarah norman. robbie, how does "the new york times" blow this by saying no gas lines, i know people waited an hour in washington area and some gas stations are still closed. >> the tweet said there had been no line bees few you click through the article, there were pictures of lines in the article itself. i think this might be actually an example of not even just ideological bias but it's just kind of screwing up in a technical sense, right, the
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people who run social media feeds at news organizations sometimes are not -- are often not the same people who write the stories or take the pictures and i think they actually tend to be more ideologically bias than the reporters so they are often, their biases, this is why twitter is such a problem. their biases spill out more dramatically than what's in the literal cover itself. howie: sarah, president biden can't be blamed for the pipeline hacking attack, the shutdown and rise in gas prices. i'm struck by how much of the coverage the journalists would say. well, this is pretty bad but not raise any serious questions about the biden administration's handling of it. >> you know, i hear you on that and i think that the difference that we are seeing in the prez stories that are either harsh on him or forgiving of him are taking a different point of view and how far back they are looking. like if they are looking at just the last couple of months or in the fact that, look, we have
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known for more than a decade that our infrastructure is becoming increasingly vulnerable to cyber-attacks. i mean, that's why the obama administration introduced legislation to make us more able to protect ourselves from things like we saw this week. now, that was filibustered by republicans in the senate who said it cost too much money and didn't want to impose new regulations on private businesses. but now those same republicans who spent years blocking legislation that would have prevented this, they are the first ones to point fingers at the new biden administration and saying, hey, where is our cybersecurity. howie: right. >> now the republicans have turned a corner on this and actually want to get something done. we can actually get something done with bipartisanship by passing biden's infrastructure plan which -- >> howie: here comes the pro-biden pitch.
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[laughter] howie: robby, if this had happened last year, donald trump doesn't care about gas lines, donald trump doesn't care about shortages and why doesn't president trump confront putin and president biden got a question like that. >> it would be putin, putin, putin. that's what it was under the trump years. this is something that i've noticed. whenever the media gets something wrong or controversy that the democrats are responsible, the media narrative adapts the republicans are pouncing on this line, google the word pounce. that's the word that's used. mainstream progressive news outlets try to use is that, well, the right is using a legitimate thing to their advantage and it's bad that they are doing that. we see that when the media screws up something like
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covington, jussie smollett. the media got that wrong but the story is not how they got that wrong. why do you care we got that wrong? howie: both things can be true. sarah, a week later the washington post had this headline. biden administration struggles to limit political damage from gas shortage which is the first time there was talk of political damage and the story in part blamed republicans and fox news. well, it's a big story, lots of people couldn't get gas to go to work so it's not just the opposition, is it? sarah: i agree with you, it's the big story and every type of network should be covering it. i think what that article was trying to say is that it's been a guiding principle for republicans to -- to paint biden as the start of chaos and this is just one more example of it when we know that this problem was the cybersecurity has gone back for over a decade and the
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republicans have been the ones stopping it. but, again, now that we are all on the same page and see this as a threat, i hope that everyone work together to pass biden's infrastructure plan to solve the problem. howie: you only get one legislative pitch per segment. both sides are talking about it. we will see what happens. sarah norman and robby soave. thank you for being on a sunday. sarah: thank you. howie: ellen degeneres blames end of the show on misogyny.re ♪ . a plan that can help grow and protect your money. now or in the future. with an annuity in your plan to help cover essential expenses,
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howie: ellen degeneres is ending talk show after 19 seasons on
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the air after internal probe of mistreatment of the staff. >> i still don't understand it. it was too orchestrated and people get picked on four months straight and talk about toxic work environment and it's interesting because i'm a woman and it did feel very misogynistic. carley: well, i thought the interview with savannah guthrie.
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she said some of the headlines were click bait, turn the be kind lady to a mean girl. i don't know about her personal character and i don't know what to think about it. i think she made some good points and she's a likable person. the one thing that i do know that a lot of criticism happened after she sat next to former president george bush and defended relationship. howie: it must be hard to walk away after having sitcom to cancel after coming out she was gay. carley: it has absolutely been tarnished. she lost about a million viewers, nearly half of her audience because of these -- of the headlines, negative headlines. i think that the reasons she's
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stepping away are because of the ratings and the other reason is probably mental exhaustion. her critics went after her for everything. during the pandemic she was on -- i believe it was social media and she made a joke about sitting at home feels like you're in a jail cell and critics went after her because she's privileged and she lives in a mansion and equating her experience to being in jail when it's really just a turn of phrase. the end of her career, her walking lane this way is very unfortunate and a dark spot on her legacy. howie: i didn't realize the ratings has plummeted that much. could this be the end of this particular award show, at least on a major network? carley: i think it could be and the question is, is nbc canceling this award show next year, the golden globes because of the ratings because the ratings have been awful.
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this year the golden globes, i think, they hit all-time low or is it because like you said, because hollywood, it was revealed that the hollywood foreign press had no black remembers and i say reveal loosely because people in hollywood have known about accusations against the association for years in terms of shady dealing and lack of diversity which is why ricky durvais hosted about being racist. i take this all this shock with a bit of a grain of salt. howie: carley shimkus, thanks so much. carley: you bet. howie: sally busbey, experience from the cairo bureau and washington bureau and never appeared in any of handycappers list. we post our daily columns there
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