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mollie hemingway and in a virtual center seats, jason chaffetz, former utah congressmen. despite the latest guidance, at least five states and washington, d.c., are holding off on changing their mask mandates, and now nebraska governor pete are speaking out about that same day paul found out the same way everybody else did on the news. the cdc announcement came one day after the agency director appeared on capitol hill to defend the use of masks. here's what she said yesterday when she was pressed about it. watch. >> i can tell you it would've been easier if it involved a week earlier and i didn't have to go to congress, but i'm delivering it as the science is delivered to the medical journals and it evolves over the last week, i delivered it as soon as i can when we have that information available. >> emily: jason, miraculously

the science happened to evolve just last week and as we just saw this came as a blind side frankly to a lot of governors and some even alleged to the white house itself. to me this massive dysfunction or politics often one in the same. your thoughts? >> jason: i think the political polling came in and they said, time to change the mask mandate. there we go. i've got to tell you, the white house is in sales mode. they are trying to pass a $4 trillion, an addition to the other trillions of dollars, bill and soper biden to be out there with the visual, even though he's outside, he was at a cemetery, still wearing a mask! that's part of the signaling that the white house does to say, because we have a crisis we have to pass trillions of dollars of more spending. that is what lies underneath this. they've not been driven by

science and andrew cuomo will evidently open up new york on wednesday, but in california, that's not good enough. we will do this in june. it makes no sense. >> "the new york post" editorial board came out and wrote "insisting on a masks, despite the science is just partisan posturing gone mad." your thoughts? >> there is nothing that changed in the last week, month or year. governors are confused because they think this is all politics. the biden administration is having a horrible time right now. they had a horrible job. they realized if they don't get things open it's going to be even worse for them. there are all these problems overseas, crisis at the border. this is just a desperate cry for help. they know there's only so much,

get back to work. >> emily: molly mentioned propaganda, is this sudden, is this clear deflection and failure to communicate and explain that we saw just earlier from the cdc had occurred during the trump administration, what would the reaction have been? >> it would have dominated the white house press briefing and reporters would have demanded an exploration. admiral's law has the best .7 she says the science evolved as a deadbeat evolution showing the vaccine for various and it protects you from transmitting it, that science was around since april. when you go on the cdc's website, i double checked this, when you click the link that cites the evidence for the removal of the mask mandate, it

takes you back to a page. the science did not evolve. it's been there. just these questions about the degree of politicalization between the white house and cdc. when you have them coming out saying, teachers don't need to be vaccinated to go back to school. they say, that was in the first of all, she did mean that. and then we find out teachers union is meddling in the guidance and getting dressed before comes out! their politicalization, there is a precedent for it and the biden administration, was their politics, it seems so if you ask me. >> emily: we have a sound bite from governor ricketts that i would like to play for you to get your analysis. >> without talking to us as governors, you're losing and pacs because if we had known ahead of time on the tuesday

call, if we were made aware of this, we could have done advance planning to help make the transition more smoothly, to make sure were letting people no, this is something that will help you make the decision to get it. the announcement comes out as a surprise and then you've got varied responses across the country. everybody's wondering what is new. >> harris: there something so key that he just said there. he's obviously from nebraska. if they had just let us know. i think people feel that. jason chaffetz said it this way. the white house now is in sales mode. i don't think it's that good. i think there and purchase mode. they don't know what to take back, they're not sure what they want what they bought in some of what they bought is uneven communication, not just with us,

but with the leadership of the country, the governors. you mentioned in new york, we will follow the cdc guidelines for new york state. may 29th, massachusetts, we are going to follow the same thing for him. it's haphazard, it's not based on a unifying idea of science and that keeps us all divided. therein lies the political food that's given by dividing. we are easy to manipulate, but i have another question. how many people do you think are hanging on the word to figure out after we get science, about masks, fully vaccinated, what do you think is hanging on the word of this administration to tell you you don't need a mask? when we been told that now for quite some time. when you watch the president of the united states not taking his own guidelines from the cdc, who

do you think is listening to that? it's confusion unless you don't hear it. and unless you are the true american public that we know we are. you trust us with everything else in the country, we've had to educate kids, we've had to do a lot this year. we are capable of so much more than being manipulated. >> emily: jay's and, interestingly about these guidelines, the cdc was sure to create a huge caveat, they said tribal, local, any regulation that is more strict and that wan interesting pushback in terms of the omnipotent position they've had this last year where everything looked to them for guidance. now it seems they're pushing it all back downhill. your thoughts on that? >> they've lost credibility and when there something to be listened to i don't think people will listen.

this administration should fire dr. fauci, i don't think anybody has trust in him. his time has come and gone. he's more interested in doing media relations. they need to go back and look at schools. i don't understand why they're still a mask mandate. kids can't go back to class. take the mask off a 3-year-old getting on an airplane! they keep telling us the error is the cleanest air on the planet and yet everyone has to wear a mask. it's ridiculous! they've lost control and it's time for them to just be reasonable. do know where i hope we go? i hope we go towards asia. i don't want to shame people, but let's not mock people who don't wear masks. before the pandemic, this is the normal. if you want to wear a mask then you wear it! don't shame people. let it loose! we took the vaccine. we don't need anymore masks!

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>> emily: the biden administration has reportedly pulled more than $2 billion out of covid response programs to spend it on the shelter for the thousands of unaccompanied migrant children that a flooded across the u.s. border this year. according to politico the department of health and human services redirected $850 million

that congress originally allocated to rebuild the nation's strategic national stockpile. that's the emergency medic medil reserve. another 850 million is being taken from a area and tended to expand testing. it was just last week when president biden's own health and human services secretary testified about the importance of the national stockpile. >> we have to make sure what we know is in the stockpile. we have to know if it needs the 21st century crises with the national pandemic that we've had. this is going to be a critical component of being able to respond adequately and quickly to any future health care crisis. >> jason, they went on to say that we needed more funding for the strategic national stockpile. let me get this straight, they strategic national stockpile is so important that we need

hundreds of millions of dollars, at a time when they're taking a hundred and 50 million out for legal immigrants on southern border? how does that make sense? >> i remember when you are in the white house and donald trump wanted to redirect money and they gave nothing but trouble to the trump administration, saying how outrageous it was that the president was going to deal with the crisis. that was by the millions of dollars. it's normally customary for congress to redirect money and inform congress, but it's usually for unspent funds. this is not normal. this is billions of dollars in a situation that was highly preventable. they had an open borders policy. they invited these people to come in and now we have something like 20,000 unaccompanied minors, so many of them have covid, it was a

problem they brought upon themselves. the mixed messaging, when you have the secretary of health and human services who doesn't understand what the white house is doing, there is a serious coordination and lack of professionalism they are in that white house. they are on totally different pages. >> totally different pages. the 2.1 billion being reallocated is more than what was allotted in the last two fiscal years, i wonder, is this a mission that they do have a mission although they won't admit it? >> it's been a crisis since even back during the campaign when biden said he would have no problem with people crossing the border. that was a strong message. once he was elected, that send signals. this is another area that was stable.

when you create policies and you have the rhetoric to tell people to come, there are consequences and one of the consequences is the amount of money that has to be spent. i think a lot of people were told that joe biden would be a moderate, that kamala harris would be a moderate and so they were thinking if they voted for him they would get the same excellent policies they love during the trump administration. so much to improve the economy, peace in the middle east, then they wouldn't have to deal with any mean tweets. instead we are over a hundred days in and people are stunned by how quickly everything can deteriorate. domestically, cyber terrorism, unemployment, inflation, the horrible disruption in the middle east, these things are happening quickly and in this case it's a great example because it's so openly self-inflicted, this wound up telling people to come, leave their children and now we have to pay for it.

>> that's exactly right and going to the stockpile, i remember in the administration where there were scary times. it was before i arrived, but officials told me, we thought if we didn't produce more ventilators, we thought that would happen. don't you think they should prioritize putting ventilators aside for pandemic preparedness. >> whatever therapeutics we still don't have that we need. if you want to repurpose money, that's a good category. if you're going to start saving people. we can save people differently now. we know being on your back with a ventilator can sometimes speeded up. you have to rotate people and take the pressure, may be it's a respirator situation and not a ventilator. i'm not a doctor, but i talked with a lot of them. the therapeutics and what we do to save lives for people who get

covid-19 is where we need to have our focus so going forward we have learned something from the pandemic that can inform us on treating all sorts of things. everything has a variance now. maybe you will have to up your therapy game if exactly what you were doing from the original novel coronavirus needs a tweaking. why not repurpose money? my question has to do with what we are focusing on in terms of why everything change so quickly. i loved molly's question because it's driven by emotion. they wanted a flip of a switch and the switch said "tromp" and if they can get to the wall, not his wall, let a wall that had a switch and flip it, that's why it's going so quickly. did anybody bother to look at the transition? you and i were talking about this.

there was transition information, a lot of it was about the border. were they listening to that? if you flip that switch it will get dark in here for everybody. did they listen? >> kennedy: they did not listen. emily, to wrap this up. we should -- biden more than anyone should note the importance of not taking money from covid and giving it to illegal immigrants because with the trump administration, what they inherited was no respirator! they weren't there! there were few of that. shouldn't he know this? he was in government before he came in. >> of course, but what we are watching is an emergency bumping and this second emergency is one of his own making. they led the administration for families and children from 2013 and a half i can read you briefly what he said, they been

in this situation to expand capacity and emergency capacity is much more impressive. we spoke about the shelters, $775 per day per child and that's the tip of the iceberg for these groups let alone the absorption. plus puerto rico. he said you can't stay there for a waiting list or we will show up. there is literally not a choice. that's what the american people need to realize, not only is the situation created by the biden administration but then they have zero choice of how to handle that which is why the costs are skyrocketing and they have to divert funds. of course here, approval to the stark contrast, they were hammered for it. >> exactly right. what hypocrisy. far left democrats are slamming israel. of course they are. president biden's response to a growing conflict. next, with the deepening party

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>> our message is sometimes we have to step back from politics, we recognize and agree that watching these palestinian children, these families, the fear you see in the eyes of the israeli people, it's heartbreaking, we want to bring an end to the violence, we want to de-escalate. the most effective way we read if you catch what they said, you have to stand back! that was in response to senate democrats urging president biden to call for a cease-fire, they will stand back. what just happened. what is she saying?

the far left must be throwing their sandwiches across their lunch table. >> this is the biden administration leading from behind, a quiet diplomacy when there is an active engagement, thousands of rockets being fired, any jewish member of the united states who supports the biden administration in this setting, you've got to be kidding me, it's time for the allied states to be vocal, you will understand that joe biden, when you get rid of energy in the united states, gas prices, they get money and that money is funneled to hamas and suddenly there is a war, what you think was going to happen? this is preventable and the united states should take a tough stance, not just be quiet and say, we will listen and see how things go. that's not the united states of

america that people want. it's >> harris: if you are listening, and the house as well, those far left members. hearing jen psaki saying they are not going to do anything is not what they are hoping for either. the point i'm asking about, that's the opposite of what they want. they are hoping the united states will force a cease-fire. it's almost like there on the side of the hamas terrorists right now. they just slipped this down the middle and no one is eating that aoc rashida tlaib the far left in the there is one language.

the language of strength they understood when he ripped up the field fence that were not going to get billions to iran to go to hamas and then wage these deadly wars against israel. they understand that. they understand weakness. immediately upon taking office you have biden green lighting the funding, exploring the iron deal, what you have, hamas is seizing on that weakness? >> harris: it just felt to me as she's speaking, it was a walk back. it had to be. for all the reasons that she is pointing out. if you are bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, the far left and you been speaking up, what does this say? you will spend money to help israel, quiet diplomacy, i mean, do they just find out that no,

they're not wearing the pants? i don't know. what do you make it? >> first off, paying attention to what has been happening, it's horrible to see and everyone look and feels awful about, we wish there would be peace in this area and we pray for peace. i do think as it relates to american politics, it does show a difference between this foreign policy and the biden foreign policy which is similar to the obama foreign policy. there are very similar on this. immediately after being inaugurated, returning to the political groups, they didn't like that. 200 billion to the lee palestinian organization. now were having this situation. do you want to have a strong

group of people who can check the power or not in the biden administration wants to return to that old way of looking at it. where they control the region. it's kind of falling apart very quickly. these economic agreements, things were going very well. when you change your policy. it does result in peace. >> you didn't change the policy, you told the terrorists it's time. by the way, we have a banner up with working on cease-fire. the white house press briefing. this is not very quiet. he says it's going to go on. they want to make sure they don't have the capacity,

palestinians who were caught in the middle of some of were running the country don't have the ability to kill israelis around the border. >> i think it's a good response. it's a defensive system so they can shoot down these bombs that would otherwise kill and do that to untold numbers of people, when israel's right to exist, you can see why it's a tumultuous fight. this was not a problem with donald trump. he understood peace through strength. making sure that iran come of the largest site sponsor of terrorism in the world was not

funded. when they decide, let's make sure they are and they have funding, guess what happens? >> i want to reiterate what jen psaki said. our message is sometimes you have to step back from politics. how do you think that's received on the hill? >> poorly if people think this is a reaction in line with the administration. what i didn't hear was a condemnation, i did not hear a condemnation of the spate sponsor of terrorism funding this. i didn't hear a condemnation of the palestinian authority's encouragement of this, nor did i hear a plan of action that would work. diplomacy didn't work through the prior 47 years of service. the approaches were seen, with the emergency at the southern border. they want to make the root causes, things that do not work,

this is an emergency situation and they need israel. i also think it demonstrates the party that might break there back in 2022, even for california congressman who introduced a bill last month before this conflict calling out palestinian authority's with blatant anti-american imagery and content. we need to look at this. this administration is funding it! it's clear what position they should take, what is not clear is if they will actually take it. >> harris: all i can look at now is that border, that life picture we been watching and the word order to the south and now with strongest allies in the middle east, it's something they seem to stumble on. they can't figure out how to handle it. police officers across america are risking their lives every day. we will show you what's happening.

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>> harris: police across the country are coming under attack. in birmingham, alabama, four police officers well shot while executing a search warrant. they kill the suspected gunman, all four officers thankfully are expected to recover and in chicago, two cops were shot yesterday treated and released from the hospital, and organizers of new york city's pride parade have decided to ban the nypd from participating until 2025 saying they want to make it a safe space for people who feel threatened by police. the president calls the move

shameful. look at all that video that we had with police officers right next to the pride flag, some of them carrying them. i mean, that's like saying, oh, you know, we are going to deal with any nypd because of lack people. how many groups are they going to segregate out? this is offensive and hurtful. jason? >> jason: to the officers injured in alabama and chicago, hearts, prayers and thoughts. to the officers serving in new york city, my heart goes out to them. men and women to serve their community and protect those people. it shameful that it's evolved to that point where the people that are preaching the most tolerance are the least tolerant that i can think of. as i look at that situation i

think, if you want to live in a world without police, try it. next time there is a emergency don't dial 911, don't call the police, phone a friend. see how that works out for you long-term. >> harris: maybe they can fight the bad guys themselves. i hope there is video of that. molly? >> are corrupt media has spread a lot of propaganda about police and policing and it's true that there is room for improvement, sometime major room for improvement when it comes to policing of communities. it's true that everything you've heard about what's happening with policing is untrue. the threat posed by police officers is of course very low. the millions of interactions they have that an end peacefully. how much they help people and the lies told by the media are

affecting people in profound ways. not just that cops aren't allowed to be in a pride parade, it's that violent crime is skyrocketing across the country. because of the lies and it needs to stop. they need to tell the truth. >> harris: you don't have to go across the country to see what's happening in nypd. shootings are up by 86% in the last year. what about the gay meant and women. where are we going here? >> apparently not and that goes to the point i always make witches police officers are part of our communities. this is dividing it further. my heart breaks for officers who have fought so hard to have their identity recognized under being shunned by a group not

only that they are members of, but within their own town and community. this is shameful and i agree with you. a quick point about those officers, that was while executing a search warrant. we covered national police week, he lost his life in california while executing a search warrant. these volatile situations that protections are in place for within the department and now to the point about propaganda, we are seeing now the effects which is losing officers lives. >> kayleigh: the officer said they are going to show up and protect that parade, this reminds me of they want to ban guns but they're fine having people with guns to protect them. they want to ban officers, but they're fine with them showing up to protect them and that is just it, police always show up and protect.

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>> we are expecting to hear from president biden any moment now as he delivers progress, dr. nicole saphier is on deck to react. israel watch a new air strikes, the acting director under president trump will weigh in on joe biden's next foreign policy move. and for work to welfare for the thracian announcing will receive monthly child tax credit payments beginning in july. what it means for you and your family, our panel will debate. big two hours coming up on the top of the hour. >> a new me to controversy regarding bill gates, "the wall street journal" states they decided the company foundem its board as they investigated his alleged affair with a microsoft employee decades ago. a spokesman said he set down on

his own and that it had nothing to do with the investigation. meanwhile sources tell "the new york times" he pursued several women who were going to the charitable foundation. that led to a "uncomfortable work environment." molly, i would like to start with you. the questions being asked are, did this billionaire titan, has he gotten off too easily especially by stepping down in his own accord? will the past >> anytime you, i try noto accept them. a lot of this is based on anonymous source income i have no problem belief is a dbq, but i try to remember that if anything is that when people are going through the verses.

it's wise to make sure you have your facts straight. i find it fascinating that for the last year he was presented by so many people as like the be-all and end-all when it came to how to handle the coronavirus. he was put up on this pedestal, like it helped with people and data research, talking about vaccines, and now all the sudden he is divorced and were getting a flurry of these stories and it seems kind of weird. maybe we can have more balanced coverage going forward. also remember to have some skepticism when people are going through divorces and claims are being made. >> emily: sort of that adulation versus a immediate throwing away. hopefully he will receive the benefit of the doubt as more humanize look at him and the good work is foundation does, albeit not infallible. your thoughts?

>> jason: i totally agree with molly. i don't think he will get the benefit of the doubt. i think he was lionized as a baroque person on issues he knows nothing about and the number of nerd jokes, innumerable, classically, allegedly, asking somebody out in an email sounds like a nerd bill gates, but you can't date the staff? you can't do it! date somebody else, but not somebody who works for you. doesn't everybody understand that? >> your thoughts? >> i totally agree with my colleagues here. take it with a grain of salt, divorce proceedings. that being said, poor melinda gates, if any of this is true that he cheated on her with an employee and then apparently to one reporter with an island or

vacation with an x of his and people said he wrote a pros and cons list before he proposed. if one of those things is true, poor melinda gates because no woman deserves to be cheated on. we don't know her role, but no one should cheat on anyone, bottom line. >> emily: the reports say it was she who called for the investigation, she was dedicated to preserve the integrity of their $15 billion foundation. next up, penn state gets woke. while the school plans to ban traditional terms for students used for generations. stay with us. ♪ ♪ because iof you here's so may who have served our country honorably. whether it's 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give our veterans is eligibility for a va loan

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>> critics on social media slamming penn state for going woke. the university's faculty has voted to replace traditional

terms for students with gender-neutral titles. sophomores and freshmen will be first and second air. and upperclassmen as upper division. the faculty senate says the old terms can be seen as sexist and classist. penn state says the decision only describes two course description and notes that othe schools have taken similar action. parents, this to me just seems crazy. >> as a parent i hope that both my kids will continue to get great grades, but may be well t get this far. the course description as such that if you fail all of it, you're still brilliant, are we going to change every word? i'm going to quote my friend from last hour, penn state play in the big ten, are we going to take that, how far are we going with this? >> well said by jimmy is usual.

coming to you, jason, your former colleague nancy pelosi changed gender terms in a piece of legislation at the beginning of the term. to get this is so wrong it's fundamentally wrong. you can follow the logic amount my dad was penn state nittany lion. the cheerleaders are called the planets. it's ridiculous. >> emily, your thoughts? could keep the fact that two jason's point that this is just the course description just speaks to the performative nature of those very this is an actual change, this isn't meaningful change. what else was brought up during that decision committee meeting was all those list students on psychological and health services talking about the spiking trend of studio suicida ideation and depression and more . those of the things that deserv attention and action. >> molly, quick last thoughts? >> i think there are so many

proms with people having problems with men. there are so many desires to change words that have anything to do with men, men are great commitment are wonderful and we need to quit hating. they have done a lot of great things for western civilization. >> exactly right. thank you to everyone here. now here is america reports. >> emily, thank you. alive like now at the white house where president biden is set to announce the united states will be sharing an additional 20 million vaccine doses with foreign countries over the next six weeks. this is made groen's and concerns on americans and their 20s and reports over the cdc mass guidelines. >> coming up, dr. nicole saphie will wait in. and former acting intelligence chief will be here at the top o the hour.