sandra. >> sandra: got it. thanks for all three of you joining us, a good healthy conversation and debate as promised. thanks for being here. i'll be back here again tomorrow for neil. you can catch me with john roberts every week day at 1:00 p.m. eastern time for "america reports." that's it for us. "the five" starts now. >> hello. i'm dana perino with greg gutfeld, jesse waters and dagen mcdowell and juan williams. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." president biden trying to project confidence while some in the white house are worried what lies ahead. concerns over the economy. political allies are faulting the white house for mixed messaging and growing concerns about inflation. some economists think the

president's spending plan could be too big. the gas crisis the biden administration told americans would soon go away is still happening. in washington d.c., 71% of stations are out of gas and other states are still experiencing shortages. so while warning signs may be flashing, president biden is telling americans there's nothing to worry about. >> we've gone from stagnation to an economy that is growing faster than it has in 40 years. we've gone from anemic job creation to record creation for a new administration. none has ever created this many jobs in this time frame. progress is undeniable. >> when your allies are complaining about your messaging, that points to a fact problem, not a messaging problem. >> greg: first of all, i had no idea that it was national roadwork day. >> it is, as a matter of fact. infrastructure week here on "the five." >> greg: you're wearing the official color of their sign. i think that was really

admirable. you need to support them. >> i try to participate. >> greg: i was going to make a difference comment but the producers said i should shut up. look, there's two things that biden says. he says the economy is growing faster in nearly 40 years. that he also inherited an anemic economy. but it forces everybody else when you hear that to do the cleanup. you can't fact check that. you have to do a complete fact sex change. the two facts that he's pushing are only positive if you pretend the pandemic didn't exist. the economy was anemic because of the shut down. to make that your punch is pathetic. i think that the reason why you don't see him or anybody in the media too worried about the gas stuff is because they don't drive. it's really is stupid. i'll make a generalization about this. most people in the media don't

drive. they don't know how to pump their own gas. the problem is they're not aware of the people around them that need gas that rely on fuel. the truckers, the amazon delivery people that send -- bring your pilates mats, the driver that brings you your thai food. so you may not drive, but other people are doing the driving for you. >> dagen a lot of the concerns about the economy have been theoretical for a long time like the possibility of inflation or shortages and those things piling up. from your perspective, is there concrete evidence of any of that? >> yes. just remains to be seen how much people's expectations are. once you see the inflation, that's when the high prices are here to stay for a really long time. i've argued this is joe biden's america. the real world consequences just showed up a hell of a lot faster

than the democrats expected just in time for the mid-terms. that's why they're worried. whoops. we're getting to see where this bidarian brilliance will take this country. open borders, done. happened quickly. the only problem is, the democrats couldn't million the optics. gas lines. biden promised to transition away from the oil industry. half of the infrastructure plan is aimed at eliminating fossil fuels. he killed the keystone pipeline day one. and jen granholm, the energy secretary says if you just drove an electric car, you wouldn't be having a problem were the gasoline shortages. on top of that, you have government handouts and run-away spending that is an extra $300 for unemployment. that's nothing compared to the four ginormous entitlements. universal pre-k, free child car, free community college and paid family leave that biden has plans to implement but you don't

have to work for them. how do you do it? the federal reserve keeps printing money, buying up the debt. what do you get? crushing inflation that is a regressive tax on people that choose to work. >> so when you go to store to buy things, it cost more. it's like a tax. so juan, this is the cover of the "new york post" today. it says that joe biden is proving even more of a master of disaster than jimmy carter. i'm assuming you think that is too strong. a chance to talk about that. >> juan: i like tabloids as much as the next guy to catch my attention as i'm walking past the news stand. but it's not real. let's just take a look at the public opinion. public opinion polls, joe biden is well over 50% in almost all of the polls. in a.p., like 60% approval. that is just the reality touch. you think about his policies in terms of dealing with covid or in terms of his infrastructure plan.

again, the american people like these policies. they like the plan. so i think yeah, he has his critics but the big one in terms of the polls, dana, is that for the first time in four years, most of the american people say the country is on the right track. that is such an optimistic positive way of seeing what is going on. joe biden deserves credit for it. i'm a driver especially on weekends. i don't have to drive during the week. on the weekends, i get out and about. i have gas in d.c. this weekend. most of the gas stations in virginia and maryland, adjacent jurisdictions, they have gas. so i think most people understand, this wasn't the work of any policy. this is the work of hackers. hackers from russia. so the fact that it's -- everything is being resupplied, things are getting better is a sign again america can adjust when difficult times, when turbulence hits.

but you know, just overall, i want to just respond to what i heard. i think the economy is going from zero standstill because of covid, we put it in a sleep essentially and now it's coming back to life. it's going from standstill to hyper speed and there's turbulence. you may not have your chick-fil-a sauces. you may have a shortage of ketchup here, lumber there. it's like a take-off when you hit a turbulence. every big sign, stock markets, treasury bonds, all good stuff. >> jesse, that was like winding you up. i'll let you go from there. >> jesse: yeah. juan is not panicking. the white house is. you slaw the biden white house doesn't panic? there's three reports that say they're panicking that means it's ten times worse than they're saying. biden is probably having his dog bite people he's so angry. the reason why inflation, juan, is such a political killer is

because it affects the left and the right equally. it affects the poor and the rich unequally. so it gives rise to populism. something that joe biden barely tamed and is still boiling beneath the surface. forget about what it can do. sets back countries years. it happens because you spend and print too much money. so we've asked for it. joe biden's $300 weekly bonus is now creating a high unemployment situation. you combine inflation, high unemployment, you get stagflation. it sounds good to say but a horrible things to experience. the only thing you can do to beat stagflation is raise rates and stop printing money. when you do that, the economy suffers. so what are they going to do? joe biden has to act.

the longer you wait, the harder it is to take care of. joe biden's tool box is limited because anything he tries, the left will freak out. if he says hey, republicans, maybe i'll lowter cost of my plan, they'll freak out. if he said let's stop the border influx so we can raise wages, left will freak out. if he says, you know, energy producers, let's try to increase supply, take some pressure off, left will freak out. eventually fed will have to jump in. they're going to have to raise rates. it's going to hurt the economy. biden will do just what barack obama did. blame his predecessor for the bad recovery. >> remember that? get a mop. by the way, greg, i wore this in honor of your logo. >> greg: i thought so. it's that or circuit peanuts. >> you like those? >> greg: no. i hate them. >> dagen? >> delicious. aim red neck though. >> up next the white house

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♪♪ >> greg: yes! more confusion over mask mandates. republican governors said they were caught off guard by the cdc's change to the rules last week. big businesses are split on what to do about people covering their faces. former surgeon general jerome adams said biden screwed things up. >> the cdc made the right play call. but they fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line. the communication was just quite frankly abysmal on this. we were completely blind-sided by this. there was no nuance. you got whiplash from last week to this week. so there needs to be improvement in communication. the science is sound. >> greg: president biden not helping to clear up the confusion. >> only those that are not vaccinated will end up paying the price.

the vaccinated will continue to be protected against severe illnesses but others may not be if you're not vaccinated. some people may want to continue to wear masks. even if they're fully vaccinated. that's a decision that they can make. some businesses may want to continue to require wear masks. let's be kind and respectful as we come out of this pandemic. >> greg: juan, i listened to that -- turn off your phone, dagen! [laughter] all right. like when you listen to biden, there's like hey, do it if you want, do it if you don't want. we've said this before, it's up to americans to lead because we cannot be sued, we cannot be cancelled. is it time, juan, to start burning our masks like they burned bras in the 1960s? >> juan: i'm trying to make -- we can't be sued, so why should -- i'm confused -- why

did you say that? >> greg: corporations are worried more about covering their butts their faces. score. >> juan: okay. i got it now. from what i saw a lot of people are still concerned even though the cdc guidance came out. people have concerns about protecting themselves and their families. i can understand it. i thought it was good news today in the little bit that we just heard from biden, he said that for the first time now, you know, the cases -- infection rates are down in all 50 states. vaccinations he said were at 60% of the american people. at least one shot. that is fantastic. i think that is evidence that we're making progress. so i mean, i heard -- i hear the critics saying why isn't biden telling people that they can do without the mask if they're vaccinated? he's been slow to tell us to

take off the mask. now people say hey, i think he was too fast to tell us to take off the mask. so at some point hey, maybe this is just politics. i'm getting dizzy trying to make sense of what the critics are saying. >> greg: i don't know, dagen. i haven't heard a person said he's been too fast with anything. we predicted this before. >> dagen: the keystone pipeline. >> greg: absolutely right, yeah. the spokesperson for pepperidge farm goldfish is right on that one. dagen, we predicted any time there's a surge or surprise case, the media will kick into their fear mongering, profit models like bill maher has been diagnosed with covid after he got the test. that's got everybody scared that got the vaccine. we're always going to go through this. >> dagen: i ignore any story like bill maher. i ignore it like i do his show. i hope he's okay. sure he is.

he's vaccinated, correct? the democrat governors and lori lightfoot was not happy with this mess out of the white house. they weren't consulted and starting to lose that kind of control and power that at least some of it that they've accumulated in the last year. some of these republican governors that are complaining about the announcement out of like oh, it's too fast. stop whining. you shut down an economy, a state overnight. this is simple recommendations. it's mask on, now mask off. be nimble about it. by the way, california is taking a month to implement this mask guidance, the cdc guidelines. so i guess that is based on how long people still wore those i'm with her t-shirts. >> greg: yes, i still have mine. remember, i got one. i got one in ohio. it was beautiful.

dana, is it the -- are people hiding behind this abundance of caution when it's an abundance of fear when it's litigation? >> dana: yeah. we've been talking about liability protection for a long time. basically these companies, if you -- in a way, if they were waiting for the cdc to say that if you're vaccinated, you don't have to wear masks anymore. so that actually i do think gives some companies like the ones that we put up on the board target making the decision today to say okay, the cdc said this. the criticism about the cdc and the moving too fast is coming from the left, from the scientists. even though i know dagen, you're right, some of the governors were complaining about that. it seems like all of a sudden the government is saying business, you land this plane. you figure it out for us. that might be okay. i think the one thing that i really like to get some answers on is just last week, rachelle walensky, the head of the cdc

testifies in front of congress. they're grilling her about the mask mandates. she's just stalwart. we need to wear a mask. then wednesday night they tell the white house it's okay now? then they tell -- wait till thursday morning to tell the president and he rolls this out at 1:00 thursday. to me, the science didn't change in the last four days. what changed is the political winds. i would imagine that -- i'm not against the decision that they made or the announcement. but we should be honest about what changed here. to me it was the politics. >> greg: jesse, don't you find it strange that you can never predict a political issue that becomes kind of like a phenomenon? the fact that the mask is a focal point that creates so many different -- two factions with some other ones in between. it is interesting that it becomes more of a symbol. it's not a political symbol. it's individual freedoms.

>> jesse: you're right. the country is scared or confused. here's why. i went to a wedding in nashville. you get on the plane. the cockpit tells you to keep the mask on. the stewardess feeding food and beverage so half of the plane has their mask on. then you can't go to school. you go to the bathroom and grinding on someone to get in the aisle seat but you can't dance. i get down there and vanderbilt is having college graduation. they know the transmission is nothing outside. the college president is vaccinated. the students double mask broad daylight, get up there, wave and then they mail them their diplomas in the mail. on the way home, i go through security. i have to take my shoes off. because the shoe bomber.

really? they pull me aside for additional screening. they wipe me down to see if i have explosive residue on my hands. like i jihad jesse or something. you can cross the certain border and they will buy you a bus ticket to new york. so i get to new york, i turn on the news. there's like a slashing spree on the subway. cuomo says hey, don't forget to wear a mask on the subway. he's jailing people for not social distancing and touching every girl he sees. his partner in crime, bill de blasio is bribing people to get vaxed with fast food. obesity is the number one thing to get the coronavirus in the first place. so you have people confused or scared and politicians pit you against each other to win elections. >> dana: craig, in tsa's

defense, jesse looked rough monday morning with the glasses and everything. >> jesse: guilty. >> juan: i think jihad jesse will get a repeat on this show. >> greg: i see a coffee mug. ahead, far left democrats are slamming israel with the grossing conflict with hamas. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ comfort in the extreme. ♪♪ the lincoln family of luxury suvs.

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strikes. the white house says israel has a right to defend itself. but members of the squad like aoc are smearing one of america's closest allies like this. apartheid states are not democracies. wow. bernie sanders is urging that we cut foreign aid to israel. >> their coalition includes people who are overt racists. when you have the united states of america putting almost $4 billion a year into israel, we have the right to demand that they respect the human rights of all people including the palestinians. >> jesse: you think the president will buckle from pressure from the far left and maybe try to reign israel in? >> dana: so far he has not. although literally in the commercial break, i was reading that biden just had a call with netanyahu in which he reiterates the right of israel to defend

itself but he says something about how he supports the calls for a cease fire. it's not that strong. so literally that just happened. so let me digest that and see how that turns out and how that is interpreted. however, i think he's been very much restrained in terms of allowing israel to defend itself, doing what it needs to do. and pushing back aggressively from the white house podium on far left extremist views like those of the ones we just put up there. another thing that is clear that biden understands, i believe he understands, blinken understands, hamas has to lose. because if they are given an inch here, they will take a mile. we know that iran is behind this. so there's all sorts of geo political things to go forward. last thing, hear about foreign aid and complaints about foreign aid. think about the military aid gone to israel and how well it's

going to use. you're seeing it on your screen, the iron dome is successful. people on the left might add or far left, extremists might say, why doesn't gaza have iron dome? well, their iron dome is not sending rockets in the first place. that is how they can protect themselves from having rockets rain down on them. >> jesse: yeah, a lot of the aid we send israel, they have to make purchases from defense contractors like dana said and invest in an iron dome which saves countless lives. >> dagen: and we can't track the money that wound up in hamas terrorists that we send to iran as part of the nuclear deal and all of the money that flowed into iran with the reopening of that country and they want to get back into that deal. biden and co have talked about that. in terms of the message that we heard for years from

ocasio-cortez and ilhan omar and rasheeda talib, if there was anybody else that was publicly as anti-israel, against israel as those, joe biden would openly be calling them anti-semites. that's what i that are. >> jesse: you think there's an anti semitism problem in the party on the far left? >> juan: are you kidding me? this conversation is so wild to me. i think they're like -- >> jesse: what is the only aid that bernie wants to cut for israel? >> juan: let me finish this point, jesse. you asked the question. i was responding. they're like 23 or 24 jewish democrats and two jewish republicans. i don't think there's too many jewish people that think taylor green has to have their back. i don't think people react that way. what we need here, i think is plainly a cease fire. you have palestinian children

dying, you have huge apartment buildings being destroyed why the israelis. the israelis control the timetable because they're so superior in terms of military might as has been pointed out. they have the iron dome. so you have a david and goliath situation. hamas, the extreme and just terrible -- they shouldn't be firing the missiles, but they are. so many are intercepted by the iron dome. the other hand, israel is firing rockets and blowing up stuff. the palestinians in gaza can't protect themselves. >> jesse: juan, juan -- >> juan: let me finish. it's one person -- >> jesse: so israel should respond -- >> juan: one person here -- i'm sorry, jesse. you're so wrong on this. guess what? this didn't start because hamas started it. this started because people were being -- the israeli settlers were coming in israeli army forces. it wasn't a matter of invection.

then you get people angry. some much of this goes back to trump and netanyahu making a deal with allies -- >> jesse: juan, you -- >> juan: i'm just saying, they're going after iran and iran's nukes. i understand that. but they absolutely left the palestinians behind, the two-state solution that america pursued for decades. just left behind. so the palestinians feel absolutely voiceless and powerless. >> jesse: all right, juan. greg go ahead. >> greg: i am sitting here listening to this and i don't know what is going on. that's my impression. we can talk about the displacement. it's a land dispute that hamas used as an opportunity to start this war. if you want to go into that, we'll need an hour to go into it. if you're going to use the david

and goliath situation, use it appropriately. the david keeps starting the damn fight. the most absurd argument is that the fact that somebody is a superior military force, somehow makes that a war crime? the fact that rockets aimed at israeli citizens are protected by the iron dome but the people sending the rockets aren't? that's a war crime? no, you know what? they built iron dome to protect jews and arabs there. there's a ton of jews and arabs that lived under the dome. the argument -- if i start punching tyrus because he's bigger than me, he can't punch back and he's guilty of a war crime if he picks me up by my legs? no. that's what he has to do. so you have to tell the bullies -- the bullies can still be small. as for these deals, the abraham

accords are holding firm. these are independent commitments with israel with arab states. this is the exact kind of threat to peace that these accords were meant to endure. you're not getting a peace -- you brought up trump. nobody else did. the fact that these deals are keeping this whole arab state together says a hell of a lot. this is idiotic to say -- you're blaming the victim. it's disgusting. >> jesse: there you go. >> juan: who is the victim? israel is the victim? come on, greg. >> jesse: yes. >> juan: please. >> jesse: it's a little different if rockets were flying in your neighborhood. >> greg: next time they are. >> jesse: prince harry is bashing america's first amendment. talk about a pain in the butt.

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♪♪ >> juan: prince harry is not a fan of the first amendment in america. the royal taking issue with the paparazzi and the quote "feeding frenzy" when he arrived in los angeles with his wife, meghan markle. >> i don't want to go down the first amendment road. one thing that i don't understand. but you can find a loop hole in anything. you capitalize or exploit what is not said rather than what is said. i don't understand it. it's bonkers. >> juan: so jesse, you think he has some anger issues with the press? maybe understandably. his mother was fleeing the paparazzi when she died, right?

>> jesse: well, if he thinks the first amendment is bonkers, wait till he hears about the second one. [laughter] is he a member of the royal family? i didn't think royals were allowed to complain? nobody else in his family complains about anything except the climate, i guess. why is he talking so much? keep it inside a little bit. see a shrink. don't do every interview. he's like fauci. he did a dax shepherd podcast? he was just on oprah. you can say no to dax shepherd's podcast. my god. now he says oh, we didn't really learn that much about the first amendment in school. we learned about great britain. we go over there, play along and bow and do the whole thing. he never learned about the revolutionary war? they never ought to that? i'm going to send him a copy of

"killing england", juan. >> juan: so greg, we have limited. you can't slander and libel people. is he right there? >> greg: we can. happens every day. i don't know if i can do better than what jesse just said. the guy claims that he hates the press and paparazzi. so i know what i'll do. i'll move to hollywood with a fame hungry actress. that is not fleeing paparazzi. they know exactly what they're doing. he kind of looks -- i think -- to his defense, he's describing the first amendment as an oddity that is unique to america, the same way we look at british teeth. >> juan: so dana, why do we care? >> dana: well, he's making us care. if you're a british person -- i live with one -- and you come to the country and you say i don't understand this whole first, second amendment thing, this

freedom thing. if you're going on a podcast or oprah and you start the sentence with i really don't want to go down the road of talking about the first amendment because i don't know enough about it, stop there. don't say anything else. let me give you an example, prince. for example, our first amendment, the duchess can slander an entire royal family with racism. >> greg: exactly. >> dana: guess what? there's no consequences for that. everybody in malibu and all of the young people that want to think oh, wow, that is so great. that's one of the things that the first amendment can provide. >> juan: yeah, protects them. when you look at this, dagen, you think we defer and protect the royal family versus referring to harry and meghan? >> dagen: i don't what? what? i look at harry and i think the only thing that he can say that is positive is i'm not as odius

as prince andrews. he's the guy that comes up with a roll of masking tape and pomegranate. he's useless. but he's good on oprah and exercising that first amendment like an olympic triathlete. well-done. >> juan: all right. coming up, hugs. they're making a big comeback. not everybody is happy about it. we have that story next for you on "the five." ♪♪

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♪♪ >> dagen: not everyone is thrilled about life returning to normal. while most people are happy to hug their loved ones again, those that prefer personal space are upset and claim hugging can actually induce more stress than it relieves. greg, i'm a compulsive hugger precovid. full body bugger. not just the one shoulder.

even i know to keep my distance from you. >> greg: yeah, i'm not a hugger. hugging is disgusting. you should only hug your grandparents and babies. other than that, leave everybody alone. jesse is trying to bring back the high five, which is disgusting. >> jesse: or you do something deserving of a high five, so i put it up there. >> greg: i can't reach it. that's wrong. >> dagen: or the low five, which is a smack on the ass. >> jesse: i do think the pandemic came at the right time. it was right during this beginning of the me too movement. so it was god's way of saying, you know what? let's have everybody get a time-out. you've been a little so grabby. keep your hands to yourself for a year and then, you know, when we come back, we can think about what we've done. dagen, i'm going to need some space when we return to the green room. i'm asking that you respect my privacy and i'll get there for the hug when i'm ready.

>> dana: don't look him in the eye. he can't stand that. >> dagen: there's -- dana, go. >> dana: i like the hugs. we had a chance to -- maybe we can show you pictures tomorrow. there was a lot of hugging and dancing and it was fun. felt like people were getting back to normal. >> dagen: juan, final word to you. >> juan: i think a few years ago on this show we had a thing about jerry sienfeld refusing to hug somebody at an awards ceremony. he doesn't like hugging. so i think we're going -- we're going to have to go through that with hugging, cuddling. you have to social distance in me too language, too. >> dagen: i'm still in for the full body hug. one more thing is next. ♪♪

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♪ ♪ >> dana: it's time now for one more thing. i want to show you this dog this is the voluntarily dog, that's what they call her. this dog has got some skills and a lot of concentration. and they go at it all day long. look at this. pretty amazing. i know rookie can't do thvment jasper can't do this. dagen, i don't know if charles can do this? >> dagen: charles is old and lazy. >> dana: kira is not that. greg, you are next. >> greg: all right. let's do this. >> greg: as you know as a world famous celebrity i do a lot of charity work. i was in london this weekend at a huge charity event. i was trying to leave but the main performance guy was as leaning on his horn. if we would have the tape we have elton john who was there.

this is all he would do was just honking. you can see he was very upset. he wanted to go home. he had to get home and put his .tupe to bed. >> jesse: jesse's live shot news. here we go. so, you know i like bloopers. especially news bloopers. it's not always the blooper committed by the person giving the news, it's the people behind the live shot. and also provide us with a lot of bloopers. taking a selfie in back of an msnbc live shot. that's when you knew it was a problem. the producers have been sending me all these pictures for one more thing involving alligators and bears. guys, the alligator has to almost like bite someone's head off. it has to be really can't

investigating. but you know i like news bloopers. more ploopers, less animal videos. >> dana: in the producer's defense i'm the one that sent the alligator video to johnny earlier this morning for you. >> jesse: thank you. >> dana: i will look for bloopers the next time. >> dana: thank you, dana. >> fun week and great to be a sport's fan in america. the nhl playoffs. the cripple crown. baseball getting hot. the nfl just released it schedule, now take a look. just at a pure moment of sports joy. >> oh, wade griffin razzle dazzle, oh, kevin durant, the rack attack. >> juan: yes, the brooklyn nets were having a whole lot of fun. that play reminds me of playground basketball in brooklyn. this past week and another fun

player self-curry won the scoring championship. his team is going to play the los angeles lakers in a one game challenge this week. what great time to be a fan. >> dana: i think your pick-up came in brooklyn are probably different than the ones jesse had on long island. i'm just imagining. >> jesse: i grew up in philly, dana, come on. >> dana: dagen you are next. >> dagen: if you were near captive have a island florida last week. check out cow nose rays. you want to get in the water with this ginormous school of rays? they are not that dangerous like they would probably swim around you i have done some research since i have got 45 seconds to kill. this is a threatened species they migrate up and down the atlantic coast. they apparently mate in the chis peek bay area. [laughter] >> dagen: if you are in the area, maybe you can say some ray

mating. >> dana: dagen, at least they are in school. >> greg: oh. >> jesse: oh. >> juan: i think that's a dana's corny joke. >> dana: gutfeld, who do you have on tonight? >> greg: robby suave, tyrus and kat. >> dana: "special report" is up next. hey, bret. >> bret: dana, thank you. good evening welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight calls for a cease-fire but there does not appear to be an end in sight for israel and hamas terrorists. today the heaviest fighting yet which entered its second week. what remains to be seen is when and how the u.s. will become involved diplomatically, a phone call late this afternoon between president biden and israeli prime minister netanyahu, meantime the top u.s. diplomat is side-stepping a claim the u.s. had intelligence about a media building attacked by israel. senior foreign affairs