♪ ♪ otezla. show more of you. >> fox news alert: microsoft is being hit with explosive allegations of sexual harassment by women at the company via a newly obtained documents, after was revealed that the company's founder, bill gates, reportedly had an affair with an employee while still married and also, allegedly, pursued other female workers. this is "outnumbered." i'm emily compagno, and here, harris faulkner, kayleigh mcenany, gillian turner, and

cohost of "the five," juan williams. the daily mail reports that documents buried in a since dismissed 2015 discrimination case play microsoft is a place where women aren't ignored, abused, or degraded, with men broke down groping and their female coworkers. the lawsuit accused lawmakers of having a boys club atmosphere ripe with sexual harassment. one of the former employees who made allegations spoke out, telling the news outlet "it was a culture of testing women poorly with impunity, and these revelations about gates have shown that to the world. it was a culture of lip service to diversity and inclusion but not supporting women and sexual assault claims or their career progression." the daily mail -- one of these allegations in that original lawsuit was one of rape by a male earn turn to another female

intern. she reported it to her superiors and hr, requested a restraining order, and was told that if she followed through with it that she would be removed from the team now, the allege and rapist was offered a full-time job at microsoft. should bill gates be held accountable? >> harris: whoever was at the top should be. it isn't always what you think it's going to be. this will go far and wide, i would imagine. you hold the person at the top accountable, but then all of those people we like to call enablers, which in this instance, many people were complicit. we don't know who they are yet, but there was a chain of command that let some of, at least, the reporting happen in a clandestine matter dominic manor that did this will get big and wide. it's one of those things where bill gates might want to step up with whatever he knows the truth to be at this point. you guys are lawyers, so you know how this works.

having worked at a corporation who has this in their past and has come forward and come forward, successfully, the lessons learned in all of that is what you know when you know it, tell it if you can. this woman may not have felt like she could, but who are the people along the way who were witnesses or, perhaps, were complicit? there very is seldom something that only happens in a corporation, as big as that one, that only one person would know about. >> emily: to your point, the lawsuit being dismissed and the appeal being dismissed, that wasn't on the merits. that was on the class as a dominic action designation that was on the class action designation. also, microsoft's willingness to settle. it did not mean allegations were unfounded or went untested in a court of law. kayleigh, in one of the 238 internal complaints, one

employee said "i consider myself to be a strong woman. i have a track record of strong performance over a long tenure, yet i felt powerless. women are underrepresented in big attack." is this a reason why? >> kayleigh: absolutely. there were 181 discrimination claims, one found to be legitimate. that raises a lot of questions. that's a lot of complaints. in one case, a man was accused of groping four women and the response was "he had four response was "he had poor interpersonal skills." big tech has big problems. 40% of men go towards technology of those who get stem degrees, and only 20% of women. did a great job trying to remedy that disparity, trumpeted.

he secured half a billion dollars for women in tech, but why would they go when 40% of women are reporting discrimination? >> emily: one of these women talked about that the "bro culture is alive and well." she wrote this email to a superior and talked about how she was the only female around. in your extensive coverage and history, are you surprised? >> gillian: no. it's shocking to hear the claims, and this 2015 lawsuit that has just been made public, but it's not surprising. to kayleigh's point about the one allegation, that one man sexually assaulted by groping four women, that was at one company events. it defies belief. big tech ever cover the industry over the last three years, is one of the worst, most anti-women industries in america.

forget discrimination, bro culture. we are talking about a major problem with sexual harassment and assault, which, as harris mentions, makes people criminally liable. from that perspective, it's not surprising that we are now seeing bill gates, who is the king of the hill in big tech world, get implicated. that's why i say it's not surprising. where there is smoke, there's usually fire. big tech is the next shoe to drop in terms of mistreatment of women. they are not any better than hollywood. folks just don't talk or know about it, because it is not as compelling. the problems run deep and wide. >> emily: juan, microsoft has said "we are dedicating $55 million per year to not only gender discrimination and unconscious bias training, to diversity and inclusion programs, but also to creating a robust, internal investigation process to address employee concerns." will this work, and is it enough?

>> juan: i'm not out there, i can't speak to that, because it depends on the situation, how ingrown the problem is with the 2015 lawsuit, but there's been chatter for years about the idea of tech as being a boys club with regard to women, minorities. they build the image of the nerds, but i guess even nerds with money can act crudely when it comes to social behavior. i think some of this, you've got to say, when you think about bill gates and you think about melinda gates and the divorce that's going on, you've got to say "wow, this is a lot coming out having to do with women and high tech in the last few weeks." there was the idea that bill gates had some relationship with jeffrey epstein. then there was the revelation this week where gates had an affair with a woman at microsoft.

this stuff, you've got to start to think "maybe next, it will be bill gates and --" i don't know. it seems like her legal team is building a case against not only bill gates, but all of these high-tech moguls. i think she not only wants a big settlement in the divorce. i think she may want him off the board of the gates foundation. it looks like this is a bitter, bitter transaction. >> emily: this is a $50 billion endowment. she called for that outside investigation, melinda gates, during the course of bill gates stepping down. two juan's point about the "nerd was quote label people throw around, people say that bill gates was not just a nerd, he hired strippers for pool parties. this is something that uncovers something that perhaps a large portion of microsoft already

knew, which is a toxic culture that should not have been tolerated then and should not be tolerated now. >> gillian: you threaded the needle really well, emily. between the two issues we are talking about, which is the bro culture, discrimination against women, and on the flip side, we have sexua l assault. it is up to the legal system to handle sexual assault. when you promote culture that takes advantage of women in this way, we've all seen the movies, read the screenplays. we know where it goes. it always ends up in the same place, which is that women end up being abused and assaulted. that is the needle, now, that a lot of americans are trying to thread. >> harris: needs a lot of legal help. president biden delivers a key

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>> kayleigh: attorney general merrick garland launching a covid fraud task force, after

$63 billion of funds were blocked, like this one in new york, where these men stand accused of ripping off $2 million with phony unemployment claims. a few of them flaunted the scam on social media, by posting pictures of themselves large piles of cash. meantime, some states are using the covid relief funding to offer financial incentives to the unemployed, given up to $1200 if they get that. emily, coming to you, as i mentioned in the intro, they were caught because they were dumb, were using 100 atm cards to withdraw and other people's names. they took pictures of themselves and lifted the same fake name and address on multiple claims. it's easy to catch, which bears the question: how much are we not catching? there is an analysis that may make have lost $660 billion in fraud from the first round of covid relief. biden has passed trillions more. >> emily: it reads like an episode of "stupid criminals."

[laughter] in the federal complaint of these guys, they came away with $2.2 million, but the loss was $5 million, expected. in february in new york, they have already paid out $65 billion. i wanted to make sure that huge number was correct. they blocked almost $6 billion of fraudulent claims. he goes to your question, how much have they not found? two days ago in washington state, where i live, a man was arrested after using 100 stolen identities to steal $350,000. my identity was stolen a week into the pandemic. i talked about it on the "outnumbered" group, filing an unemployment claim. it's terrifying when you are the victim. halfway through the pandemic, washingon state reported $600 million in fraud, halfway through. the numbers are mind-boggling. they continue to rise. the doj is getting on it, but it

begs the question calling for every one of our dollars going towards unemployment, how much is going towards fraud a question mark >> kayleigh: exactly, this is taxpayer dollars, your money! this adds to the fraud component of people engaging in fraud and not working. then the you have people getting unemployment benefits, 42% of which are making more in unemployment than if they get a job. that's a lot of people not working and a lot of fraud! >> harris: a number of us got caught up in the unemployment scam early on with the first round of money. that's something i dealt with, you dealt with, a lot of people did. can we put the pictures of the criminals backup? [laughter] can we focus on that for a second? the u.s. of department of defense covid relief scam it. wrap your mind around the people who didn't get this money who might have needed it. looking at the amount of money we have out there, they have put commissions on everything. i haven't worked in government the way you have, kayleigh, but

i would think when you start a program like this, why wouldn't you have a commission to watch out specifically -- never been in a pandemic in our lifetime. we haven't seen this since 1918. you've got this coronavirus. why not put somebody in charge of watching the cash? >> kayleigh: they did, but the biden administration got rid of them. >> harris: right. you wipe that away. this is -- an issue we are seeing. it went from what was working to the scam or crisis that we are seeing now. the scam of the border, what cartels are able to do because they wiped away safeguards and everything that's keeping things at bay. now we are watching it with something else. i don't know. is this biden or biden has given the responsibility to somebody else and they are taking their eye off the ball? >> kayleigh: great point about having someone in charge. there was someone in charge of

finding fraud who has been decommissioned by the biden administration. why decommission a guy that was there in the first place? >> harris: this helps the criminals. >> kayleigh: it does. a big stack of cash. juan, president biden so there's no evidence that folks are sitting on the sidelines because they are getting unemployment, that outweighs the benefit of getting a job. we do know that states like connecticut, not a red states, are saying "we are going to give bonuses to get back to work." there's an issue here. >> juan: i think that what you have is an imbalance in terms of labor force and workforce, kayleigh. people who have been long-term unemployed, i don't think anybody resent the idea that they are going to look for the best job going back, that they want something that maybe has more status, more money attached as they find a new job. as a result, you see companies like walmart, target, even starbucks and others, now --

trying to entice people back. the governor of connecticut now says "if you get a job, if you have been long-term unemployed, and you get a job, you can get another $1,000 as an incentive payment from the state." it is a creative use of money. i don't have any anger about it. i just think that a bunch of states, not only connecticut, are doing similar things. the idea being "let's give people an incentive, because, at the moment, so many people are pointing to that they are still concerned about covid or they don't have good child care." schools in some places are not fully open. you have to say to workers "the economy has taken off, and we need you," so i think it's a great idea. >> harris: missouri governor parson's, to further that out quickly, said yesterday to me that "you don't have great child care right now, because the child care centers can't hire people either, because people don't want to work. >> kayleigh: excellent point.

gillian, on the issue of children, the biden administration, we know that they are giving out federal unemployment benefits, but on top of that, they are talking about this enormous child care, child tax credit, second largest expansion of government welfare in history, with no workforce requirement attached. it seems to me to be as systemic problem. >> gillian: $300 a month per child, pro-family, in perpetuity. it is an enormous benefits. i want to circle back to what juan said a moment to go. i agree with him that it is the prerogatives of states and private businesses to offer people hiring and job incentives if they want to. i'm not questioning states rights to do it. my question though, and this gets to the heart of the matter, the rub. why are these states setting the bar so low? connecticut offering as much as

$10,000. oklahoma, same amount of money for 6 weeks. montana offering people an incentive if they can hold down a job for four weeks, a month. why are we offering people incentives that seem so ripe to be taken advantage of? why are we setting the bar low? >> kayleigh: breweries are offering free ipas on top of that. just ahead, president biden jokes about running down a reporter for asking about israel. get chuckles from the reporters. do you think president trump would have gotten a left from the media? i don't think so. ♪ ♪

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stories about the president headlined "president trump threatens a reporter," which they repeatedly tried to make that the narrative. that's what happened prior to this moment, when he landed in detroit. he talked to -- 8 minutes. she was tough on him, but -- arguably the most anti-israel member of congress, called it on apartheid states, said that 1940 it was a forced movement of the palestinians, which basically said that israel shouldn't exist, that it was founded. it appears that biden wanted to force -- off the map. >> harris: that was the backdrop of what was going on moments before that. this is how deft he is at changing the topic. "let me joke around with the media." he didn't want to answer a question about israel. he is not in concert with what's coming out of other members of

the administration right now, and, most importantly, those progressive members who were not on the tarmac. that was going to be delicate for him anyway. >> emily: you are right. the story is its 2 degrees of deflection, it's about this joke he made and how it was received by the press, rather than his comment on israel or upon that fisher and his party or administration on how they are handling israel. i like the quips we found on the internet in reaction to this, one of tom elliott's being "this is a clear attack on the freedom of the press, and i trust an impeachment proceeding will follow." i'm not up to the trump administration was treated when there would be jokes, and they would be vilified. i want to point out that what that reporter asked, they didn't ask a question. they said "can i ask you a question about israel?" he still deflected. >> harris: juan, your

thoughts. >> juan: i don't think there's any question that president biden is doing better than president trump did with the press. i think the context here is important. president trump treated the press as a target, a convenient target. he talked about "enemy of the people," "fake news," "ailing "new york times,"" because jeff bezos on "the washington post" -- he wanted to cancel people. i think he did cancel subscriptions to some of the big papers at the white house. joe biden's whole appeal is that he has a "friendly guy," and he knows reporters. he's in on them a long time. let me finish up. i think you have to understand that context. that is why the response from reporters was "joe is being joe." >> harris: it is a different context. >> juan: kayleigh knows that

president trump used the press, in some ways, as an antagonist to stir up debate. >> kayleigh: he fought back against a lot of unfair headlines. that's what he did. he made the party stronger. you get all the press accountable. >> harris: he did do something that this president isn't doing, and it has to do with access. the context is different. if you've got reporters -- i hated being called "enemy of the people" as a blanket statement. i'm in the media. i didn't appreciate that. that was something that can be said to this president, because he would make himself accessible. you could go back and forth with just about anything. former president trump and i talked about race, anything. you had access. you should see all the unanswered calls and emails that go with this white house from those of us who are part of the media. that's not just a grumble. that's an issue, especially when you have such important topics going on. context isn't whether or not we

are liked. the context is whether or not we have access to the person who has to be held accountable at the top. gillian? >> gillian: i think everything you just laid out, harris, illustrates the degree to which, over the last several years, most specifically four years during the trump administration, the media and especially social media bludgeoned humor into death. that makes me sad. i miss times when americans, including the president of the united states, could crack a joke, but we are not there anymore. i think, largely in part, due to the way the media treated president trump, the way social media has unfolded in its own, awful, nasty environment. we can't do it anymore. the problem for the press now is you can't hold different presidents to different standards. you've got to treat everybody equally. >> harris: want a last word on this? >> kayleigh: the context of a trump presidency, harvard is pretty reputable, looked at the

first 100 days and found a historically negative coverage, far more than george w. bush and president obama and others. that is the context with which he came into the presidency. he fought back against it. like it or not, that's what he did. >> harris: up next, vice president harris reportedly has an enemies list of reporters, because they don't fully appreciate her. oh, boy. ♪ ♪ veteran homeowners, home values are at all-time highs. you could have much more equity than you think! banks can loan you some of it. newday can loan you all of it! the newday100 va cash out loan.

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out for synonyms that don't go over well. >> harris: how about giggling? >> kayleigh: tackling. [laughter] emily, this idea that vice president harris is so consumed with her news coverage, i took a look. she has some of the most fawning press coverage i've ever seen, "the new york times" talking about the first 100 days. you have the "los angeles times" who opened a beat about kamala harris, track and her stark rise to the vice presidency. she is getting fawning coverage but is obsessed with word choice. >> emily: there is an important distinction to be made behind the acknowledgment of her getting that achievement, what that represent, and the fawning coverage. every time i'm in the grocery store line, she is on half of the covers on the magazine rack. part of the free press and its role in holding elected officials accountable includes criticism. the word "cautious" when talking

about the administration's accessibility certainly doesn't strike me as disrespectful or anything other than a straight line reporting. to me, a true leader doesn't censor feedback. they surround themselves with diversity of thought, challenges for growth, and not sycophants. i have seen, only from her, a trending in that direction. it makes me wonder what kind of manufactured leader she is. >> kayleigh: we don't keep up -- i just reached out to vice president pence, his former aide and asked if they kept an enemies list. they said "no." >> harris: i love what you were saying during the commercial break. she was working her phone during the commercial break. [laughter] >> kayleigh: i was trying. what do you think of this list, harris? >> harris: i'm not a fan of the word "enemy." we are all americans. it's ridiculous that we would talk about ourselves that way, but it's politics. anybody who doesn't think that kamala harris isn't looking

ahead perhaps to that center seat in the oval office, this might be an indication of it. it might be. to handle something with such great delicacy around wording. here's some words she might want to have stricken. "get to the root cause of the border crisis." she probably never wants that to be written about with her name attached, because they are trying so hard to watch her and cover her get to the root cause of the border crisis without her actually going to the border to do it. she has got this trip in june. the senate says it's hagerty on its first official trip south of the border to guatemala -- they are still waiting for her to do it. those are words she should have stricken, specific to her work duties. if she's looking to start anything else, that makes me think she's a typical politician trying to get to the next week. >> kayleigh: to that end, juan, we learned that she doesn't take questions and goggles on the brain like -- i might have the answer why.

let's look at one time when she answered a question. >> reporter: do you plan to visit the border? >> vice president harris: not today. [laughter] i have before and i'm sure i will again. >> kayleigh: like her boss, she doesn't seem to be good at the back and forth with reporters. >> juan: that back-and-forth happens between reporters and politicians every day. i think part of this is that joe biden is so popular, i think he is plus 60% in the ap poll right now, in terms of voter approval of his presidency, harris is, therefore, i think an easier target for people who want to be critical, especially in this polarized political environment, kayleigh. you think about her role, i put her in some kind of historical perspective. obviously, with president obama, joe biden had contact in the senate on capitol hill that was so valuable to president obama. that was the role he played.

you think about vice president pence and the trump administration. he had such connections to the evangelicals, the establishment conservatives. >> harris: what does she bring them? >> juan: i think what she brings is, what we heard from emily earlier is exactly on point. she brings in a younger cohort of americans, minorities, women who have never been in that position before. that's why she's on the cover of all those magazines. they are fawning so much as they are selling those magazines to people who are interested in her. i will say this. i think on the immigration front, she has been given a difficult portfolio. warning sometimes that people in the biden administration haven't -- a lot of the biting people, i think they may still hold a grudge about the way she treated by them during the debate. she has got a difficult road to go on because people think of her as ambitious. you know how they say "an ambitious woman, that's not good." >> harris: i take it as a

compliment. >> kayleigh: can i respond >> gillian: can i respond? i think the same thing that dogged her during the campaign trail is starting her as vice president, and that is that people who cover are the most closely perceived that she is not quite master the art of matching who she is publicly with who she is authentically in real life. this is something we saw time and time again sort of trip her up, to the degree to which she did not want to be spontaneous when she was talking to the press. she did not want to expose too much about herself. while she is young and dynamic and represents a minority culture in this country, she is following a outdated playbook, when it comes to how to be a politician. >> kayleigh: ty harris' point, vice president -- kamala harris has not. the border is on fire.

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>> kayleigh: rockets hitting israel today. we will have a report on the gaza border and moments.

we will also have another guest formally from the state department. her response to present biden's spending plans. he is on deck. dr. nicole saphier on just don't like whether america's children will be left behind with the changes to cdc mask wearing guidelines. one does normal return for them? join john and me on "america reports," top of the hour." >> when it comes to aliens, there's things i can't tell you on air. [laughter] what is true, and i'm being serious, is that there is footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. we can't explain how they move, their trajectory. >> emily: yes! former president obama is all but confirming the existence of ufos, maneuverability and

speed is different than anything that exists in the u.s. military and so they must be taken seriously! his comments come days after a navy fighter pilot revealed that airmen have seen unknown aircraft off the virginia coast every day for two years. this comes ahead of an expected report from the pentagon on unexplained sightings that one former official says will "shock people." juan, i have to start with you. you've been suggested to me talking to you about this for so long. you know i am all in. i love this so much, even going back to buzz aldrin who says the probability of extraterrestrial life is "almost certain." everything from naval fighter pilots to so many more things. tell me your income too. >> juan: why not question markets fun. [laughter] i think americans love this story. this is a story that could bring us together. i don't care what your politics are. everyone is interested. everybody is fascinated. if there was ever a reason to build a wall, this is it. [laughter]

>> harris: you know they come from space, right? [laughter] >> juan: remember president reagan "star wars" program, defense against a country that would fire missiles against the usa? we could build "star wars" to protect us against aliens. i'm all in. i agree, emily, this is fascinating. i don't know how real it is. there's lots of things that could be unidentified that would be aliens, but boy would it be fun to meet some. >> emily: gillian, i assume they were all friendly. with your national security background, we know about the air force systems, their supersonic -- there's so much more. tell me you think it's real, too. >> gillian: what i will say is you don't need me to say anything here. for americans who have not been paying attention to this issue, the jig is up. we have former presidents, former directors of national intelligence, republican and democrat presidents, senior members of congress saying "this

is a real threat." what remains to be seen and what nobody can tell us right now is whether these are objects believed to be -- was behind them, right? is it foreign life sources on other planets, or is it just america's adversaries and enemies developing technologies faster than we are aware of? we don't know. as an example of how serious the government is taking this, in august, the pentagon has eight uap, unidentified aerial phenomenon. they don't call them ufos. it's real. >> emily: caleigh, to gillian's point, all you have to list do is listen to joe grogan's podcast with bob lazar to know how long they've been doing this. give us your west wing insider info. >> kayleigh: that's classified. [laughter] i have a news alert. juan agreed to building a wall, be it in space.

[laughter] news alert number two. we can never agree on anything from a bipartisan perspective, but you've got obama and john ratcliffe, trumps director of national intelligence, coming to a bipartisan consensus on ufos, much to emily's excitement! for their being ufos, we aren't worried we should be. more so than emily is. [laughter] >> harris: i think they will be family. my mother was convinced when i was in college that i was dating someone from a ufo. [laughter] i have been a believer a long time, apparently. >> kayleigh: a lot of moms probably have that in common. coming up, what do kim jong un, the tiger can, and harry styles have in common? >> yes! [laughter] ♪ ♪ i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know there's so many of you who have served our country honorably. whether it's 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself.

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kicking banning skinning genes throughout his country very he' also not allowing mullets the extravagant haircut the fashion for signs of an invasion of capitalist lifestyle. fearing they will influence people and lead to his overthrow . julian, or to see just not like 1980 to? >> this guy has literally at this point banned every single facets of the american way of life, whether it's social media platforms, whether it is what kind of shirts and shoes you're allowed to wear with what kind of food you're allowed to eat, so this is just a continuation of that nonsense. they need to control everybody and not reeling the more outrageous demands become the more and more he pushes away hi own citizens making room for th american invasion of american

freedom. to get you went deep there. harry styles makes skinny jeans look so good, who wouldn't want them. >> that is one of the things i thought about. >> that is one of the things i love about it to be very i'm no so serious about this, i think if you take a look at him, he wants to be in skinny jeans. he couldn't see them there. it is tough for them. the only way i can proceed with jillian on this is to say this is at least a better story than the one that's coming out about his sister, she is ordering the execution of a high-ranking officials in north korea who don't fit in with her agenda an she's accusing them of corruption.

the whole regime now is in fear of the system. she might fit into some skinny jeans, i don't know. >> i called him the denim dictator. i felt that china and hong kong actually had the most denim fabric. i thought i put that back because china and north korea w were having a debate in the morning meeting. he wanted denim dictator ship, and i will leave it to the viewers to see. i love this segment because it got me to use the term rocket man. the most short-term wave to hav people not to appear at i would

have an influence or campaign propping up more korean influencers because all the spotlight on what's going on in china they are developing new ones rather than putting all th focus on skinny jeans and mullets which even to the tv that he doesn't want people to where it makes me want to go ou and get it right. >> they have such knowledge on celebrities. he was hanging out with dennis rodman, we want to talk about somebody. like it they hang out with i just think he is fascinated by western culture. hollywood apparently they love hollywood movies. he wants a lifestyle for himsel but not for his people.