nation of israel. and those rockets probably were paid for using american dollars. that's a very sad stage. >> charles: we appreciate your time and really all that you're doing, thank you so much. folks, that will do it for me, you can catch me tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. on the fox business network, a lot of craziness in the market. for now, here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody, i'm jesse watters along with dana perino, katie pavlich, juan williams and kennedy, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ this is a fox news alert, prince william responding to a bombshell case of media malpractice involving his mother, princess diana. an investigation found that bbc reporter martin bashir used

"deceitful tactics" in order to secure a landmark tell-all interview with princess diana back in 1995. benjamin hall is standing by in london with all the details. benjamin? >> jesse, good afternoon, you remember this interview from 1995, it was groundbreaking, the first time princess diana had spoken publicly about the breakdown of her marriage to prince charles, about his adultery with camilla parker bowles, saying "there were three of us in this relationship, it just didn't work," she spoke about her ramp in bulimia and many people feel this interview led to events that led to her death a couple years later. what is now emerges that she gave that interview after being shown forged bank documents that made it look as if members of the royal house were being paid to spy on her. prince william release the statement in the last few minutes saying "it is my view from the deceitful way the interview was obtained, substantially influence what my mother said.

the interview was a major contribution to making my parents relationship worse and brings indescribable sadness to know that the bbc's failure contributed significantly to her fear, paranoia and isolation that i remember from those values with her." it was always thought strange that princess diana chose martin bashir to do this interview. now it's clear she did so because he duped her and asked the bbc graphics team to draw up these fake documents to convince her. some will compare that 1995 diana interview to the one prince harry recently gave to oprah. they both talked about how hard they found royal life and how it affected our mental health. that incredible open, personal message from prince william, he said he felt the media hounded his mother and said had she known about the deceit things may have turned out very differently. jesse? >> jesse: thanks, hang tight, we want to ask a few questions ray dana perino, go right ahead.

>> dana: i know you are an expert on this case. just kidding. i do have some questions, benjamin. first of all, why in the world was diana's pr team, i'm sure she's not making these decisions on her own, have asked for her, you know, bank records, why... how does that happen? >> first of all, her team was quite diminished at the time, the royal family by all accounts had rather cut her off and she was left with quite a small team, her brother being the main one and this journalist, martin bashir approached her brother saying, i've come across these documents which show that members of your household and of princess diana's household have been accepting money, totaling about 10,000 pounds, $50,000 to give information on her life to both the tabloids as well as security and it was that piece of information that encourage diana to go with martin bashir. it was widely reported that she was wanting to give an interview anyway but certainly not to him

and certainly the interview would not have been, many people think, as groundbreaking and such a big, open, honest interview that she gave. she was very angry with the reports that martin bashir brought her. >> dana: what about this report that there was a handwritten note that she wrote that said she was happy with the interview? >> she did and that's what martin bashir continually brings up but that's because there had not been an investigation at the time. the bbc had an internal investigation which showed martin bashir was at fault but they held that, they covered it up, they didn't really set so that feeling is at the moment that princess diana just didn't realize the true extent of the fraud that was played. >> dana: that being said i would think, you know, i think it diminishes her intelligence, she was clever and she was smart and intelligent woman and she put it out there that there were three people in the marriage. maybe that was hurtful, maybe that led to additional things

but it seems to me that if you give an interview to a reporter at least here it would be a little bit different. thanks, benjamin. >> kennedy: kennedy, would you like to ask benjamin a question? the means were fraudulent in the end was utterly tragic for this woman, can you put into context how she obviously was the brightest burning royal at the time. there was years and years of gossip about the whales marriage by when that fell apart in this interview came out before, before they were divorced, how did that interview change how she was pursued by the press, how did that lead into her son's reaction. >> she was the shining star of the royal family at the time.

he was the heir to the throne, the one i was supposed to get all the attention and princess diana was the people's princess, the one the people turned to so when the divorce or when the marriage broke down, people started to side with her and they didn't like that. as soon as she spoke to the press, she kind of cross that line, royals ten to be given some scent of privilege in the u.k. but when she came out and get that big interview it was almost as if the gloves came off and she was fair game for the rest of the press and at that point we started to see them hound her, not one or two paparazzi but hundreds and hundreds at a time following her everywhere she went and she was not given support or security by the royal family. the counter side to this is that she very cleverly used in the media, she knew she was heading into a divorce battle and knew she needed to improve her own standing so she was off also known to give tipoffs to the media and the tablets when it suited her and often didn't want the attention when it was bad so

look, there are two sides to how prints diana interacted to the media but journalistic malpractice is such as forging documents to get an interview. >> jesse: juan williams, why don't you jump in here? >> juan: this week there was news here in the u.s. one prince harry, i guess, said he thinks the first amendment here in the united states is confusing to him, he doesn't understand it and i know that fleet street is famous in britain for its aggressive tactics, tapping phones and all the rest but is there a different set of rules just for us as americans to understand as we take in the story? is there a different set of protection for public figures like diana that are being applied in this bbc report? >> the royal family, would give

x amount of media on events a year and that have been a long-standing agreement between the press and the royal family. that started to change and i think we seen that the world over, social media also started to mean that, that came a bit later but they were everywhere and paparazzi, the '90s were the heyday of paparazzi, the u.k. press could no longer control it and there was a big discussion as to whether, if these photos were being taken so often in publisher on the world, why should the u.k. press also have to be silenced and not be able to publish them? so we started to see a relationship change between the royal family and the media. you talk about prince harry and i think many people say he is just as savvy as his mother was when it comes to using the media and we seen that now, he called the first amendment "bonkers," it's surprising that prince william was the first want to come out with a

statement, it's almost always harry who is quickly on instagram or twitter with his replies. interestingly we will see the two brothers together on the 1se been princess diana's 60th birthday and they are unveiling a statue together and it will be the first time we've seen them since prince philip's funeral and the big rift has continued to widen so all eyes will be on that. it seems like there are two different camps of the moment, william comes out rather more restrained statement and then you have harry with a far more emotional one. some people feel he's really following the diana model but the statement from prince william was emotional and raw to the core, he talked about the pain and the suffering that this interview caused him so i think we are seeing a game player between the two of them, prince william doesn't want prince harry to be the one who carries the mantle of his mother, he wants to remind the world that she was his mother, too and he is just as much of a right to her so it's an interesting battle playing out

between the two brothers. we will be watching when they come back together again on jul. to william's statement actually included the phrase "fake news" which i had to do a little bit of a double take there, i didn't know that it become so popular across the pond, benjamin. katie would like to ask you a question so stick with their pay katie? >> katie: benjamin, you're mentioning this rivalry that seems to be brewing between the two brothers and color me suspicious but this is an independent inquiry, can you please talk about who was behind the independent inquiry? because this interview took place 26 years ago and i you have harry in the u.s. working with oprah, headline this week saying he was going to drop more "truth bombs" about the royal family so who is behind the investigation and why is it coming out now? >> there had long been rumors that this interview was based on fraudulent reporting. the bbc did its own internal investigation about 25 years ago

and they covered it up. this new investigation came as the inquiry headed out by laura dyson, came about because of changes in the media that we are seeing. we had the phone hacking scandal that took place ten years ago and a number of them brought back and investigated, as a result this has come to life and been accepted by the bbc who always denied it. there will be ramifications we just don't know at the moment but the press are being held to account more and more over here. you mentioned the phone hacking, which took place around ten years ago, that absolutely changed the way the media was seen over here. it was the wild west for them, they were hacking into prince harry's voice mail, the voice mails were just generic passwords and all this information is being flashed over to the newspapers and they really cracked down on that and what we are seeing now, frankly, is the media continuing to try

to clean themselves up and perhaps address old mistakes. >> jesse: thanks a lot, benjamin. i guess it's true that media corruption has no borders. and prince harry has released a statement saying "to those who have taken some form of accountability, thank you for owning it. that is the first step towards justice and truth. but deeply concerns me is that practices like these and even worse are still widespread today, then and now, it's bigger than one outlet, one network or one publication. my biggest concern was history repeating itself. i've said that before on numerous occasions very publicly and what i was seeing was history repeating itself up more, perhaps, were definitely far more dangerous because then you add race in and you had social media in hand when i'm talking about history repeating itself i am talking about my

mother." very interesting that he would say that at this point. and we will leave it at that. up next, a cease-fire reached between israel and hamas but the tensions here at home are ramping up. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> katie: after 11 days of fighting like that there's a cease-fire between israel and terrorist organization hamas, president biden set to react to the news of the white house. the conflict over the fighting in the middle east is heating up in america, new video shows a shocking attack on jewish diners by what witnesses say is a pro-palestinian mob. >> [bleep]! guys, guys! hey, hey, hey!

>> katie: so dana, we've been watching this play out in the middle east, 4,000 rockets fired by b12 at israeli civilian targets over the last 11 days, it's boiled over into the states and we've seen jews handed down in the streets by what people would say our pro-palestinian protesters. >> dana: it's being investigated as a potential hate crime, also because of social media or new technology there are ways that these groups can organize and meet up, this is where were going to be end possibly that will lead police to be able to protect people that are out and about or tracked on perpetrators. another piece of this as joe biden gets ready to make a statement in about 25 minutes, first of all, i don't understand how hamas has conditions for a cease-fire, i understand that the protection of life is very important but we also to be very clear about the root cause of

what hamas has done even to the people of gaza, putting these missile targets right there in the middle of hospitals and schools. and the propaganda that hamas is able to get out of this is that they are strong, they are in the position to be the big guy, the one i can save everybody but they are putting so many people in danger. the last thing on this, there is not enough attention, i don't believe, katie, on the fact that democrats in congress, some democrats in congress are trying to put a halt to a recently-approved weapons sale from the united states to israel. these things are almost always put forward and agreed to, all of a sudden that is in jeopardy and it's like those democrats are calling for that are watching right there on their screen, they can see that israel has utilized that money well,

protecting innocent people and the democrats somehow think that there should be less of that. i think we should pay a little bit more attention to that before joe biden gets to the podium in about 45 minutes. >> katie: what about that, we've seen the squad saying they don't want to replenish the iron dome but you can argue that the iron dome saved the lives of people in gaza because it gives the israelis buffer not to react with full military operations every time hamas, the terrorist organization fires a rocket at civilian targets. the three i don't think there's any question here that israel is the far superior military power, they are also the far superior economic power, katie. to my mind i think what's going on here is, there's been a tremendous shift in public attitude here in the united states. that kind of violence that we showed earlier to be condemned is reprehensible. i haven't heard about this being any kind of widespread

phenomenon here in this country. but what is true is that, and i think dana mentioned this, in an age of social media, this is the first time we really had israeli-palestinian conflict in this kind of social media views so a lot of voices that are previously ignored are now being heard and i think a lot of those voices no longer, most of my life israel was a vulnerable state and warned that the united states needed an ally to be supported and now israel is a powerhouse in that region, we make deals with them in terms of taking on the iranians and the like and i think a lot of people are questioning how they are using their power at this moment that's why i think worldwide opinion is going in the other direction and bernie sanders, a jewish u.s. senator is leading the drive to take away the money for further military weapons.

>> katie: kennedy? >> kennedy: if you're going to take money away from anyone in terms of selling weapons, take it away from saudi arabia, that is most concerning to me, absolutely. hamas is a terror organization. the question is do you stand for freedom or marxism? marxism, they embraced and loved hamas, rationalizing a terroristic violence. israel is a democracy in the middle east and it is our ally because they stand for freedom. that is a big goal in our society, what you stand for marxism or freedom? i hope we have a president is able to handle this diplomatically. i do support him. >> jesse: wants an worldwide opinion has shifted against israel, i never knew worldwide opinion was ever with israel.

let's all remember why they are there, it's because of the holocaust, millions were slaughtered in germany and they were put there by the british because i was a british territory and harry truman, a democrat was the first to recognize the israeli country there and since its founding, they've been fighting to the death trying to survive, being attacked from all sides. and they are fighting a terrorist organization, this terrorist organization, they are not trying to avoid civilian casualties. israel is trying to avoid them, hamas is not trying to avoid them so if you are living in long island and manhattan is just shelling you indiscriminately with rockets all day, and the world is calling for restraint while the insurgents are hiding in hospitals and schools here in manhattan, you do your best to avoid civilian casualties what you are going to take those

people out as surgically as you can hand to save your own people. and to make peace and that's what the israelis are doing. >> katie: we will see if the cease-fire holds. cnn's chris cuomo caught giving his brother advice on how to fight back against sexual harassment allegations. he's a musical ♪ ♪ certified from headlamp to tailpipe. that's certified head turns. and it's all backed by our unlimited mileage warranty. that means unlimited peace of mind. mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. translation: the mercedes of your dreams is closer than you think.

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chris cuomo has stopped covering his brother on air and added "it was an inappropriate to engage in conversations that include members of the governor's staff which chris acknowledges he will not participate in such conversations going forward. jesse, what you think that? >> jesse: i think they have three problems. one, they should never have tagged cuomo as a journalist at cnn. he is an opinion guy and if you tag someone as a journalist they have to abide by very strict journalistic guidelines. if you are an opinion guy you can maybe tell a politician, hey, walk watch out for the fake news, it's a different dynamic. i completely understand helping your brother out, he's your brother, you're going to help them out but now the stench of cuomo the elder has gotten on cuomo the younger and that stench is now wafting down the hallways at cnn and that is also the problem, the third problem is staffers at cnn are going to hate this, especially female

staffers and that's an internal problem they're going to have to deal with. i did find it ironic that cuomo on his show has mocked the idea of cancel culture yet advised his older brother to use cancel culture as an excuse to make his problems go away. he does seem like the golden boy over there at cnn, i don't know, he was in 29th place on tuesday. no one's watching his show, for some reason he's protected over there, maybe he's just a really nice guy. >> dana: 29th but who's counting. i think it's reprehensible and they obviously skipped the lesson in ethics, they should be ashamed of themselves, with a who asked governor cuomo, his book is written on the backs of dead new yorkers and he snapped at them and said these are lessons we should learn from the pandemic. the first one is don't put

covid-positive patience in nursing homes with healthy people who then succumbed to the illness and die. he hasn't taken responsibility for that or the sexual harassment allegations, he's blamed his accusers and if that's the advice is brother is giving him they should both be ashamed of themselves. katie? >> katie: so we all know that governor cuomo has bad judgment but the idea that he would call his brother chris cuomo when he has all these resources, lawyers to talk to, the government of new york to talk to about handling situations and the fact that they weren't smart enough to have a personal call rather than jumping on a conference call where there were other people listening, again shows that their judgment is really bad in if it was happening at another network with this massive conflict of interest on a basic level with chris cuomo being related to the governor and having to cover the state of

new york, that's conflict by itself but you had all this other stuff in there and you do wonder what jessie said, why did they continue to protect him this way? >> dana: that's a great point that katie made which is, i can understand wanting to talk to your brother but to do it with government staffers on the phone seems like bad judgment. >> juan: yeah, it was wrong, it's hard to condemn a man who wants to help his brother. blood runs deep, you know? and in the cuomo family politics and media i think our family business but clearly this crossed a line in terms of journalistic ethics, he should never have been on that call, he acknowledges that and says that he wouldn't do it again. it's going to hurt him and his family in this business to do that. it's just sad. >> kennedy: want, thank you. chicago's democratic mayor defending her decision to only

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♪ ♪ >> kennedy: chicago mayor lori lightfoot defending her decision to only give interviews to nonwhite reporters. the mayor said this. speak with the facts are the facts and the fact is that this press corps does not reflect the diversity of the city and it makes a difference in the kinds of coverage. we are having a powerful, important conversation around systemic racism in every

institution and the media can't be exempt from that conversation. >> kennedy: juan, this is overwhelming zero-sum racial bias on her part. there is no way around that, i don't understand how she wants to exclude an entire racial category of reporters who might ask her some very important questions, how do you feel about this? >> juan: i think she's got a very important point, kennedy, it's hard to argue that the legacy, the old-school major media platforms in chicago are overwhelmingly white. i don't think we can argue that. i think she wants to make a point encouraging diversity in the media, she opens the door for people to say something, this is reverse racism. obviously the status quo it might be described as real racism. what she's doing is ineffective,

i would say, because it will be more effective if she said something like, i'm going to give interviews to younger people, as more of the minority outlets, i'm going to give a greater share to them because i'm then it wouldn't come across in this way, it wouldn't allow her critics to suddenly scream reverse racism where she could use the interviews of anybody to talk about the need to invite more voices to be heard on life and politics in chicago, that would be more effective. i think is just ham-handed. >> kennedy: that's a really good point and when i read the story the first thing i thought is, when i go to the journalistic school and go back a few steps and make sure that their outreach and their recruiting includes a number of different voices. this just seems like she is protecting herself from certain reporters asking certain questions, dana.

>> dana: i remember especially as she really tried to make sure that schools could reopen in chicago there was no show that covered it more than the ones here at fox news, really hoping to drive and to my thinking, whenever you're trying to communicate, what's your goal, what do you want to achieve? she wants bad press about her two years, how are you going to do that? by taking it to step she's basically just modeled all of that, no one's talking about the two year tenure, everyone's talking about the salon and i think it was completely ineffective as one said but also i think it gets increasingly to figure out who is going to qualify under her categories. because the latino reporter that was off of the interview declined to do it and said actually, i think that her policy is wrong, i'm not going to do it. when you look at the census especially for younger americans as they start to be asked questions, how do you identify?

many of them are of mixed race. are you white, you brown, i don't know. to me a blind test in terms of who is a reporter, a good report i would be a better way to go about this. >> kennedy: absolutely. jesse, how are things going in chicago? >> jesse: not well. last weekend, 37 people shot, six kids. i know, it doesn't matter to me who asked her questions, black, white, purple, ask how she's going to stop the bloodshed on the south side, right? who cares who asks her the question, she can have women ask, she can have -- notice or she doesn't let ask her questions, the conservatives very conservative reporters are probably the most discriminated reporter there, you put a tenacious conservative, you give them access to city hall, they will take her apart in 10 minutes on a live shot. 10 minutes. it's all you need because she doesn't have a plan and this is

just a distraction to divert from a really bloody summary in my other question is, why isn't the liberal media hiring more black reporters? she said they are underrepresented from of the liberal newspaper barons do the hiring in chicago, all the network affiliates run by liberals, why aren't rich white so-called open minded liberals hiring black reporters flex oh >> kennedy: katie? >> katie: this mayor is not engaged in reverse racism, she's just engaged in racism by choosing people to cover her as a government official based on her skin color, maybe she should be more focused on black victims in her city being shot by the dozens every weekend rather than focusing on this absurd equity argument that has poisoned any kind of logical thought in big cities around the country. when you are engaging in an

equity argument, you have to discriminate against somebody, some people in order to make your case for a lot of our diversification of whatever group of people you're trying to engage in and so somebody eventually has to sue over these things. it's a violation of the civil rights act, you can't discriminate against people based on race and if you don't think about merit and pick the best person for the job, well, then everybody gets a fair shot. >> kennedy: we will see if there is solidarity within the chicago press. thank you. a shocking claim about ufos, former top military officials of the government has a physical proof that they've got the goods. that's next. ♪ ♪

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in our former pentagon official making this explosive claim. speak on the united states government as a possession of exotic material and i will leave it at that, there are pockets of the u.s. government willing to have a conversation and conduct analysis, i'm not going to say with those elements are because i'm worried, frankly, for the same type of reprisal that i'm facing currently. >> juan: dana, do you believe in ufos? any of your family, friends? >> dana: you are leading me down a path where someone i am very close to will be frustrated with me for characterizing this incorrectly. for ten years on the show anytime we would talk about ufos, i am such a skeptic, no. but you had the interview last night, another guy on "america's newsroom," president obama did that interview where he was asked about this and he was very cautious in choosing his words

and i was looking at them thinking, okay, there is something here, then, he was trying not to reveal whatever he knows in terms of classified information. i guess there's three possible estimations in my mind. that maybe it's something that it's technology we are testing our technology somebody else's testing, or their is extraterrestrials because as that person who lives in my house and is very close to me said, they are defying the laws of physics as we know them. i am not as much of a skeptic. >> juan: jesse, with all this world of cameras, social media, no secrets, shouldn't there be some hard evidence? >> jesse: first of all, how did obama let it slip and trump didn't? yeah, i need to see evidence and i don't want to see like a little funny looking metallic scrap of metal from neptune, i want to see little green men with bug eyes, right? i want to see james carville

face with a gecko lizard body, that's the evidence i need to see, right now i need to be convinced. i'm sure they are observing us, juan, and i can guarantee you they are disappointed in what they are seeing down here. it's all violence and pandemic and the cuomo brothers. i'm sure they are just radioing back to the captain, yeah, this little planet is obsessed with race and bitcoin. they are light years behind us, i think we just get this whole galaxy. >> dana: the princess diana interview from 1995. >> juan: katie, maybe we should build a wall, what you think? >> katie: well, i'm looking at that ufo on the screen from the department of defense and that looks like a cicada to me and i've seen lots of those flying around. also i just want to know if i can pay these ufos to hitch a ride to space.

how much does it cost? take me up, i think i'd be fun. >> jesse: it's like anna cooper. a >> juan: do you think they'd be her they be foes? >> kennedy: we don't know. if you see "mars attacks" they appear friendly but they emulsify you pay they are here, they are real and if you are watching, hi, guys. >> juan: [laughs] i bet they'd like you, kennedy. >> kennedy: take one first. >> juan: all right, "one more thing" is up next right here on "the five." ♪ ♪ [sfx: kids laughing] [sfx: bikes passing] [sfx: fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. okay. mother and child in vehicle. mother is unable to exit the vehicle. injuries are unknown. thank you, onstar. ♪

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virginia professor dr. mcjay who wrote a peculiar called "the defining decade." this is all an episode devoted to the graduates of 2021. congratulations to you all great advice in there also, did i an interview with an adorable 7-year-old from idaho, her name is emmy eat ton. she had seven questions from me. i answered them all very honestly. here is a clip. >> question number one: what's your favorite part about your job? >> dana: i love reading the news and talking about the news. when i worked at the white house i used to answer questions about the news. so this is just perfect for me, this job. i love being involved in journalism and working with my friends here at fox. >> i love doing journalism, too. >> dana: i can tell. >> dana: jesse, i highly recommend an interview for you for your book tour. big sales. >> jesse: that is the cutest thing i have ever seen. i love that dana. speaking of my book though, dana, we are debuting a little

segment where i will be reading a titillating excerpt from how i saved the world, so here we go. let's begin. dick was 50 and intimidating and i was still drunk. this was a bad situation so i got changed and jumped into his truck. 45 minutes later i'm an alcoholic anonymous meeting. it's a public school classroom filled with drunks and drag addicts and me. so if you want to find out how that whole situation got resolved, go to amazon or harper collins.com, wherever books are sold, order that and it will come on july 6th. >> vivid image. >> jesse: kennedy? >> kennedy: thank you, jesse. you want to know where he stole the book it's from my podcast which you can find on fox news podcast it's called kennedy saved the world. tomorrow i will be talking to california gubernatorial hopeful kevin rapalo about ending high speed rail in california. legalizing gambling across the

entire state and cutting taxes drastically. is he a very interesting candidate and also a very quick video of a -- he was having grinded, child being pulled by rc car and that's remote in his hand. he is doing no pushing at all. >> smart dad. >> jesse: all right, juan, take itht. so with the pandemic easing, big weddings are making a comeback. take a look at a groom ready for a first look at his bride in her wedding dress but he is the one who gets the surprise. [laughter] >> oh my god. [laughter] >> juan: obviously that wasn't the bride. it was his friend, his best man dressed up in a wedding gown. that video has attracted over 750,000 views on tiktok. now, that's a wedding joke

that's going to last a lifetime. >> jesse: katie, there is no time and thank god we are running out of time. there was a few things i was going to say about that video that i probably just shouldn't say. and we want to go right to "special report" with shannon bream. go ahead, shannon. >> shannon: jesse, i'm still trying to recover from your tease. you are quite a good tease. >> jesse: that's what they say. thank you. >> shannon: good evening from washington i'm shannon bream in for bret baier. breaking tonight, we are awaiting remarks from president biden on a cease-fire after 11 days of fierce fighting between israel and palestinians. we're going to bring those to you live when they happen. prime minister benjamin netanyahu cabinet unilateral cessation of hostilities that's scheduled to begin in two hours. we have fox team coverage. let's begin near the gaza border