available now, fox news podcast for apple or spotify or google or amazon or wherever you listen to your audio entertainment, go get the will cain podcast and hang out with me at least twice a week. my good friend lawrence jones is taking over the seat next week 7:00 eastern monday. up until then, tucker carlson next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson and happy friday. one of the first questions that rational people ask and there still are some rational people out there after the coronavirus arrived in the u.s. last year was simple, where did this disease come from? finding out was more than a matter of simple curiosity, it was an urgent public health imperative. you want to prevent the next disaster, you have to determine how the current disaster happens

and if we didn't investigate plane crashes very carefully, planes would keep crashing and you would never fly. it so is this virus spread around the world and the rest of us waited for some credible public health authority, anyone to come forward with details on where it came from, no i never did come forward. instead, they told us what was completely ridiculous story. they said a seafood market in central china was selling mammals, exotic ones like pangolin's and they somehow became a vector for infection so the chinese eat weird food and that's what they told us where they knew that wasn't true and they knew it very early. on february 6 of 2020, scientists uploaded a paper on the origins of coronavirus onto the internet. they had a very different view

of what happened. the virus likely came from an animal called the intermediate because there are no known colonies of horseshoe bats within 900 kilometers of wuhan nor are these bats sold in the famous wet markets there. in fact, the scientists interviewed nearly 60 people who worked for a shop in the wet market and all confirmed no horseshoe bats for sale. so they believe covid jumped from bats to people when and where and how did that happen? the scientist noted the obvious. within 400 yards with something called the wuhan centers for disease control and prevention. turns out that facility used intermediate horseshoe bats for research, then 7 miles away was another facility called the wuhan institute of virology. the wuhan institute of virology also conducted research on intermediate horseshoe bats.

so the conclusion is obvious, "the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in wuhan. that was the first week of february in 2020. that research sat on the internet for weeks before the chinese authorities finally pulled it down and they have. we don't know what happened to people who wrote it but we have a copy. the amazing thing is even though this was public, health officials in the west ignored it completely. when they were asked about the possibility that this virus had come from a lab in wuhan, they became hostile and hysterical. in a post on the national institutes of health web site, francis collins who should know better dismissed all questions about a lab leak in wuhan as "outrageous," like you were sinful for asking the question. they were not outrageous, they

were entirely plausible. last fall, we spoke to someone with firsthand knowledge of the subject, an eminent chinese virologist who worked on covid in china in the early days of the pandemic. she was certain based on what she had seen that this virus came from a lab in wuhan. on september 15th, 2020, came on the show and said so. >> scientific evidence to our audience that this virus covid-19 actually is not from nature. a high work with the premier virologist in the world so together, i can tell you this is created in a lab, this is from and owned by the chinese military and also it has spread to the world make damage. >> tucker: to make such damage. do you believe the chinese

government released this intentionally, on purpose, did they do this? >> yes, of course intentionally. >> tucker: that was a strong claim, but had even stronger credentials, once again, was a chinese virologist who personally did research on covid in china at the very beginning of the outbreak so she was not in internet fact dealer, she had informed firsthand knowledge about how this pandemic started, not many people can say that, but she could and she didn't know when listen to her. instead, the usual liars went to work immediately to discredit her personally. the so-called effect checking web site attacked her claims as an inaccurate and ridiculous. they never explained how they could know that, did the gender studies majors have access to superior science, we are thinking they didn't but they went ahead anyway and accused her of being a pants on fire

liar and she should have sued them. that claim immediately swooped in to make the whole topic disappear. facebook censored her interview and then deleted it completely. instagram which is owned by facebook followed suit. both those companies used politifact's claims to justify their own censorship and cnn swooped in at the end to celebrate the whole thing. >> the other day, interviewed a whistle-blower who claimed that she had evidence of a covid-19 conspiracy in wuhan, china, but when videos were shared on social media, facebook and instagram intervened by putting the false information label on it. >> tucker: catch that? the media monopolies intervened so this was not a matter of soulless left-wing corporations committing the censorship to cover for their masters, not at all. it was an intervention done for your good. at the time, there was a

political subject, donald trump was the president and partisans in the media felt they had no choice but to kill the story. of china turned out to be responsible for the covid-19 pandemic, then trump would be less responsible and he might be reelected so they kept lying for partisan reasons about this virus in the science around it. we saw a report the same thing with their coverage of the drug hydroxychloroquine. once he touted it, they called it poison, et cetera. but it's a new day now, joe biden is in the white house, that got him elected some some journalists have decided it is safe and they couldn't drop the post, a number of prominent liberals have publicly reassess their views on where this virus came from. yes, they have admitted the virus did emerge from a lab in wuhan. the physical evidence for that is overwhelming. this virus did not evolve in nature, read the pieces, they're interesting. this virus was instead enhanced

during lab experiments very dangerous experience that were paid for in part by american taxpayers from grants that tony fauci himself signed off on. that is all true. they are admitting it now, even politifact has retracted its claim that she is a pants on fire liar and she should sue them and they should be ashamed. facebook does far too much business in china to within the chinese military so as of tonight, her interview was still missing from facebook but she is very much still here. she has left her home in china, cannot return and fears arrest were she to go home. thought they would be worth talking to her tonight. an independent coronavirus expert and happy to have her. thank you so much for coming on tonight. so i have to say i don't do

victory laps in general but if anyone has been vindicated and proven right, it's you. how do you feel watching the media admit if they are not crazy? >> thanks for having me again and i appreciate your great effort in telling the truth especially when we have to face so many attacks from the parties and more and more people say this virus is not from nature. also a function in this is partly funded using taxpayer money and is the chinese communist party and the chinese army. >> tucker: so you came on the show on september 15th 6 months before that, seven months before

that chinese researchers were suggesting the same thing in a paper that we just quoted at some length and yet american public health authorities. said this is a lie, this is not true, we know for a fact it's not true. why do you think they said that? >> because china doesn't want anyone to understand, they want to make it look from nature and their power and influence and manipulating the information campaign and working with them to spread which will mislead people and the people will know that it comes from a lab, so also the potential behind this pandemic so that's the reason they want to and then get enough

time to do the same thing like waste your time and with your energy and reach their achievements by using this virus. >> they clearly succeeded in doing that, american researcher scientists are not supposed to lie and they did life, all of them lied and i should restate when you first came on, you explained looking at the virus itself, you could tell that this did not emerge from nature, that this was created in a lab. >> yes. what i can also explain to you is the function modification increasing covid-19 virus is

basically not for any purpose. you give a toy gun to your kid and you will make it safe, but they make these so-called toy guns and then they give the kids that so it means after this function, it becomes very, very dangerous, so no way it is -- purposely modified to harm people and to target people. >> tucker: i'm impressed. a band that sounds exactly right to me. you told the truth about this early, you were attacked for doing that, not just by the chinese government come apparently you can't even contact her family back in

china, but you were attacked in this country by americans who should know better and who were lying. what has your life been like since you first came on the show? >> actually, a lot of attacks and also, i keep providing evidence and verified by independent source and i'm happy to see more and more people realize this virus in the chinese communist party is a good thing and also, what i want to say is now we need to call for all of society to realize this is very dangerous things already proved and realize that with the virus, you may not see a clear outcome, but this is

purposely modified to target humans so to ask and tell what they have done to manipulate this virus and also when you work together intentionally the outcome from the virus which is the harm to humans. we need to stop this thing together and we should not again. >> tucker: amen. this could be more dangerous than we realize, it's a scary point, but a good one. you should get the presidential medal of freedom and a fair and honest country you would. i appreciate your coming on tonight, thank you. i know our viewers do also. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: was locked down last year because the coronavirus they made no lab, you would think the country would be safer because more people would be inside but the opposite happened. united states is one of the most

dangerous years and decades. according to data collected by the fbi, murders in this country increase by 25% and in fact, that's probably a lowball. as of now, that means the united states have more than 20,000 murders last year, the highest number in 26 years, that rate was higher in the big cities in chicago for example, murders increased by more than 50% and in new york by 40%. one expert said last year was "the longest increase in violence we have seen since 1960, 61 years. so why has this happened? in a year when people are locked indoors, why are more people murdering each other? the geniuses at vox are completely baffled, we don't yet know what caused the violence, they wrote. actually, we do know. crime increased because they were more criminals on the

streets, fewer people that more criminals. politicians release them during the pandemic. according to reports the department of justice between march and june of last year, 208,500 inmates across the country received some form of expedited relief, some cities like new york released almost half of all its prison and jail inmates. they were released to limit inmate risk and exposure. for their safety, but what about your safety? that was not taken into consideration. apparently, they believe it would be better for society, better for all of us if criminals get out in the street. this criminals committed more crimes like many thousands more murders, that was worth it. by june, which is when hundreds of thousands of inmates had been released, almost 38 inmates across the country had died from

the coronavirus so it wasn't really about protecting them in this pandemic. they'd start releasing criminals, they haven't stopped. no longer even using coronavirus as an excuse for last month the state of california announced the inmates qualified for early release from prison come about a quarter of those had life sentences. what does it take to get a life sentence in california? a lot. 76,000. keep in mind, this is the same state where you can be charged with a misdemeanor and spend 90 days in jail if you violated your stay-at-home order. becoming clear? lockdowns normal decent law-abiding people release the criminals. they are trying to wreck the country. he wouldn't do this if you were trying. so democrats on capitol hill are calling for a 9/11 style

commission to investigate the insurrection of january 6, what is this about? of course, it's an effort as everything is to target their political enemies using law enforcement. there's at least one u.s. senator who is not for this and he will join us after the break.

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>> tucker: so the events of january 6th weren't just a political rally that got out of hand, some thugs who started doing appalling things the guards outside the capital, it was an insurrection, pearl harbor, it was 9/11. that's why we need a 9/11 style commission to investigate it. so they were more because we haven't talked about it enough. that's the position of democrats in congress. the real agenda is very different for people who oversaw the russian collusion hoax that want to keep investigating because it gives them power and of course this is all aimed at political opponents, this is the whole point. >> if they are unwilling to establish what would be in the best public interest, we will not let them go uninvestigated

so there were other alternatives, not as ideal as a bipartisan commissions we will make every effort to get that done but we are going to insist on getting that one way or another. >> tucker: ron johnson is a senator from the state of wisconsin, a republican, interested in what happened and is leading his own investigation into it. before i ask you about what you're finding about what happened, let me ask you should we trust the people who came up with russia gate that this is just a nonpartisan effort to get to the truth, what did you think this is really about? >> absolutely not and what it's all about is they are figuring out they can't impeach donald trump for a third time so this is the only way they can keep their false narrative that they were thousands of armed insurrectionist storming the capital intent on overthrowing this government and then by extension, they can paint with a very broad brush at the

75 million americans are potentially domestic terrorists and would be armed insurrectionist themselves if the fbi doesn't intervene soon enough so this is all about a narrative that pains donald trump supporters as threats to this nation. >> tucker: and to continue the most severe crackdown on civil liberties since the woodrow wilson administration, it's terrifying what is going on so i have some republicans fallen for this in the house? 35 of them i think. >> i suppose some of them take a look at what the media has done to me for pushing back, take a look at me as roadkill and say don't want any of that. so there is an enormous amount of media pressure in your previous guest has been vilified as well. it's amazing how you get attacked for telling obvious and simple truths. >> tucker: that's right. as long as you care, they control you. let me ask you, you've looked

into this as honestly as you can, how would you describe what happened on january 6th >> i would point everybody to the 14 page eyewitness account that i entered into our hearing record in february, our first hearing. by the way, i was vilified after that. the chairwoman said here senator johnson goes again entering another conspiracy theory into the record but this was written by a very knowledgeable observer, professor of political warfare at fort bragg and he wrote down before he listen to any news items and what he found as the vast majority of the people there were peacefully protesting in a jovial mood but he did recognize they were distinctly different. and laid out how these agitators were able to use that crowd and

being fired into the crowd which baffled into a certain extent as well, he should take a look at that accounting because as i traveled back to wisconsin, saying thank you for speaking the truth because what you're saying is what actually happened, now i have to say i condemn the violence. we all do. this repugnant and repulsive, cut off a very important debate about unlikely officials usurping the responsibility of state legislators and that's what that was the cutoff so that i am not happy with those protesters and people who committed acts of violence. i want them prosecuted, over 30,000 protesters there, the fbi has arrested 440, 125 have been charged with assaulting or resisting or impeding law enforcement or other officials, charged with entering

and remaining in restricted buildings around the restricted grounds. >> tucker: the only one willing to say that out loud the people who are being held in solitary for trespassing, we should be offended by that. and that's too much, why don't more people say that? >> we are looking into that, going to be writing to the attorney general in finding out the logistics on how many people were charged in the riots during the spring and summer to any 20, how are they handled? did you have s.w.a.t. team predawn raids for those individuals versus how were the

people, how are they handled? i will be asking a lot of questions and i hope we get some answers. >> tucker: really appreciate your coming on tonight and i love the fact that you know longer care, that's the key to freedom in this moment. thank you. >> i appreciate your reports. >> tucker: so antiwhite racism is exploding across the country, obviously no one wants to say it but it's right in your face every single day and now in the school systems. in discovered her whiteness, that should not be happening in america. play the video next.

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>> tucker: you've seen it countless times in the last year, really accelerated since george floyd died but affluent professional white people reaching a kind of religious

ecstasy talking about how much they despise themselves because of their own skin color. this variety of self-loathing appears to have taken its place. here's the latest example. >> yesterday, i realized that i might and that i have all the advantages of being part of that group, i was reading white fragility and i'm like oh, okay. i think i'm taking that next step in my journey to understanding what's happening, what equity is about, what racial equity is about, what antiracism is about and what racism is about, i realized that i'm white and it's part of the light supremacy culture. >> tucker: the next step of my journey. all of this at its root is pure narcissism and that's why it only appeals to a certain kind

of professional unhappy person not exclusively. anyway, it's terrible, it's racist by definition, you shouldn't hate people or yourself because of how you were born or your skin color, that's the opposite of what this country stood for, the opposite of what martin luther king preached and makes it impossible to live as a country if this continues but is continuing, it is accelerating for the state of washington just made antiwhite training mandatory for all staff in all public schools. he's been following this story, radio host in seattle and joins us tonight. good to see you. mandatory. >> it's mandatory and just to go over some of the training, only white people can be racist, was never actually abolished, low income white people are benefiting from their white privilege and that's just from highlighting public school district in seattle.

according to them, they have to start teaching the so-called antiracist equity training which is in favor of racism and does not lead to equitable outcomes, quite the opposite but a lot of school districts all across the state that are already doing this and this is one district that has been doing this for a year, every symposium which is where that video came from so one teacher who was upset about the documents put in front of this teacher and some the videos in the training actually leaked a lot of this to me and i pulled just some of the cuts including race is a social construct created to advance white supremacy and that if you get defensive when you are called a racist, that's also white supremacy culture in action. >> tucker: may i interrupt you right there? i don't think any of us want to live in a country where people are racially self-conscious that you don't want to live in that place, has it occurred to any of

these geniuses that they are going to make your average white person racially self-aware in a bad way if they keep up with this, they keep attacking people on qualities they can't control? do they know that? >> i don't think they realize they are doing that because they are talking to a very specific group of people that they are trying to become subservient to an ideological cause and they think they are justified in the shaming, the race-based shaming they are doing to these people and eventually doing to these kids. they are not really focused on the adults, they are talking to the kids. this training is going to be to staff members come up at the end goal is to propagandize and indoctrinate children. that's the end goal and when you get all of our nations kids believing this garbage, this toxic thinking, then when they are in charge, doesn't matter that older folks who are dying out actually hold that position.

that's how they think. they are trying to create a revolution one critical race theory training session at a time. it is nefarious in its intent and i don't think they realize or really care about the danger that it's creating in this environment and thankfully, there are teachers who are thinking a lot of this stuff out, who are complaining and who aren't going to put this in front of kids but it's the parents who need to step up and protect them from this. >> tucker: stop being passive, do something about this. this will wreck the country for real, really scary. i appreciate your reporting on it. thank you. so the biden administration immediately after taking power open the borders and created one of the worst surges of illegal immigrants in our country. how is that affecting the people who live on the boards.

the town is over 80% hispanic, republican constituent and he gave us an amazing sense of what it's like to live in the middle of this crisis. that's ahead.

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happening because migrants are being flown around the country, may be in your community, not something you voted on got a chance to vote on but if you live right along the southern border and a lot of people do, rio grande valley texas for example, this has changed your life. we spoke to someone at the very center of this crisis, the mayor in texas, he explained what this has meant for him, watch. >> we've always dealt with immigration, but most of the time, they were looking for work, just passing through, very humble, very nice but now this group that comes through is totally different than what we saw, we got 16,500 young male immigrants last month. last month. >> tucker: that's the size of your entire town. i'm good many of them came right

through. >> it's nonstop. >> tucker: you just made the point that you've dealt with immigration forever because you are on the border but the people you are seeing now are different, how are they different? we muck more aggressive, like you owe them something. the pictures that you show are very docile and humble people and that's not what we're seeing, you can talk to the border patrol, this group of people are very aggressive, they want to fight you come i don't want to stay, don't want to be caught and we use did not see that. now i've been married seven years now, going on my seventh year, i called senator cruz's office and i have get to hear from them. it's to no avail. it i cannot get a call back.

>> tucker: again, they call themselves conservatives, care about border security, the governor of your state is famously a republican, the last when you are ever to have. governor abbott, he says he believes in border security, what has he said to you? >> the same thing, i called governor abbott's office, talk to the secretary, talk to the staff one time but get no response. it's time for us as a state to say the federal government is not controlling this. our governor needs to quit wary about being reelected and say it's time we shut this border down in the federal government won't take charge of it, then we should. >> tucker: why wouldn't you do that? >> the constitution says of the government does it, we have the right to protect our borders and we are not because it's an invasion in our country. last month, 740 people that they

cross the border. >> tucker: so your governor strikes me as a total fraud, but convince me otherwise and he's a republican, he could just say this is our state, the state of texas and we are not putting up with this and we will seal our border because it's our state but he has refused to do that. >> i agree, he should say that. to finish the border wall. >> tucker: that went on for nearly an hour, told us about car chases with armed gunmen coming through his town every day, the schools are closed because of it, really worth watching, the latest episode of tucker carlson today is on foxnation.com. so cdc has new guidance for the country, has nothing to do with corona. it's about chickens. you're going to want to hear it,

that's next.

>> tucker: like all obedient americans, we are pretty dialed into what the cdc has to say about our lives, and they have new guidance and it was about chickens. the cdc is warning americans about chickens and we are quoting now, don't kiss or

snuggle backyard poultry and don't eat or drink around them. that raises the question, who are these chicken toucher's and we are not judging, just would like to know. are there people in this country who snuggle chickens? they are and not judging, we found one. here she is. >> my name is cara, i'm 27, and i'm a chicken enthusiast. i love you so much. my chickens are like my babies. i don't have actual babies, these are my human babies. i have one special chicken, her name is sheila. she does everything with me. this is my one true love. pretty cute, do you think she likes chickens? >> tucker: the chicken enthusiast and we are happy to have her on tonight. thank you so much for coming on. that's a good-looking bird. it feels like you've been singled out by the cdc for

criticism. how does that feel? >> i'm not a huge fan of it because i have been handling chickens since i was four years old and i've been kissing them. and i don't see a problem with it. it's a domesticated animal, right? why do you think there's the concern now, why are they coming after you now? >> i think they are just looking for something else to control and i'm not a huge fan and i don't support it so i'm just going to keep doing what i'm doing and keep loving on my birds and showing them my affection. >> tucker: is that she looked? >> this is not sheila.

this is bad boy halo emma one of my roosters i had back in february and he is a really important in my flock. >> tucker: what kind of pet does he make, people think of chickens as eggs and dinner, you were describing a whole new way of looking at chickens, are they good pets? >> i fully support everybody owning a chicken in their lifetime. they are way smarter than people give them credit for. they have facial recognition, they know exactly who i am when i pulled up to my house, they are all around great pets. amazing personalities and people are saying they are dumb and stupid and they are not, not even for a second. >> tucker: love got to ask you sincere enthusiast and an

expert, someone told me that chickens are so dumb if you face them in a corner, they can't get out. is that true? >> liver made that up has something up against birds and it's not true at all. sometimes they get stuck in the corners but for the most part, they can figure it out. >> tucker: you are totally winning me over. how many chickens do you have? >> i have 30. >> tucker: do you live in a rural area? >> i live out kind of more towards the outskirts of the city and i have 22 acres there with all of them living there with me. >> tucker: last question, are these house birds? i'm not trying to ask if they sleep on the bed but i'll ask, do they sleep on the bed? >> when i have chicks, i have been known to bring them inside, roll them up in a towel and they will sleep next to me and it will be like a chicken burrito

and sometimes they will come inside if i need to give them a bath or clean them but they are comfortable inside. >> tucker: i am such a believer. thank you so much for coming on today, that was great. >> you are so welcome, thank you for having me. >> tucker: thank you. new episode of tucker carlson today out monday, you can catch the latest on fox nation. have the best we can with the ones you love. see you next monday. ♪ ♪ >> welcome to the special edition of hannity. i'm jason chaffetz in tonight for sean and for the hour, we will discuss how biotin is weak, feckless agenda is seriously harming our country. former acting department of homeland security mark byrne of edge will join us at the very latest from the crisis at our southern border, senator madison cawthorn will be here with