up until then, tucker carlson next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." happy friday. one of the few questions rational people asked after the coronavirus arrived in the u.s. last year was simple, where did this disease come from? finding out was more than a matter of simple curiosity. it was an urgent public health imperative.nt if you want to prevent the next

disaster, you have to figure out how the disaster happen. if we didn't investigate plane crashes very carefully, planes would keep crashing and you would never fly. so as this virus spread around the world last year, the rest of us waited for some critical public health authority, anyone to come forward with details and where it came from. but nobody ever came with it. they told us what was in retrospect a completely ridiculous story. they said a seafood market in central china for reasons no one ever explained, selling mammals, exotic ones like pangolins and those pangolins became a vector for infection. so the chinese eat weird food, that's why the world is sick. that's what they told us. in china, they knew that wasn't true. they knew it very early. february 6th of 2020, right at the very beginning, scientists from the south china university of technology uploaded a paper of the origins of coronavirus on the internet.. they had a very different view

of what happened. the virus the scientist said likely came from an animal called the intermediate horseshoe bat. it's interesting they said because there are no known colonies of intermediate horseshoe bats within 900 kilometers of wuhan nor are these bats sold in the famous wet market. the scientists interviewed nearly 50 people who work or shop in the wet market who all confirmed no horseshoe bats forl sale. they believe covid jumped from batts to people. when, where, how did that happen? the scientists noted the obvious but within a few yards of the wuhan wet market was a wuhan center of disease control and prevention. that facility use intermediate horseshoe bats for research. about 7 miles away was another facility, this one is called the wuhan institute of virology. also conducted research on intermediate horseshoe bats. for these chinese scientists who

were working on the ground at the epicenter of the outbreak, at the very beginning of the outbreak, the conclusion was obvious. the coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in wuhan. first week of february in 2020. that research sat on the internet for weeks before the chinese authorities finally pullede it down and they have. we do not know what happened to the people who wrote it. but we have a copy. the amazing thing is that even though this was public, health officials in the west ignored ir completely. when they were asked about the possibility that this virus came from as lab in wuhan, they becae hostile. in some cases the became hysterical. on a post in the national institute of health's website, nih director francis column who should know better dismissed all questions about a lab leak in wuhan as "outrageous," like you are sinful for asking the question. those portions were not

outrageous. they were entirely plausible. we spoke with someone with firsthand knowledge of the subject. eminent chinese virologist who worked on speed 26 in china in the early days of the pandemic. she was convinced based on what she had seen that this virus came from a lab in wuhan. came on the show and said something. >> from my first report, that we can ask plane everything to our audience that this virus actually is not from nature. i work with the top coronavirus virologist in the world. so together with my experience, i can tell you that this is created in a lab. oh and by china, and it spread to make damage. >> do you believe that the

chinese government released this intentionally on purpose? did they do this? >> yes, of course it's intentionally. >> that was a strong claim. but had even stronger credentials. oncer again, she's a chinese virologist who personally did research on covid in china at the very beginning of the outbreak. she was not an internet no one listens to her. instead the usual liars went to work immediately to discredit her personal leave. the so-called fat checking website "politifact" attacked the doctor's claims. did the gender study majors at "politifact" had access to superior science? they went ahead and accused a

pants on fire liar. she should've sued a them. that claim was enough or big techim. immediately swooped in to make the whole topic disappear. facebook censored our interview and deleted it completely. instagram owned by facebookth followed suit.es both those companies use politifact's claims to jump the button on censorship and see and then swooped in at the end to celebrate the whole thing. >> yesterday, carl's sins interview with a "whistle-blower" who had evidence of a conspiracy in wuhan, china. but when videos were shown on social media, facebook and instagram intervened by putting a false information label on it. >> tucker: did you catch that? according to cnn, the media monopolies intervened. so this was not a matter of soulless left-wing corporations committing censorship to cover for their masters in the chinesl communist party, they said it was an intervention, done for

your own good. at the time of course, there was a political subtext.p donald trump was the president and partisans in the media felt they had no choice but to kill the story. if china turned out to be responsible for the covid-19 pandemic, donald trump would be lessss responsible for the pandemic and he might be reelected. so they kept lying for partisan reasons about this virus and the science around it. use our reporters doing the same thing with their coverage of the drug are t clocks of chlorine hydroxyl chlorine.it's a new da. joe biden is in the white house. they got him elected. some generalists decided it is safe and theyy can drop the pos. a number of prominent vehicles have reassessed their views on where the virus camels r from. yes, they have admitted, the virus did emerge from a lab in wuhan. the physical evidence of that is overwhelming. this virus did not evolve in nature. read the pieces, they are interesting. this virus was instead enhanced

during lab experiments pluralist. reckless, ghoulish, they were paid for in part by american taxpayers from grants that tony fauci signed off on. they are admitting it. even politifact retracted its claim.ul she should sue them. they should be ashamed. facebook interestingly has not reassessed. apparently facebook does far too much business in china to offend the chinese military. as of tonight, our interview is still missing from facebook. but very much still here. she left her home in china, cannot return, cannot speak to her family. she instead moved to the united states, a country she imagined was free. we thought it would be worth talking to her tonight. independent coronavirus expert and happy to have her. thanks so much for coming on.

so if anyone has been vindicated, proven right, it is you. how do you feel watching the media admit that you are not crazy? >> hi, tucker. thanks for having me again. i want to appreciate your great effort in telling the truth especially when we are taking attacks from the chinese, and his party. more and more people realize that this virus is not from nature. at the result, that makes things a function project. this project is funded by nah using the u.s. taxpayer money it's the chinese army. >> tucker: you came on the show on september 15th 6 months

before that, seven months before chinese researchers wereef suggesting the same thing in a paper which is quoted for at some length. an american public health authorities, said this was a live here we know for fact this is notor true. why do you think they said that? >> that's because china doesn't want everyone to understand, they want to make it look like it's from nature, they group their prowler dell my power influence, they use enough incentive to work with them to spread the nature of the theory which we are misleading people and people note that it does come from the lab so they will not notice the motive and also the potential hang up behind his pandemic. so that's what the chinese communist wants to do, and then

they have enough time to do the same thing like waste your time and waste your energy and they can reach their achievement by using the virus. >> they succeeded in doing that. american researchers scientists public health officials are not supposed to live. they did live, all of them liedd to. without getting all the science, when you first came on you explained and correct me if i'm wrong, looking at the virus itself, you could tell that this did not emerge from nature, that this was created in a lab. >> yes. i can prove it by presenting the weakness and also the intelligence evidence in my prepublished report. and also what i can explain to you today is the function modification in this covid-19 virus.

it's basically not for any good purpose. it's like you want to give a toy gun to your kid as a toy, so you will remove the bullet and you will make it safe for a kid. but they make this so-called toy gun with bullets and also you leave it in the shop tonight, they gave the kids that same toy. so that means that after they cut on the function, it becomes very, very dangerous. so no way it's for a good purpose. so this is purposely modified and to hunt people to target people. >> i'm amazed that you can pull off an analogy like that in a second language. t you were attacked for doing that, not just by the chinese government, can't even contact your family back in china much less go there, but you were

attacked in this country by americans who should know better, who were lying. what is your life and likes into first came the show? >> actually yes, there are a lot of attacks and also i keep working in this and keep providing evidence and evidence gradually by independent thought, and i'm happy to see more and more people realize that this is a madman virus. that is a good thing, now we have to call foro all of socie, and also government people, to realize that this is a very dangerous virus now and make things things are already approved and you will realize that there are more things, more secrets into the virus. you may not see the clear

outcome. but this is modified to target humans. we should give more pressure to the chinese communist party to tell them what they have done to manipulate this virus and we need to work together to study the random and the intentional results that come out from the virus which gives a hard thing to humans. we need to stop this thing together. we should not stay in the lines again. >> tucker: this could be more dangerous than we realize. it's a scary point but a good one. you should get the presidential medal of freedom. enough they on this country you would. i appreciate you comingg on. i know our viewers do also. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: thank you. the whole country was locked down last year because the coronavirus, which scientists made in the lab. you think the country be safer because people were inside but the opposite happened.

the united states has one of the most dangerous years in decades. according to data collected by the fbi, murders in this country increased by 25%. in fact, that's probably a lowball. we do not have the complete data. won't have it later this year. that means the united states has more than 20,000 murders last year, the highest number in 26t years. that rate was higher in the big cities. i in chicago for example, murders increased by more than 50%. in new york, 40%. last year was "the largest increase in violence we have seen since 1960." so why has y this happened in a year where people were locked indoors, why are more people murdering each other? the geniuses at "vox" are completely baffled. we actually do know. crime increased because there were more criminals on the

streets. fewer people but more criminals but why were there were criminals on the street? because politicians release them during the pandemic.de according to a report in the department of justice between march and june of last year, 208,500 inmates across the country receive some form of expedited release. some cities like new york released almost half of all its prison and jail inmates. they were "released to limit inmate risk and exposure." in other words, for their safety. but what about your safety? that was not taken into consideration. they believe it would be better for society, for all of us, if criminals get out in thet streets. if those criminals committing more crimes, like many thousands more murders, that was worth it. by june, when they have been released, almost 38 inmates

across the country died from the coronavirus. it wasn't about protecting them from this deadly pandemic. and of course, now that the coronavirus is winding down can you think politicians would stop releasing criminals on the street. no longer even using coronavirus as an excuse. last month a state of california announced that 76,000 inmates qualify for early release from prison and about a quarter of those had life sentences. what does it take you for a license in california? a lot. so when you wouldn't want to sit next to. 76,000. stsay we've recharged if you violated your stay at home order. becoming clear? lockdowns, normal decent law-abiding people release the criminals. they are trying to wreck the country. you wouldn't do this if you do trying. so the democratsem on capitol hl are calling for a 9/11 style

commission to investigate the insurrection of january 6th. what's this about? it's an effort, as everything is, to target using law enforcement. at least one u.s. senator who is not for this as they join us after the break to explain why.

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>> tucker: so the events of january 6th weren't just a political rally that got out of hand. some thugs who started to do appalling things to guards outside the capital. no. it was insurrection, like civil war or, like pearl harbor. it was really like 9/11. that's why we need a 9/11 style commission to investigate it, to learn more because we haven't talked about it enough. that's the position of democrats inat congress. the real agenda is very different. people who oversaw the russian collusion hoax want to keep investigating because it gives them power. of course, this is all for political points, that's the whole point. >> if they are willing to establish what would be the best public interest and we will let

the events go uninvestigated. they are not as ideal as a bipartisan commission so will make every effort to get that done but we are going to insist getting answers one way or another. >> ron johnson is the senator from the state of wisconsin. he is a republican and interested in what happened in leading his own investigation in. before i ask you what you are finding about what happened but we also live on television, let me ask you, should we trust the people who came up with russiagate that this is a nonpartisan effort to get to the truth. what do you think this is really about? >> absently not. they are probably figuring out that they cannotur impeach donald trump for a third time so this is the only way that they can keep the false narrative that there were thousands of armed insurrectionists who stormed the capitol and by exextension they can paint a vey

broad brush, 75 million americans voted for donald trump are potentially domestic terrorists and would arm dell might be armed insurrectionists itself ifn' the fbi doesn't intervene enough. this is all about a narrative that pains donald trump supporters as threats this nation. >> tucker: to continue the most cracked out and civil liberties, terrifying what's's going on. why haven't republicans all in for this the house? >> take a look at what the media has done to me. they push it back, they tell you to look at me as roadkill and go, don't want any of that. there is an enormous amount of media pressure. your previous guest been through her little fight as well. amazing you get attacked just by telling obvious and simple truths. >> tucker: that's right.

so let me ask you, you came up to this. ases honestly as you can, how cd you describe what happened january 6th. >> i would point everybody to the 14 page eyewitness account that i entered into our hearing record in february, our first hearing. by the way, i was vilified after that for the chairman came out and said here comes jonathan again, enteringto another conspiracy theory. this was written by michael waller. he went to observe any dead and he wrote down his eyewitness account before he listened to any news items, news reports. what he found is the vast majority of the people there were peacefully protesting, in a jovial mood, but he did recognize about four groups that were distinctly different. people who were determined. he really laid out in 14 pages what happened, how these agitators were able to use that

crowd combined with tear grass being fired into the card which was baffled in a certain sense as well, you need to take a look at that counting, i talked to scotsman and they said thank you for speaking the truth because what you are saying is what actually happened and that's the truth. i have to say, i condemned the violence. it was repugnant, repulsive. i wasn't happy, he cut off a very important debate about courts and other officials disturbing the legislature. that's what it was about on january 6th. i'm not happy with those protesters and the people who committed acts of violence, i want them prosecuted. 125 have been charged with assaulting or resisting or impeding law enforcement orin other officials.

remaining in restrictive buildings are on restrictive grounds. maybe another hundred arrested. highly concerned about the unequal administration of justice. going to be checking it out as well. >> tucker: you are one of the only republicans in the entire congress who is willing to say that out loud. you condemned the violence that day. people held >> tucker: if they wereand tea e offended by that. why don't more people say that? >> we are looking into that. we are going to be riding into the attorney general and find out what the statistics are if how many will charge in more than 5,000 riots during the spring and summer 2020, how are they handled? did you have a s.w.a.t. team. all raids to rest as individuals

versus people on january 6th, how are they handled. hopefully it'll bring some answers. >> tucker: senator, i really appreciate you coming on tonight and i love the fact that you know longer care. that's the key to freedom at this moment. >> appreciate your oversight and appreciate the reporting period you bitten doing yale man work on all of this. so antiwhite racism exploding across the country. nobody wants to say it, and now it's in the school system. one teacher even cried when she "discovered her whiteness." this should not be happening in america. we will show you the video next.

>> tucker: you see countless times in theke last year, it's really accelerated in the last year since george floyd died. affluent professional white people reaching a kind of

religious ecstasy talking about how much they despise themselves because of their own skin color. mainstream protestantism died in this country and this variety of self-loathing appears to have taken its place. here's the latest example. >> yesterday, i realized that i am white and that i have all the advantages of being part of that group. "i think i'm taking that next step in my journey to understanding what's happening, what equity is about, what racial equity is about, what antiracism is about, and what racism is. i realize that ize am white as part of a whites premises culture. >> tucker: the next step of my journey -- all of this by the way at its root is pure narcissism and that is why it

only appeals to a certain type of professional class unhappy person. female to totally be honest about it. but not usually.ib it's terrible. racist by definition but you shouldn't hate people because of their skin color. the opposite of what this country stood for, the opposite of what martin luther king preached, and itpr makes it impossible to live as a country if this continues but if it's actually continuing, it's accelerating.on the state of washington made and how a training compulsory in all schools. jason, good to see you. mandatory? >> yeah. it has a touring slavery was neveractually abolie white people are benefiting from their white privilege, thatt is some highlighting public schools, a district little bit south of seattle.

according to the law, all these schools actually have to start teaching the so-called "antiracist equity training which ishi in favor of racism ad does not lead to equitable outcomes. quite the opposite. a lot of school districts that are alreadyis doing this and ths is one district for example doing this for years. one teacher is pretty upset the documents wereea put down, the videos in the training, they leaked a lot of this to me and i pulled some of the cuts including "race is a social construct created to advance white supremacy" and if you get defensive if you are called a racist, that's also what's mc culture in action. >> tucker: may either interrupt you right there? i do not think any one lives where you think about race all

the time. it's rolando. it's bad. has it occurred to any of these geniuses you make the average white person racially self-aware in a bad way if they keep up, they keep attacking people on the basis of things they can't control. they are creating radicalism, do they know that? >> i don't think they realize that they are doing that because they are talking to a very specific group of people that are trying to become subservient to an ideological cause. they think they are justified in the shaming, the race-based shaming that they are doing to these people and eventually doing to these kids. that's really what this is about. they are in focus on the adults. they are talking to the kids. this training is going to the staff members, but the end goal is to propagandize andna indoctrinate children. that's the end goal. when you get all of our nations' kid pluralists believing this toxic thinking, when they are in charge it doesn't matter the older folks who are dying out

actually hold that position, that's how they think. they are trying to create a revolution one critical race theory training session at a time. it really is nefarious in its intent and i do not think they realize or really care about the danger that it's creating in this environment. and thankfully there are teachers who are leaking a lot of the stuff out who are complaining, it's the parents that really need to step up and protect them from this. >> do something about this. thisil will wreck the country fr real. really scary. i appreciate your reporting on it. the biden administration immediately after taking power open the borders and created one of the worst surges in illegal immigrants in our country. we spoke to the mayor of a town

in texas right on the rio grande, on the mexican border, a town that's over 80% hispanic, he has full support of his constituents. he gives us an amazing sense of what it's like to be in this crisis.

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if you live where it's happening, migrants are being flown around the country, but it's happening. if you live right along the southern border and a lot of people do, this is completely changed your life. we spoke to someone at the very center of this crisis, the mayor of tebaldi, texas, don mclaughlin. watch. >> most of the time when they came out they were looking for work, they were just passing through, they were very humble, very nice. but now the groups that come through, it's totally different than what we saw. we caught 16,500 young male immigrants last month. >> that's the size of your entire town. >> that's what they call to your

it's nonstop. >> you made the point that you dealt with immigration forever because you are on the border. >> yes. >> tucker: the people you're seeing are different. >> they are more aggressive come if you like you them something. the pictures, very docile, that's not what we are seeing. you can talk to the border patrol, they are very aggressive. they want to fight you. people are nervous for seven years now, going on my seventh year. i have yet to hear from them. they want to tell me, but it goes to no t avail. as an elective official, i cannot get a call back.

>> they call themselves conservatives. care about border security,re probably the last when you were going to have. >> look that way. >> tucker: governor abbott says he believes in borderor security. >> i called governor abbott's office until i was blue to the face. controlling this where the governor to get reelected and say, you know it, it's time we shut this border down. >> tucker: why wouldn't she do that? >> i don't know why we are doing that. we have a right to protect our borders and we are not. dell rio last month, 740 people

today across the border. >> i just want to say his name again, governor abbott, strikes me as a total fraud. convince me otherwise. he is republican. he could just say that this is our state, the state of texas, we are going this seal are border but he has refused to do that. >> he should say that. there is a bill in the house for texas to finish the border wall in the state of texas and let out of committee. there's a lot of support in texas to rebuild the border wall. >> tucker: that conversation went on for nearly an hour. the mayor told us about car chases with armed gunmen coming through his town every day. the schools are closed because of it. new guidance for the country, nothing to t do with corona, its

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>> tucker: like all obedient americans, pretty dialed into with the cdc has to say about our lives. we have new guidance. for once it has nothing to do with the coronavirus. this guidance is about chickens. the cdc is warning americans about chickens and we are

don't eat or drink around them, end quote. who are these chicken tortures out there the cdc is concerned about? i'm not judging, i just like to know. are there people whose noble chickens? there are. not judging, we found one. here she is. >> i am a chicken enthusiast. >> i love you so much! one special chicken, her name is sheila i. this is sheila, my one true love. >> she's beginning to like chickens. >> the chicken enthusiast you just saw. happy to have her on tonight. thanks for coming on. that's a good-looking bird.

have you been singled out for criticism, how do you feel? >> i'm not a huge fan of it because i've been handling chicken since i was four years old, i've been snuggling them, shoving my face in them, people around me are fine. i don't see a problem with it. >> tucker: you are living the way people used to live for human beings have a long history with poultry. it's a domesticated animal, right? why do you think there is a concern now? why do you think they are coming after you, the cdc? >> i think they are looking for something else to control and i'm not a huge fan and i don't support it so i'm just going to keep doing what i'm doing. i'm going to keep loving on my birds and showing them my section. >> tucker: tell us what you are doing with those birds. does that bird -- is that

sheila? >> this is not she left. this bad boy halo. one of my roosters i hatched in february and he makes me babies and he's a real important in my flock. >> what kind of pet does he make? are people who think of chickens as eggs and dinner, you're describing a new way of looking at chickens. are they good pets? >> i fully support everybody owning a chicken in their lifetime. they are way smarter than people give them credit for. they had facial f recognition. all of our great pets. amazing personalities. and people over here saying that they are dumb and stupid, not even for a second. >> i've got to ask since you are

enthusiast and expert, someone told me thatex chickens are so dumb, if you face them in a corner, they can't get out. is that true? >> ever made that up, it's not true at all. they know exactly what to do. sometimes they get stuck in corners before the most part they can figure it out. >> you are totally winning mein over! how many chickens do you have? >> i have 30. >> tucker: do you live in a rural area? >> yeah. i live out more towards the outskirts of the city and i have about 22 acres there with a allf them living there with me. >> tucker: do they sleep on the bed? >> when i have chicks, when i hatched chicks, i have been known to bring them inside. i will roll them up on a towel, it would be like a chicken

burrito. sometimes they will come inside, like if i need to give them a bath or clean them. but they are pretty comfortable inside.e >> tucker: i am such a believer! thank you so much for coming on today. that was great. >> you are so welcome. thank you for having me. >> tucker: thank you. new episode of "tucker carlson today" out this weekend. enjoy your weekend with the ones you love. see you monday. >> jason: welcome to this special edition of "hannity." for the hour, we will announce how biden's weak, feckless agenda is seriously harming our country. forming acting department homeland security chad wolf and mark byrne of h will join us with the very latest from the crisis at our southern border. congressman madison cawthorn

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