at that shirt. this shirt is awesome you guys i love it so much. your code fox patriot is your ticket to a huge discount its been such a wonderful morning guys. will: glad to have you here. pete: great to have you here, fox & friends recess is now over will: i got the socks. >> i definitely won the game of life today. david: the irs saying "show me the money" in a big way, your bank statements, your venmo account and pay pal and other money-moving services may soon be subject to irs surveillance all without your knowledge or your permission this as the white house doubles down on its push for big spending and big tax hikes, does all of this just scream big brother? welcome, everyone. i'm david asman in for neil cavuto today and you're watching cavuto live. we begin at the white house on

this new irs push, mark meredith is there with details. will: david, good morning to you the white house wants to spend trillions of dollars investing in infrastructure and they want to raise taxes on corporations but the biden administration also wants to reshape how the irs does business. it's proposing some $80 billion for hiring including auditors, improving technology and it also wants to track tax evaders more closely and ensure people who cheat the tax code and get caught pay a hefty price to ensure the irs knows how much certain americans are making it's also proposing that banks hand over more information about its customers, the treasury department writing, "the irs will be able to deploy this new information to better target enforcement activity, increasing scrutiny of wealthy evaders and decreasing the likelihood that fully compliant taxpayers will be subject to costly audits" but critics will argue it could allow government to collect way too much information on its citizens. the debate is going to continue while the white house and

congress hammer out any potential deal on how much to spend on roads, bridges and airports to repair them, on friday, the white house presenting republicans a counter -proposal now pitching a $1.7 trillion plan. i apologize we don't have a sound bite we were going to play with jen psaki the white house press secretary from yesterday in which she said this is of course part of the negotiations that will still go and the white house believes they will still see a path forward on their spending plans but right now republicans not impressed with what they are seeing from the white house so far saying yesterday, they were "vast differences." the good news, david, is negotiations will keep going on as to how long they will last anybody's guess at this point. david? david: they are only a trillion dollars apart. reporter: [laughter] trillion here, trillion there, just adds up to real money. david: thank you very much, mark meredith well that critical detail in the irs surveillance was hidden deem inside the

treasury report on tax compliance data is this another move in america? here to discuss is steve moore, fed chair danielle de martino booth and fox news contributor adam lashinsky. good to see all three of you. steve, first given the irs, an open door to look into all of your money data, not only incoming, which is what the irs was meant to start doing, stuff that might reveal your political preferences and what could possibly go wrong with that. >> david, i remember i'm old enough to remember and you are when the left used to be very suspicious of the irs, that there was a civil liberties movement on the left that really worried about the abuses of irs agents, and they were as you mentioned, it goes back 50 or 60 years, the irs using its power to intimidate people and now you're looking at this vast

expansion of the powers of these irs agents. as a civil libertarian and someone who believes in financial privacy i find it deeply troubling, and i've always said the best way to get enforcement of the tax code, and i think, david, you believe this because our friend steve forbes talks about it have a very simple tax system. everybody pays, you don't have all these deductions, you don't have all these ways of your money, let's fix the tax system, not expand the irs. david: but adam, expanding it to give them permission to look into how we spend our money, not only how we receive our money, is really a tremendous expansion of its powers, and i'm wondering , you don't have to go back as steve did 50 or 60 years to see abuse. you can go back to during the obama administration and see plenty of abuse where people were targeted, based on their political views, right? >> okay, but david, i'm as much of a civil libertarian as you and steve are and you two are either purposely or maybe you don't know that you're leading

out a key detail, which is that the fact sheet proposal for this thing, and that's all it is -- david: i said it was a proposal go ahead. >> it says that they want to look at, they want to look at aggregate outflows and inflows so they want to provide a little more information to the irs that says david asman had way more of an outflow last year than he did five years ago. do you want to look further at that and as you know, the irs already has the power to look further when it thinks there's a problem. david: but this be unlimited, adam and give them an unlimited ability without any court order or anything, doesn't that frighten you at all? >> not necessarily on the aggregate data. look let's fight about this , but no one is suggesting unlimited going into my bank account which is what you're saying. david: have you read this over, adam? danielle let me switch to you because i have. i've read it in detail and it does, from my perspective and anybody's able to go in and find

out what the wording is, the wording of this is but it seems to give the irs unlimited powers to investigate and as we saw during the obama administration, i mean the obama administration had to apologize for what happened. this was an abuse of power, adam is very forgiving of the irs or believes they will be restrained, they weren't restrained and history gives us many examples of where it has been turned into a political tool against political enemies. >> well, so i have sympathy with what you're saying. i think what we need to realize and appreciate is the back drop here. just a matter of weeks ago, you know, the treasury department, the federal reserve, they were being accused of being ostriches with their heads in the sand, china's pushing forward aggressively with their own central bank digital currency, they're actively and they aren't even pretending they are actively purposely monitoring what their people are doing, but it was the lincoln pipeline disaster that shot up gasoline

prices on the east coast overnight that revealed that the federal reserve and the u.s. treasury cannot be ostriches with their heads in the sand when it comes to cryptocurrency and i think that that is what the driving factor is here. david: well i hope you're right that that's the driving factor but steve, i see several driving factors here, cryptocurrency is a concern because it allows people, particularly people with evil intentions to hide their money, and there is an attempt to look into that. i think that's okay, but it's the other motive, where something that could give rise to alterior motive by politicians to look for political preferences and target people if they don't like >> this is the whole history of the irs. i mean its happened for decades. i have donors to some of my conservative organizations that i've started that have basically been harassed by the irs, as you were talking about in the obama years, for their political positions, and a lot of them said look, i don't want to get

involved, because i'm worried if i stick my head out, the irs is going to come after me and go through my records. by the way this is not something that is a figment of our imaginations or somehow this is some kind of a, you know, we're making hay out of nothing. the biden administration wants to expand the irs budget by billions and billions of dollars , and have tens of thousands of additional agents out there, you know, kind of harassing us, and so this is, i think, a very seminole moment for us to say look, we want, of course we have to collect our tax dollars, but financial privacy is very important, and one other quick thing. just because you want cryptocurrency and you want financial privacy doesn't mean you're a criminal. david: absolutely, absolutely, but it does mean, as far as the irs is concerned, that because cryptocurrencies change in value that you maybe hit for capital gains tax. adam, i want to just mention again that it is a proposal by

the irs. isn't it something that republicans should be negotiat ing with the administration about saying look, because it's a proposal, we will go along with you on some things maybe on cryptocurrency, but not on having unlimited access to people's bank accounts. >> sure, david. you know these bills can go to the hundreds of pages, so put in limits right in the limits, write them what they are and by the way, steve wants a flat tax. i have another idea. stop letting histone ores take any tax deductions for their donations and then there will be nothing for the irs to scruitinize. david: he's okay with that i think we have an agreement on that. danielle i want to talk briefly about something that janet yellen said this week, announcing that government was going to have a lot more influence and economic activity than it has in the past. let me play a sound bite from her, the treasury secretary. >> to recommit our government to play a more active and smarter role in the economy.

david: a more more active role, now let me play ronald regan and his view of government playing a smarter and more active role. roll tape. >> the nine most terrifying words in the english language are i'm from government and i'm here to help. david: [laughter] i've got to be honest with you, i'd go with reagan on that, not yellen, how about you? i'm absolutely right there with you. we have to bear in mind whenever any word comes out of janet yellen's mouth she's a uc berkeley educated labor economist. she's convinced that government can inter seed and help build the private sector, help create jobs. these are the capitalism and this is not how our economy is meant to work and we don't need to reunionize the country and add red tape to the process of private capital creation. we don't, so, whenever she talks , i just, you know, makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up because we don't need more government and i'm right

there with reagan. david: we have to run but i want to remind everybody there was bill clinton, a democrat president, who said the era of big government is over. i think he spoke a little too soon on that one. gang we're going to hear more from you later in the show meanwhile the biden administration clearing the way for a russian pipeline. that has workers here asking hey , what about our pipeline? the keystone, that was canceled by president biden, karl rove on pipeline hypocrisy. also, mask mandates lifted

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>> draws the sanctions on the company and the ceo building the pipeline and it's amazing, the head, the ceo of this german company is a former east german security official, and a running buddy of his former fellow security official, vladimir putin. and we moved sanctions from them and --

david: just remind me, it was, it's trump that supposedly colluded with the russians, not putin, right? >> oh, yeah, boy, this is really amazing. i mean a sign of weakness, what did we get out of this? nothing and maybe you could make an argument that if they did x and y and withdrew troops from the border of ukraine and blah blah blah and we did this but we gave this -- david: no negotiation, we didn't take advantage of it in anyway. i'm just wondering, this week, president biden was out with a bunch of folks at a ford plant, suggesting that he is still a union guy. what are the unions in america think of these moves? >> well you take a look at the blue collar unions like the pipefitters and the carpenters and so forth and, you know, this is not an administration that's hep on them. this administration likes the government unions, like the teacher unions and the service employees international, but if you're a guy or gal whose working with their hands and working machinery, let me say one thing about keystone.

first of all, there is a keystone pipeline, starts in canada, this green line goes to steel city, nebraska which is a major distribution point to other pipelines, goes over to wood river, illinois, comes down to cushing, oklahoma where we have big tanks that store oil, and then comes down to the port arthur and the industrial complex of the texas gulf coast. keystone xl starts in canada, goes through baker, montana and hooks up in steel city and the purpose of this pipeline was secondarily to get oil out of canada, but primarily to get it out of the bakken basin in western north dakota. this was u.s. oil that would help us lower cost of gasoline, and keep us energy-independent and allow us to sell abroad and reduce -- david: karl, energy independence is over we're now importing particularly after the pipeline hack that we had, the colonial pipeline hack. we're importing oil again, so, energy independence is over. i want to switch, if i can, to

another foreign story, which is what's happening with the democrats in israel, of course we had the squad saying that israel is an apartide nation, a terrorist nation, not using the same word when talking about hamas. the president has made it clear that he doesn't side with that element in the democrat party. let me just play a sound bite from him yesterday, speaking on this , roll tape. >> my party still supports israel, but let's get something straight here. until the region says they acknowledge the right of israel to exist as an independent jewish state, there will be no peace. david: so that was essentially biden reading the riot act to the squad, to aoc, and the others, right? >> yeah, that's after he had to endure eight minutes of tallib on an airplane tarmac. think about what she said the

other day. she said, now, i'm sorry about the missiles, but let's realize whose responsible for that. in other words, israel is responsible for provoking the hamas to drop 4,000-plus missiles on israel. thank god for the iron dome, think about how many hundreds if not thousands of casualties there be in israel, if they didn't have iron dome and yet, there she is, the congresswoman from michigan, blaming israel for hamas launching 4,000 missiles it is unbelievable. david: and it's not just tallib , aoc saying that israel targeted a media facility , not mentioning that that media facility had been used by hamas as a staging ground for terrorism for years, going back to at least 2016 when the atlantic did a piece on that by the way it's too much even for some progressives. congresswoman richie torres -- >> courageous. david: let me just play the sound of that and get your

reaction, go ahead, roll tape. >> the rapid fire rhetoric that we have seen directed at israel is so hyperbolic, that it in flames rather than informs. it delegitimizes israel rather than deescalates the israeli palestinian conflict. david: that was a profile incur age no? >> that was and he's been taking heat from others on the left of the democratic party and he's raised questions about why the democratic socialist wing, his words on the democratic party, is so anti -israel and you know, you're right. let me go back to that bidding for just a minute. there are two things that the squad didn't say. one is that that building was the headquarters of the hamas intelligence services and second of all, yeah, the israelis took down the building but only after sending word to everybody, evacuate the building because we're going to destroy the building. now there's always possible for the intelligence service, hamas' secret service to go get

another building, but they didn't lose any people in that, because israelis have a policy of saying we're going to take down a civilian building like that, we're going to announce we're going to take it down and you better get out of there. david: very quickly we've only got 15 seconds, trump is going back to doing rallies how is that going to work out with the republican party over the next couple years? >> well we'll see. you know, the question is going to be what's it going to be about? is it about the future or the past? if it's about the things that the country ought to be doing that's one thing. if it is about what we saw in georgia on the 4th of january, where it was all about resentment and anger in the past , that's not going to be helpful to either the party, the country or ultimately donald trump. david: karl rove great to see you, thank you very much. you bet. david: so much for following the science by the way if the cdc says it's okay to ditch the mask why are some gop lawmakers facing fines for doing exactly that? that's next.

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david: follow the science, well not on the house floor, apparently. at least six house gop members fined this week for not wearing a mask as speaker nancy pelosi continues to defend her mask mandate. now, my next guest is one of those members, whose been fined. congresswoman marionette miller meeks of iowa by the way we did reach out to speaker pelosi she was not available to join us so congresswoman, by the way i don't know whether to call you congresswoman, doctor, because you're a medical doctor or colonel because you were a colonel in the u.s. army. i guess i'll call you representative. we'll leave it at that for now, but you are not an anti- vaccer by any mean, in fact as a doctor and a former nurse, you actually have been giving out vaccines, right? >> not only have i been giving out vaccines, i did it in the 24

counties in my congressional district and i'm fully vaccinated. i've been an avid supporter of the vaccine talking about vaccine hesitancy and that's how this all started. i gave a speech on the house floor about vaccine hesitancy that was april 22, and that we could get more people vaccinated if we would show what a return to normal would look like, and since over 75% of our members were vaccinated, i emplored the speaker and the house attending physician to lift the mask mandate and to not fine members if they went without their mask so i continued to do that, wore a mask on the house floor that said vaccinated, continue to encourage people, and, you know, i think nancy pelosi isn't following the science, she wants to fine the science. david: well that's the key, and by the way, i didn't mention, you also have a master's degree in science and education, in short, you know a lot more about disease and science than nancy pelosi ever will, so whom should we believe? >> well, i think it's

interesting that as soon as the cdc guidelines came out, that you could go without a mask if you were fully vaccinated, the white house and president biden said you could go without a mask, and said get vaccinated, don't wear a mask, chuck schumer and the senate they don't have a mask mandate in the senate. they don't go with the mask. it's only on the house floor and a committee in the house, and even when we had dr. fauci testify to us before the coronavirus task force subcommittee, we were all wearing masks, even though we were separately advised and we had social distancing and we were vaccinated, so, it's not following the science. it's fining the science. it's a power play, and, you know , it's unscientific. i'm not anti-vaccination. i think people should get vaccinated. i continue to encourage that but i think we're not setting an example for anyone and it continues to create confusion to people, why should they get vaccinated if nothing is going to change. david: there's so much

confusion and of course the cdc is not helping at all. three weeks ago, they say that kids going to summer camp have to wear masks outside at summer camp, and then two weeks later they say no, forget about it, nobody needs a mask if you've been vaccinated, so i mean, this mixed messaging is a terrible problem, right? >> absolutely, and i'm glad you mentioned summer camps because i also asked that question at our most recent coronavirus task force meeting and i did a speech on the house floor about the cdc giving guidance to summer camps so they can reopen and reopen without children wearing masks. children are very low rates of transmission, also very low rates of illness, and they are outdoors and we know that there's almost small transmission outdoors, it's one of the few things that the chinese communist party was honest about at the beginning of the pandemic. summer camps should be able to open, and children should be able to go without masks. david: let's talk about the chinese communist party, because there is more evidence now, and the gop came out with a report suggesting that we really

need to investigate it, because the world health organization, to put it bluntly, seems to be in bed with the chinese communist party, and agreeing to their dictation about what can be investigated and what cannot. more evidence that the wuhan lab was the origin of this virus and of this pandemic, that it was worked up, made even more infectious and more dangerous in the lab, and then released from the lab. what are your impressions of all of that? >> well, you know, physicians have long been concerned about this. i know physician colleagues and i have talked about this issue, even last year. there was an article done by chinese verologists that worked at the wuhan institute of veolog y, and it was a chinese ophthalmologist who was pushing the chinese communist party to

let them know about the pandemic and he eventually died of covid-19 and was a real hero but it was really dismissed at first that the virus could have come from this lab, but there is research which we had stopped in the united states but was funded out of, there was a grant funding around $650,000. david: yes. >> through dr. fauci's division in nih that went to this wuhan institute of verology, and we know they were studying this bat virus and the particular bat was extremely far way from wuhan it was about i think 650 miles so it's a long way from the institute, and dr. wake has published on this and now i think it's gaining some traction david: we've got to get to the bottom of it certainly, very quickly, i may disagree with you on this next point but you voted with democrats on this commission to investigate what happened january 6. do you really think it's going to be a fair and balanced investigation, very quickly. >> i voted with the capital

police who were traumatized and who have been blamed for a security breach and i think with a commission that has equal representation, not being run by democrats, not having a democrat majority, which we hear now in committee hearings, when we talk about this , we have not -- david: congresswoman, we've got to go but i hope you do get to the bottom of the shooting of ashley babbot, because we still don't know what happened there. congresswoman thank you very much for being here. well from mass confusion, we're going to be right back, stay with us.

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chairman, tore haggen, he's joinings us from aboard his company's brand new vessel called the viking venus and first i want to ask whether you're happy with the new cdc guidelines. >> yeah, i think we will also be happy for every step forward we make. the situation for viking is a little bit different, because we mainly operate in europe, either on the rivers or on the oceans, so we haven't been so dependent on the cdc guidelines, but we have many american passengers about 85% of our people are, so and a positive sign from the cdc is welcome. david: now, the cdc as you know has gone through a sea change, forgive the pun, but about masks , whether you wear them, where you wear them, et cetera. are you requiring masks, because everyone on board will be vaccinated, so is there a need for masks? >> that's a complicated

question, and as you may know, viking was the first cruise line to stop operations in march last year, so we were very careful, we saw it coming, and in the meantime, we have been spending a lot of time research ing how the virus spreads and we have had experts in virology, and from the u.s. navy, who has been leading this effort, and we have now started up again operations, named the ship on may 17, and we have a bit cautious as we start up, so our policy in the future is that our guests will have to be vaccinated, and we will initially, at least, require wearing of masks when you move around, not when you sit down and eat and so forth. david: okay you know because there was a crazy rule at one point, we spoke to an american cruise ship operator whose talking about the cdc saying even when you sat down for

dinner, you had to wear a mask according to the cdc and just lift it up in order to eat. you aren't going to that extreme , are you? >> no, we're not. we're not, and but i think when you start up an operation like this , it's very important that you do it right and don't have any issues at the beginning, and of course, we are very proud of ourselves. we have installed pcr laboratories on board our ships, i don't know if you're aware of that or not but we have full scale pcr labs on board, so, everybody is tested everyday, whether it's guests or crew. david: interesting. >> this is the way we can make absolutely sure we can keep the virus off the ship, or at least from spreading. david: very interesting. by the way, forgive me, but workers, i'm just wondering if you're having any difficulty getting u.s. workers on board, because as you know, we're paying enormous sums to essentially keep people at home here, the government is. are you focusing just on non-

u.s. workers because of that >> well our operation is out of europe, and so we have european staff. david: yes. >> and we have many staff from philippines and indonesia, and i must say when i came aboard here , the first time, five, six weeks ago, before we started operation, everybody is so delighted that they can now be back to work again. and also, we've been able to procure vaccination for our staff and by july better part of our staff should be vaccinated. david: tell us a little bit about the ship. we're running out of time but i want to give you a chance to plug the ship. the viking venus has to be spectacular, no? >> well, we have a policy, all our ships are the same, so we have six spectacular ships, you are right. david: [laughter] >> and we have state-of-the-art

on the rivers, and now, of course [inaudible] welcoming americans back again, and we still have some space, but we're selling out very quickly so we're very thankful for that too david: there's a lot of de demand and it's popping out now, with your popping out. best of luck to you, tore. thank you so much for being here >> thank you very much. david: good luck with your whole fleet not just the new viking venus. good to see you. well violence spreading from the mid east to u.s. streets live reports on the latest clashes here and if the cease-fire is holding up over there. that's next. our retirement plan with voya, keeps us moving forward. hey, kevin! hey, guys! they have customized solutions to help our family's special needs... hey, graduation selfie! well done! and voya stays by our side, keeping us on track for retirement... ...giving us confidence in our future... ...and in kevin's. you ready for your first day on the job?

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york city and many cities inbetween. lucas tomlinson has more on that from washington d.c. lucas? reporter: david following the violence between israel and hamas, increasing attacks here against jews in the united states, as ambassador to the u.s. spoke earlier on fox & friends. >> i think it's a appalling, it's appalling, but it's noticer 's problem or the jewish problem. it's a world wild moan, it's an american phenomenon, it's the oldest form of racism and this is something i expect all public figures here to condemn. >> the operative word is peace. i'm really glad there's a cease-fire in the middle east, and i have every confidence that the biden administration will make all efforts to maintain it. >> here in new york, peaceful protesters are hallmark but it must stay peaceful and in washington, we just passed, and

the president just signed, the anti-asian hate crime bill just yesterday, and hate against any group, asians, jews, palestinians, is wrong. >> some blame the rise in anti-semetic attacks in la and new york on facebook, instagram twitter and tiktok for instigating the violence. >> the common denominator here in what's the platform is social media, and it feeds on itself, and there's no question that whether it's caused by left, the silence of a lot of the media, of many political personalities, of social media influencers, when it comes to the histories oldest virus, anti-semitism, is definitely a contributing factor. reporter: thursday night, a jewish man was beaten by a mob in midtown manhattan, a few blocks from where you're sitting right now, david. the victim said attacks against minorities are increasing and never in a million years would

you have to second guess what you wear in public. david? david: i just walked out of the building the other night and it was happening right in front of me. it's every where. for senator schumer to say these protests must stay peaceful is not correct. they have not been peaceful. a lot of them are violent all over the country. lucas, thank you very much. now to the cease-fire that's still holding up between israel and hamas. we wish them the very best. our greg palkot is in tel aviv israel with the very latest. so far so good, right, greg? reporter: so far so good, david, yeah, we're wrapping up pretty much day two of the cease-fire, between israel and hamas. we haven't seen anynor rockets. we haven't seen anymore air strikes and that's a good thing. not so good about 40 miles from where we are, deep in the heart of the gaza strip. we have a team there, and they tell us that local residents are continuing to pick through the rubble left from israeli bombings as more bodies are being found, the death toll there is heading up to around

250. there are reports of the arrival of some truckloads of aid, that is absolutely crucial. the people there need food and water, they need medicine, they need fuel, and frankly, they need shelter. now, our team over in jerusalem is also saying that they're not seeingmore signs of clashes between palestinians and the police. yesterday we saw several around the holy sites there. it's really a sign of a simmer ing tensions here, that's not going away. secretary of state blinken set to arrive in the region on wednesday, meeting with official s. egyptian diplomats who played a big role in brokering the cease-fire, they're here now and talking to officials. meanwhile, as we have been watching, david, in the past several days, first-hand, the israeli military in action, there have been efforts in d.c., by progressive democrats who try to limit u.s. military support, senator bernie sanders, representative ocasio-cortez speaking out against the $735 million sale of jdam

guided to israel they have been put to very active use in the past weeks in light of what they say are human rights issues involving israel and the palestinians. we heard, david, from president biden last night, in a press conference, and there doesn't seem to be any movement on that issue. he seemed to come out very strongly in his support for israel as well as the palestinians in the region. david: absolutely, greg good to see you thank you very much appreciate it. so did you hear about this , president biden signing a new green energy executive order to investigate the financial risk of climate change. now, will that mean a bigger financial risk to taxpayers? we'll tell you, coming next.

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president biden signing a new executive order this week for federal agencies to review the financial impact of climate change, he says it's to help cut costs long term, but my next guest says his plan will be far more expensive than the cost of climate change, steve coonan is the author of "unsettled" and a former energy department official under president obama. steve, good to see you i'm going to quote from your book if you don't mind. you say the net economic impact of human-induced climate change will be minimal through at least the end of the century. now, that doesn't seem to require spending trillions of dollars and coming out with projects to kill fossil fuel within 10-15 years in the united states, does it? >> no, it doesn't, and david, let me just correct you, on one small point, what you quoted is not what i say, it's what the official reports say, and it's astounding to me that

that's in the reports but nobody pays attention to it, as they continue to talk about an existential crisis of climate david: here is what the executive order what an official says about the executive order issued thursday from the national economic council director, he says the touchstone of this executive order is that climate risk is financial risk and again, the notion being the financial risk of not spending trillions of dollars be catastrophic because of the fact that's how much it's going to cost the american economy, to which you say what? >> well, i would say one of the biggest long term threats to the u.s. economy is climate, but not in the way that you think. i think many of the plans that are being proposed have a pace and a scale that be severely disruptive domestically to the country and also, weaken the country's place in the geo political order.

david: now we should emphasize here, because you've got a lot of critics, particularly people who you probably used to work within the obama administration, who claim that you're a climate denier, you're not denying the effect of human activity on the change in climate but it's a matter of degree and i'm just wondering if you can quantify how much climate change will cost this economy over say the course of the rest of the century. >> yeah, again, everything i'm telling you is not my science, but it's what's in the reports, and what the reports say is that a warming is of up six degrees centigrade which is four times by the end of the century, would have only a few percent net hit on the u.s. or global economy. david: how about weather changes? we hear a lot of talk about how all of the catastrophic weather that we report on here on fox is caused by climate change, to

what you say what? >> well weather is not climate. climate is the long term average of weather, and if you tell me that you've got one or even a few years or it's unusually dry or you've seen a few more hurricanes, i would say patience , wait out several decades and then let's have a discussion of change in climate. david: then of course and we only have about 15 seconds there's a question, if we did everything perfect, which we're cleaning our air, because of the switch to gas from coal, et cetera, you still have china, you still have india, and they're not going to change, if they don't change, nothing will, right? >> no, we're only 15% of global emissions in the u.s. , and even if we went to 0 today, that reduction be wiped out by a few years of growth in the rest ofdl science here, steve koonin, thank you very much the book is called "unsettled" and i recommend it without any qualifications. congrats on the book thank you for being here, steve appreciate it. >> thank you much. david: we will go live to our

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i booked our hotel on kayak. ... ... he >> as the border crisis intensifies. theys' a texas democrat who says the biden administration border cash is not always getting to the right place. first to the border itself, we're getting new numbers now on how many migrants have been released into the u.s. since president biden took office. bill is in a hot spot for the crossings, the rio grande valley in texas. bill, what's the latest?

david, good morning to you, the rio grande sector remains pretty much the busiest across the u.s.-mexico border. yesterday, border patrol saying they recently apprehended a mexican national who is a convicted murderer as well as a gang member with an assault on a child in the houston area. one in the brownsville area, and hidalgo. highlighting some of the security concerns and if we can pull up video from lahoya, texas. this happens like clock work every morning. migrant families come out of the brush. they come out and present themselves to the border patrol. many from triangle countries, honduras, el salvador and this is from alex hogan and her crew out here a couple of days ago. take a look at video from the

rio grande. at night come across in the dead of night and migrant families coming across on rafts in the middle of night sometimes led by coyotes, and presenting themselves to border patrol as well. many of them coming with children. we'll talk about this year. this is texas democrat gonzalez, he's got a little criticism from the biden administration, at least questions for them. he says some of the border money that the biden administration is supposed to be sending to the local municipalities to get this problem under control, it needs to be kept track of better and some of that money might not be going where it needs to. in particular, he says hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent to ngo's, nongovernment organizations, to help relocate the migrant children and he says that has to be kept track of better. you can't just keep throwing money at the problem. and then the bombshell axios report that's coming out. you're looking at video, fort

bliss or local hhs facilities. what axios is reporting that xavier becerra recently told that they might have to increase migrant child capacity at fort bliss from 5,000 to 10,000 children. now, activists say there's a problem with that because the bigger the facility gets with the children, it's harder to keep track and harder to care for the children in a bigger facility. there was some pushback from local politicians and that xavier becerra said we have no other options, we have 20,000 kids in our custody, if you have better options please give me ideas here. back out live. this coming as we're hearing new reporting that the biden administration and hhs have been flying migrant children upwards of 500 of them to the state of tennessee and then releasing them there to local organizations, without the knowledge of those local officials.

and as you can imagine, those local officials in tennessee not too happy about it. they say they need more transparency from the biden administration. >> that's extraordinary. have you been seeing any of these shipments? because clearly, there was a little bit of a shell game going on for lack of a better phrase, in terms of trying to move kids from overcrowded facilities to ones right next door, that ended up being just as overcrowded. have you seen shipments of kids going out of these facilities and eventually ending up in places like tennessee? >> well, i personally haven't, but what i'll tell you is we just switched out with our crew last night and one of our photographers told me he flew out of mcallen early this morning and said on his flight there were at least 70 migrant children on his flight flying all over the place and he talked to one of them, a young honduran child headed to the state of california. the government is paying for the flights going all over the country and trying to find sponsors and family members for

them. >> of course, the government is us, that's the bottom line. bill, great reporting as always. thank you very much from the border. and now to the democrats saying the biden's administration allocation of border cash is not always getting to the right place. texas congressman gonzalez who met with vice-president kamala harris to met and first i have to ask you about the vice-president. she was appointed more than a month ago, very publicly in front of the whole nation by president biden to be in charge of the border crisis. we haven't heard from her once. you had a talk with her. shouldn't she be speaking to the american public? there are a lot of people on the border who want to hear from her if she's in charge. >> yes, but let me first be perfectly clear when i made a comment about border funding. it wasn't about border funding, it was about funding that's going to central american countries that we need to assure that it gets to the right places, to the right

ngo's, and that will create employment and it will create conditions for the folks who want to stay in their native country and my concern is that a lot of the foreign aid that we give not only to central american, but around the world often times gets squandered and doesn't get invested in places that create meaningful results and my concern is whatever amount we're spending down there to assure that we create conditions that create employment, security and agriculture and manufacturing and tourism to assure people have better jobs and more security to want to stay in their native country. another issue i've been advocating on and i continue to do on both sides and i had this conversation with president trump and his administration, is that we should be having facilities many like the ones on our southern border on the border of kwaut guatemala and have asylum in their country. >> congressman, forgive me for

interrupting, i covered latin america 12 years for the wall street journal and i know what you're saying, a lot of the governments are what the immigrants are fleeing from, why would we want to spend hundreds of millions, if not billions on governments that the immigrants are fleeing from. it doesn't make any sense, they're going to pocket the money and put it in swiss bank accounts. the fact of kamala harris not speaking out what's going on, does that bug you? >> she had a conversation, a very intense conversation with members of congress, and plans of strategically, surgically making investments in the country to create conditions to slow this migration down and from our conversation it was a very good conversation, she plans on keeping a close grip on the investments that we make and ensure that they're results-based. >> no offense to you as a representative. i know you represent the people in your district, but americans want to hear from the person in charge.

they're getting mixed messages from various people in the administration, whether it's dhs, hhs, et cetera, but they want to hear from the person that president biden said was in charge of the immigration problem if not crisis and they're not hearing from her. she's been silent since he said she was in charge. >> yeah, i think she is just starting to get going, and-- >> it's about time, congressman, wouldn't you say. >> there are elections down there and she doesn't want to disrupt the election and she is needs to go there at the right strategic time they've been in close contact with the ambassadors and moving the ship in the right direction to slow this-- >> and you suggested that the mexican-- that the asylum policy that we had under the trump administration was working better than what we have now. they've reversed that policy where, which did force

immigrants to apply for asylum in the countries of origin and they reversed this when they came into office. should they reverse that. >> no, they were coming in 19 to the border during the trump administration. >> then you had the stay in mexico policy and deal with the northern triangle and kept the people in those countries to apply for asylum. >> in mexico, let's be clear, central americans were travelling through mexico asking for asylum at our border and back to mexico when this virus attacked our hemisphere, i'm talking long-term facilities, investments made on mexico's southern border, guatemala's northern border similar to our border. and process claims there.

and if we had done it then we wouldn't be doing this. and this is going on through many decades. >> the stay in mexico policy stopped the flows. you watched when it stopped, january of 2019. quickly, last point. >> yeah, that was a very short period after the pandemic started, but during 2019-- >> no, no, no, january, 2019. that was a year before the pandemic. that's when the stay in mexico policy began. go ahead. >> well, it started a little before, but i'm just saying for a long time-- >> a year. >> the administration coming through my border and it happened, it's been happening for 20 years and it's different countries at different times, we need to have a strategic idea, plan, to invest in those countries, create asylum facilities there, and take the pressure off our southern border. this should not be a partisan. >> i agree with you,

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said, i just covered -- i covered for a while, whether you're talking ortega nicaragua, chavez, the first thing they do to a one-party state is pack the supreme court. could that happen here? >> i don't think so, but we've got to be vigilant. we're like the minutemen of old. we need to march out onto the village green and be prepared. not with our muskets, but with our ideas. and it's a very bad idea and the president of the united states knows better. he knows that what he said as united states senator was dead on correct, it's a boneheaded idea. it was a terrible idea when fdr floated it in 1937. he had an overwhelming democratic congress, but they said, mr. president, we're going to give you almost anything you want, but not this. don't fiddle with our infrastructure of separated powers. exactly what you were saying. david: he did call it a bonehead idea, but we've seen how he's changed dramatically

moved to the left just since the campaign to become president let alone 20 years ago in the united states senate. i'm wondering if this commission has been packed, probably not by him, but by the people around him, packed with people who would be in favor of packing the supreme court. >> i'm fearful that that may be so, may cooler heads prevail. if you're going to have two co-chairs, a republican and a democrat. but the two co-chairs served under obama and i don't think it's real bipartisan. we have to keep a close eye on this group. they're trying to change the subject, and broaden the subject. i'm deeply concerned and americans should be concerned. once they focus the founding generation said separation of powers including an independent judiciary is the recipe for liberty. and you saw in latin america where the lack of that is

exactly the opposite. david: it's not just lot latin america, it's any region in the world where dangerous things happen. could they make such a monumental shift with such a simple minority with a 50-50 split in the senate? >> no, i think if the filibuster holds in the senate we're safe and i think that the house of representatives will come to its senses even though they're doing some very, very boneheaded things. but this is the structure of government. it's not a particular policy. policies wax and wane. the structure of the government is something that should be viewed as sacrosanct. the structure is found. i would say to the commission, you should first start with reading alexander hamilton federalist 78. don't recommend anything that's going to compromise the independence of the article three branch. david: ken, i want to switch

gears here and talk about a matter concerning racial equity, so-called. a federal judge just decided in favor of a restaurant owner who was being denied funding from this restaurant revitalization fund of 28.6 billion. he was being refused or at least not considered for that fund because he is a white man and the fund specifically says it favors, it prioritizes restaurants owned and controlled by women, veterans and by those who have been subjected to racial or ethic prejudice or cultural bias. i'm reading from the order from the small business administration. >> the judge agreed with plaintiff that this was illegal what has been written into this law. what do you think? >> it's unconstitutional. the judge, in my view, is absolutely right. i've read judge o'connor's order. it is spot on correct. in this country, there is equal

justice under law. this by its very terms is unequal justice. telling the restaurant owner, in beautiful steven, texas, home of charleston state. you don't get to be considered for the periods. we're going to funnel money to the favored groups. veterans are a different affair. but when governor draws on the basis of race, they have stepped across the red line. this is the law not one person's view. david: which law? are we talking about the civil rights act or which law are you talking about that would defend the judge's decision. >> i'm talking about the sba determination, that there's going to be favoring people on the basis of race. david: right. >> that has to run the gauntlet of the most compelling justification, they haven't come close. they being the sba. it's unconstitutional. the program is unconstitutional. judge o'connor was right in

issuing this order. david: the sba, which government order would forbid the sba under any circumstance, any circumstance, of discriminating on the basis of color? >> the constitution of the united states is interpreted by the supreme court that says you can't draw these. i think of brown versus board of education. drawing lines in a way that discriminated, of course, against african-americans. but guess what? it is the principle of treating all principles equally under the law, that's what the constitution demands and they said it time and time again. >> and that started the importance of the supreme court, the current supreme court, which many, particularly on the left would now say favors conservatives. is there any way that they would judge against the verdict of this judge in the sba case? >> i don't see it. not based upon the record that i've seen. now, if you come forward with

overwhelming evidence of the need for this government, sba. then it's a debatable issue. the government i don't think came close after judge o'connor justifies presumptively. fancy word, it is unconstitutional until the government proofs otherwise. >> yeah. ken starr, thank you for being here. appreciate it. david: russian president vladimir putin denying knowledge of the russian group that attacked the colonial pipeline. president biden is buying that. should you? ♪♪ (vo) ideas exist inside you, electrify you. they grow from our imagination, but they can't be held back.

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>> the biden administration says vladimir putin was not involved in the colonial pipeline cyber attack launched by hackers in russia. is that hard to believe? my next guest is station chief and thanks for being here. >> good to see you. david: do you think that putin was involved in any way in this hack? >> let's put this way, vladimir putin was in kbg and he's used to denying with that cheshire grin and he wants us to know that he did do it and using media sites against us, the solar winds attack. russia's foreign intelligence service, sbr pointed that one

and not so plausible denials of using the soviet nerve agent to try to assassinate in the u.k. and their own citizen navalny. i think there's a spectrum here where russia certainly was aware of the criminal group on their territory, and gave them essentially safe haven, not unlike what the taliban gave to al-qaeda and we can talk about that more if you'd like. the implications for u.s. policy. all the way to the point of the kremlin actually ordering this attack against the united states. david: so, it sounds from what you're saying like biden came to too quick a decision. why would the biden administration give cover to vladimir putin on this? >> yeah, i think this is -- it's important for our intelligence community to collect on this -- this requirement, you know, to determine the extent to which the kremlin knew about this

particular attack and whether they may have ordered it. i'm a little surprised about the rush to judgment. i would have expected that the dni or perhaps even the director of cia might have opined on this publicly. and i think that there will be follow-up discussions, hearings potentially in the congress over this issue. you know, the timing of the dark side, he is that the name of the group of the hackers, dismantling their operations, seems again, suspiciously connected to vladimir putin. i mean, it's happening just before the administration announces that their green lighting this gas pipeline in europe, which has a lot of people shaking their heads. i mean, there's so many aspects to what's happened between the united states, the putin administration and the biden administration over the past couple of weeks, it's making a lot of people's heads turn. >> it's a dizzying array of issues where we're in confrontation with russia, just remember a couple of weeks back when russia amassed 100,000

troops on ukraine border and threatened to attack. there's no question that vladimir putin wants a summit, or the soviet-- the arms control negotiator used to say that the soviets used to like to put a boulder in the middle of the road and i think what vladimir putin believes is more aggressive across the united states without crossing a red line. if, you know, that he determines would cause major reaction from the united states, beyond what we've taken so far, which is fairly minimal, that that will induce the united states to come to the stable and give russia the student, putin in particular to be on a level playing field with the united states which is what he wants in anticipation of russia's parliamentary elections, as the defender of russia's besieged fortress. david: i don't think that vladimir putin knows how to use a level rather than acting

accordingly. we've given away stuff before we've gotten to the table, like, for example, the gas pipeline. ironically or hypocritically that just after we kill a pipeline in the u.s. and give vladimir putin one in europe. should we really, before we even get to the negotiating table be excusing him for any accomplishment or dealings with the hackers and giving him a green light for the pipeline? it seems like that's what you hold in order to bring to the negotiating table. >> right, exactly. and we also need to demonstrate the will and the capacity. those are two things that make up deterrents to counter russia. so recall that the trump administration launched attacks from cyber command against the research agency in advance of the 2018 mid terms. that kind of shut down some of russia's efforts to interfere in those elections and we need to have that capability and we need to call out russia not just for these attacks, but the human rights abuses and

violations of the chemical weapons convention and other things as well. >> dan, i know you're a cia guy not a politician, but doesn't it seem that putin has gotten more from the biden administration than it ever got from the trump administration? >> well, you know, putin is relentlessly aggressive and it's up to this administration to hold him accountable and he's testing us. he tested us in ukraine and we had plans to send our ships into through the sea, and the black sea and russia's protested that and we backed down. and that gives putin the leverage to emphasize to the world that, hey, this ukraine is in our sphere of influence and we'll determine how things play out here and i think that was also an error of policy judgment on the part of the biden administration. david: well, so far-- if all of this is a test, i would say we get a "f" and they

get a "a", wouldn't you agree? >> well, i think that the best way to manage russia is to be very aggressive in our defense of our national security interests. at the same time you can pursue diplomacy. president reagan did that by countering worldwide and holding them accountable for the human rights abusive and standing in front of the gate and telling gorbachev to tear down that wall. you don't get what you want without defending ourselves. david: was an amazing in world history, tear down this wall moment. dan, appreciate it. and a nonprofit with a new ad targeting what it calls woke corporations. why it could be a wake-up call to businesses playing politics. that's next. - modern life, different schedules, different meals, different times. how do you keep everyone happy? with five cooking options the cuisinart griddler is the ultimate in versatility. it has a full griddle, a full grill

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david: so that was one of three ads put out by the nonprofit consumers research, it claims some corporations are putting politicians above their own customers. is that right or wrong? here now to discuss it, former dallas fed advisor and quill intelligence ceo booth. and democrat strategist laura fink and former co-founder steve moore. good to see you all. danielle, first, aren't corporations playing a dangerous game mere in getting so deeply in bed with folks who, quite frankly, can't stand capitalism and want to get rid of it? >> you know, i think there have been a lot of corporations over their skis here. we've seen numerous surveys, you know, apolitical surveys that show that 50% or more of consumers don't want their companies to tread into water where they don't belong. and you know, if you look at one of the other companies that

this organization is targeting american airlines here in dallas where im, they did 12.4 billion dollars of buybacks in five years through 2019. their ceo got a huge pay day last year, and even as they were taking billions from the government. even as they were laying off people. even as-- i was on a plane last night. shrinking leg room. and at some point you have to say, you know, who are you benefitting here? and why are you taking so much from the government? and you really do need to think harder about your place in the corporate landscape. you have an obligation to your stakeshoulders, your shareholders. >> there are not just customers, there are other stake holders as well and people who own the stock are supposed to own the company. that's how capitalism works, but steve, that's not how it's been working recently and we did, by the way, reach out to coca-cola. they gave us the following statement. can we put that up on the screen there.

we respect-- this is from coca-cola, we respect everyone's right to raise their concern and express their views, but we also believe the best way to make progress now for all of us to listen respectfully and collaborate on a path forward we remain open to productive conversations with groups who have different views. steve, you contrast that with the sort of one-sidedness with any a lot of these corporations dealt with the new voting law in georgia. or in texas. i mean, they weren't listening to both sides, were they? >> well, hardly not. look, three cheers to consumer research. i think this is fantastic. i only wonder what took so long for conservatives to wake up, that we are on a one-sided battle, that it's unilateral disarmament all the pressure on corporations comes from the left and the corporate high hierarchy basically caved in to

the pressure on them. it's important for the conservatives to get in the game and start boycotting companies who don't agree with the political decision. i believe in right to free speech and position on things, they're so pressured by the leftist progressive groups, all the positions seem to be left ward leaning and it's time for conservatives to put equal pressure on these companies because if they don't, they will continue to side with left wing politics and by the way, these are the same groups that aren't too happy with the entire capitalist system that creates these companies in the first place. david: laura, there's a socialist named bernie sanders who came out with a huge statement on corporation how he wants to change the stake holder issue among corporations and gave government a far greater role than it has to decide which way corporations could move. i'm wondering if corporations are trying to put off that kind of an implanttation of the

bernie sanders's method into capitalism by making some of their political statements? >> well, you know, david, bernie sanders would agree with what danielle suggested, which is what the ads are attacking, the ceo pay, layoffs, the cob crisis, they're not talking about voter access and voter rights. these companies have intelligence market research that tells them that the american people and the consumers are in favor of expanded voter access and that's why that million dollars in dark money was spent attacking the companies on issues not the issues that they're standing up to, which is voter access, but other issues, they're trying to distract. now, they may have a million bucks in local media ads and may be winning the conservative news cycle with panels like this one, but they know that the american consumer is not going to be moved by this million dollars in dark money. and you know, each of these companies that's under attack has built a brand on looking ahead.

looking forward. and like coke, in the '60s was the first to integrate ads and that wasn't popular at the time. david: that's true. >> and. david: danielle, the point is that was on a social issue about which there was a lot of agreement and of course, there were small group of people that were pushing back against that, hold on a second, this is for danielle, they prevailed. the people who desegregated the united states prevailed. what is the ultimate goal of the people who are now pushing? i mean, desegregation was a wonderful goal, but what is the goal, danielle, of the current push to the left in corporations? >> i couldn't tell you because it's not the role of a corporation to alienate half of your constituency, half of your customer base and by the way, this is not only about voting rights and those laws, another thing that this group is

attacking. david: quickly. >> is forced labor in china and these are serious issues that absolutely have to be investigated. david: i wish they'd spend more time on china because there's a lot to be said about that, but there's a lot of money to be made in china and maybe that's why they're not talking about. got to leave it at that, gang. i mean, we have a lot more to talk about on this issue, maybe next time. the biden administration wants to give the irs more power to watch your bank account. is it time to stop the snooping and start cutting? ♪ yeah, i'm the tax man ♪ ♪♪

>> the biden administration pitching a new plan to give the irs power to snoop on americans' bank accounts this as the president looks to hike taxes on the rich and u.s. companies. my next guest says these progressive policies are the exact opposite of what our

economy needs right now. joining me is california republican gubernatorial candidate and former san diego mayor kevin falckner. and we have calls out to other candidates and they haven't gotten back to us. it's up to you. what is the latest on the move to unseat governor newsom? >> well, strong support out here in california, david. and it's a pleasure to be with you. as you know, over two million californians signed that recall petition and it qualified several weeks ago, democrats, independents and republicans who all understand that we need a change at the top of california and we need that change this year. david: but you have limits on the money that you can take in. the governor apparently has no limits. is that right? >> well, yeah, i mean with the recall election, it's different, but i will tell you i've been so encouraged by the strong support that we have been able to generate for our

campaign, that, you know, all about real solutions, on the issues that californians want and ending one party rule, which has not been working in california for a decade. >> now, the irs story is something that really is infuriating a lot of americans, that the irs proposal may allow them to look into not only our income, but the money we spend and they can do it willy nilly whenever they want. is that the issue that interests californians at all? >> i've been saying rather than empowering the irs, we should be empowering folks when it comes to affordability. two weeks ago i put out the largest middle class tax cut in california history. that's what we should be doing. it's not about raising taxes right now. it's about keeping more in folks' pocket books. we look at what's happening in california, david. folks are voting with their feet. they're leaving our state for

the first time. we lost a congressional seat because california is just too expensive. the solution is not, i repeat, not raising taxes. we actually need to lower at that tax burden to make it more competitive for us in california and more, you know, really for our families to actually stay here and raise a family in california. david: one of the ironies of california right now, they've got billions of dollars from the federal covid plans, but they're running the surplus, because silicon valley is doing spectacularly well during the pandemic. they made money hand over foot and added to the tax coffers. it's the small businesses that are being taxed out of business, isn't it? >> you hit the nail on the head. rather than say, you know, running a surplus and still asking for more money from californians, both families and our small businesses owners, which are the life blood of our economy, and that's, you know, our current governor came out and supported the largest

property tax increase, the commercial property tax increase in history last year. we worked against that and voters said no, but that he is what we're fighting against. we're fighting to make california more affordable, more livable, because as again, folks are voting with their feet. they're leaving our state, david, for you name the states folks are going to. so the middle class tax cuts that i've proposed, i think why it's gaining so much traction, it's real money, and enough for eight months of utilities, eight months of groceries, 90 tanks of gas, the type of help that we need to give californians, california families, particularly coming out of this pandemic. david: good luck to you, mayor. we have to leave it at that. kevin falkner, good luck to you, we appreciate you being on. thanks very much. well, another case of mass confusion, one state now requiring businesses to verify that customers are fully vaccinated before they take off their masks. we're going to ask a hotel chain ceo how that's going to

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>> well, the c.d.c. cleared the way for vaccinated americans to lose their mask in both places, but state of oregon is requiring businesses to verify their customers' vaccination status in order to drop the mask. join me now with more is best western ceo whose company has hotels located in oregon. david, good to see you. how-- what do you think of the oregon mandate? >> well, first of all, i'm grateful that the c.d.c. looked at the face mask requirement and giving us freedom and that freedom is liberating and our hotels have always been required to comply with the state, local and federal

requirements. so, of course, we're going to try to enforce the guidelines that's been stipulated by the authorities in oregon. but the way that we're going to do that is we are posting notices on the website as far as including messages on our confirmation and pre arrival messaging to make sure that people know what to expect. for the time being, we are going to have to require face masks for everyone unless they can prove otherwise. are all states different or do you categorize them, ones that follow the c.d.c. and those like oregon that do something different? >> i just learned about this oregon requirement just a day ago. i think it just came out two days ago. so, of course, we're going to have to comply with that. and we are a searching the requirements of the other states right now. i think there was another state that had such a requirement. >> david, what about liability?

there's a lot of questioning, if, for example, a customer gets covid after visiting one of your hotels, can they sue you or are you immune from liability? >> there are some states that liability protection laws, irrespective of the laws we're complying with c.d.c. guidelines and we have enhanced cleaning protocols and we document everything. and i think that's the best protection that we have. we're exercising due care, we put the health, safety and well-being of our guests as the utmost concern and my associates as well. >> as you open and i'm sure you're having the same trouble that restaurants are having, a lot of them are having trouble findings workers in some areas like new york city, for example, you have to pay workers more than $20 an hour to match what they're getting from the government for staying at home. can you do that? >> (laughter) >> i think if you ask restaurants folks and hotel

folks and many other industries facing the same labor crisis and i do regret that sometimes the best intentions have negative consequences, which doing our best to deal with the situation. and it is true that everybody's raising wages and we all have to be competitive. and what that results in though, there's going to have to be an offset to that cost and we're going to see prices go up ap people are seeing that hotel rates are going up, airline fares are going up and things are more expensive in general. david: so the shortage of workers is real and inflation is resulting from that, and that is real as well. something that we're all having to deal with. david, wish you the very best. good luck in this reopening. it's long overdue, but thank god it's finally happening. thanks for being here. >> thank you. david: well, brand new border drone video coming in

exclusively to fox, showing fresh crossings this morning just as the biden administration is reportedly flying some migrant kids fresh from across the border to tennessee. now tennessee senator bill hagerty is demanding answers from the white house. he joins your world 4 p.m. on monday on fox. the news continues after this. have a wonderful weekend, everybody. [ race light countdown ] ♪♪ ♪♪ when you save money with allstate you feel like you're winning. safe drivers save 40% saving is easy when you're in good hands. allstate. click or call for a quote today.

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