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from infected animals. as viruses so often do in your local wet market. the spies who believe that have never spoken to working virologist and don't have internet access. the other third joe biden told us lean-to the theory that covid-19 escaped from a government lab in wuhan that was conducting dangerous experiments on bat coronaviruses. at the same time. that is a minority of spies. that opens up the possibility. who knows really? either way, joe biden explained we will get some answers or more questions possibly several months from now. rest assured the white house is on. to be honest, we doubted that. just hours before joe biden's announcement we learned that the white house shut down a large on-going andnd legitimate federl investigation into the origins of this pandemic.

that investigation had been going on for months. it was conducted by the state department's bureau of arms control verification and compliance.de that is the bureau responsible for ensuring that china are not stockpiling bio-weapons like bat coronaviruses that are be experimented with in labs. but scientist to make them more transmissible and say, new york city. why did the white house shut down that on-going investigation? senior officials at the national institute of health including dr. fauci said they had no idea why it was shut down. that seemed odd. ygiven the nha has the most infectious diseases and closely linked to the story. it was through nih that funded some of that research at the wuhan laboratory. senator john kennedy asked all of these questions.

>> why did you guys and ladies, why did you spike the prior administration's investigation into the origins of the coronavirus and whether it could have come out of the wuhan lab? >> sir, we did not spike anything. in the prior administration. i am not sure what you mean by spike. >> the state department spiked the priorhe administration's study. >> that has nothing to do with the s national institute of health. >> they didn't consult with y'all? >> they did not. >> did they consult with you? >> i read about it if the press. >> doc, they spiked it without talking to experts? you don't want to answer that one, do you? >> tucker: no. we still don't know why the white house ended a month long investigation. we don't know what that investigation found before it

was closed. we have some ideas. a fact sheet released by the last administration written by some of the people doing the same investigation that the biden administration shut down told us researchers at the wuhan institute of virology became seriously ill in the fall of 2019. they had "symptoms with covid-19." three went to the hospital. that came out in january. the american media caught up this week and the intel confirmed it. the state department contractor who led that probe reiterated based on that investigation's findings so far: quote there is probably cause for deep suspicion that the virus escaped from wuhan.

and the chinese government lied about it. so why don't we know more? according to the same david asher, the state department did not want to know more. they didn't like the investigation. whose side are they on? and david asher is wondering the same thing. quote. somen't colleagues played down e possible links to china's biological weapons programs. and: that's a reference to the money that the u.s. went through nih to the wuhan lab to do research that may have been connected to this pandemic. david named chris ford. the former act the under-secretary in the state department as someone who didn't

want to dwelve into the potentials of a lab released and one related to a classified chinese military program. in violation of arms prevention. now, why would an official in the u.s. not want to know more about a foreign adversary violating international law and imperiling the lives of millions? that's a great question. he responded to fox news and, he said he had procedural concerns about the probe and including he was kept out of the loop until december. but he said the lab work theory is very possible and china must be held to account. there are all sorts of reasons to worry about lab origins, and it's critical to get to the bottom of this. that's his position now. it should be the position of everyone in the u.s. government. it's the position of the u.s. media.th every news organization has

updated its lies about the story. they told you it was a conspiracy theory. now they pretend they didn't say. that even dr. fauci revised his statement. called it outrageous. now dr. fauci admitted he has no idea what kind of research was going on in wuhan. >> how do you know they didn't lie to you and use the money for research anyway? >> well, we have seen the resultss of the experiments that were done and that the viruss they studied are on public databases now. so none of that was gain of function so... >> how do you know they didn't do the research and not put it on their website? >> there no way of guaranteeing that.

>> tucker: so dr. fauci with a straight face said we can be certain no u.s. tax dollars wenc to gain of function experiments because thein chinese didn't write about it on the internet, with a straight face. when pressed by one of the few senators who is not brain dead dr. fauci admitted he has no idea what the dollars went to. which experiment they funded in wuhan. institute of virology. either way, this is a total revision of dr. fauci's position. it was just a few days ago, he was incensed, outraged by the suggestion he funded gain of function experiments in china. now he is conceding it's possible. but, of course, he's always known it was possible. the grant dr. fauci approved for researchch supports these experiments.

in 2014, tony fauci and ia grant called understanding the risk of bat coronaviruses and that was overseen by peter who told the world in high volume there is no chance this virus escaped the lab and was appointed by the world health organization to investigate covid and declare the wuhan lab blameless. what a scam? the grant from dr. fauci said it will fund testing coronavirus using reverse genetics and: oh! receptor binding essays and virus infection experiments across different species and

humanized mice. actually that's quite a broad range. run that by any scientist and they will tell you a lot fits under that description. but specifically, what did those virus infections experiments with bat coronaviruses consist of? we don't know. precisely? we have some idea. it seems like may be the results are all around us. the white house wants you to calm down. theyo want the intelligence community to answer these questions in the next few months. if you can't trust them, who can you trust? f you don't need an investigation. you can take their word for it. josh did not take their word for it. he just introduced a bill requiring to declassify intelligence to tell us what they know about the wuhan lab and why wouldn't they? the senator joins us now. senator, thanks for coming on. there is not a forthcoming answer on why the administration would cancel an investigation into the central question of our

age. of the generation of this moment in history. where did this come from? why did they cancel it? >> i don't know why theync canceled it. maybe they didn't want the answer. i think it's time that we forcee the intelligence community to declassify what they know about the origins of covid-19. we know that all of our intelligence agencies have done research. and there is a bunch of them if you know. they have done some research. they have reached conclusions or have some ideas. i think the american people deserve to see that intelligence. why take joe biden's word for it. we ought to see for ourselves and that's what my legislationoe will do. >> tucker: you are a sitting member of congress, a senator. are you permitted to see this information? >> we are permitted to see some of the classified summaries about what the intelligence community concluded. my view is everybody ought to rysee that. we ought to make that available

to the american people to see wheree the different intelligene agencies have come down on this and what our intelligence agencies have been doing for the last year to draw our own conclusions.o i think it is vital to get more information out there. we ought to force transparency there. put itnd out there and let the american people see it. >> tucker: i hope in the middle of this political debate, we don't lose sight of the fact there is an incredibly dangerous of science going on, gain of function experiments that may produce some benefit. they exposed the world to a lot of real danger. why are we continuing to fund that? can we stop it? >> weth need to stop it. we have to think about the fact that the united states government was helping to fund the wuhan institute to do this research. that you are talking about, talker. talker. was it of a good idea? it doesn't seem like it. we need to hold people accountable who made those decisions.

is this something we should be doing? i don't think so. >> tucker: no, it's insanity. us playinges god. it didn't end well ever. senator hawley, appreciated. >> thank you. the start of the pandemic, a reporter in asia conducted a video interview with the top physician at the world health organization. she asked about taiwan. and its independence. now, first the doctor pretended he was experiencing technical difficulties and could not hear the question. in the end when pressed, he just turned off the call. he knew his masters in china didn't want him to talk about the possibility that taiwan could be andi independent natio. he had to obey them. he is not alone. you see this in the united states. in a recent interview an actor and wrestler john promoted a new film called f-9. during the promotion, he

announced taiwan is the first country that can watch f-9. that seems harmless but from the chinese perspective it is not allowed. so as punishment, john cena was to go on we vote and grovel in chinese for forgiveness. it's disgusting. we will only play part of it for you. >> [speaking foreign language]. >> tucker: to watch an american citizen apologize to our adversary for the crime of describing a nation as a nation -- taiwan is a country -- and he had to apologize. he never explained what he was apologizing for.

hehe was not even allowed to repeat the sin. he can never mention taiwan again. thousands of chinese residents watched this and left negative comments. one said this, you can't take benefits from china and do athings to harm china's interests." you say that as an american and you would be banned from twitter. that's xenophobia but it's real. and it is a prevailing view in china. if you want to make money in china you follow their rules, period. if you wonder why they shut down the investigation, that's why. they are getting rich doing it. how many people died in nursing homes from the coronavirus?

you would think we would know the answer.vi we don't. the last journalist remaining in michigan looked into that question. he found that the official numbers are a lie but tells theu truth now. ♪ ♪

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>> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: andrew cuomo who runs new york has gotten a lot of attention for covering up nurse's aid deaths in that state. the press spent almost no time looking into similar tragedies in the state of michigan. michigan only has one journalist left. he looked deeply into this. based on his analysis, he found that the covid death toll in michigan's nursing homes may be 100% than reported. that journalist is hear to tell us what he found. charlie, thanks for coming on. 100% higher. >> it could be. we don't know. i don't want to get into numbers, but the nursing home death count that michigan is offering you is what the nursing homes report. the rest of the deaths we don't know. you know how new york traced deaths in the nursing home. michigan doesn't know.

what they did last summer was theywh did a pilot program. a limited study. they found that 50% were nursing home residents. you know what they did? they stopped looking. just like the wuhan lab. they didn't want to know the answer. i asked them, why did you stop? it was too time consuming. you die, you get a death certificate. see it? yes. here place of death. this was clarence. a veteran 86 years old. threw him around like a laundry bag. he died in detroit receiving hospital. the health department said it was to time consuming where he lived. right under it is the address of

where he lived. 8 second google search, it takes you to a nursing home. bs. is we don't know how many, but it is a lot more. and the governor of michigan was supposed to accept a bravery award from the kennedy library. i am not sure she even showed up online to accept it because of this rotten scandal. >> tucker: i am shocked because the state of michigan told they had to wear masks when they kayaked but they could not find out how people died? but they couldn't be bothered to find out how people died? >> too time consuming! are you kidding me? the federal government sent the state of michigan $500 million to the health department for the covid response. you couldld not hire people from google addresses.

you know what, you were right. they shut down human activity in order to save people. i don't argue with that, but you didn't want to look at where they were dying and come up with a better response? w now we have a bunch of dead people. we have a bunch of dead businesses and children who are wounded in their hearts from what happened to them. this needs an answer to it, and i told you before, i will sue the state of michigan. i will win. i did. no media outlet anywhere in the world joined me. >> tucker: i am not surprised because you are the last reporter left in the state ofpr michigan. it's a big state. we are glad you were there. charlie, thank you. >> moore is coming. >> amen. lockheed martin is the world's largest defense contractor and has influence on american national security.

there is now evidence, disturbing evidence, that company is training employees to despise america. we will speak to someone who gathered that evidence next. ♪ ♪

>> tucker: joe biden nominated david chipman to lead the atf. the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. this is a concern for a number of reasons. first david is such a zealot he has shown himself to be willing to lie in the service of his idealogy. he claimed the branch davidians in waco shot down federall helicopters. during the siege that year, and that was not true and he knew that. he should have known that because he was involved in the siege. today he again failed to tell the truth.

he testified to keep this country safe, he said gun owners of ar-15's should be arrested. >> with respect to the ar-15, i support a ban as has been presented in a senate bill and supported by the president. the ar-15 is a lethal weapon and regulating it has other particularly lethal weapons i advocate for, i would enforce the laws on the book. >> tucker: that's false. you would not take it deer hunting because it's not legal enough. most of the time. but it is also evidence of cell

zealous. we want to speak to jesse kelly tonight. there are tens of millions of ar15s in circulation. what would is mean to ban them? >> we would get the world that david wants to hurt anybody who disagrees with him. this is the mistake we make on the right. we hear of this ban and we say pistols hurt more people every year. david is an idiot but he can read. he wants the freedom to hurt you. i don't know why we have to dance around that. >> tucker: why does nobody say that? such a smart point. >> well, because it means acknowledging your fellow americans want you dead or are okay if you are dead.

they called you a nazi for 4 years for a reason. do you think david chipman thinks nazis should own ar-15s. he wantsch the authority to ban them. putting him in charge of the atf is like throwing a party for friends and letting bill cosby tend the bar.n >> tucker: you target a fire arm owned by law abiding people who commit no crimes. to target them tells you it's not about reducing violence, is it? >> oh, no, it's not about reducing real violence. none of these people care about mass shootings or inner cityy violence. they have never been able to achieve their final socialist

dream in america because half of the country owns a lot of firearms. it's the only thing separating them from that. >> tucker: thanks for telling the truth. what is an ar-15. a lot of people don't seem to know including the guy biden nominated to run atf. here is a lip from tucker carlson origins. >> you hear people talk about gun control. pay are probably talking about the ar-15. >> we are going to take your ar-15. >> the most popular rifle in america. >> the number one target of antigun activists. >> [shouting] >> let's go. >> what is the ar-15. how does it work? why do people buy it?

we begin our investigation into this and we kick off 45, one of the most popular youtubers. >> what the heck. >> [gunfire]. >> [laughing]. >> tucker: that's part of our documentary series on fox nation. foxnation.com. if you are the in military you get free access for a year. many people have. a pretty good deal. speaking of the military, last year, the defense contract for lockheed martin ordered them to a seminar to unlearn their white male privilege. amazingly, a total of 13 lockheed employees obeyed and went to the training like the bad little girls they are. and the fighter jet program and three star that doesn't either. chris is a senior fellow and at the manhattan journal who broke this story. tell us what this training session was like.

thank you for coming on and reporting, what went on at this thing? >> well, this is a long training program. 8,000 lockheed martin employees have been through race reeducation programs. and this one was particularly appalling. they said being a white male was like being in the kkk and they said m white men can't jump. all of these slurs about their own origins. they take them through a series of exercises. they have to review 156 white male privilege statements. the question is this: if a 3 star general in the u.s. military can't stand up to crackpot diversity trainers, how do we stand up to china? >> tucker: that's right. this company would not exist

without federal contract. get billion dollars from congress.rs will anyone in congress put a stop to this? >> yes, i hope so. lockheed martin has tens of billion dollars come from taxpayers. i want to know, how many programs denigrate white males has lockheed martin done? i call on the u.s. senate and the u.s. house of representatives to launch an inquiry to answer these questions. because the truth is really simple, taxpayer should not subsidize woke racism at america's largest corporation. >> tucker: was there any response from lockheed martin? when you asked them, how can you justify this? >> yes, they responded today with a statement that could only be described as corporate gibberish. it was a serious of meaningless buzzwords. i think they have been caught and they are scrambling to

figure out how to respond. the documents on my twitter handle and my website are damning. no bonus about it, this is a neo-racist program forced employees. and subsidized by the taxpayers. >> tucker: why are you the only journalist doing this story? >> people are afraid to speak out on these issues. it will take more people to hav the courage to stand up and speak out and a racism is wrong no matter where it comes from and who it is directed towards. that should be simple but it's scary for too many people. i hope that changes. >> tucker: the adult men who put up with this deserve it. who would put up with that for a second? you have to have but i still think it should be no self-respect whatsoever. stopped. i appreciate you shining the light on it.

thank you. >> thank you.. u.>> tucker: across the country young female athletes are finding their achievement mocked because biological men get to compete against them. one athlete wants to prevent this from happening in sports. and she joins us with an update on that piece next. ♪ ♪ do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. we thought we had

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: this is a high school athlete in connecticut sueing to prevent biological males to compete against them in girls sports.

this is not a theoretical problem. they have dominated girls track meets in the state since 2017. it's unfair. a court dismissed the lawsuit. she is appealing and joins us with her attorney. from the lions defending freedom. thank you so much. first to you, tell us why you filed this suit. you are brave to say this in public. why are you doing this? >> for us the lawsuit was the last resort. we talkedre to school administrators and talked to legislators.oo we exhausted every possible lead we could. no one in position of authority wanted to hear us out. we had no choice but to file a complaint and later a lawsuit. >> tucker: did they say we understand it doesn't seem fair? you are a high school athlete. did anyone show any understanding at all?

>> nobody wanted to hear us out. >> tucker: how do you feel about that? >> a it's very frustrating and demoralizing. it's not fair being forced to compete against somebody who is biologically male. no matter you will never beat them. i raced against these athletes over a dozen times and every time i lost by a significant margin. >> tucker: how big an advantage is it physically for a male to compete against female high school students? >> they havesc a great advantage over us in terms of skeletal system and muscle mass. in the 100 yard dash they would finish and the girls were still at the 80 meter mark. it's not a close race at all. >> tucker: this appeal is

necessary because you were turned down in court. what was the judge's reasoning here? >> that's right. the lower court got it wrong. they told her and the other female athletes your accomplishments don'the matter. and 14 months after we filed the federal lawsuit, the courtmp dodged the main iss. which is the fundamental unfairness forcing girls to compete against biological males. there are physical differences between the sexes. our laws need to recognize those differences. so that we can protect girls like selena. >> tucker: they never acknowledged it's unfair? that's the core point. there are some deeper points about society, but in this case it's unfair and they never acknowledged it? >> that's right. in the state of connecticut two male athletes in three seasons have taken 15 women's state championship titles and more than 85 opportunities for girls

to advance to the next level ofh competition. they have lost out on titles and podium spots and other opportunities. o in that needs to be remedied. >> tucker: since you are at these events, what do the parents say? oh, aa group of men just won while the girls are still on the 80 meter line and that seems right to us? are parents okay with this? >> most parents support us. they realize there is a great difference between a man and a woman's body. some have daughters and sons that do sports. and they see the differences alone so most are in support of us. >> tucker: i have to ask, you want to be compassionate. if you are a male athlete winning every race do they acknowledge they have an advantage? it seems like bad sportsmanship to put it mildly. >> it's science that males have a great physical advantage over females. saying science is not a factor

is wrong. >> tucker: it is wrong. i don't know if we acknowledge science him. -- anymore. i hope you both force us to. thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. so lieutenant colonel was fired from force for telling the truth about what is going on. that's next.

>> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: matt went to the air force academy. spent years in the u.s. military flying planes. at the beginning of this month, he was lieutenant colonel in the space force in charge of a squadron. thenus he was fired just the otr day because he made public comments on a podcast about something that is real. the wild political propaganda and bigotry not being forced on enlisted office in the u.s. military. critical race theory. excedrin. he said this is going on and they fired him. we had an hour long conversation

with this lieutenant colonel and you have to think this guy is smart. interesting and thought. and descent and patriotic and exactly the person you want in the u.s. military and they fired him. it's on the latest episode of tucker carlson today. here is part of it. >> [loud music playing]. >> [inaudible]. >> we don't engage in the political realm. when i see activism like that in the last year more than ever ctbefore. for the entire past year. the kinds of things you see in the culture revolution in 1966 are a mere reflection of what we saw over the past year in this country. you've got people demanding that people apologize for race or group they belong to. they shut down schools but allowed people to gather in peaceful protests and they claim they are peaceful and they turn violent because the shouting

gets people's blood boiling. that'sin the intent of the all f the shouting. is to get people's blood boiling. everything that you see taking place in this country is the plague ofak marxism. i studied a great deal the past several years. and when i see that seeping into the united states military, i need to bring this up. of all places if the military institution becomes vulnerable to this kind of rhetoric, then we are doomed as a country. >> tucker: that's where all of the guns are. that's the police department and thell military. >> police departments and the military, in fact one of the things that concerns me the most, i can't imagine -- police officers have a very tough job in this country at the moment. the fact i know some police officers who are wrestling with the idea of whether they can bring their family through this crucible over the next few years and continue serving and they are good people.

if you have good people interested in serving in the police force and they are put off by the military. who are you left with? that's a concern. >> tucker: isn't that the whole point of it, so people like you won't join the military? >> you could allege that's the case and might be. i don't care what people's race is, their politics, left or right or black or white or something else. they are all put off bay this. if they joined in a free country to serve their country, to take the oath to defend the constitution and put on the uniform. they don't care what the politics are, they can't like what they are hearing. that the country is systemic racism why lay your life on the

line to defend that? and on the other hand, if you are a white male and you are told you are a big part of the problem. or you are an extremist because you are conservative and voted for donald trump, let's say, you start to talk like that and i don't care the politics, there will be hard questions, you have the desire to serve the military? >> tucker: exactly. that conversation went on for an hour. we also asked him about recent ufo sightings as a pilot of space force. he said maybe of the most interesting part he identified a large number of left wing extremists threaten those who don't support joe biden and he said he has never met anyone who is a white supremacist. they may exist, but they are not running around, unlike what they

are telling you and congress. that's it for us. that is it on fox nation. you can go on fox and look it up immediately. tune in every night at 8 p.m. the sworn enemy of of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. sean hannity is in nashville with a s special hour starting right now. ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we are broadcasting in music city, tennessee. the sight of the republican governors association and their springve conference. we will have an open discussion with six of the nation's top governors about the state of our country. we will take on immigration and talk about the southern border and taxes and law and order. we will also be talking about what works in the