tom brady and phil mickelson will team up with -- i'll go with mickelson. they do a lot of trash talking online. watch that go back and forth. you have this little thing at the event down there. >> dana: somebody was trash talking me because he had mint green shoes. harris, take it away. ligence team to get to the bottom of where and how the covid-19 killer really began including whether it originated in that wuhan lab in china. yesterday we learned the biden state department shut down an investigation into that same lab which started under the

trump administration. congressman brian mast pointed to political motivation. >> the biden administration had to move away from anything that was blaming china because they were on the xenophobe ic rant. they were trying to use it to hammer president trump even though he was right. we have spent more assets with our intelligence agencies to find the origins of this than we have anything and still not that much closer because they are doing everything to hide it. they wouldn't be doing that if it was an accident. >> harris: peter doocy with more. >> good morning. now that president biden has revealed one u.s. spy agency told him it's possible covid-19 leaked out of a lab in china, some lawmakers want to know did it come from a project there being funded with u.s. tax dollars >> there is no way of guaranteeing that but in our

experience with grantees, including chinese grantees, which we've had interactions with for a very long period of time, they are very competent and trustworthy scientists. i'm not talking about anything else in china i'm talking about the scientists. >> there it is possible scientists in china doing experiments to make coronavirus stronger may have been doing it with u.s. dollars. they have 89 more days to brief biden about how covid started. >> if it turns out that covid-19 originated from a lab accident in china would the president seek to punish china? >> we aren't going to go there just yet. we have to go through the 90 day review. >> president biden spent months on the campaign trail talking about the different ways he would help the country recover from the pandemic. the attention is kurng for the first time during this

administration to how did this happen. >> harris: thank you very much. "wall street journal" editorial board is taking aim at white house chief medical advisor dr. anthony fauci. in may 2020 dr. fauci dismissed the lab theory that his organization had funded the wuhan lab through a nonprofit. even if u.s. funding did not go directly to research that potentially caused the pandemic, it is still problematic. public officials like mike pompeo and donald trump began to support the possibility but accused of trying to distract from the administration's pandemic missteps. general jack keane, retired four star general and fox news senior strategic analyst. general, always great to see you. so strategy is at hand here because china knew exactly what it was doing by keeping people out. it wasn't just us. it was the w.h.o., thailand who wanted in early.

what would it have taken for us to get on the ground early? >> we offered to be on the ground to help them right from the beginning and china refused all of that, much less decide where the origins were. we wanted to help them. that should have been a sign right away there was some kind of problem here because china doesn't want our scientific help or doesn't want our cdc in there, all of that was pushed back. the tragedy of this is we've lost a whole year because president trump and his administration raised this point and because i think they did it, there was huge political opposition to it and huge media opposition to it. now there seems to be a growing consensus that it is likely that the wuhan lab may indeed be the cause of this. and listen, so our audience understands there are 75 laboratories in china that deal with these kinds of things and

a number of them are there also to weaponize this technology. to use it as a weapon of mass destruction. the wuhan lab is one of those labs. so there is no doubt in the minds of scientists in the united states who know what is happening, they take a virus that exists and they try to extend that virus, to strengthen it because they want to weaponize it. there is also people in the wuhan lab that are there too determine how to treat viruses should they arise and they have thousands of these viruses in house. the circumstantial evidence seems very compelling to me. the one thing i would add that maybe the audience doesn't noe, we immediately put a general in charge of that lab right after these incidents happened and also secured it. that tells you there was something going on there that they wanted to protect. i think the finger pointing that xi -- we should put the pressure on him through

international bodies, the united states in the lead, if you say it did not come out of the wuhan lab, then provide us the evidence. show us the data and the evidence of what the origin is. we've always been able to find the origins of the pandemics in the past. show us now, president xi. here is what is happening in my judgment. his behavior in protecting is criminal behavior and that puts his regime at risk. if he becomes an international -- he will pull out all the stops to protect the lie china is telling. >> harris: before we move to the next point you taught the audience something so valuable. for you to so openly say the 75 labs in china, some of them working to weaponize what they have in them and you confirming wuhan was one of them, i have to think that the biden

administration would know that, too, not just the trump administration, not just the military leadership like yourself. and so why it took this long and now a 90-day review. let's try to get on the ground and from what you're saying i don't know, would it take military to do that? we'll talk about that another day and i want to get to this. a former u.s. marine who is an activist against north korean dictator kim jong-un's regime is fighting the biden administration's attempts to ex extradite him to space facing charges he would help an ambassador defect. he had an exclusive interview warns the regime has put a target on his back. >> the court has recognized there is a danger to my life and to those around me if i leave this country. the same department of justice that has told me that if i leave the country, that i could

be assassinated is the same department of justice that is trying to extradite me so yes, the fear is there. >> harris: general keane, why is this happening first of all? >> well, christopher ahn clearly is a very heroic person because he is fighting north korea in a movement called free north korea. and what he has been helping specifically, he and his cohorts is actually get people who want to come out of north korea, to help them to defect. and that is what was taking place in this incident here. they had reason to believe that there were diplomats in the north korean embassy who had indicated to them a desire to defect. they were trying to help that. i think the tables got turned on them. we don't know exactly what happened. but that maybe somebody got cold feet and told the authorities what was taking place. and that is why they called the

spanish authorities and they intervened. i think the biden administration should intervene here to assist. listen, ahn knows he is taking huge amount of risk here and i why i call him a heroic figure. they could dill -- kill him in the united states. >> harris: do you think they could pull that off an u.s. soil? >> i don't put anything past what kim jong-un is capable of doing when it comes to something like that. do i think he would do it on u.s. soil? no. is it a possibility? yes. it raises the specter of that if he is overseas. >> harris: general keane, thank you very much. a lot to think about. president biden may have been more involved in his son hunter biden's business dealings than either has let on. we'll show you some of the newly unearthed emails and what the president said about it all in the past.

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>> harris: attorney general merrick garland has announced a plan to give help to cities around the nation seeing a surge in violent crime. it comes one year after the murder of george floyd sparked

new riots, violent protests and calls to defund the police. now some strategists are warning the crime spike could be bad political news for democrats. the latest fox news poll shows 73% of voters believe there is more crime around the country now than a year ago. and 54% say there is more crime in their own local area. senator tim scott, republican from south carolina joining me now. first of all, what does this specific number in polling tell you about what's happening with crime across the country and how people see it? >> it is devastating. when you demonize police officers and defund police departments you should expect a spike in crime. you cannot make police officers the antagonists in the story. no one wants that. last year, year before last i had a.g. barr in south

carolina meet with leaders about defunding police. they all said that is a dumb idea. democrats led by the liberal elite have made a bad decision. we are seeing it in cities around the country. violent crime is significantly higher and murders, harris, murders are through the roof. you cannot demonize officers, take away their resources and expect them to do the job that desperately needs to be done. >> harris: senator, real quickly where is the legislation that has you negotiating at the center of it? how is it going on capitol hill. when you say that many people 50 in a room agree you can't defund, why aren't we seeing that stopped? >> good news is some of these cities are finally coming to their senses. baltimore's mayor who used to be the city councilman who led the police to defund the police

by $22 million. now there is a $26 increase they're looking for. we're having new conversations. los angeles, new york city trying to restore 90 plus million dollars. there is a reality on the streets of america that we need character-driven officers coming into areas that everybody else is running from. one of the reasons why i'm optimistic about police reform is we start the conversation talking with the police so that when we talk about reform, we're not punishing or demonizing. we will strengthen the police officers' ability to have better relationships in the community. that's what they want and that's what the community wants. and that is good. it is a two-way street. >> harris: it means some of these leaders in democrat-led cities will have to sit down at the table with police otherwise the conversation will run away from them. they won't be at the table because as you said the proof is in the pudding when crime spikes. you have to spend the money now

to turn it around. i want you to see this. a new fox poll shows that 58% of respondents say that racism is a major threat to the stability of our country. however, another poll shows the vast majority of voters say they trust police and law enforcement and those majorities polled among all groups. whatever the situation, where you live. you trust the cops. what does that say to you? >> i think it's great news and reinforces what i've been saying for the last year. that the vast majority of officers want to do their job and go home to their family. for most officers, this is a mission driven by their soul to do good for their country and their community. african-americans, hispanics and whites all agree that the police -- we are better with them than without them. we call it in south carolina

common sense. >> harris: we call it that everywhere i've ever lived. let me get to this. earlier this week the family of george floyd came to capitol hill and i understand they met with you and some other top lawmakers including president biden. the clock is ticking to reach an agreement on police reform legislation which you and i just touched on. let's go deeper. yesterday you said it was june or bust to get a deal done. in an interview your democratic colleague senator cory booker praised your efforts leading bipartisan negotiations. >> i have had moments in this negotiation that have given me solace and strength as i've watched tim scott share stories about his own encounters with police. he is not caving to the politics of this. he is sincere. we may have disagreements on a lot of parts of the bill but i'm telling you as a black man tim scott is sincere in wanting

to see us address these problems. >> harris: first of all your reaction to that. >> well, that's awfully kind of corey to have those comments come out of his mouth and i appreciate them. i am a guy who has had challenges experiences as i said before, stopped 19 times in the last 20 years as an african-american driving without speeding. driving while black but at the same time i've gone door-to-door with police officers delivering christmas presents in the poorest communities in my neighborhoods. most officers are good people doing good work for very low pay. and so for us to not understand both sides of the coin is to go into an argument or discussion or debate blind. i'm not blind. i have confidence in our law enforcement. i know that we can make it better. we can make it safer for the officers and the communities and that's why i'm at the table

because i have experienced both sides and i come out a champion for officers and will champion the cause of making communities safer and restoring confidence from communities for the officers because the officers are willing to do what very few people can do and are also willing to do. >> harris: senator, you said june or bust. are we going to get a bill? >> i hope so. i really hope so. i am praying for a bill. working on a bill. every day we spend hours on this legislation. >> harris: you have some bipartisan not just support but some negotiation from that side of the table that might get the situation going forward. you and i have said it before when a deal starts to cool, it is cooled and so you put a date to it and you'll keep us informed. you also have publicly taken on the rise of so-called woke capitalism. let's get into it. during a recent senate hearing with the ceos of bank of

america, goldman sachs, you senator asked them about their recent decision to sign a let opposing what they call discriminatory legislation after progressives outcry over georgia's new election law. let's watch. >> seems like you all are very comfortable picking winners and losers particularly those who signed the letter in opposition to georgia. you all have taken such a strong, clear position but can't or won't articulate the reason for that position. >> harris: so i thought that was a technical glitch. no one spoke up? >> it was so quiet i was stunned. i simply asked for a single reason why you do not support the georgia law and they had not a single word was uttered because they don't know why

they don't support it because as one person tried to say, it is how they feel about the law, not what the law says. not what the law says. >> harris: feelings. >> the funny thing. i asked a question that said early voting is now more in the law than it was before. they codified drop boxes that were illegal before. we are talking about having a law that makes it easier to vote but harder to cheat. what do you not like about the law? and one thing -- they sat there for 40 or 45 seconds in silence. >> harris: wow. these are some of -- and you correct me if i'm wrong. i won't say names bus i don't know who in the room it would be. i know enough about politics to know they're in line some of them with the talk about yeah, go ahead and boycott that mlb situation, pull that from georgia to colorado, destroy

that local georgia economy by doing that, weakness, blah blah blah. >> it's amazing. you are talking about the largest banks in our country with the type of fire power and political power to really crush opponents when they sign onto a letter that literally -- about a law they haven't read and positions that they haven't really understood. it's stunning, the impact that woke capitalism will have on our nation. when you say to people because of their partisan affiliation that we think you are bad, that you are a racist because you are a republican, that is a dangerous message that will haunt us as a nation and it is irritating because i understand the hard work being done on both sides of the aisle. we should not play politics with race. it is dangerous. we're seeing it today with our jewish brothers and sisters. we've seen it in african-americans.

we'll see it with white folks as we start discriminating against them in the farm bill, the covid package where we give money to black farmers but not white farmers. we cannot make legal discrimination. it is terrible for our nation and we fought against it for the last seven decades. i apologize for being emotional on this but it is ridiculous. it has to stop. >> harris: you are telling us things even in the farm bill we learn through you. i know you have to go. i have one quick last question for you and i'll put it out there. republicans have come up with a counter on infrastructure. can it get done bipartisan? are we going to see it? >> i think it can. the goal must be to focus on the traditional definition of infrastructure, not $400 billion for family planning or electric vehicles but for roads, bridges, airports, ports, railways and high speed broadband. when we focus on those. >> harris: what infrastructure is. >> when we focus on those

issues, the led the charge and brought together a bipartisan coalition that i think can transform the roads we drive on in america. >> harris: senator tim scott, it has been an interesting few months as you try to push through several bills that you are working on. we appreciate your time today. good to see you. thank you. >> i meant the covid bill not the bill for the farmers. >> harris: the biden administration, its education department says k-12 schools can use covid relief money for quote, unquote, anti-racist therapy for white educators? is this where our tax money should be going? >> president biden: i never discussed their business, my business, my sons or daughters and never discussed them. i know where i have to do my job. >> harris: oh oh, but now there

are reports that emails from hunter biden's laptop indicate the president did, in fact, meet with hunter's business partners while he was vice president. we call that receipt. "fox & friends" weekend co-host will cain on that. stay put.

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>> harris: we come in with a fox news alert and some significant news now out of two new studies. researchers have found immunity to the coronavirus lasts at least a year and possibly a lifetime. and will improve over time especially after vaccination. they also suggest most people who have recovered from covid-19 and were later vaccinated will not need a booster shot. steve harrigan is live in atlanta. we know good news when we hear it. >> it is really good news for those who had the coronavirus

and been vaccinated. according to two new studies, immunity cells remain in the bone marrow. if you've been vaccinated and already had coronavirus, you are likely to be immune at least for a year and perhaps for a lifetime. which would mean you wouldn't need a booster shot. if you've not had coronavirus but been vaccinated, you are likely at some point down the road to need the booster shots. ohio lottery program has begun and they named the first winners this week trying to boost the rate of vaccination in ohio where it has been flagging. a young woman won a million dollars and a young boy won a full college sklolship for getting vaccinated. the governor said the program is already working. >> our goal was to get more people vaccinated and also to get people who might eventually get vaccinated get vaccinated quicker. we are getting a lot more people vaccinated because of

this lottery and we've seen the number of people get vaccinated go up 45%. we were going down, down and now we're moving up. >> i'm pretty surprised about it and happy and thankful. >> we're thrilled. we can hardly believe it. it is really exciting. >> a free four year full ride to that young man to an ohio state university. four other states beginning lotteries to try to boost the rate of vaccination. harris. >> harris: we're learning that taxpayer covid-19 relief funds are pushing far left initiatives inside schools. congress earlier this year approved nearly $200 billion for school districts but they must reserve a fifth of that cash for information which responds to students' academic, social and emotional needs. according to the biden

education department that is removing disciplinary or punitive practice that -- requiring learning from students, families and educators who disrupt whiteness and other forms of oppression and offering free anti-racist therapy for white educators and support staff. will cain joins me now. will, your first thoughts. >> my first thought, harris, is we're probably going to look back at this moment in american history and realize the complete and utter schizophrenia loss of mind for our culture. really, through the trojan horse of ambiguous and emotionally correct language we went back into segregation and racism at the deepest levels since we exited through state-sponsored racism in the 1950s. it will be a moment in history that we'll be ashamed of,

harris. >> harris: we talk about education that will take us all forward with our little ones. you are saying we took a deep step backwards. >> no doubt about it. i have these conversations often with friends and i would like to think i know that i have friends that come from not just different ideological and political spectrums but across the racial divide as well. one of the things that people can do a ride along on a wave of platitudes. i use that phrase the trojan horse a moment ago. people ride along on phrases like empathy and understanding and ideas we need to understand different life experiences and underneath that ambiguous language and those platitudes then comes the more insidious stuff. look at this specific study, this specific directive here. what you see is unvarnished racism. peel back the layers of the language and you see things like it's white supremacy to be on time. i'm serious for anyone not aware. look at the documents from

lockheed martin or disney or this one as well from the biden administration. it characterizes things like -- it is insidious racism wrapped up in trojan horse flowery language. >> harris: it takes a stab on the other issue of race, too. stabs of people at color who one of the tropes against african-americans is that we're always late. >> right. >> harris: wow, that's an inintended consequence for them. they are not celebrating the number one category of diversity. diversity of thought. i didn't hear that mentioned in there. we have to move forward. i want to get to this. emails reportedly from hunter biden's abandoned laptop show that president biden did in fact have dinner with hunter's overseas business partners. including those from ukraine and russia while he was in fact

still vice president. the "new york post" not holding back with this headline calling those associates shady. one of the emails from hunter biden about an april 2016 dinner reads this way. dad will be there but keep that between us for now. oh, it's in writing. this flies in the face of what the president has said multiple times about staying out of his children's business dealings. let's take a quick peek. >> mr. vice president how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings? >> never spoken this him. never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period. >> you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business dealings? >> i stand by that statement. >> hum. it makes you wonder. i think every single one of us would have to look in the

mirror and ask ourselves what's our appetite for manipulation and lies? you have been manipulated and lied to blatantly. for more than a year. it really -- this story the hunter biden laptop story arc follows very neatly with the covid came from a wuhan lab is a conspiracy theorist idea. it has followed that same playbook. that's crazy talk, russian disinformation, that's conspiracy. it is dismissed, it manipulates every person out there and manipulated a presidential election. both stories did. none of it is true. time has the ability, if we pay attention, to unveil the facts and the truth. thank goodness for organizations like the "new york post" and fox news for caring more than the manipulation. this is shocking, harris, only to those who rode on the wave of manipulation and lies. >> harris: as a journalist it

is -- you don't just need what they bring you. you have to be hungry for more and curious. this goes into a media zone talking about how the story with the wuhan lab took the same arc as this one. the other place it took the same arc, those of us asking questions at the time were getting stickers slapped on our twitter as journalists saying don't ask about the wuhan labor say anything about hunter biden. when you go to my feed or other journalists, it was stickers. it made it look like we didn't know what we were doing and look now. we're asking the same questions now just getting different answers. >> you weren't just greeted with a hand wave or greeted with an insult. you were greeted with censorship and kicked off the platforms if you dared to talk about the origins of coronavirus or the hunter biden story. it was censored off big tech.

it is like out of the matrix to be honest. i don't mean to be hyperbolic but it is too real. >> harris: i may be the only american who has never seen that series. i have to watch it now because of you, will cain. thank you very much. good to see you today. are democrats getting a wake-up call on woke culture? why a "new york times" op-ed suggestions wokeness could be kryptonite for the democratic party. i said the times is writing that. why cnn anchor chris cuomo is getting called out for his claims about the coronavirus lab leak theory. oh, there is more with chris. >> trumpers who were complicit in playing down the pandemic reality in america are now seeing more interest in the china lab theory as some kind of vindication.

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>> harris: critics are going after cnn anchor chris cuomo again for something he told his viewers last night. >> the government had not been open to the lab theory. that is why it's so politically charged. it was dismissed as a conspiracy early on. trumpers who were complicit in

playing down the pandemic reality in america are now seeing more interest in the china lab theory as some kind of vindication. enough to play i told you so with fauci. >> harris: one twitter user called chris cuomo a straight up liar saying it would matter to a responsible journalistic outlet but for cuomo he works for cnn. a news analyst pointed out cuomo himself called it breaking news when he reported the u.s. was looking at the lab theory back in april of 2020. check this out. >> the united states is pursuing the theory that the virus started in a chinese lab, not a market. part of the curiosity is we don't know a lot because somebody changed a virus structure enough to make it a mystery for us. u.s. intel and national security officials say the

united states government continues to investigate whether the coronavirus originated in a chinese laboratory, not a wet market. so this is a story to watch. >> harris: power panel jason chaffetz former utah congressman. jason nichols. professor of african-american studies at the university of maryland. chaffetz, nicolls. i will come to you first, chaffetz. >> his words speak for themselves. the reality is when donald trump talked about it, answered a question and said yes it's something we're looking at everybody on the left said that's not true. the knee jerk reaction out there. there have been a lot of us who have said we have to get to the origins of this. we cannot rely on the world health organization to do this because of their proximity and

closeness with china. this has always been an avenue to pursue and it is amazing how liberals just dismissed it because it was donald trump and his administration. >> harris: yeah, nicolls, i am curious as to how cuomo promised to get to the bottom of it but then cnn didn't. >> i can't speak for chris cuomo or cnn but i do think we can comment on the first part of what he said. that is that trump knew the virus was deadly stuff and that's a quote but lied to the american people and admitted it in an interview to bob woodward. that is what he is referring to. jason is right is right about a lot of what he said. people also didn't trust donald trump because he had been so anti-science throughout this process and also some of the other comments he made about chinese people and the virus made a lot of people worried

about anything he said. so he undermined what actually was a valid comment in many ways. we did need to look at the origins of this and he was right about that but undermined himself with his own commentary. >> harris: chaffetz, i want to make sure nichols didn't put words in your mouth. quick thoughts. >> i think the president took the very first action in shutting down the travel from china. it was the democrats and joe biden and nancy pelosi who came out and made it political and said that was somehow xenophobic and wrong and it was disparaging. the president was trying to shut down the travel because he was following the science. and he was ridiculed for it and chastised for it. it was months later that schumer and the others change and i had it was right. >> harris: we hadn't talked about shutting down a country because of covid and the strain and so forth. when biden was talking about doing it with india and travel from there i didn't hear those

words of xenophobia. joy behar said this about former trump's early assertion that the coronavirus originated in the wuhan laboratory. >> trump was blaming the chinese from the beginning using them as scapegoats. if it happens to be true it comes from wuhan it was a lucky break on his part. he took a guess in my opinion. >> harris: that was a pretty specific guest. nichols, the president and others at the time were talking about that lab. we already knew scientists were sick. we didn't know until this week until they were hospitalized. >> you have to have joy behar here to defend herself. i won't defend her. >> harris: good choice. >> i believe and we agree but with a caveat there, that is that trump knew a whole lot.

he knew a whole lot about this virus but ignored it or down played it purposefully to the detriment of the american people. he down played masks. i knew it was airborne. he said it with an interview with bob woodward. him calling it the kung flu and now we see a rise in anti-asian hate. he knew a lot about what was going on, i would agree with that. he said some things that were correct but promoted drugs that were ineffective and other things that undermined all of that. >> harris: jason, real quick. >> the president has an intelligence service behind him and i think it was wrong for everybody just because donald trump said it to dismiss it. and there are a lot of republicans and trump supporters who got out there and said the president was talking about this and you dismissed it and shame on the

national media for not pursuing this actually might be the origin of it and the reality is it did come from china no matter how you slice it, it came from china. >> harris: we had it on tape chris cuomo saying they would follow it and we also have the receipts they didn't. we'll move to this now. it is another quick look. facebook now as it is called is changing its tune as well saying in a new statement quote, unquote. in light of ongoing investigations into the or ij knowledge of covid and consultation with public health experts we will no longer remove the claim that covid-19 is manmade from our apps. nichols. >> i think that again i understand facebook's concern in the beginning of spreading an idea that covid was manmade in 1980. in the 80s they were saying

that hiv was made by the american government. i'm glad they are -- >> harris: go back to chaffetz. 10 seconds. >> social media should have never taken that off. they didn't know if it was true or not. ends up it might be more true than not. they were fundamentally wrong. >> harris: censorship or something else. gentlemen, thank you. thank you for watching "the faulkner focus". "outnumbered" after the break. but i've seen centuries of this. with one companion that hedges the risks you choose and those that choose you. the physical seam of a digital world, traded with a touch. my strongest and closest asset. the gold standard, so to speak ;) people call my future uncertain. but there's one thing i am sure of...

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>> harris: fox news alert, president biden reversing course and authorizing an investigation into the wuhan laboratory in china. this coming after his state department ended the same investigation that trump administration had launched into whether the deadly novel coronavirus originated in that lab. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley is