that, you'd feel a little warmer and nicer toward me. maybe i guess not. by the way, i recognized your writing. we might share some other tomorrow going to go live with cavuto. he will love him, not a bad thing. forget about it. but enough about me. >> hello, everybody. i am dagen mcdowell along with greg gutfeld, jessica tarlov, dan bongino, and gillian turner. at 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. a major development on the wuhan covid lab leak investigation, the official who led the probe that president biden then shut down says his team found almost nothing to suggest a virus occurred naturally.

>> the national institutes of health and dr. fauci that there was almost no evidence that supported a natural evolution or source of covid-19. the data disproportionately stacked up as we investigated it was coming out of the lab for some supernatural source. >> dagen: house lawmakers are preparing to introduce two new bills aimed at china today. when establishing a commission investigating the origins of the pandemic, the other allowing americans to sue beijing. republicans are pressuring president biden to hold china accountable. >> the evidence i think strongly suggests that this virus escaped from one of the two institutes

of virology and wuhan, china. >> the chinese government responsible for unleashing the worst pandemic in a century on the world. >> we need to hold china accountable instead of rewarding them and need to be held accountable financially for what they have done to the world. >> dagen: dan bongino, to you first. senator cotton was talking about that virology lab and wuhan in january of last year. >> dan: i don't want to hear another peep from a liberal or a talking head media buffoon ever again about a conspiracy theory. they never produced evidence about any of this stuff. you have the hoax with the collusion thing, no evidence of that either but that became an international scandal. there was no evidence that this thing ever came from a bat or whatever, still haven't produced the animal. amazing how we have a worldwide

pandemic and not one single sample from others. what's even more infuriating is anyone with common sense outside the ecosystem would've seen from the start that this was probably a lab leak. let's walk through some basic facts in case you were reading "the new york times." we had a lab and wuhan for the pandemic originated that studied back coronavirus is where coronavirus got out and they suddenly made that more powerful than the lab had security problems in the past? must be natural. that's what liberals came to the conclusion. this has got to be one of the most infuriating stories in modern history and it's all the media's fault. one more quick thing, what's incredible is when the chinese government put out propaganda, don't you dare say that this was a lab leak. somebody ate bad soup and then someone commented about people eat that soup and everyone was called a racist for even commenting on it for a story

that was obviously chinese propaganda. this is an infuriating mess, the media should wrap up shop and go home. >> dagen: that's part of a problem that dan just pointed out as all the people who wouldn't even allow where there is media talking heads for nancy pelosi calling at the trump virus, you weren't allowed to talk about something that was logical, that they would shut you down. >> gillian: i don't think the problem so much as a liberal versus a conservative divide but the problem here is willingness to hold china speed to the fire and hold the government responsible for this. i will say the reporting, that sound bite for the former state department official you played a moment ago matches up precisely with what an intelligence community official told me yesterday which is it has yet to be proven any evidence of that addition a year

and a half ago into the pandemic, a year and a half from where that initial case would've emerged, it's very unusual that they have not identified specific case at this point, sars one, 2, it all happen within a matter of months that they were able to identify the initial case and the fact that they don't have that here is very telling. another quick point here, the world health organization they have been relying on to investigate and gather underlying data just provides its own estimate this week not getting a lot of attention in the press for some reason. they have been telling us that they believe 3.4 million people have died the world over from covid. this week they said it's more likely to to three times that amount of people so now looking at seven to 11 million people dead around the world, the question is now that's double the holocaust. how do you even think about

holding them responsible for that? >> dagen: you can't rely on the world health organization because they lied communist china and the team that went in to investigate the virus, their conclusion was the virus was imported into frozen food into china, but that was a more likely conclusion than the lab leak and that came out just a couple of months ago. i want you to listen to this, dismissing the importance of investigating china. take a listen to this. >> the real issue is how do we protect ourselves from the next pandemic and how do we have an early warning system. >> the real issue is not how did this happen. that is the very issue because how do you prevent one unless you figured out what went wrong in the first place in china?

>> jessica: i think most liberals, even though when dan was talking about and say we need to know the origins and that's why president biden kind of taking things out of the hands of the w.h.o. and saying we need to listen to this for ourselves, there will be bipartisan agreement for that, sanctions are bills that would punish the chinese are also going to be welcome, certainly the figures talking about from a new report are true and i see no reason to believe that they aren't considering how it works with pre-existing conditions that we have lost that many people, they need to be held accountable but there is one element that we haven't discussed that i think is important to why people were so averse to going with that theory is it was also being tied to a lot of things that sounded pretty racist. i heard you grown, but it's true. let's talk about. it's only the a block, just give me a chance, the first block.

it's not dumb. >> dan: no one is racist. >> jessica: okay, wuhan virus, reporters being called that -- those things are racist. the rise of attacks against members of the atapi community is racist. beating people indiscriminately on the street because they are asian during the pandemic for the president of the united states of america is saying china, china, china is racist. there's a way to talk about it but i didn't cut you off and i really disagree. >> dagen: you made your point, i want to get greg in here. wuhan played, go. >> the reason why we didn't hold china accountable is because it wasn't trump. it was a political decision. you actually legitimately blame the people responsible then you couldn't blame the person you hate most. and i disagree with jessica

completely on this even if we found those terms racist, that does not excuse your dereliction of journalistic duty emma you were supposed to pursue a story whether this story is surrounded -- if the story is real and it is plausible and this one is plausible, a simple explanation, if you are in a small town and an explosion goes off, maybe check the bomb factory, don't go to the ice cream parlor and that's what this is. i learned my lesson that if i want to start a pandemic, i'm going to open my lab next to a wet market because apparently, that is plausible deniability and by the way, what markets are getting a bad rap, all the wet market is as a farmers' market with a few extra exotic animals, it's called wet because they hosed down the floor just like the bars that julian hangs out in d.c. >> gillian: eight months pregnant, so no bars.

>> greg: it's disgusting. and that's not the last thing. a second to the last thing. he doesn't mind because he is going to be dead soon. don't you remember him? the king of euthanasia saying high don't want to live that long, he is that guy, so he doesn't really care. lastly and i will shut up. you remember the time article about how all our major institutions, the median chamber of commerce all work together to unseat trump and even bragged about it, this is now a reoccurring trend in so many places that a coalition of powerful forces when they decide to manipulate an outcome they will do it, so they did it with the russian collusion thing, they did it with hunter biden, they did it with voter fraud, if you say -- if you mention voter fraud on youtube or twitter, just see how quickly that story disappears. right now, we are seeing this

happen with this story and seeing the outcome of it which is possibly many more people died because a bunch of people got together and they decided that this was a bad idea because of one word, trump was right and couldn't admit it, it had nothing to do with racism, it's sad and even on top of that, the impeachment circus has the pandemic spread assisted china and the virus. and that's not racist either. >> gillian: it wasn't even just trump because it is nonpolitical appointees and intel people who were not appointed by him were telling fox news and others the same thing a year ago. it was not only trumps people that were saying this a year and a half ago. >> he was the one that mattered, right? >> dagen: he was the one that mattered and he said it was the incompetence of china and nothing else that did this mass worldwide killing and he said that in may 2020, but it was the trump virus, not the wuhan

virus, not the virus out of china that killed more than three and a half million people around the globe, lab, lab, lab. up next, defunding the police isn't enough. some on the left now want to disarm the cops all while crime surges.

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argument the author is trying to make is that police have loaded handguns accessible even if they are responding to a traffic incident, a car stalls at an intersection or a cat stuck in a tree so this is why they don't need armed weapons with them except for some of the time. also, if you could tell us what a smart lockboxes, that would be great. i don't know what that means. >> dan: this article should be written about how we don't need the media, not how the police don't need firearms because of all the dumb ideas i think i've ever heard from the liberal media, defund the police and have police carry their firearm in smart lockboxes were use your fingerprints to open it is probably the dumbest and think about it, you set up without knowing it, the author said don't worry, who needs a gun? how do you know that? i can show you 50 or 100 videos

in under 5 minutes pulled off any video platform of police officers who thought they were pulling someone over for a traffic ticket and ended up in a coffin. so i think the writer from slate maybe dial it back and doing some journalism homework before you keep insisting please do things that will get them killed. >> gillian: i'm coming to you next because you've heard a lot of dumb ideas and dan says this is maybe the dumbest he's ever heard, what is it ring for you? >> greg: pretty stupid but it's coming from slate. we are legitimately -- wasn't that clever? and it's friday, and i'm not drunk yet. we are legitimately in the 1970s when i was looking at that video, the crime is viable ring death wish and it does brand impair the asian hate crime is overwhelmingly done by a nonwhite, mentally ill homeless people and has nothing to do with wuhan but we have gas prices going through the roof, jimmy carter part two, crime. all i want is a threes company reboot and some mr. piven i will

be right at home. there was this old line that we would hear that a conservative is a liberal mugged by reality and now today's liberal is doing the mugging and not talking about good traditional liberals of these young defund the police types that have no idea the science of incentives and disincentives. the past two years have been a lesson in disincentives and incentives. you make it impossible for cops to do their jobs, then they can't. that emboldens criminals. you release criminals before the cops are done with their paperwork, that emboldens criminals. you only focus on law-abiding gun owners, not the illegal handguns being used, you embolden criminals, all of these ideas are coming from places like slate and from academia so we listen to them by this will only get worse, the long-term consequences will be withdrawal of public law enforcement, rise in private security that can only be afforded by the wealthy,

people will leave, america will become much more spread out and perhaps safer but that's what's going to happen and the people that are going to be hurt are the older people still stuck in the cities because they can't afford to leave, they are the ones who will be victims like the elderly asians you see every week, not a mistake they are older because they can't get out. >> gillian: it does seem to be some early inklings of buyers remorse between city council members, new york, minneapolis, some of them saying maybe we need to get some of the funding moved back into the police department. these are your people. give us a breakdown. >> jessica: some of those people that are not my people. we are all democrats, but i've been pretty consistent about this from day one since i heard the chant of defund the police that it was a terrible idea and people would be hurt or people of color in communities that actually have the highest level

of approval for law enforcement and i'm glad we're friends again now that i have something to say about the wuhan thing. >> greg: you'll be wrong, but it's okay. >> jessica: no, i'll be right. certainly did after 2020 midterms when saying that the chant cost democrats and talked about that as well and it's really interesting to see here what's going on with the may oral race because eric adams who was black and a former police officer has now taken the lead in some polls, but surpassed andrew yang talking about being tough on crime but also supporting law enforcement and i'm sure will be a cornerstone of that campaign against marco rubio for senate in florida the first black female police chief in orlando, that's where we need to become a tough on crime, smart reforms that everybody agrees we need to make hopefully to get something done

with tim scott who seems ready to deal there but defund the police was a nonstarter and only 18% of americans are supportive of it. >> gillian: a save the best for last of the floor is yours. >> dagen: you bet, hot stuff. do you know how bad it is for the democrats that you have somebody like james carville who is past its sell by day but is still smart writing in "the wall street journal" saying that it is the democrats who are tough on crime, they are the party of law and order, donald trump's stunning display of lawlessness sudden example for criminals to crawl out of the shadows and believed that they would never be brought to justice. he literally is blaming a crime wave. when donald trump called the rioters rioters, sit in several

in several authorities to at least protect federal buildings with not one democrat until the poll numbers turned against them saying violence and the burning of cities and the looting of businesses is a bad thing. this is desperation is the worst cologne and i can smell him from here. he is throwing anything he can against the wall trying to change the narrative. the fact is, it is not just defunding police, it is bail reform, hit an elderly asian woman in the face, you get out with no bail, they are weak mirrors, weak governors releasing cop killers, parole boards filled with liberals and then there weak district attorneys who would rather coddle and swaddle criminals that stand up for victims of violent crime. that's the party of law and order.

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court and charles barkley has a crazy idea on how to solve that issue. >> i think you should be able to go up in the stands and beat the [bleep] out of 1 person per game. a fan says something really rude or pull something on them, you can say come on down right down the half-court then you settle it like men. >> jessica: i don't know about anyone else but i've been watching those guys every night so i can't get enough charles barkley but i want to start first with the southwest plane incident, so this is about mask wearing which is going to be a contentious issue moving forward certainly the cdc has relaxed the rules for not being on public transport. how do you see this playing out? >> gillian: not in any good way that i want a part of. that debate will rage on probably for another year. i want to say it's not just that but the agitation and the irritation and violence breaking out. i read this great article in "vanity fair" and can't read the title because it has profane language and it but the point

they are making as there is all this inc. in the country and millions of americans, tens of millions are now part of couples that have divorced during the pandemic and now getting ready to call -- celebrate what they call hot back summer and all looking for hot hookups and getting drunk all the time so there's just a lot of weird juju in the air. >> jessica: i read a story that had waxed in the ride up. >> gillian: just thinking about it. >> greg: sounds like a typical vacation for you, what are you talking about? >> jessica: i wanted to go to you on the russell westbrook popcorn throwing incident and that fan has been permanently banned from the arena, do you think fans will settle down anytime soon? >> dan: i'd just want to say i'm not buying the whole premise of this segment. i really object. people are not crazier now.

i'm sorry, when i grew up, my brother and i took the mattress out of our house and put it on to skateboards and rolled it down a hill into an active intersection, then put in a ditch in the backyard and wanted to see if we could jump off the garage if we landed on the mattress, the problem now is people are recording it. someone can debate that at some point but now people have their phones and they are recording it and it just seems like we are all crazier. i dispute the entire premise of this segment. i don't believe it. >> jessica: i'm also thinking that when you called me dumb in the a block, i never did anything like that. >> dan: i didn't say you were dumb, i said the idea was done. >> jessica: charles barkley, right or wrong? >> dagen: i like a good fight, i don't know if someone will get sued and it will be the fellow with all the money, maybe one of the basketball players. i totally agree with dan talking

about all this violence, america's back end by the way, russell westbrook got some popcorn thrown at him. in philadelphia? popcorn? i'm surprised it's not god knows what. they booed santa claus, for pete's sake. >> jessica: take us home. the popcorn was egregious because it was buttered, a lot of saturated fat. i think dan is correct, we are now all content providers for the media, 350 million people with 200 million phones and the most visual stuff is this stuff, so we put it out there and it's fun to talk about, what an amazing story, but charles barkley is somebody who understands incentives.

is it suddenly okay for an athlete, 300-pound statue of muscle to beat up a fan, going to be amazing how quickly the fan stop throwing stuff and the fact that the guy lost his season tickets got punished more than the people beating up asians in new york. >> jessica: that is certainly a hot take because the fast of seven is up next. tex-mex. tex-mex. ♪ termites. ♪ don't mess up your deck with tex-mex. terminix. here to help.

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>> dan: welcome back. time for the fastest. getting even more video, some really strange and unexplained stuff. listening to sailors aboard

reacting in shock as they get swarmed by 14 ufos on radar. >> that was pretty much perfectly zero relative, right? >> 55 yards. >> dan: so how is this not a bigger story that we may have a ufo report? just curious, am i missing something? >> gillian: maybe it will be huge, the report will come out in a couple of weeks, maybe we'll pick up some steam but it seems like they should be front page news everywhere, i will also tell you something interesting i learned from covering this, interviewed they are both saying what worries them most is not that these are controlled by the alien life forces, they worry that they are controlled by america's

adversaries in the technology they have developed is so far advanced that we can't recognize it so it's pretty terrifying no matter how you look at it. >> dan: this sounds like ron burgundy, kind of a big deal. >> greg: according to slate, they were bats from a wet market. i'm going to use an analogy that may be only dan and i will understand, these videos we keep seeing remind me of those late night movies that you think you might see something and you watch and you say those are just birds, birds, i don't know what they are. flies on the lenses, is that an acoustic album by bob dylan? >> jessica: this time has been great for it seems like everybody just now kind of

excepts ufos are real because it felt like a real outlier conspiracy theory when i was growing up and evidence keeps mounting a lot of the last six months and people are pretty chill about it which i see as a positive. >> dan: are they setting this up for some huge bombshell all owing us to sleep? >> dagen: i get it, i've done a lot of free framing in my time. i wish donald trump was still in office because if they told him the real truth, you know he would've blabbed to the entire country. they would've let him, he would've opened up area 51 as an amusement park for revenue, so i kind of wish he was still there to get the truth. >> dan: next step, half of americans say they hide their favorite snacks from family members. i'll go back to you. my kids hide their snacks for me, not the other way around

because i'll eat anything. >> dagen: who had snacks left over to hide? as soon as i buy a box of twinkies, i walk and eat, they are gone by the time i get home. who has junk food left over to hide around the house? >> dan: are they hiding food from you too? >> greg: you never want to be too clever when you were hiding something because then you forget where you put it which has always been a problem when i am hiding my completely legally obtained edibles i am experimenting with, the best way to hide snacks are in a coat pockets of a jacket in the closet. and you pick it jacket that people don't normally wear, doesn't have to be snacks, can be a vaping pen or chocolate, 400 milligrams but that's where you hide it because you always go into the closet and it doesn't look like you were

trying to sneak something and then it never leaves the closet. >> gillian: that is a risky strategy. >> dan: any thoughts on gregg's theory on where to hide the snacks? >> jessica: this reminds me of in the city, talked about secret single -- eat a ton of twinkies, watching charles barkley commentate, that's how it looks like. >> dan: close us out here. >> gillian: i wouldn't go with the coat pocket because seasonal and you forget it's in there and then you will find it months later, that's just a lose-lose.

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>> greg: it is fan mail friday answering your questions. the first question is very interesting, it's from patch in the yard. what task do you enjoy that most people would find boring? all right, dagan. >> dagen: setting my bed. making the bed or setting the bed every morning. i do it as soon as i -- my feet hit the ground and i am meticulous about it and it is insane that i am so retentive. >> greg: you are answering for two now. what do you do that most people find boring? >> gillian: i would rather go to jail then make the bed but weirdly, i enjoy folding laundry and find a very therapeutic. >> greg: it is therapeutic.

we get to flatten them in the little square. >> gillian: it so good when you're done. >> greg: jessica, what boring thing do you like to do? >> jessica: i like color coding in my closet because we tend to wear plain colors so you can get all the shades really lined up. >> gillian: i like to invite you over. >> jessica: i would love to. fix your closet. >> greg: i don't think you do one boring thing in your life. >> dan: my whole life is boring. my studio is in my house. i'm like a hermit. but i used to think watching bob ross videos, a lot of people would think that was boring but turns out, it's not. everyone loves bob ross and doesn't think it's boring so i loved it, it was greatest thing ever. i need more happy little trees. >> gillian: he is having a big come back right now.

>> greg: what task for me? that people might find boring is actually boring, drilling holes. i love drilling holes. >> gillian: for no reason? >> greg: yes, it's boring. >> gillian: that sounds destructive. >> jessica: to hang paintings? >> greg: i rent a hotel upstate. >> dan: is that where you hide the twinkies? >> greg: yes. do what was saturday night like when you were 16? all right, dan. >> dan: am i allowed to say this on the air? >> gillian: he will probably get fired. >> greg: you have like 16 jobs. >> dan: i'm here because i want to be. was it jesse you have to ask for permission. we hang out in central park in queens and we may have had some things we shouldn't have been drinking at the time, said don't

do that, not suggesting it was good but you asked the question and i'm answering and sometimes we'd be out really late, super late, and the next day and did and already, that's weird. >> greg: so out in the park walking your dog, that sounds pretty normal. there you go. >> dagen: i went to an all girl school when i was 16 and it was a boarding school so i would be spending saturday night making little voodoo dolls out of panty hose and cotton balls of the boys who had rebuffed me the previous week. >> gillian: no one ever rebuffed you, don't lie. >> dagen: i've got a list, long one. >> greg: what about you? >> gillian: i grew up in new york like dan so i would hang out in central park a lot and drink evian water too. it was great.

>> dan: it was the best, right? >> greg: tell us something horrible you were doing when you were 16. >> jessica: i could make something up for the sake of the show but i don't think anyone would believe me. i also grew up in new york but i was at home with my parents drinking the evian and it was real evian like dan had. >> greg: my saturday i think was the love boat -- mary tyler moore, bob newhart, and the carol burnett show. that was the previous saturday and then remember that? mary tyler moore, what a great time that was. >> gillian: what is the difference? >> greg: she was pretty hot. one more thing is up next.

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i. >> dagen: time for one more thing greg, go. >> greg: you are on with me tonight at 11:00. the gutfeld show or gutfeld exclamation point. let's do this. ♪ animals are great. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great >> greg: do you know what? i love lemurs. i had no idea there is actually a different kind of liam mur known as a dancing lemur. it's called dancing lemur at the chester zoo. there he is pooping. don't show the damn lemur pooping. this is a family hour. if you want to see lemurs pooping you go watch don lemon's show he has a whole thing of lemurs pooping. what a beautiful, beautiful animal. by the way i resent all of you

for not laughing at my drilling joke. >> i still don't get it. >> greg: when you drill a hole it's called boring. >> oh were. future gut you people. >> dagen: i thought you were talking about, never mind. i really don't want to get fired on friday afternoon. dan? >> gillian: everyone is trying though. >> dan: it's true. if you are going to get fired detective fired on a monday not a friday. i want to announce i'm really honored again to be an expanded part of the fox family my fox nation show video simulcast of national radio show airs 12:00 noon to 3:00 p.m. eastern. check it out. little known secret they leave the camera on during the breaks which i sometimes forget so i'm not responsible for anything that happens on the breaks if you are watching on fox nation. i just want to put that disclaimer in there now thank you very much. >> dagen: thank you, dan. so my one more thing, celebrate

memorial day with some fox gear. go to shop.fox news.com. 15% on all orders if you use patriot. check out patriot t-shirt. got this cool mug and proud american hat. wait, i have got to adjust it because my head is the size of dan's. there you go. look at you? peace out. get some gear. gillian. go. >> gillian: you really look fabulous. i want to play this video of awesome video of arlington national cemetery on thursday. this is an annual project they do. flags. in they have 1,000 active service members. they put american flags in front of every single one of the 260,000 head stones. it's awesome reminder that memorial day is not just about hot dogs. it is also about reflecting on the american -- who paid the ultimate price the wonderful, beautiful reminder. >> dagen: jessica, real quick? >> jessica: real quickly very

few sporting event that could distract me from the nba playoffs as you know. incredible base running by chicago cubs shortstop xavier bay got full attention calling it wild. congratulations to baez and great win. out of time. bye. >> dagen: that's it. >> greg: didn't show the best part. >> jessica: watch it, so good. >> dagen: we have a memorial day special on monday. have a great weekend. ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight while president biden and his team deal with major foreign policy challenges from russia and china, we begin this evening with a longstanding problem here at home, the southern border crisis. immigration and border security, the biggest achilles heel for the president and latest fox news poll along with foreign policy actually we have new images tonight from the southern border region as hundreds of illegal immigrants are arrested in just one day. but the effects of that crisis can be seen on the