joining me, you should check out her podcast, thank you so much for watching fox news prime time this week. i'll be hosting fox and friends this week and will be here at 7:00 p.m. starting monday, thank you so much to all the producers, you make me look good. you write it, i read it. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and a welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." at some point, it was hard to imagine now, the current revolution will end. they can be sustained and you will wake up one morning in a country where we don't have to lie about everything all the time where mass is allowed, where we can acknowledge the profound and inherent differences between men and women without being fired for it. that day is coming.

the question is what will be left for society? we can't know the answer in detail but here's what we are hoping for, that reason remains. logic, the ability to think clearly and rationally, the one thing we can't lose, going to need it to rebuild. that's why of all the moral atrocities being committed at the moment in the name of equity and inclusion, it's the relentless attacks on science i should command our special attention. so for the next hour, we will consider those attacks in some detail and start with america's response to the covert pandemic. when the coronavirus first arrived in our country last winter, most americans uncritically accepted what the authorities said about it. if you imagined our leaders would leverage a public health emergency for their own political gain, that seemed like the one line that even politicians wouldn't cross and yet almost immediately, they crossed it. around the country, democratic

governors used quarantine restrictions to reward their allies and to punish their opponents. abortion mill stayed open but the police kept churches closed. you could buy weed, but couldn't get your knee replaced. demonstrations against lockdowns were banned, riots against donald trump were encouraged. watch the governor of michigan shamelessly explain the difference. >> it is probably not going to be safe to congregate in masses for quite a while and it's heartbreaking. we know that michigan is not alone in this moment. this is what's happening all across the country, these big gatherings just can't safely happen right now. the death of george floyd is once again shone a light on a systematic cycle of injustice in our country. to the overwhelming majority who have taken to the streets and protested peacefully, protesting historic inequities, those

across the country are facing, i hear you, i see you. i respect you, and i support your efforts to enact real, structural change in america. >> tucker: so you are no longer allowed to exercise your constitutional right of assembly unless it is to publicly support the democratic party. and it wasn't just the governor of michigan, gavin newsom to the same thing in california, phil murphy did in new jersey. it was partisan politics posing as science and this was the most amazing part. it was endorsed by actual scientists and that's the part that should worry you. he told us that structural racism was a bigger health threat in the coronavirus so go ahead and loot macy's, an important part of public health. for those who still believe that american science was on the level, this was a shocking moment, when did they become

corrupt religious zealots, when did scientists become ayatollahs? it happened years ago, the rest of us just for noticing. and february 2019, piece was published in the journal of neurology which is one of the preeminent peer-reviewed publications and all of medicine. it was called lucky on the root dr. described experience when a man in the deep south called reggie was suffering from a severe neuromuscular disorder which had left him blind. modern science might have helped reggie, but he didn't want to help. reggie believed he was blind because he had been cursed by a voodoo spell and then he refused treatment and left the doctor's office for good. the doctor who wrote this piece was a man called william campbell, believed in western science, he did not believe that voodoo was the cause of blindness and the piece he wrote was designed to help other physicians communicate with patients so they could receive

effective medical treatment. unfortunately, american medical journals are no longer allowed to criticize witchcraft. it's racist. so the editor of neurology began a purge of his own publication, he fired the humanities editor and suspended the entire section and then to further raton, diversity and inclusion. then robert grosses if this wasn't enough road of groveling apology letter for the peace calling his article racist and acknowledging they had caused english. nowhere in that letter did he explain any of this. why exactly is it racist to prefer western medicine to witchcraft? isn't that the whole point of our system? he never explained, just declared it racist and moved on so that the official policy of the top neurology journal that witchcraft is the same as western medicine and how dare you say otherwise. where does this leave you?

if you are nervous about brain surgery before, this is not comforting news, how long before they sacrifice a chicken in the operating room? that's a serious question. we can no longer say science is better than voodoo, that's racist. something similar has happened in the world of economic research, one of the top business journals in the world, deleted a paper from the internet without any explanation. the key thing to know is all the numbers in that paper were accurate and they were right. no one claimed otherwise. the piece went through peer review and was published. it was published because it was called this weird "examining investor reactions to appointments of black top management executives and ceos." we don't know what those reactions were, might be interesting to know but you can't know because the original version has disappeared. it is gone, now in a remote cave where we hide uncomfortable facts and been replaced by a heavily revised version so it's

the truth? we can't know. this is the furnishing of corruption but it has spread through science. take a look at the jobs postings that nature magazine, one of the foremost science publications on the planet. when nature is looking for now has nothing whatsoever to do, it's antiscience, here's a recent job posting on twitter, "as part of our commitment to foster diversity and inclusion, we are looking for a black candidate with a passion for science communication based in the u.k. for a full time paid internship." so the thing that jumps out is that no whites or asians or hispanics are allowed. is that legal? of course it's not legal but that's not really the point. the bigger problem him and it is bigger than civil rights law is that the people we trust to make the most important decisions in our society, essential decisions, what kind of medical research to refine, who gets treatment and who doesn't, who

lives and who dies, the people who make those decisions are no longer rational. they have lost the ability to think empirically. equity is now their god, they no longer believe in science. that's a real problem for the civilization. richard davis hanson has watch the rise and fall of civilizations but of the perspective of a historian, senior fellow at the hoover institute and happy to have him join us now. thank you so much for coming on. so what does it portend for the future that science has been so completely corrupted that it is dictated by political demands rather than by observable fact? >> i think we are watching the legacy of the people who put galileo in jail. they said the earth was the center of the universe and the solar system and galileo was a not for saying that the planets revolve around the sun so there's a pattern here where we have these bicoastal elites with

letters after their names that say right here, science stops, no new development or inquiry or data and they use it for ideological political, even financial gain. it permeates all elements of our society. the steele dossier was passed off as expertise by an expert and we know that was true because the head of the cia at one time, the head of the fbi james clapper or james comey or john brennan, all of these people came in and assured us and then guess what? it just disappeared him he was not a trader, there was no reality to any of the charges, turned out that christopher steele indirectly through firewalls working with hillary clinton, they had lied under oath of congress, robert mueller who based all of his information couldn't even remember it existed, 250 times under oath to congress that he

couldn't remember much about it and so then we moved on to talking about the wuhan virus but only an idiot told us there is a connection between a level four biology lab with associations with the chinese military and conducting gain of function meet research a mile or two away from the suppose it origins by a bat or a pangolin of the virus and anyone who suggests that didn't know anything about viral sequence and yet that is probably a much more likely scenario. dr. fauci, no need to go there but he is told us masks are essential, not essential, when mask is okay, two is better. herd immunity is 60, 70, 80, 90% and he reverted to the noble platonic act that i lied because it was for your own good. then those weird 1200 medical professionals who said given expertise, the science says if

you're going to protest for blm, you don't have to shelter in place, you don't have to shout social distance, go out and protest and away apparently it was scientific to say no to a religious congregation or a trump rally. so we have this pattern and the funny thing is, there is a personal agenda as there always is in history when somebody at modernity says we have to vaccinate people who have had covid and have antibodies or even children, we wonder it couldn't be that mine people made $20 billion off the vaccinations and their interests or that dr. fauci was engaged pain of funding indirectly enhanced research or when bill gates said follow the research that he has considerable financial interest in china for christopher steele was a good friend of hillary clinton or at least wanted to be on there was an effort to destroy a presidency and it always is for ideological

and financial reasons. >> tucker: we can't continue without science. i appreciate that. victor davis hanson, good to see you, thank you. one of the many topics that scientists are no longer allowed to discuss openly is why so many young children are trying to change their biological sex. one of the very few people who has not gone along and has done her best to study the data, looked at it clearly. next he tells us what she's found.

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>> tucker: we are living in a moment where almost nobody can tell the truth in public and yet occasionally, you see glimpses of true things. it the last place we expected to see the truth was on "60 minutes" with "cbs news" but recently we did to their great credit. they did an honest look at how many physicians are treating gender dysphoria. here's part of what they found. >> just four months after she started testosterone, she says she was approved for a mastectomy, what's called top surgery that she told us was traumatic. >> i started to have a really disturbing the sense that a part

of my body was missing, almost a ghost limb feeling, like there's something that should be there in the feeling really surprised me but it was really hard to deny. >> so she d transitioned by going off testosterone and then went back to the clinic and says complained to the doctor that the process didn't follow the guidelines. >> i can't believe i transitioned into three transits into including hormones and surgery in the course of less than one year, it's completely crazy. >> tucker: how can that be allowed in a functional medical system? one dr. explained why. >> do you have conversations with your colleagues about this whole area of accepting what young people are saying to readily? >> everyone is very scared to speak up because we're afraid of not being seen as being affirming or supportive of these

young people are doing something to hurt the trans community but even some of the providers are trance themselves and share these concerns. >> tucker: no one american journalism has reported more bravely, irreversible damage and we are happy to have her join us tonight, thank you so much for coming on. every time you read the 60 minutes piece last sunday, i have the same thought which is where of where the responsible physicians, i know they exist were standing by silently as this is going on. you have any idea? >> evidence-based gender medicine is performed as recently as a consortium of doctors from across the west were very concerned and oppose affirmative care but the problem is much worse than what they said, the reason is because doctors in america are afraid of losing their license, nearly

every medical accrediting organization has adopted affirmative care which means that the doctors job is to affirm or rubber-stamp the patient's self-diagnosis even if minor when they decide that their problem is gender. so there's a real problem and in the 20 states in america that have conversion therapy because, doctors are absolutely afraid that they could face civil and criminal penalties if they say wait a second, this may not be gender dysphoria and let's explore other options. >> tucker: is there any other procedure a series of procedures to which that applies? if i walk in and say i want chemotherapy and the doctor says i don't detect cancer, the physician can turn me down for that treatment, right? >> this is the only area of medicine where we do this and has turned our doctors into life coaches, it is profoundly unscientific and tells them not to use their medical judgment

and rubber-stamp the patient's wishes. >> tucker: until you just said i didn't know what that medical associations can revoke the license of physicians who don't play along with essentially a political movement? >> we have seen some of the really giants in the field of gender dysphoria have been d platforms are canceled, can sucker most famously who chaired the committee to write the definition of gender dysphoria for the dsm five, the psychiatric manual was fired in canada because activists called him a trans foe. >> tucker: i wonder at what point do we look back on this and a lot of other things we've done in medicine giving heavy-duty drugs to kids who don't need them but do we look back on this and recognize it for the tragedy that it is? how long is it going to take, do you think? >> i don't know, i have a feeling the lawsuits will start coming but because they can

attack me, they can try to discredit the scientists who have done good research into this and have shown affirmative care does not show the mental health benefits at the activists claimed but the one thing they haven't been able to cover up as the d transition nurse, young women regretting that they were pushed through these treatments speaking up all the time, more and more of them. >> tucker: your bravery is a case study of how one person refusing to back down from what is true can make a huge difference and i'm grateful for what you've done. thank you. good to see you. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: going to take a quick break from science for a moment and turned to religion because they are connected. had a really interesting conversation with the catholic bishop on tucker carlson today. he says the core problem with today's society, the reason so many are so unhappy is because people have been told and they believe that they have the power to change nature and they can't.

no one has that power. here's part of the conversation. ♪ ♪ >> catholics talk about original sin, others talk about the sin of adam and eve. they wanted to be like god, they didn't want god to tell them what to do. they wanted to do it their way and that is an active hydrology instead of giving god his due, you give it to someone else or something else and that's called ideology, foundational sin, the most dangerous sin and its lettuce on this path of making ourselves the center of creation. >> tucker: do you notice and a lot of the issues that dominate politics, the desire of people to pretend that they are god >> the gender issues today are the prime example of that where we

think we have the power to become something that we were not created as, that i could become a woman or a woman can become a man, that is something that god -- that's the final rebellion against god, the evolution was rebelling against god and the way that god created human sexuality and now it's gone to the point where we think we should have control over the kind of human beings we are. >> tucker: really interesting and long conversation that you don't have to be catholic to enjoy, someone who spent 80 years thinking about life and what comes after them i really interesting. that's on foxnation.com. so a question relevant to maybe 100 million americans is is it safe to take the coronavirus vaccine if you've already recovered from covid. one of the most basic questions but until now, no one has

bothered to answer it. a few that have vested have been shouted down. tonight we have data and it's a little different from what you've been told and that's next.

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>> welcome to fox news life, senate republicans blocking the creation of a bipartisan panel to investigate the january 6th riot at the u.s. capitol, falling short of the 60 votes needed to consider that measure, would've formed a ten member commission evenly split between the parties by the gunman who killed nine coworkers had a stockpile of guns in his home according to the santa clara county sheriff's office, 22,000 rounds of ammunition at his home that he also set fire to. also suspected molotov cocktails and actor bill cosby denied parole after refusing to take part in a sex offender program, the 83-year-old who refuses to

acknowledge any wrongdoing was sentenced to prison back in 2018. for sexual assault against a woman at temple university. i'm kevin corke in washington. now back to more "tucker carlson tonight." >> tucker: researchers confirmed this week what's been very obvious for more than a year, people of been infected and then recovered from the coronavirus will almost certainly develop antibodies and they will likely last the rest of their lives, therefore they do not need the vaccine. earlier this year we spoke to one physician who realize this a long time ago. >> the most unprecedented thing we are doing is deploying it indiscriminately into folks who have been recently or previously infected and i think we shouldn't underestimate with the effect of a vaccine driven immune response is on the tissues and individuals who have

been previously infected, the footprints of the virus persists in the tissues of the previously infected so it's not a far stretch to imagine that those tissues such as the inner lining of the blood vessel would be targeted by the vaccine immune response and i have not seen any evidence of the fda or cdc taking this seriously, it's a major risk mistake to assume you can put this vaccine into people who have been recently or currently infected and expect that no complications will result. >> tucker: so people who don't need the vaccine are being compelled to get the vaccine. that's not an argument against vaccines, it's an argument against the misuse of medicine. any medicine including vaccines. rand paul is a physician and a u.s. senator from the state of kentucky and has been infected with covid, obviously recovered and has written an op-ed on why so many are denying the science

of natural immunity to covid. we are happy to have him join us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. just clarify as a physician in a sentence or two how people who have recovered from covid should feel about their chances of getting reinfected. to be my people need to understand that the science of vaccines is based on the science of natural infection. what they're trying to do is to simulate and get the same response that you get or better with a natural infection. some diseases like measles when you get them you actually have lifelong immunity. you get vaccinated after couple of decades, natural infection is actually better than the vaccine in some ways for measles. this isn't an argument against being vaccinated, just happens to be if you got the measles, you have lifelong immunity. smallpox was the same way but not an argument for getting smallpox. with covid, we don't know yet but they don't know how long you will be immune.

i can look back at you and say i don't know how long the vaccine will work already talking about a booster. when he comes before the committee and we ask him how many of those were vaccinated or had the disease, he has no earthly idea, not even counting them. even a good scientist will say we should look and see whether those who have already been vaccinated are somehow responding differently, if you've already had the disease and you get a vaccine, you get 1,000 times greater response or maybe that means you're more likely to get symptoms and side effects. i don't think it's been studied thoroughly. in israel, there was a study recently and it showed those who were vaccinated and those who are infected naturally had about the same possibility of being reinfected, pretty small. >> tucker: i'm confused by this. your job is to promote and then disseminate the vaccine and compel people to take it which is what we are doing, they can't go back to school without it so you are forcing this on people,

isn't it your moral obligation to find out with the potential harms are, what population should get it, why are they treating everyone the same and refusing to ask obvious questions. >> there's a huge public health question. in india, they don't have enough vaccines so dr. fauci is advising the world, what should he tell him they are? the people already had it or should they save the vaccine for those who haven't had it? this is a profoundly important question for a country that has a billion people and might have 200 million vaccines. should they wasted on people who have already gotten it? the science says no but he says we are all lemmings, submit, all about uniformity of submission and less about science. >> tucker: these people are scary and i appreciate your asking obvious questions when you're a physician, you still have a right to do that i suppose. senator rand paul good to see

you. what's so interesting is a lot of people in public health private to agree with what senator paul just said. earlier this month, the heads of the fda and cdc as well as tony fauci tony fauci admitted about half of their employees have decided not to get vaccinated. >> what percentage of the employees in your institute, your center, or your agency of your employees has been vaccinated? >> i'm not 100% sure, but i think it's probably more than half, probably around 60%. >> i can't tell you the exact number, but probably in the same range, some people vaccinated at our facility and others outside of the facility. >> we are encouraging our employees to get vaccinated

doing town halls and education seminars, our staff has the option to report their vaccination status but the federal government is not requiring it so we don't know. >> tucker: one of the most remarkable tapes of the past year, so is people who work full-time at the cdc and nih approximately half of them have refused to take the vaccine, why? that would be a good follow-up question forcing kids to get vaccinated, many can't return telling you to give the vaccine to small children too. >> with the vaccine 100% effective for children in a clinical trial, the vaccinations are the best shots experts for a safe return to school to summer camp and for sleepovers. >> trials are still underway for children as young as six months old, dr. fauci believes there will be a vaccine available for nearly all children.

>> a vaccine in the works were children as young as six months old, what should we think of this? with the yale school of public health, thank you so much for coming on. what do you think of that? children getting the vaccine. >> the first problem we have is we have dumbed down the discussion of everything so we are at the level now of vaccine good, covid bad hand other facts relating to that are inopportune. get the illness perfectly well almost entirely and for children who have obesity, diabetes, chronic illnesses that put them at high risk of bad outcomes from covid, they are the ones who might consider being vaccinated but for almost everybody otherwise, it doesn't make sense because their risks are negligible. the cdc has addressed this with

its data, seems in approximately 470,000 americans who have died from covid, that includes approximately 400 children who have died either with or from covid. that's not zero, but it's a very small number and comparable to children who have died from influenza and past flu seasons so there is no real reason why children need to be vaccinated because they get immune from just their own interactions and they don't have to transmit it to other children, mostly children get it from adults from their parents and so on. >> tucker: the whole reason we have scientist to make defined distinctions such as the ones you just explained, why aren't the heads of our public health institutions saying exactly what you just said? >> it's difficult for me to speak about why they think what they think. we are in a vaccine mania or a vaccine fanaticism stage and i think if the goals are to show

proclaiming your goodness by vaccinating everybody, you're looking to jab everybody. your goals are to solve a public health issue, then it's a trade-off and you balance the risk and benefits as best you can. >> tucker: i don't know how you kept your head in the middle of this mania has you just describe it, so grateful that you have. thank you so much. >> pleasure. >> tucker: too many stories to cover and outlets willing to cover them but appointing completely unqualified people to scientific and engineering posts. what effect will that have on the country? you can imagine not good. we are happy to have her join us next.

>> tucker: in the name of equity, joe biden has appointed a lot of completely unqualified people to key science and engineering posts. what effects would have on the country's competitiveness? has investigated the implications of this for a new piece, we are happy to have her become a fellow from the manhattan institute, thank you so much for coming on. there is so much going on right now but it's nice to talk to someone who has a handle on the details, give us examples of what's happening while the rest of us go about our lives. >> let's look at biden's nominee to run the office of science and the department of energy, the largest funder of basic scientific research in the

country, $7 billion agency oversees x-rays, fundamental particle research, physics research, nuclear fusion, who was the nominee for this program, for this office of science? a soil geologist with no background in physics who has never run a large organization, much less a large scientific bureaucratic organization. what are her qualifications? she is black and female. known for her promotion of diversity in her lab, she writes articles like a critical feminist perspective on workplace climates, here is a translation key. diversity is code for the race preferences. given the vast academic skills gap, you can have diversity or you can have meritocracy. you cannot have both.

china is opting for meritocracy, this is suicide for our culture and for our scientific knowledge. >> tucker: at the same time, maybe we stop talking about it but we were talking about stem and the idea that we needed to educate our kids more vigorously in the sciences if we hope to be competitive in the 21st century fill in the cliches if you will but there is some truth in that, we need to be confident in this stuff. have we given up on that completely? >> we have given up on cultivating our top talent with the resources we have now trying to engineer, socially engineer a diverse graduate class of scientists based on x and race which are total irrelevancies to science. we should be finding the best possible minds regardless of what their gonads and melon and are giving them all the training

that is not what's going on. every single science department in this country and academia is obsessed with the race and gender. they don't care about scientific qualifications, they are screening people allowed based on the quality of their diversity, equity, and inclusion statements which are fig leaves for being diverse and equitable themselves, this is not how we have advanced beyond the stone age. we did so by evaluating knowledge and brilliance and we are turning our backs on those capacities now. >> tucker: lets national suicide, what you just described, hope it ends soon, great to see you tonight, thank you. few areas of science are as dishonest and open to manipulation has the study of climate change, of course unknowable despite what they like to you. some people devote their life to

environmentalism saving the actual earth, air, and water and they think science is taken a wrong term and are speaking out, that's next.

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earth by rising sea levels of the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. 21 years ago. then in 2004, "the guardian" newspaper in great britain warned us that "britain will be siberian in less than 20 years thanks to climate change." now, sandy cortez of queens says we have only ten to 12 years to live. how much of this is true? and of the basis of science is admitting what you don't know, why are so many pretending to know what they don't. recently spoke to a former energy official who spent his life working on climate change studying it. here's what he said. >> even though it's warmed by about 2 degrees fahrenheit over the past century, the incidence of heat waves across the 48 states is no greater now than it was in 1900 and the highest temperatures haven't gone up in 60 years. we have been able to find no

detectable influence on hurricanes from humans. emma models that we used to predict future climates have become more uncertain even as they've become more sophisticated. so all of these things suggested that people who say they face certain doom unless they face drastic action are just misinformed about what the official reports actually say. >> tucker: the author of apocalypse never, why environmental alarmism hurts us all. the question that occurs to me is considering we have and we know for a fact have throughout the last several million years massive climate cycles, ice ages, warming periods, they shape the landscape around us, why does no one in the climate community ever mention this could potentially be one of those. >> good to be with you again, tucker. i think it's important to

separate some basic facts and science from what's become really speculative science fiction. we know climate change is real, we know we are contributing to it, it is a heat trapping molecule but the claims that are being made are really getting out of control. the more desperate the democrats climate and energy agenda in washington gets, the more exaggerated the claims are made. we have become much better at dealing with heat waves, much better at dealing with floods, seeing no increase in droughts, no increase in hurricanes and in fact, the most available will become less frequent, 25% less frequent even as they make it 5% more intense but mostly it's great news when it comes to climate change in the environment. >> tucker: so why doesn't anyone say that or why doesn't anyone more precisely say there are some things we can't really know, it's very hard to measure globally as everyone knows so

why doesn't anyone ever acknowledge the limits of human understanding on this one topic? >> part of the reason is when you do when you write books like mine, you end up getting character assassinated, it's incredible the way they go after you so there's a lot of reasons why people don't explain that. what you find is you read the summaries of the reports from climate change, they do a pretty good job of describing the uncertainties. we know they lead to temperatures rising between two important 45 degrees centigrade, we just don't know what the impacts of greater warming will be in a lot of cases and in some cases, could be the opposite of what's been predicted and we saw with the early predictions of more rain, no less rain and part of that is just the function of good science, when it gets translated by alarmist politicians and journalists and

alarmist scientists. >> tucker: what you just said sounds like science and i wish we had more of it. great to see you tonight, thank you. that's it for rest tonight. we back monday, have a great weekend with the ones you love, see you soon. ♪ ♪ >> welcome to the special edition of hannity. i am dan bongino in tonight for sean. joe biden and the extreme democrats are failing at the border, feeling abroad, and failing to deliver for working-class americans all across this great country and the worst part is they are doubling down in this reckless radical irresponsible socialist agenda every single chance they get. for example, joe biden's unveiling