tbeat, and seizure can occur. diarrhea commonly occurs. drink plenty of fluids. tell your doctor if you have signs of bleeding, infection, heart problems, persistent diarrhea or any other side effects. i am living with cll and living proof that imbruvica is right for me. ask your doctor if it's right for you. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. the current revolution will end, all revolutions do end. when ours does, will make all my quick w up one morning and in a country we don't have to lie all the time and where masks aren't allowed or we can discuss the profound inherent differenceses between men and women without being fired for it. that day is coming to the

question is when it does come, what will be left of ourt society. we don't have the answer in detail but here's what we are hoping for. we hope that reason remains, reason, logic, the ability to think clearly and rationally. that's the one thing we can't lose. we are going to need to rebuild. that's why of all the moral atrocities being committed inn the moment at the name of an equity and inclusion, it's a relentless attack on science that should command our special attention. going to consider those attacks in some detail and going to start with america's response to the covidd pandemic. when the covid virus arrived on our shores last winter, they thought they could trust the people in charge. if you imagine that our leaders would leverage a public health emergency for their own political gain. that seemed like the one line that politicians wouldn't cross. and yet almost immediately, they crossed it. around the country, democratic

governors rewarded their allies and punish their opponents. a motion stayed open but the police close churches. demonstrations against the lockdowns were banned. riots against donald trump weres encouraged. watche the governor of michigan for example shamelessly explain the difference. >> it is probably not going to be safe to congregate in masses for quite a while. and it's heartbreaking. we know that michigan is not alone in this moment. but this is what's happening all across the country, these big gatherings can't safely happen right now. the death of george floyd once again shined a light on the systematic cycle of injustice in our country. to the overwhelming majority who have taken to the streets and protested peacefully, protesting

historic inequities, michiganders and those across the country they are facing, i hear you, feel you, see you, and support your actions. be one you are no longer allowel to support your constitutional right of assembly unless it is publicly support the democratic party. just the governor of michigan. gavin newsom did the same thing in california, philme murphy did it in new jersey. partisan part of partisan politics. it was a endorsed by actual scientists, that's the part that should worry you. doctors at john hopkins university told us thattu structural racism was a big ole health threat than the coronavirus. go ahead and loot macy's, it's an important part of public health. for those who believe american science was on the level, this was aa shocking moment. when do the people who are paid to be rational become corrupt

religious zealots, when did our scientists become ayatollahs? it happened years ago. february of 2019, a piece was published in journal of neurology if you don't read it, one of the preeminent peer-reviewed journals in all ok medicine. it described a physician's experience with a man from the deep south called reggie. reggie suffering from a severe neuromuscular disorder which left him blind. modern science might've helped the reggie, this was the point of the piece, but he didn't want the help. reggie believed he was blind because he had been cursed by a voodoo spell. that's what he told his positions but he refused treatment and left the doctor's office for good. the doctor who wrote this piece about reggie was a man called william campbell. campbell believed in western science. he did not believe that voodoo is the cause of blindness.se the piece he wrote was designed to help other physicians can medicate with patients like reggie so those patients could receive effective medical

treatment. unfortunately, american medical journals are no longer allowed to criticize witchcraft. so the editor of "neurology," a man named robert rose, began a purge. to further a tone, he hired what he described as a deputy editor for equity diversity and inclusion. then robert grows if this wasn't enough, wrote a groveling apology letter for the peas calling campbell's article racist and causing him anguish but nowhere in the letter to robert gross explain any of y this. why is it racist to prefer western medicines witchcraft. isn't that the whole point of the system? he declared it racist and moved on. that's how the official policy of his country's top neurology journal, witchcraft is the same as i western medicine, and how dare you say otherwise. where does this leave you if you

are nervous about brain surgery before, this is not comforting news. how long before your doctor second faces a chicken in the operating room? that's a serious question. we cannot say that sciences not better than voodoo. that's racist. something happened in the world economic research. one of the top business journals in the world deleted a paper from the internet without any explanation. the key thing to know is that all the numbers in that paper were accurate, the data were right. no one claimed otherwise. the piece went through peer review. it was published. the piece was published because it was called of this. "examining investor reactions to appointments of black top management executives and ceos." we might the original piece is gone. it's been replaced by a heavily revised version.

what's the truth? we can't know. this is the definition of corruption, but it has spread through science. take a look at the jobs posting at "nature" magazine. once the foremost science publication on the planet. what "nature" is looking for now has nothing whatsoever with science. it's antiscience. here is one recent job posting that posted on twitter. "as part of our commitment to foster diversity and inclusion, we are looking for a black candidate with aca passion for science to medication based in the u.k. for a full time paid." the thing that jumps out is no whites, asians, hispanics aren't allowed. is that legal? of course is not legal. that's not really the point. the bigger problem, it is bigger than civil rights law, is that the people we trust to make the most important decisions in our society, the essential decisions, what kind of medical research to be fun, who gets treatment, who doesn't, who

lives and who dies of the people who make those decisions are no longer rational. they have lost the ability to think empirically. equity is now their guide. they no longer believe in science. that's a real problem for this civilization. victor davis hanson has watched the rise and fall of civilizations through the perspective of a historian. a senior fellow at the hoover h institution. happy to join us now.s thanks so much for coming on. what does it portend for the future that science has been so completely corrupted that it is dictated by political demands rather than by observable facts? >> i think we are watching the legacy of the people who put galileo in jail. remember, they said that the earth was the center of the universe, there ishe a pattern here that we have these

bicoastal elites with letters after their names and they say, right here science stops, no new development, no new inquiry, no new data, they use it for ideological, political, or financial gain. it permeates all elements, the steele dossier or was passed off by expertise by an expert in british intelligence and we know that is true because the head of the t cia at one time, the headf the fbi, james clapper, james comey, john brennan, all of these people came in and they assured us, guess what, it's appeared, he was not a traitor, trump, no reality to any of the charges. turned out that christopher steele had firewalls directly to hillary clinton, had lied under oath to congress, robert mueller who based all the invigoration on the dossier couldn't remember that at existed. james comey, 250 times under

oath to congress that he couldn't remember much about it. only t an idiot science told us would think that there is a connection between a level four virology lab with associations with the chinese military and conducting research a mile or two go away from the supported origins by a bat, maybe it's a pangolin, of the virus. anyone who suggests that they didn't know anything about viral sequencing, yet that's probably a much more likely scenario. dr. fauci, no need to go there, but he told as masks are essential, they are not essential. one mask is okay -- no, two is better. he said to herd immunity in 90%. every time he was called to me he reverted to a platonic noble "i lied because it was for your own good." remember those weird 1200 medical professionals who said, given our expertise we think the science says if you are going to protest for blm to come up you

don't have to shelter in place. you don't eveno have to social distance. go out and protest. apparently it was scientific to say no to a religious congregation or a trump rally. and so, we have this pattern and the funny thing is, tucker, there is a personal agenda. there's always been one in history when someone at madera not says we have to vaccinate people who have had covid and have had antibodies or even children, we wonder, well, it couldn't be that nine people made $20 billion off the vaccination. it's in their interest. or dr. fauci was engaged in funding indirectly enhance research at wuhan, or bill gates had followed the research that he has in several financial interest in china. or christopher steele was a good friend of hillary clinton, or wanted to be, there was an effort to destroy presidency. that's how science has

perverted, always has for ideological and financial reasons. >> tucker: without it, we can continue in an advanced society without science. i appreciate that overview. victor davis hanson, great to see you. thank you. one of the many topics that scientists are no longer allowed to discuss openly is why so many young children are trying to change their biological sex. abigail schreier one of the very few people who has not gone along with the mandate and done her best to study the data, look at it clearly. next she tells us what she's found.

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>> tucker: we are living in in a moment where almost nobody can tell the truth in public and occasionally you see glimpses of true things. the last place we expected to see the truth was on "60 minutes" with "cbs news" but recently we did to their great credit. they did an honest look at how many physicians are treating gender dysphoria. here's part of what they found. >> just four months after she started testosterone, she says she was approved for a mastectomy, what's called top surgery, that she told us was traumatic. >> i started to have a really

disturbing since that part of my body was missing. almost a ghost limb feeling. that there is something that should be there and the feeling surprised me but it was really hard to deny. vehicle and so gg transitioned by going off testosterone and went back to the clinic and complained to the doctor that the process didn't follow the w path guidelines. >> i can't believe i transitioned and did transitioned including hormones and surgery in the course of less than one year. eit's completely crazy. >> tucker: how can that be allowed in a functioning medical system? one dr. explained why. >> did you have conversations with your colleagues about this whole area of accepting what young people are saying to readily? >> yes. everyone is very scared to speak out because we are afraid of not being seen as affirming orr

supporters of these young people or doing something to hurt the trans community. but some of the providers are trends themselves share these concerns. >> tucker: nobody in american journalism has reported more deeply on the subject or more bravely than abigail shrier. the author of "irreversible damage" and happy to have her tonight. so every time i read one of your pieces, your books, in the "safety minutes" piece last sunday, i had the samehe though: where are the responsible physicians who are standing by silently as this is going on. do you have any idea? >> yes. they are trying to start to speak up. the society for evidence-based gender-based medicine, recently it's a consortium of doctors from across the west who are very concerned and opposed affirmative care.e. but the problem is the problem is much worse than the doctor on the "60 minutes" said. doctors in america are afraid of losingau their license.

nearly every medical accrediting organization has adopted affirmative care which means that the doctor's job is to our firm or ribose stamp rubber-stamp when theydecide th. there's a real problem and in the 20 states in america that have conversion therapy laws, doctors are absolutely afraid that they can face civil and criminal penalties when they say, wait a second, this might not beot gender dysphoria. >> tucker: this is shocking for any other procedure or procedures which applies. if i walk in and say i want chemotherapy and the physician says, i don't detect cancer. "i want it anyway," the physician can turn me down for that treatment? >> absolutely. this is the only area of medicine we can do this. it's profoundly unscientific, tells them not to use their medical judgment, and instead rubber-stamp the patient's

wishes. >> tucker: where where the rest of us when this happened? i didn't know that. that they can revoke the license of physicians of those who don't play alone essentially a political movement? >> we've seen one of the giants in the field of gender dysphoria have been the a platform to or canceled to write the definition of gender dysphoria for the dsm-v, the psychiatric manual, he was fired in canada. because actavis called him a trans activists called him a transphone transphobe. >> tucker: do we recognize it for the tragedy that it is? how long do you think it's going to take? >> i have a feeling the lawsuits will start coming. but because they can attack me,

they can try to discredit the scientists who have done good research into this and have shown affirmative care, does not show the mental health benefits the actavis claim, but the one thing they have not been able to cover up is that the transitioners. d transition >> tucker: your bravery is a case study about one person refusing to back down for what is true can make aan huge disk down like difference i'm grateful. apical schreier, great to see you. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: we'll take a quick break from science for a moment and turned to religion because on some level they are connected. we had an interesting conversation with the catholic bishop on "tucker carlson today." the core problem with today's society is people have been told and they believe that they have the power to change nature.

and they can't. no one has that power. here's part of the conversation. >> catholics talk aboutth original sin, the talk about the sin of adam and eve. they didn't want god to tell them what to do. they wanted to do it theirir wan and we consider that in the of idolatry. you give to someone else or something else what belongs to god, that's called idolatry. it's a foundational sin. it's brought us down this path of making us the center of creation. >> tucker: do you notice most of the issues that dominate political that they are god? >> the gender issue is quite an examples of that. that we are not satisfied with

the body we are born with, we think we have the power to be somebody that we were not created as beer that i can become a woman, or a woman can become a man. that something from god, not something we do. that's the final rule rebellion against god. the revolution was a rebellion against god, the way god made our bodies in the way god created human sexuality but it's come to the point that we think we should have control over the kind of human beings we are. >> tucker: really interesting and long conversation that you don't have to be catholic to enjoy. this is someone who has spent years thinking about life and what comes after. really interesting. that's on foxnation.com. so a question relevant to i don't know, 100 million americans, is is it safe to take the corona vaccine if you've already recovered from covid? one of the most basic questions

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>> welcomed to a fox news live, i'm jackie bonnie is in. americans are traveling. in numbers not seen since the pandemic. 37 million people will travel 5, a 50% increase over the 23 million who hit the road last year and anyone applying, covert more than half of u.s. adults are now fully vaccinated. meanwhile at historic day, u.s. naval academy, vice president kamala harris delivering the

keynote address. she is the first woman to have that honor in the history of nearly 175-year-old academy. harris telling graduates that the world's fragile following the coronavirus pandemic. i am jackie ibanez. >> tucker: researchers confirm nfthis week what's been very obvious for more than a year. people who have been infected and then recovered from the coronavirus will likely almostlm certainly develop antibodies and those antibodies will likely last the rest of their lives for they are immune. therefore they do not need the vaccine. earlier this year we spoke to one physician who realized this n a long time ago. >> the most unprecedented thing with this vaccine campaign is we are employing it indiscriminately to folks who have been previously or recently infected and we shouldn't underestimate what the effect of a vaccine immune response is on

tissues in individuals who have been previously infected. literally the antigenic footprint of the virus persists in the tissues of the previously infected so it's not a far stretch to imagine that those tissues such as the inner lining of the blood vessel would be targeted by the vaccine immune response. i have not seen anyne evidence frankly of the fda or cdc taking this seriously. i think it's a major mistake to assume that you can put this vaccine into people who have been recentlyci or currently infected and expect that no complications will result. >> tucker: so people who don't need the vaccine are being compelled to get the vaccine. that's not an argument against vaccines come it's an argument against the misuse of medicine. any medicine. including vaccine. rand paul is a physician and also a u.s. senator from the state of kentucky had been infected with covid,th recovere. written in an op-ed why so many are denying the science of

natural immunities in covid. senator, thanks so much for coming on. we clarify that as a physician in a sentence oratorical, how people who have recovered from covid, the tens of millions who have, should feel about their chances of getting reinfected. >> people need to understand that vaccines are based on the signs of natural infection. what they are trying to do with the vaccine is to simulate the same response you get or better with a natural infection. some the will make diseases like measles you get long lifelong immunity. if you getna vaccinated after a couple of decades, you need a booster. natural infection is better than the vaccine in some ways for measles. this isn't an argument against being vaccinated. it just happens to be that you've got lifelong immunity. smallpox is the same way but it's not an argument for getting smallpox. what they say all the time is that you don't know how long

you'll be immune. i can look back at you and say i don't know how long the vaccine will work. already talking about a booster. whenth dr. fauci comes before a committee and goes, how may people who are vaccinated who already have the disease, no earthly n idea, not even countig them. even a good scientist would say that we should look and seeen those who are already in vaccinated or respond differently. i see one study the if you get the study, and you get the vaccine can you get a thousand times better response. maybe that means you are more likely to get symptoms and side effects. so i don't think it's been studied thoroughly. i do know that in israel, there's been a study recently and it shows that those who were vaccinated and those infected naturally had about the same possibility of being reinfected, pretty small. >> tucker: i'm a little bit confused by this. if your job is to promote and disseminate the vaccine and compel people to take it, you can't go back to school without

it. you are forcing this on people. isn't it your moral obligation to find out what the potential harms are, what populations should get it, who shouldn't. why are they treating everyone the same and refusing to ask obvious questions? >> there's a huge public policy or public health question. in india, they don'tes have enoh vaccines of dr. fauci is advising the world what he wants to do what he should tell them there? should they get a vaccine to people who already had it or say the vaccine for those who haven't had it? this is a profoundly important question for a country that has a billion people and might have 200 million vaccines. should they waste a vaccines and people who already got it? the scientists no, but dr. fauci says we are all letting them submit, it's about the uniformity of submission and less about science. >> tucker: these people are scary and i appreciate your asking obvious questions. and thankful you are a physician. you still have a right to do that. good to see you.

what's so interesting is that a lot of people in public health seem in private to agree with what senator paul just said. earlier this month, the heads of the fda and cdc as well as tony fauci admitted that about half of their employees have decided not to get vaccinated. >> what percentage of the employees in your institute, your center, or your agency of your employees have been vaccinated? >> you know, i'm not 100% sure, senator, but i think it's probably a little bit more than nhalf, around 60%. >> i can't tell you the exact number but it's probably in the same arrangement some people vaccinated at our facility and others outside of the facility. >> tucker: >> we are encouraging our

employees to get vaccinated. we have our staff action to report their vaccination status. but the federal government is not requiring it so we doo not know. >> tucker: one of the remarkable tapes of the past year. so people who work full-time in public health at the cdc, at the nih, approximately half of them have refused to take the vaccine. by the way, why?ci that it be a good follow-up question. no one asked it, why? at the same moment we are forcing kids to get vaccinated. many can't return. trying to give the vaccine to small children too. >> with the vaccine 100% effective for children in the clinical trials, vaccinations are best shot, say experts, for a safe return to school, the summer cam, and sleepovers. >> dr. belcher believes there will be a vaccine available for nearly all children.

>> tucker: vaccine for as young as six months old. dr. harvey risch is with the yale school of public health. joins us now. thanks for coming on. what do you think of that? children getting the vaccine? >> well, the first thing we have is we dumb down the discussion of everything, with the level now of vaccine good, covid bad. the effects leading to that is just inopportune. the problem is that children get the illness perfectly well, almost entirely, and children who have obesity, diabetes, that put them at high risk of bad outcomes from covid, they are the ones considered to be vaccinated. but for almost everybody, all childrener otherwise, it doesn't make sense because the risks are negligible.

the cdc has addressed this with its data. it seemed that in approximately 470,000 americans who have died from covid, that includes approximately 400 children who've died either with or from covid. that's not zero but it's a very strong number and comparable to children who died from influenza in past flu seasons. so therere is no real reason why children need to be vaccinated because they get immune from just their own interactions and they do not transmit the illness to adults and they hardly even transmitted to other children.os mostly children get it from their parents and so on. >> tucker: the whole reason we have scientist to make the fine distinctions such as the ones you justdi explained. why aren't the heads of our public health institution saying exactly what you just said? >> it difficult for me to speak about why they think what they think.hi i think we are in a vaccine mania or a vaccine fanaticism stage and, you know, i think that if the goals are to show or

proclaim your goodness by vaccinating everybody, then you are looking to jab everybody. if your goals are to solve a public health issue as best you can, it's a trade-off. >> tucker: i don't know how you kept your head in the middle of this mania, as you just described, but i'm so grateful you have. thanks so much. >> pleasure. >> tucker: well, no one is covering the story. too many stories to cover. too few outlets able to cover them, but the biden administration appointing and qualified people to important scientific and engineering posts. what effect willif that have on the country? heather mcdonald studied the details of this issue and we are happy to have her here next.

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>> tucker: in the name of equity, joe biden has appointed a lot of completely unqualified people to key science and engineering posts. what effect will it have on the country's competitiveness? heather mcdonald investigated the implications of this for a new piece. we are happy to have her. thanks so much for coming up. give us -- there's so much going on right now that it's nice to talk to someone who's got a handle on the details as you do. give us an example of what's happening while the rest of us go about our lives. >> let's look at biden's nominee to run the office of science and the department of energy. the largest funder of basic research in the

country. a $7 billion agency. it oversees x-ray, funds particle fundamental research. clean energy. nuclear fusion. who is the nominee for this program for this office of science? a soil geologist with no background in physics who has never run a large bureaucratic organization much less a large scientific your credit organization. what are her qualifications? she is black and female. known for her promotion of diversity in her lab, she writes articles like "a critical thoroughness perspective on jen's forming workplace climate." here's a translationrker k tucker. diversity is code for race and preferences. given the vast academic skills gap, you can have diversity or you can have a meritocracy. you cannot have both.

china and the sciences opting for meritocracy, we are opting for diversity. this is suicide for our culture and our scientific knowledge. >> tucker: at the same time, the t other day we were talking about stem and the idea we needed to educate our kids moree rigorously in the sciences if we hope to be competitive in the 21st century, fill in the cliches as you will. there is truth in that. we need to be competent in this stuff. have we given up on that completely? >> we've given up cultivating our top talent with all the resources that we have. we are now trying to engineer, socially engineer, a diverse graduate class. and race which are total irrelevancies to science. we should be finding the best possible minds regardless of what their gonads and melon and are giving them all the training

that is not what's going on. every single science department in this country and academia is obsessed with the race and qualifications, they are screening people allowed based on the quality of their diversity, equity, and inclusion statements which are fig leaves for being diverse and equitable themselves, this is not how we have advanced beyond the stone age. we did so by evaluating knowledge and brilliance and we we are turning our backs on those capacities now. >> tucker: that's national suicide, what you just described that mike described. great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: few areas of science are as this honest and open to manipulation as the study of climate change unknowable. some devote their life to d

environmentalism saving the actual earth, air, and water. they think science has taken a wrong turn. they are speaking out. that's next.

>> tucker: way back in 1989, 32 years ago, a senior official at the u.n. said, "entire

nations may be wiped off the face of the earth due to rising sea levels of the global warming trend isn't wiped down the conversed in 2000." then in 2004, "the guardian" newspaper in great britain said that britain will be siberia in less than 20 years thanks to climate change. now sandy cortez of queens we only have 10-12 years to live. how much of this is true? the basis of science is admitting what we don't know, why is someone pretending that they don't. former obama administration official who spent his life working on climate change, studying it. here's what he said. >> even the globe has warmed by 2 degrees fahrenheit over the last century, the incidence of heat waves across the 48 statesi is no greater now than it was in 1900. the highest temperatures haven't gone up in 60 years. we have been able to find no

detectable influence on hurricanes from humans. and the models that we used to predict future climates have become more uncertain even as they become more sophisticated. so all of these things suggests that people who say that we would face certain doom unless we take drastic action are just misinformed about what the official reports actually are saying. >> tucker: michael shellenberger is the author "a pop clicks ""apocalypse never" appear the question that comes up to me is considering we have and we know for a fact had throughout the last several millions of years massive climate cycles, ice ages, warming periods. they shape the peaks and valleys around us pairwise no one in the climate community ever mention that this could potentially be one of those? >> good to be with you again,

tucker. it's important to separate some basic fact,o basic science and what's become speculative science fiction but we know climate change is real. we know we are contributing to it. carbon dioxide is a heat trapping molecule. a but the claims being made are really just out of control. the more desperate the democrats a phosphorus climate and energy agenda in washington gets, the more exaggerated the claims it made. we see a huge decline in deaths from natural disasters. we become much better at dealing with heat waves, dealing with floods, we see no increase in droughts. we see no increase in hurricanes. the best available science suggests that hurricanes will actually become less frequent, 25% less frequent even as they make it 5% or more intense. the news is great news when it comes to climate change and the environment.ro >> tucker: why doesn't anyone say that, or why doesn't anyone more precisely say there are things we cannot no, climate is

hard to measure globally as everyone knows but why doesn't anybody ever acknowledge the limits of human understanding on this one topic? >> part of the reason is when you do and you write books like mine, you end up getting character assassinated. it's quite incredible the way to go after you so there's a lot of reasons why people don't explain that. what you find is when you read the scientific reports, you read these summaries of the reports on climate change, they do a good job of an explaining g uncertainty. we know the doubling of co2 can lead to temperatures rising between 2 to 4.5 degrees centigrade but there's a huge amount of uncertainty on other questions. we just do not know what the impact of greater warming will be in a lot of cases and in some cases it can be the opposite of what we predicted.d. you saw with the amazon the early productions would be more rain, now we predict less rain. part of that is the functioning of goodth science. the part of that is when it gets translated by alarmist

politicians, alarmist journalists, and alarmist a scientists. w >> what you said sounds like science to me and i wish we had more of it. thank you. >> tucker: thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: thanks for having me. let's episode out on fox nation. we are back monday. have a great weekend with the ones you love. see you soon. ♪ ♪ >> jason: welcome to the joe biden and the extreme democrats tonight are failing at thee border, failing to deliver for working-class americans all across this great country. the worst part is that they are doubling down on this reckless, radical, ridiculous, irresponsible socialist agenda every single chance they get. for example, joe biden is unveiling a