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of citizens into certain lesser accommodations, treating them like lepers or untouchables. that was immoral and wrong. we were told that and most of us agreed. it was wrong. so imagine the confusion today looking across the country, very same people, literally, the very same who just the other day told us segregation was immoral are now forcing segregation. just this morning the "new york times" informed us unless you can prove that you've taken the injection that the democratic party demands you take you're no longer permitted in bars, comedy clubs, even some dance competitions, in the state of new york. if you're too dirty to appear in public. you're not welcome near normal people. want to watch the nba playoffs in person? you better be vaccinated. otherwise, the new york knicks will bar you from madison square garden. you can still go see a baseball game if you want to but be warned with you'll be sitting in your own rope off section

marinading in your shame with the other disobedient bad people. medical jim crow has come to america. if we had water fountains the unvaccinated would have separate ones. but wait, you ask, is this logical? does this make sense? why would people who have had the vaccine fear being near feed who haven't had the vaccine? trent vax protected? isn't that the point of the shot? sure, maybe from a health perspective that's technically true if you want to be precise but it's not about health or science. it's bigger than that. it's about good and evil. it's about discovering who is a decent person and who by contrast deserves to be punished for sin. it's about finding out who has obeyed and thankfully once again technology is coming to the rescue. watch. >> it's called the immune ban. the first of its kind on the market. it cost $19.99 and it's simple to use.

after buying it you send a copy of your vax card and they will upload it to their encrypted server. all people would have to do is take a picture of the qr on their phone. >> tucker: it's easy. a qr code. you send a copy of your vaccination card to show your papers and then you can participate in the life of your country. in new york the state is doing this by itself. it's issuing something called the excelier pass. it entitles you to all the rights and freedoms you imagined you were born with but turned out to be contingent on if you do exactly what cuomo says to do. officials have assured us the excelier pass is every bit as safe as a state nursing lines -- it's a lock box. your personal health information cannot be hacked by anyone, apart, of course, from hackers, people who actually try to hack it. last month, for example, a man

called albert fox condominium broke into the excelier pass in just 11 minutes. other than that, you're completely fine. more than a million people have downloaded excelier pass so far and that's a victory for public health but it does make you wonder, is this the end or is it the beginning? why should it end here? the coronavirus is transmissible and it can be dangerous, but it's hardly the only illness that fits that description. there are many. so if politicians can segregate potential covid carriers from the rest of the american population, why can't they do the same thing to people with hiv? or tb or hepatitis c? before you laugh off the possibility of that happening, see if you can answer the core question why, wouldn't that happen? at this point there isn't a reason that it wouldn't happen because the precedent has been set. by the way, say goodbye to those hippa protections you thought you had. it used to be illegal to demand people's confidential medical information. not anymore.

what's illegal now is trying to hide it. the fbi is warning of "severe penalties" for anyone who dares to forge a vaccine card, so don't even think about it. we used to spend quite a bit of time worrying about scenarios like the one we're living through right now. back in 2003 a federal judge in washington ruled that the government cannot force an unapproved vaccine on its citizens. at the time the defense department wanted to inoculate soldiers serving in iraq against anthrax. some soldiers didn't want it. dod tried to make them take it and then the judge emmett sullivan stepped in and said, "absent an informed consent or presidential waiver, the united states cannot demand that members of the armed forces serve as guinea pigs for experimental drugs." he was not attacked for that. in fact, at the time, judge sullivan's ruling was seen as a victory. how would it be seen now? it would be denounced as a quinn for q-anon because make no

mistake the only people who have not been vaccinated at this point are trump voters and other dangerous white supremacists, the only ones evil enough to threaten the nation's public health. we've learned that repeatedly on television. here's an example. >> and now the narrative has entirely changed and it's about republicans, mostly men, so white male republicans who don't want to get the shot. >> brian, there is no group in america more likely to say no, i'm not going to get the covid vaccine than white republican men. >> why don't they want it? these white men who by and large were trumpers? >> there is the republican white men who take pride in it about refusing this vaccine. it's also dangerous. we know that the vaccine hesitancy rates are rising amongst white republican men. there is actually very little vaccine hesitancy between african-americans and the latino communities.

>> tucker: you're not surprised. it's always the same people, isn't knit those white republican men. the very ones that just today, joe biden warned us, are more dangerous than isis. these are the people who have been beating up elderly asian women in our cities. you've seen that plague unfold. these are the ones who don't believe in science. who have no decency. just the other way, they have found ways -- >> we're engaged with nascar and country music tv, we're looking for a range of creative ways to get directly connected to white conservative communities. [laughter] >> tucker: it's the white men again. but not just any white men. it's the ones who like country music and nascar. not the ones who go to aspen. the white republican men are dangerous, and they can sit at the back of the bus. in fact, they can walk. they shouldn't even be allowed in public buildings. that's a story you keep hearing. you just heard it in clear terms.

no group in america is more likely to turn down the vaccine than "white republican men." we've heard that so many times, that just the other day we decided to check the number because not all the numbers you hear even from the podium at the white house are true. so here there the real numbers as collected by the u.s. government. look at that. it turns out, we know you're shocked, they are lying again. in fact, what they are saying is the opposite of the truth. as of two weeks ago, 50% of asian americans had been vaccinated against covid. that number among white americans was about 40%. among african-american americans, it was 27%, among hispanics, it was 29%. so this has implications. if we're going to make the quote "unvaccinated" sit in their own section of mlb games, that's going to make for some pretty embarrassing photographs sometime soon because it seems like the new segregation looks a

lot like the old segregation and we wonder how they will explain that can't wait to hear it. in the meantime we're happy to be joined for an assessment of all of this by our friend candace owen. it's great to see you. i'm sorry to laugh, it's a serious subject, i think there are all kinds of important implications for civil liberties going forward as noted but once you check their numbers on almost any claim it turns out not simply to be off by a standard deviation but it's like the inverse of the reality every time. >> you're exactly right. i'm so glad you're talkingen -- about medical segregation. you think, i don't understand how people living during the time of jim crow allowed these atrocities to take place based on the color of people's skin. we're living in those times right now and people don't recognize that. we're living right now in a time

where you have an entire group of people that are telling you discrimination is okay. by the way, it's always the same characters that force discrimination. it's always the government that says it's okay. it's always the media that says it's okay. the media is making fun saying this is fine. this is an acceptable kind of discrimination. it was the same during the era of jim crow. most people don't know this, back in the day when the "new york times" was printing articles about the kkk, they talked about the friendly ku klux klan met at this event. they made it seem as though there was something wrong with black americans. they were dumber, dirtier, they deserved this treatment. this is exactly what they are doing. they are reintroducing the same type of propaganda to convince people that this form of discrimination is actually okay. you need this. it's for your safety. it's always for your safety. and they do this across many other societies. they have done this always, and right now the democrats are at the helm.

jen psaki and jim biden, doing this under the guise of medical safety. too tight has nothing to do with medical safety because people who have been vaccinated by their own logic, safe. they have been vaccinated. a hundred million americans or thereabouts have recovered from the virus and have active antibodies. they are not carriers. they are not going to get it themselves, so if you're going by the science, i mean, none of these laws or regulations would even occur to you. >> yes. that's exactly right but also don't forget, tucker that science is always convenient. the government always uses science like a tool. during the progressive era it was science that taught you that black americans were dumber than white americans. it was scientific. they had proven it scientifically that black americans were dumber and therefore they didn't want blacks and whites -- they manipulated society when they wanted to discriminate a certain group of people. right now they are bent on

discriminating against trump supporters, discriminating against conservatives, even with lies, you are correct to assess that black people are extremely hesitant about the vaccine for good reason. the government has lied to the black people a lot in the past so they aren't trusting the government. they aren't trusting the science that seems to change every couple of days depending on what dr. fauci is feeling like in the morning. >> tucker: why does no one say that? i mean, if 27% of african-americans have been vaccinated, which is saying 73% haven't, if half of the cdc employees haven't been vaccinated, if you wanted to vaccinate the whole population you would make the pitch, you wouldn't use it to demonize your political enemies. this has nothing to do with politics, does it? the point is to divide? >> exactly right. nothing to do with politics and everything to do with politics. in the very beginning covid-19 has been used as a political tool by the left to go after their enemies, to radically introduce change in this

opinion, in my opinion, to create a totalitarian system of full and utter government control under joe biden and the democrats. we've seen this over and over again, trying to change election laws. there are so many things we could talk about here but what we're talking about today is dangerous. we're talking about segregation. so people need to get on-board and realize we're living in that time right now. stand up right now and say, i don't care how i feel about my neighbor. this is wrong. there should not be segregated exceptions for people at any sporting events or anywhere else in this country. >> tucker: that's right. show us your blood test. and lots of people, plenty of people i know have been vaccinated, and if you're asked what's your vaccine status, i think the appropriate response is up yours, i'm principled, don't answer that question, why would you. candace owens, great to see you, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so every time you dig into the numbers you learn something really surprising. and so it's worth looking at the actual numbers. not the lies they are telling you. here's a number worth looking

at. who is getting rich from the vaccines? we have some new information on that tonight. trace gallagher has the story for us. hi, trace. >> the math here is pretty basic. pharmaceutical companies like moderna and biontech have seen their stocks explode. one, they belief their vaccine profits will be enormous, and two, the companies have monopoly control over vaccine production so the profit streams will continue to with enormous. as a result, the vaccines have minted nine brand-new billionaires and five of them are associated with moderna including ceo stephon and the chairman. three other moderna early investors are also now billionaires. biontech's ceo and co-founder is also on the list, along with three founders of the chinese vaccine company. and on top of the nine new billionaires, the vaccines gave eight existing billionaires an

additional $32 million to mess around it. all told the new and old billionaires took in about $51 billion. the people's vaccine alliance says that's enough to vaccinate everyone in india as well as an additional 800 million people in low income countries that have so far gotten a very small share of the vaccine supply. critics also point out the vaccines were largely financed by taxpayer money and say the companies should end monopolies to help boost production. the german company biontech says it took a risk by spending billions in private money and deserves to be rewarded. tucker? >> tucker: trace gallagher. thanks so much for that. meanwhile, the entire american news media, nbc news, cnn, have become pitch men for the pharma companies. have you noticed that? pretty amazing. the state of new york has announced a criminal investigation into the former president and the trump

organization that he ran. donald trump jr. is here to give us the very latest on that and to respond to those charges, plus it's now fashionable to claim there are no differences between men and women. it's just exactly the same. just clay in our hands. we're god. ron desantis has just signed a law defending biological reality, nature itself. the governor of florida joins us straight ahead. governor of flos us. ♪ ♪

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very often. yet, as soon as she was elected attorney general of new york, latisha james promised she would investigate the trump organization. at the time she didn't identify a crime that she alleged they committed. she went for it anyway. now she's confirmed she's started a criminal probe into the former president's business deals and she's still not yet identified a crime. donald trump jr. is the vancouver vice president of the trump organization. he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. what is this investigation about, do you think? >> i think everyone has been trying to figure that out for five years. i think it's a political persecution and i know that because she literally campaigned on it. she was going to investigate the crimes. the problem is, it wasn't as they she was part of the office. she had no idea but in new york it's okay to try to persecute your political enemies to try to target them to try to hurt them and they have been doing that for over five years. so five years, no actual crime, they are in search of a crime.

they have been trying to investigate to create a crime because that's what you're doing in new york. again, shouldn't surprise us anymore, but if this was going on in the banana republic we would be outraged. when it's going on in one of the large of the states in america everyone seems to be silent on it. there is plenty of video throughout for people to see. it was a campaign promised based on no information, based on no actual knowledge. just that you can do that in new york because it's a democratically controlled state. there is nowhere you can go. there is no one you can appeal to because you will end up with another leftist judge making the decision and they are just fine going after their political enemies as well. >> tucker: so you don't like a politician, he leaves office, and then you hamstring him, threaten him with prison, force him to rack up millions in legal bills, is there a precedent for this? have we done this to former presidents that you're aware of at any time in american history? >> you know, i'm not. that doesn't surprise me.

i think donald trump, the trump derangement syndrome has brought out the worst in the other side but it is unprecedented. it's going on in america today. i think what people have to understand, if you can go after a former president, target them for years, imagine what they could do to the regular person. we've seen the corruption at the highest levels of the fbi over the last few years. you've seen them target anyone who was anywhere remotely near the east coast on january 6 is being targeted but people who have burned down buildings, who have taken over buildings, who have looted, committed arson, committed murder for the 12 months prior, total pass. they aren't interested. this is what's going on. the entire system has been corrupted and what's worse is, that there is no way to appeal it. there is no way to stop the nonsense. in new york, crime is going through the roof. taxes are going to go through the roof. property values are going down. murder rates are skyrocketing, and yet, rather than using

taxpayer dollars to actually go and solve those issues, to prevent the degeneration of new york even further, they are going to continue to spend those taxpayer dollars targeting their enemies and that's pretty disgusting and i think taxpayers should be aware of that i've seen what happened in new york city. i left for a reason. it's not a good scenario, and when i know a lot of the guys that are big taxpayers in the city, moving to places like i did for florida, for a much better standard of living, for a lot less taxes, for a lot less nonsense, the new york taxpayer has to be asking the question, why are you wasting my taxpayer dollars on this rather than, again, solving the uncontrolled homicides that's going on, the devaluation of real estate, et cetera, et cetera. >> tucker: people want the rule of law and when the chief law enforcement officer promises to prosecute a crime she can't describe then you realize this is not a system based on law. it's a system based on political grudges.

>> a hundred percent and that's part of the problem, tucker. even if they don't get anything they get to you spend millions of dollars, and that's a win in itself and it tens of millions of dollars. >> tucker: you have no choice. appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so in one of the biggest cities in the country, we've just learned the police are no longer allowed to chase criminals. what are the implications of that policy? james craig ran the police department in detroit and ran it well for a long time. he just stepped down and he joins us next for his first interview since leaving office. he joins us next for his first interview since leaving

>> tucker: about two months ago on march 29, at about 2:00 a.m. on chicago's west side residents reported hearing a series of gunshots. they called the police and the police came. when they got there body cam footage showed later a 13-year-old boy started running. shortly after he pulled out a

gun and started to toss it hyped a fence. in that instance the pursuing officer fired one shot and killed adam. so it was a tragedy, of course, but at that moment, his death, raised a lot of important questions. for example, why is a boy barely a teenager out in the middle of the night on a city street with a handgun? where are his parents? but no one in charge of the city of chicago seemed interested in any way in exploring that or any related question? how do you get a society like that? instead they decided on a new policy, a quick fix. they banned the police from chasing people like adam toledo. that will fix it. the chicago police department announced it in a tweet last week. there will be prohibitions to foot pursuits. chicago police will not pursue for an offense less than a class a misdemeanor. what does that mean? what crimes qualify as less than a class a misdemeanor. it turns out a lot of crimes. you can flee from the police, no

problem, at most, that's disorderly conduct. a less serious class b misdemeanor. you can steal a woman's purse or mug a woman, if there is less than $400 you can't be pursued. you can trespass on private property, commit a assault, duke a lot of things to degrade and destroy society and there is nothing the police can do to you if run away. it's a huge change. and it's going to change chicago profoundly. so how did local media cover knit -- it? they lied about it. the associated press said exactly the same thing. "the new policy prohibits foot pursuits for minor traffic violations." but again that's a lie. this policy has nothing to do with minor traffic violations. it's a whole category of crimes some of which are serious and it

protects the people who commit them and that's why officials in the city of chicago established a lot of other restrictions on foot pursuits last week. too many obstacles in the way. no foot chase allowed. does the suspect have a broken arm? you can't chase him. and on it goes. by the way, if police officers violate any part of this policy, they can be fired. but if police decide not to chase criminal suspects, no one says a word. so you think there will ever be a foot pursuit again? no. of course not, and that's the point. if there are no foot chases there is no body camera footage and there is no controversy. just more crime. and if there is no footage from body cam, that means people who don't live in chicago won't know the condition of the city, which is grave. they won't know that 13-year-old boys are out carrying guns in the middle of the night. since chicago leaders haven't solved the problem, but they have succeeded in burying the problem. they just hope you don't notice. they are city officials in other cities who have been honest

about crime and what it takes to stop it. james craig is one of them. he was the long time chief of police in detroit and he's reportedly at this point considering a run for the governor of michigan. this is his first interview since he left the police department. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, tucker, for having me on the show. >> tucker: we're honored as always. if a woman is mugged, and she's got less than $400 in her purse, police can't chase the mugger. what do you think that will do to chicago or any city with that policy? >> it's ridiculous, tucker. it's absolutely ridiculous, it's absurd. i've been in this business 44 years. i can't tell you how many individuals i've chased on foot to stop a violent crime, and now they want to micromanage when you can chase? it's absurd. and we're now moving into an area to protect the criminal.

what we never talk about, tucker, what about the victims? what about the people that live in vulnerable communities who happen to be mostly persons of color. it's shameful. it's shameful, and i've got to tell you, if you're in detroit they want us to do our job. >> tucker: so that was my next question. what do you think people who live in neighborhoods, where there is a fair amount of crime, or in some cases, a lot of crime, what do you think they think of this? >> they think it's ridiculous. they you want to do your job. when i got -- when i got appointed as chief eight years ago, you know, people were sick and tired of crime and the police we demoralized so we went in and very effectively and assertively took back our streets. that's what people want. as long as you do it constitutionally, treat people with dignity and respect, and we

do that, but this madness, you know what? i've got to tell you, tucker, i was in chicago three weeks ago. met up with a couple of police officers, we wish would you be our chief. that's nice but your mayor would probably fire me within five minutes. she's not going to want to embrace the type of policing i believe in, and i'm talking about constitutional policing that makes members of our community feel safe. this is ridiculous, tucker, and where are we headed? we're in trouble and the folks that talk about, well, you know, we don't want police to come into communities and make arrests. we want to let violent offenders out of jail. the judges, as it stands right now in detroit, they are locking up violent felons who are armed with weapons. and they laugh at our police officers. we say, well, i'll be out before you get off your shift.

that's why we're having violent crime. if you want to know why these cities are having violent crime, tucker, it's because of one thing. the judges are embracing the bail reform, and not using common sense. i'll say it, and i've continued to say it, it's wrong. they are public servants just like i was. i'm accountable to the people. what about the prosecutors? what about the victims? who is talking to the victims, tucker? not one person. it's sad. it's our profession in a crisis. >> tucker: a small number of people commit an overwhelming percentage of the crime, and if they are out on the street then you're going to have a lot of crime. it sounds like that's what you're saying. >> absolutely. and what i'm suggesting is, talk to the victims, talk to the families, make reasonable common sense decisions on who should be allowed out.

right now, i'm told, there are 13 individuals who are charged with premeditated murder out walking the streets of detroit. shameful. and it's not just detroit. when you look at all of these cities, talk about new york, talk about chicago, this is across. who are we supporting? the criminals. and aclu comes out against me and says, well, chief, you got it wrong. no, you live in a gated community. you're not dealing with what people who live in vulnerable communities, they want the police. bottom line. i talk to these folks. and, you know what? it's not over for me, tucker. it's not over. i'm going to continue to fight for our men and women who serve, it's not over for me. >> tucker: i hope you run for governor and beat the governor

badly. thank you. >> appreciate you, thank you. >> tucker: thank you. several states and many school districts have decided to deny that there is any biological difference between men and women. the governor of florida ron desantis has taken a major step to defund science, nature and reality. he joins us next to explain what he's done. he joins us next to explain what he's done. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> tucker: today the governor of florida ron desantis signed a bill protecting women and girls in the state from having to compete with biological men on

the athletic field. he made the announcement on the field with a jacksonville school. at the event an athlete that's been on this show spoke about her experience. listen. >> it's very frustrating and demoralizing because it's not fair being forced to compete against somebody who is biologically mail because no matter what, you will never be able to beat them and i've raced against these athletes over a dozen times and every time i lost by a significant margin. they have a great advantage over us in the skeletal system and mass but in times in the hundred meter dash they would finish and us girls were still at the 80 meter mark. it's not a close race at all. it goes with science that males have great physical advantage over females, and saying that science isn't a factor in this issue is wrong. >> tucker: governor ron desantis

from florida joins us. thank you for joining us. we've seen bills like this come before republican governors that don't sign them because of corporate pressure. how much pressure did you have? >> it's interesting, as these bills were going through various legislatures, i remember the ncaa put out a statement saying any state that enacts this, we're not going to hold events there and so i called the speaker of the house in florida and i said, did you hear what they said? he said we definitely got to get this done. you can't be cowed by these organizations, particularly by woke corporations, from doing the right thing, and so my view was, throughout this whole time, we have to protect our girls. it is discriminatory to force them to compete against biological males. and so if the price of having a tournament is that i have to deny equal opportunity to hundreds of thousands of young girl and women athletes

throughout florida i'm much more willing to stand with the girls and to hell with these events. >> tucker: i think it's really great point. you listened to the athletes, and they are at the 80 meter mark when the race is already won and they are the top female runners in the state. it's ridiculous. do you expect -- >> and i made the point today -- >> tucker: go ahead. >> she made the point today, she missed new england regionals by two places, and those two places ahead of her were biological males. so she did everything that she could. she put herself into position and had they had fair competition she would have advanced, she could have advanced in her career. a lot of these women will have opportunities to play in college. some of them get college scholarships but even short of that, these are enjoyable experiences. they will remember for the rest of their lives and just think how you feel to basically get cheated out of a victory. >> tucker: so unfair. and we shouldn't tolerate it. you haven't.

do you expect to be punished? do you expect your state to be punished for this? >> i don't think so, tucker, because i think -- i this what we've seen not just with this but we had a strong election integrity bill in florida, actually stronger than georgia and we just made it clear we're standing with our folks. we're going to do the right thing. and so if corporations want to come in and try to bully us around they will go no where. it will be like hitting their head against a brick wall. the result has been we've had very little to do with that elections bill and i don't think we'll have much to do at this point here because we leaned it into and we stood strong. >> tucker: yes. if they know they can't push you around they don't even try. it's a really good point. i hope you inspire other governors. governor ron desantis of florida. thank you very much. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so one of the main reasons we know as much about ufo's and know as much about what the pentagon knows about ufo's is because of a man who

used to run the pentagon's ufo program is because he's gone public. now a smear campaign has been launched against him. he joins to us explain what's going on next. next.

♪ ♪. >> tucker: one of the main reasons that sane people are now capable of talking about ufo's without being laughed at is because of a man elizondo. 13 years ago he was assigned to lead a pentagon program that investigated this phenomenon, whatever it is. since leaving employment with the u.s. government elizondo has gone public about what he knows about ufo sightings. he's made this current conversation possible. now elizondo has filed a complaint with the pentagon inspector general. he says the pentagon is waging a

coordinated disinformation campaign to smear him for talking about this subject. >> thanks so much for coming on. >> always a pleasure. >> tucker: what do you believe -- thank you. what are they doing to you and why? >> there are certainly pockets of resistance within the pentagon and my concern is that they are not being forthcoming with the american people about the reality of the program, the findings of the program, my role in the program, and frankly the importance of this topic from a national security perspective. i think the concern for me is that there is a lot of information that still has to see the light of day, and they are obfiscating the truth, and with congress. >> tucker: it's also illegal, they are required by law to release this information to congress and to the public. when can we expect that and how convinced are you that they are going to be withholding critical

information from that report? >> two things with that, tucker. the report can come out any day. probably any time between next week and june 25. hopefully the report is what congress expects and frankly what congress deserves but i tell you something of equal importance that are think our friends in congress should probably be aware of, and that is, public affairs office right now in the united states pentagon is obfiscating and more importantly messing with the freedom of information process, which is a law and that's something every american should be concerned with. >> tucker: yes. it's illegal and wrong. what specifically do you worry they will omit from this report? >> well, look, the program that i was part of, we looked at a lot of things, primarily as most people know, uap, the unidentified phenomenon topic

and more importantly the incursion into u.s. airspace. there is a lot of data, i mean, a lot, and i have to be careful what i say. as some of that information comes to light, one thing, people look at the incident, they look at the rose vanderbilt, kid in omaha, they say, those are antidotal, events that occur every so often but i think americans would be surprised to foe that these events are continuing. literally last week. they are happening all the time. >> tucker: and you worry that the report will underplay that? >> look, we can laugh all day long about the topic of ufc's or uap's but the bottom line is you have objects that are coming unimpeded into u.s. airspace, controlled u.s. airspace, and i know some -- politicians thinks it's a laughing matter, but if it's nobody's concern then why are we spending millions to

protect the airspace when these things have the ability to fly unimpeded in those airspaces. more importantly you have men and women in uniform, brave men and women in uniform that are reporting these things and there are some people in politics who don't think it's such a big deal. >> tucker: last question, do you think if dod does keep this information from the congress and from the public, that some within the defense department will leak it? will tell us what they are hide something you know, i never condone leaking. i still have my security oath and that's something i would never encourage anybody to do. i think there is a right way to do this. i think so far, it's to have a conversation the way we've been having it. it's there for a reason and the i.g. is there to conduct an evaluation and a fair assessment. hopefully they do that i have faith and confidence in the fine men and women in the i.g. shops

so let's hope they do what they are supposed to do and do the right thing. >> tucker: i hope you're right. thanks a lot. >> as always, thanks. >> tucker: that's it for us tonight. tucker carlson today is out right now featuring an interview with gerald poser, a long conversation about the opioid epidemic. we'll see you tomorrow night. have a great evening and sean takes over now. ** >> sean: all right, tucker, thank you. welcome to "hannity." tonight we begin with a bomb show report that reveals joe biden did, in fact, meet with zero experience hunter's business associates, foreign associates from ukraine, russia, kazakhstan, all while joe was vice president. this in spite of the numerous claims by joe himself that he never, ever, talked to zero experienced hunter about his overseas business dealings. why did you lie, joe? we need to know the truth? joey, if your