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border. >> no! no! no! >> greg: texas is responding to the crisis by declaring a disaster at our southern border, governor greg abbott says they are emboldening the drug cartels and traffickers. the white house officially ended the remain in mexico policy that the last administration put in place. so jesse, i'm asking a question privately tailored for you. why do democrats hate migrant children? >> jesse: how long do we have, greg? you know who shot the video? the french press. reporters foreigners doing the jobs that americans won't do. there's more to the story than we are seeing here, they're saying this little kid is going to meet up with her parents who already crossed from a why wouldn't parents just bring the kid across intact?

because biden is letting family units come and getting on bus tickets to tennessee. that doesn't make sense. this i think was the french press intercepting a child sex trafficking drop off, that's my impression. a good thing, greg, that kamala harris is going to address the root causes. she doesn't realize you can address root causes and the crisis at the same time. so you get lung cancer. you could wait five years and get a class action lawsuit together and sue big tobacco or you could stop smoking and do chemo. you could do both at the same time. biden and harris don't understand you can do both. now she's going to go down to guatemala and she's going to address root causes. one of them she says is food insecurity. have you seen any of these migrants crossing, greg? they do not look i may emaciated to me. she also says one of the drivers of this migration is climate. i looked at the weather in guatemala city, it is 76 degrees. you know what the weather is in

el paso, texas? 82. it's hotter here than it is down there. so they want to talk about root causes, the root cause is in the white house, not the northern triangle because when you get rid of the remaining mexico, you get rid of the wall and bring back catch and release, that's what explodes migrations. i think honestly, biden has anger issues and he's taking out his anger on the red states, flooding texas with these illegals and these drugs and these gang members, canceling energy projects in oklahoma and alaska, boycotting georgia, shipping illegals to tennessee. donald trump loved a blue states. he was constantly rescuing factories from michigan and sending ventilators to new york and even saved to the dairy farmers with tariffs in vermont. vermont! the state that will never vote for donald trump. so i mean, joe biden, can he lift a finger for texas? lift a finger, joe.

>> greg: harold, you just experience your first fruit bouquet, all these different parts such as he creates and you don't know which one you are supposed to attack first. that's his genius. >> jesse: overwhelming force. it >> greg: there's like 60 things you can respond to, harold. >> harold: i'd say a couple things, she's going to go down and going to address one part. to guatemala. so the last time there was a serious investment, which part of the trio want to try to react, the last time we got serious about trying to stabilize our hemisphere in this regard it was under president kennedy. he passed to the alliance for progress, a very targeted relief package. drugs have been coming across the border, even when president trump was there we had a serious challenge and i wouldn't believe president trump's border policy for that, democrats have to get

serious, more serious about what happens with people coming across the border and we have to put more people down there to protect our border and if that means having a debate about who was watching kids into his not watching kids perhaps we should have that and compartmentalize that. think about what we spend in the middle east to stabilize it, we spend billions a year, pennies on the dollar to stabilize our own hemisphere. i don't want to keep having this political argument. we can go back and forth, democrats gain a little bit from it every two years, republican sometimes gain from it, when i was in congress george w. bush was trying to advance in some to stabilize down there and he talked about an immigration plan, the last comprehensive immigration plan, you know but a forward? president reagan. name me as ceo of a company that can say we are going to take 40 years to revisit a serious problem with the company and i will show you a ceo that doesn't work there anymore. we allow our president and congress to allow this silly conversation, it's silly that we

have a conversation repeatedly, that is a recurring one. we should be able to do both, address tobacco companies and address the cancer. i think that was part as well, it's hard to follow. >> greg: to harold's point, this is a cynical take from me which is a surprise, when the democrats are not in power, immigration is theirs and when republicans are not empowered it's there so it's a game in which every four years the teams just switch sides. that's all they do, they switch sides and it becomes an outrage for one side and the other side has to defend themselves. and it never changes. >> sandra: watching the white house press briefing today, jen psaki barely even asked about this, will this video of this 5-year-old boy up for the white house to respond to, he's five years old, carrying a teddy bear. his words, "don't leave me, where are you going, don't

leave." the woman who left him there spoke to the associated foreign press. she said the parents are already here, the boy is coming in from mexico. a reminder that kamala harris, by the way, there's reports today that she apparently panicked after joe biden gave her this immigration assignment might give us a clue as to why she hasn't visited the border, hasn't held a press conference about this, there is a declaration by the texas governor about what's happening there, resources are running dry in these towns are seeing crime on the rise in little boy like that, why is that not being addressed and why is the messaging from this white house not changing? when jen psaki was asked about this today she said "migrating to the border puts you and others at risk" period, there is no message they are putting out there that our borders are closed and there's a right way to enter the country. why? why do kamala harris not attack the situation and why is her own party not holding her up to the

responsibility? >> greg: she's learning to hide. it worked for joe. i have a theory, would you like to hear it? >> dagen: of course. >> greg: many offenders are guilty of distance privilege, they are far enough away from the problem for it not to matter so you have this declaration of disaster, those are the people and everybody else asked about it, not a big deal, not a big deal, you are not there. in new york city we can reap the benefits of the cheap labor at our restaurants. but we never have to deal with the problems. >> dagen: the chattering classes and delete here in new york and in los angeles and washington, d.c., to texas and go, you know, "those stupid rednecks," they don't really care what happens in red states, to jesse's point. i just want to know how many screaming kids is a going to take for biden and company to

give a damn because all they care about is the words in the messaging, we were arguing over, it's not a crisis or chaos, it's a challenge. they can't wordsmith crying children, they can't massage the message of a 5-year-old screaming to make it palatable to the compliant media or their base. what biden and company have done is they broke intentionally something that was fixed for bringing people across the border who are potentially future voters and at the same time they simultaneously created an opportunity for people, for human traffickers and drug traffickers to profit off of human suffering and tragedy. so if you look at the children being terrorized at the border, in biden's world this is just the political price to pay for their policy. this is just collateral damage.

the person who dumped that kid or the people who dumped that kid at the border don't care about his well-being just like the people in the white house. >> greg: that child still will always have connections to whoever they hired and that's going to be used against that kid when he's in the united states, whenever they want anything because i know the kid has relatives there, they need him to do some work, drug work, whatever, he's got to do it or somebody's going to get hurt. ahead, dr. fauci getting ready to cash in on the pandemic with a brand-new book. hooray. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> sandra: dr. anthony fauci causing more controversy as he is being accused of profiting off the pandemic by putting out a new book that was written during the health crisis. newly released emails now show that between fauci and a researcher tied to the wuhan lab, he may have given china free pass early on.

that research regarding this. "i just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence so far it's a natural origin for covid-19 from a bat to human spill over, not a lab release from the wuhan institute of virology." my first question is why we dr. fauci have been communicating directly with a researcher from the wuhan lab and did he take that researcher at his word? >> greg: i think that researcher, fact-check me on this, somebody over there. >> jesse: who are you talking to? >> greg: anybody. this dude was really involved in this stuff and he was on the board of fact-checking on facebook so he had his finger in everything. by the way, the book title is "expect the unexpected: ten lessons in truth, service, and the way forward."

that was his second choice because "how i saved the world" was taken. what i really noticed in the emails, there was so many kiss-ass emails by people in the media and other industries trying to ingratiate themselves and there was so much fawning that i think i got a deer tick just reading them. there's -- he's all over the place. he's very cagey because he knows his emails are going to be read but this is kind of scary because basically they are massaging this idea away, they are trying to make it go away. >> sandra: to greg's point about the praise. "from my perspective, your comments are brave. and coming from your trusted voice will help dispel the myth being spun around the virus' origins." >> jesse: when they love you one minute and the next minute they are like, who are you? he's no longer going to be

useful, this is a long list of dirty laundry, there's emails and their scientist saying, yeah, this virus looks like it's engineered, you might want to look into it. one scientist emailed, "this is how they engineered it" entities and their sending emails, he's out there on tv saying people need to double mask. this is bad stuff and i think biden is going to assume look to get dr. anthony fauci a little bit of an off-ramp because next senate hearing i see rand paul licking his chops, he's going to tell the doctor a new one and it's not going to be pretty. >> sandra: jesse is referencing the one expert who warned dr. fauci that the coronavirus potentially looked engineered and had some unusual features so, took gregg's point about this book about the truth, will he reveal that he was given a heads-up to look into that at the very least?

b3 we will see. i think if you pull back the covers on emails and a lot of things you'll find a lot of back-and-forth between people in government, it's hard for me to reach a conclusion of dr. fauci has anything other than may be politically naive. to call him intentionally malicious or un-american from a guy who's given his entire public life from aids to covid, 40 years. has he made some mistakes? when president trump maybe naively said we can inject ourselves with soap and that might serve as a defense to covid. asked dr. burks a question. >> greg: it was about infrared light. >> harold: it was an interesting question. i think we have to be willing to move beyond that and if we find that there is an effort by dr. fauci to a covered up the fact that this came from the slab and we are now going to investigate it, i think the dagger should be out but it's

just hard for me to reach a conclusion. i don't think president reagan wanted anything but freedom for our country even though the iran-contra thing happen on his watch, people make mistakes, they say things and they move on. we will learn from this book and we learn more if we allow an investigation, i hope my party and republicans allow for an investigation to take place so we can get to the bottom of whether this came from them. >> jesse: how many people died in iran-contra compared to a pandemic? a lot more people died during this pandemic. >> harold: you're not blaming dr. fauci for that? >> jesse: if you can go back to that money from wuhan and point to him covering that up so they can keep the heat on trump instead of china and lock every american down to the democrats can read all the state election laws to beat trump? that's a pretty big scandal. >> harold: i want to make sure i understand that, you're saying if we are determined at the

beginning that this came from the lab as opposed to -- >> jesse: that would've united the country against china instead of dividing the country against trump. >> sandra: let me get dagen in here, he's writing a book and he's profiting off of that book, a book that he chose to write during the pandemic while this health crisis was still happening. >> greg: imagine writing a book during a pandemic. >> jesse: i mean, who has time? >> dagen: at least he waited a little bit longer than killer cuomo in new york. he's a spotlight had been seeking hack and we seen that repeatedly over and over again. listen, the last two call books i read were about ted bundy and diane downs who tried to murder her three kids, killing one of them so reading fauci's book isn't out of the question for me. the issue is money, always

following the money. he funneled money through that researcher, eco-health alliance into the wuhan lab and says "definitively, it didn't go to function research," to eventually make the coronavirus more transmissible. he does not know that. there is no way for him to ever know that. but i do know is that money from the united states could've gone to potentially create a virus that's come back and killed 600,000 americans and three and a half million people worldwide. a kind of think that is worth looking into and by the way, he's past his expiration date but is not naive so if an explosion happened, in a town that has a munitions factory, you don't go look in the laundromat. you go look in the munitions factory. >> sandra: "the daily caller"

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♪ ♪ >> harold: hackers are at it again, time targeting what we eat, though, the world's largest meat supplier slowly coming back online after a massive cyber attack forcing them to shut down beef processing plants all across america, the fbi says russian-linked hackers are responsible and here is how our

president is reacting. >> mr. president, will we retaliate against russia for this latest ransomware attack? do you think putin is testing you? >> no. >> harold: greg, i'm going to call you by your name this time. should there be, we saw the colonial pipeline, should there be an effort between the government and the private sector, libertarians and congress to oppose this or some liberal democrats who oppose this, should there be a concerted effort to help them build up their cyber defenses? >> greg: absolutely, this is the new war. between drones and bioterror viruses and attacking our grid, this is how it's going to be, nobody's going to be throwing bodies at us anymore. it's all going to be this. i am just amazed, we've seen, okay, they can hack our meat supply, they can hack our

pipeline, they can hack the department of defense back in 1999, they can hack playstation but it's impossible to hack an election, that's in a fact. what concerns me is how the administration is still saying climate change is a national security threat. this is. climate change doesn't have a moral intention, right? it's not trying to destroy you so you have time to figure out and we have smart people but there are these priorities that i just mentioned, these are people intent on destroying us, whether it's bioterror or going after our meeting and our gas, what's next? our breweries? this is our stuff. >> harold: obviously the president is planning down to sit down with president putin in the coming days, should this be a reason to not hold the senate? i want to hear sandra and dagen's take on this as well. >> jesse: i'm with greg, don't

fall for a phishing scam. when they have to the pipeline, shots fired. when they hacked our beef, tactical nuclear strike. there are a few sacred things in this country. there's football season, christmas season and there is grilling season. and we are right on the cusp of grilling season and a man like to grow because we don't do it in the kitchen and we can make whatever we want. we don't want fish and we want chicken, we want steaks and burgers and if they interfere with that i'm going to hold vlad personally responsible. you remember the bush doctrine, if there is a terrorist are harboring in your country, we hold that government accountable so if they are doing this from russia i am holding the kremlin responsible and we are going to go after them inside russia. also what you need to do, you need to have congress passed a law tomorrow, never going to happen but they should do it immediately and prohibit companies from paying ransomware

cyber thieves. they should prohibit them because that d incentivizes the hackers. all the infrastructure money biden wants to spend on windmills, take it from the windmills and give it to the critical companies that are going to get hacked, give it to big beef, give it to utilities, give it to the pipeline so they can hire some white hat hackers, so they can probe and find our soft spots and upgrade their cyber defenses. >> sandra: wait until they find a way into our banking systems, obviously already have, wait until they find a way into our financial infrastructure, our equities markets, commodities markets which is obviously already hit. based on this fbi report they are now confirming that this was this russian group, there is a lot more information about this group, the public face of it bloomberg is reporting a user of the dark web cyber crime forum who goes by the name "unknown"

expressively and publishes in russian so if you think the colonial pipeline and now this hack of our beef processing plants here in the united states and globally, if you think this is the end of it it is not. extremely vulnerable in all sectors of our economy, we are extremely vulnerable. when biden sits down with putin, there better be tough talk, if he sits down with him. >> harold: yes or no, the senate should still happen? >> sandra: if he can be tough. >> harold: yes or no, you think he can be tough and your reaction? >> dagen: it's a present and a gift to him, the biden administration think that talking makes us safer. well, i would say bending down to a tyrant, groveling before a dictator, an evil dictator who murders people makes us look weaker and toe greg's point, you talk about client, gasoline and beef eaters, meat eaters, the

two greatest enemies of climate change activists. could it be climate terrorism? you're asking the question. >> greg: i've got to disagree. if he holds firm, you know, there's going to be something we can get out of this. there's going to be something. if putin decides to have him killed, that's something, you know? it's possible. the three "the fastest" is up next. ♪ ♪

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freak out on someone who cut you off, turns out your road rage is actually genetic and researchers have a new term for it, stress provoked by acceleration. you'll enjoy it. >> sandra: i can tell you do, jesse. the study has concluded that drivers who showed signs of stress were much more exhausted after finishing with these events than others. the one thing that gets me on the road is when there's an exit coming up and it says half mile up the road and everybody waits for their turn to make the exit and then all these people come around and then they duck in at the last second, slows down traffic, that is the one thing. >> jesse: greg doesn't have road rage, he just has rage. before it's on all the time, nonstop. side effects include so many things for you know what you're talking about? you know it's genetic, you hit

it? the revulsion regarding line cutting, no matter where you are in life, when somebody gets in front of you it triggers... and that's the only thing that causes road rage in a car. >> jesse: that's why i a border hawk, because i load people cutting in line. >> dagen: i have grocery store rage for that very reason. my road rage manifests itself through lots of unusual hand gestures that i've created but i never, ever get aggressive in my car because i don't want scratches. i care more about the car. >> jesse: you never see any road rage in tennessee, do you? >> harold: never. whether it's genetic or not, whoever figures out a solution to this deserves a nobel prize. i want to make sure i know when you're on the road. >> jesse: next up, and italian

sculptor just sold an invisible statue that doesn't actually exist for more than $18,000. the lucky recipient will get a certificate of authentication both signed and stamped by the artist. this is brilliant, i should've gotten my wife an invisible diamond ring and just said, you know, it's very expensive. >> greg: just so you know, i talked to the sculptor. i actually have it. i got insurance. >> jesse: you ensure it for more than it's worth. sandra, are you buying this? >> sandra: no, they are describing this as a vacuum, how is their energy from a blank space? i don't know, $18,000, you get a certificate and you bring it home? still don't get it. the two were you standing behind

that invisible sculpture? >> harold: i used a drug test people who buy buy these kind of things. when you buy your wife that second ring i'd like you to pick me up one, too. >> jesse: on the house, harold. >> dagen: i majored in art history so if i worked on another network like cnn i would say it's brilliant. but i work here. i would like a gif of greg doing that. >> jesse: finally, flying is already bad enough and this new seating design is sure to make things worse. this concept aims to turn the airplane cabin into something like a double-decker bus, squeezing in as many passengers as possible. do you think this is actually more efficient? >> dagen: i don't care if it is, i am not sitting with my face under somebody's backside, ever. not on a plane. >> jesse: are you paying for the top shelf or are you on the

bottom. >> harold: whoever figures out an answer to this deserves a nobel prize as well. >> sandra: if anyone hears from the chicago area you know you got the double-decker trains there, people are willing to do this. i think you've got the spirit airlines, southwest airlines, they would figure it out and they would sell every seat. >> greg: i told you about my innovation, right? it's called door-to-door snore. this is where they come to your house, right, they put you under in the next moment you wake up in your hotel destination so you are unconscious the whole time. they can literally stack you like things in a plane. i had a morbid thoughts are. they can stack you like loaves of bread and pacu. >> jesse: you stole that from "the a-team," didn't they used to drug the guy who was afraid of flying? yeah. before it seeped into my brain. i get all of my ideas from "the a-team."

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♪ ♪ >> dagen: sunday night just got better, trey gowdy trey gowdy's brand-new shell will debut this weekend, 7:00 p.m. eastern time. the man himself is here to give us a preview and we have called some of our sources and done a deep dive on your background so this will be a whole lot of fun. first up, what's your goal for the show every week? >> thanks for having me and let me just get this out of the way up front, i was a shock as a shocked is a five of y'all are that i have a show on fox or don't like anyone expected it. i'm surprised that your surprise. sunday night is a perfect night to reflect and remember the week that's gone by and also kind of anticipate and plan for whatever

issues may come forward. i want to have good guests give them a chance to talk, learn something and have some humanity. look at issues from a different perspective like i did in the courtroom, have fun and educate ourselves both about what happened and what's going to happen. >> dagen: greg? >> greg: i don't want to educate anybody. i heard you a lot in common with me and that you stick to a really strict routine that rarely changes. like you eat the same thing every day. i eat bacon at lunch, make ribs at dinner every day, are you that weird? >> i am a lot weirder than you are, greg. if you want to send my life into a a tailspin, make me order off a menu. i would eat the same thing for dinner but my wife won't allow that. same thing for breakfast but i

don't eat lunch at all. >> greg: what you eat for breakfast and dinner? >> i eat oatmeal and i would eat spaghetti for dinner but my wife is and allow that. i eat oatmeal every single morning, i'm a creature of habit, i like a routine and so if anybody wants to kill me i have all the same routine every single day. [laughter] the 30 or 40 million people that want to do that. >> sandra: trey, nobody here is surprise, you are fantastic and we loved having you as a colleague. one thing you are really good at it and i love watching you and the 7:00 hour on a weeknight that you've done a couple weeks, you have a way of always finding the right side of everything. why are you optimistic about the future, trey? >> sandra, first of all, thank you for saying that, someone i do respect respect as much and watch as much as you come i respect you for that.

i spent 20 years looking at the very worst that the human condition has to offer. i was a homicide prosecutor and you really just can't go through life like that. there are so many good stories, there's always another side to almost every issue and sometimes there is a silver lining or a bright side. you just have to look at it. i have to make myself do it. i'm not wired that way. part of it, quite frankly, is the woman that i've lived with for the last 31 years who is so optimistic and hopeful, my best friend in politics, tim scott, optimistic and hopeful. i had to force myself to do it because prosecutors are not known for their hopefulness or optimism. >> jesse: you said you were going to let your guests talk on the show. that's a really bad idea. you don't really want to let your guests talk too much but it's a good time slot, 7:00, it's right after the 4:00

football game and xander ipo for sunday night football so we will take the time to watch you. what hairstyle are you going to debut on your first show? because you've gone through many hair iterations. i think that's really what the audience wants to know. >> well, jesse, first of all, you didn't capture 1/100th of my hairstyles from that picture. i've got a lot more than that. or in the one hour time slot on the show. i'm going to do something weird, i'm going to model the hairstyle of my first guest every week and my first guest sunday night is tim scott. >> jesse: your shaving it, i like it. >> dagen: i like the blade runner dude you have there. >> harold: trey gowdy, i understand why that your first name is harold. i know a bunch of nerds named

harold, i understand why you'd want to go with trey. not many people bring your critical thinking and sense of humor and ability to deliver a strong right hook politically. if you could give president biden one piece of advice tonight is he's trying negotiate this infrastructure bill, what would it be to win republicans over? >> probably, harold, first of all i love that name but a guy from tennessee already has it so i had to go come up with something else and i love being on "special report" with you. you're such a gentleman. i would encourage him to go back and read his inaugural address. he talked a lot about unity and that means different things to different people but it struck a chord with the nation and if you're going to talk about it then do it. i would find a way where we don't have to pass this through reconciliation which is about the most dis- unifying thing i can think of great >> dagen: good to see you, thank you for being here. we will see you on sunday night,

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isn't that wonderful? >> jesse: excellent work. i can plug my book every day which is how it saved the world a variable. you can order it now off amazon. so i'm going to show you some other video that is really funny. and it's a celebrity jogger who eats apples while he juggles. we got home. i got was on america's got talent. his name is brian. look at this concentration. that is a brilliant athletic ability right there. at its very finest. >> dagen: this one is for you jesse. i know you love to grill meats of all kind don't try to grill it off these of the orlando event the door. because that might explode if you are having the engine. boom. you just destroyed a car worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. men like to grill, but they

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>> greg: this is like standard during her own makeup and opening. >> harold: he said she was inspired to do this by watching heath ledger's character in "the joker." >> greg: so nice to have real makeup now. >> sandra: you look great. >> greg: . thank you. "special report" up next. >> bret: you guys look better in the studio. hi, guys. good evening, welcome to washing. i'm bret baier. the world health organization is refusing to authorize a new investigation into the origins of the coronavirus. this occurs as the w.h.o. enters criticism for the election of syria to its executive board. that also in newly uncovered and release emails, we are learning new information about how top health experts in the u.s. including dr. anthony fauci responded to early reports about the coronavirus possibly