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why he's now refusing to let california state of emergency. >> it's a hot take on higher education, by bill maher called college a wreck. >> doctor fauci is add it again. at the start of the coronavirus pandemic, he dismissed the wuhan lab week. but now that e-mails have surfaced, he's pushing for an investigation into the origins of covid. >> it's more likely to be a natural jumping of species from an animal reservoir to human. however, since we don't know that for sure, you've got to keep an open mind and in all likelihood, were dealing with a jump of species but i keep an open mind, we should continue to look for the origin. should want to know how this happened so we can make sure it doesn't happen again but in the

middle of all of that, i become the object of extraordinary, completely inappropriate distorted misleading and misrepresented attacks. >> is another possible flip-flop, the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases gave the wuhan lab half-million dollars in grants to study coronavirus in fact. >> immodest collaboration with respectable chinese scientists to world experts on coronavirus. we did that through a larger grant. the subgrant was $600,000 over. of five years so it was a modest amount. >> now we have learned the lab got much more than that, the new york post reporting april 132020 e-mail woman and i a id official, 2019 funding for the wuhan lab is the first

installment under the new grant that would have met at the facility $7,150,000 over a total of six years and addition to the almost 750,000 received between fiscal years 2014 -- 2018. he called out doctor fauci this morning on fox and friends. >> these are private doctors, the decisions he made, hundreds of millions or billions of lives around the world. it's not personal, what's with the victim routine? is not your dentist, he's not doing a root canal, is a major international medical figure paid for by u.s. tax dollars, that's not personal. as an investigation going on, the tax payers who paid you deserve to know. >> lisa, you just heard him with doctor fauci saying an attack on him is an attack on science meaning if you don't believe

what you say, you don't believe in science. >> i think he'd have to be an idiot to believe anything doctor fauci says after how he's repeatedly been wrong. we need to come to grips, we are not going to get to the bottom of the origins of covid, don't you think the communist party in china has already destroyed the evidence, destroyed? the train has left the station and what is demented and twisted his we could have got to the bottom of it but we had an american media and left-wing politicians more interested sticking it to president donald trump, railroading him out of office, beginning to the bottom of the coronavirus origin and deny the undeniable, the fact that you have a laboratory and wuhan studying deadly coronavirus and deadly passengers at the time of the leak yet they call it a conspiracy theory. think of how insane that is.

we are never going to get to the bottom of this when you have the world health organization pushing propaganda and the american media on the left more interested in helping china than the american people. discussing. >> lisa brings up some good points and the worst case scenario, we don't know if it's true but the worst case scenario would be china created this virus in a lab using money the u.s. government gave them and then we, through bureaucrats like doctor fauci help them get away with it by covering it up. >> you just said the right word, he's a bureaucrat. a government employee and probably enjoys being in charged. i don't remember if it was this morning i watched that segment, funny he had no problem going out and taking the praise in doing interviews and magazine covers but when you go back with evidence, not just opinions, asking him questions about the decisions he made and looks like

lies he told, he is now a victim. at the end of the day, i don't blame fauci for getting it wrong, i blame him for getting it wrong and being arrogant i blame him for getting it wrong and the role the media wanted him to fill, donald trump during this pandemic exactly where he was positioned. you can't have it one way and not the other, step into a position of leadership, understand he's not a leader, he someone who supposed to take information and make recommendations to the elected leader of our country during this time. if you put him, the media and democrats into leadership, you've got to be able to ask questions and apparently he can't. >> a lot is coming out in his e-mails, one saying what circulating online right now, he had a march madness style bracket with deadly viruses and

champion's coronavirus so it's out there, take what you will from. despite what come out about the agency giving money to the wuhan institute of virology and the fact that the theory was seriously debated as far back as january 2020, the white house is still sticking by it. >> peter doocy and jen psaki's soundbite. >> should be held accountable. >> he's renounced the servant, he's overseeing the management of global health crises and attacks launched on him or something we would stand by. i understand this interest in the e-mail, he's answered a lot of russians on the e-mail, i don't have much more to add.

>> president biden would never fire him? >> no. >> no circumstance so far, how do you feel about that? >> first, as he mentioned, he is a public figure, international medical doctor which we all relied on. my word of the day is he finessed the american people, international media. when it came to local leader directions, the new york governor was the golden boy for how to defeat covid when we know andrew cuomo in nursing homes, thereby creating death among a lot of residents and prepares them off expands that as well when it comes to how people

should receive doctor anthony fauci, he should not be above reproach were considered fire. there were documents for said he basically lied to us and when people brought up the fact that the wuhan lab possibly could have been the reason for the spread of the mainstream media said trump conspiracy theories, crockpot ideas and it wasn't until after trump left that maybe there's something to it and all of a sudden everybody wants to investigate, it's right. the evidence is probably gone to what you do at this time? you call it quits there's nothing to find, likely. >> lisa, there's the follow of money from the news out today is he said that his agency gave $600,000 over the course of five years, small print, the report that says more like 800,000 so is he going to be able to

explain that solomon. >> i don't think he is going to be and when you get to the bottom of the can't get to the bottom of it so, will always right now own son under a federal investigation for business dealings with china, we have a president who while vice president, flew his son out on air force sheep two, shook the hand and ten days later, hunter biden was trying to get, we have a world health organization watching investigation the 17th chinese experts, we have china daily and delivered so my question, who is going to hold china accountable at the end of all of this? i don't think we have the right people in office to do it and it's sad. >> absolutely and it would be a travesty of the u.s. government actually aided china and

covering this whole thing up. still, questions remain. next on the big saturday show, a surprise win for grown owners in california. decades-old assault weapons ban a failed experiment. stay with us. ♪♪

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♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show. a federal judge overturned california's 32-year-old assault

weapons ban saying it violates second amendment. the ruling he said want to be forgiven if one is persuaded by news media and others of the nation as murderous ar-15 the fact does not support this. i tend to agree with him on that. lisa, you moved from new york, a place with gun rights to florida, a place that does not. remote gun ownership and a b. you feel less safe among the ar-15. >> i don't and more important, i feel free in fact critical. i don't own a gun, i never have and honestly the last time i went to the shooting range, i have bruises over my arm because i held the gun incorrectly so however, i support the second amendment because it serves a

critical rule of law deteriorating. why do you think chavez it was found in venezuela a month long program encouraging people to return their guns in exchange for electronics. that sounds familiar. look at the fact that he spent $50 million continue that push to ban guns from citizens rate. with the america is not authoritarianism, however you look at the past year with the coronavirus and have so many politicians have abused their authority and power the name of public safety when it was just a power grab and ultimately that's what gun control is, a way to control the population so i don't support it and will continue to stand up for the second amendment because it's critical. >> i almost wish you would have stayed in new york because we need people there to advocate maybe we are making momentum and

caught tom cotton had words with the nominee over this, i think we got that. >> can you tell me, what's an assault weapon for? it defined assault rifle and any semi automatic rifle capable of accepting detachable magazine above the caliber of 22 would include two to three, ar-15. >> detachable magazine with 22 rounds would be defined as semi automatic in the capable with a detachable magazine with the ground round greater. >> i'm amazed that's the definition. that would basically cover every single modern sporting rifle in america. there's no as an assault weapon. >> the reason i wanted to play that, what they are talking about there is how we define an

assault weapon. reason is important, look at the judge's ruling, he sank pretty much every other state of california doesn't have the right to restrict the second amendment and say but these weapons you can't of my question here, is this judge stressing the amendment to block? california has the right not only to find weapons ban them? >> i'm not for danny but i'm a gun owner myself. i don't shoot my gun like in a movie, thus the distinction. >> we are both in miami right now i'll tell you, a person from chicago, it's not much different than gavin newsom there when l.a. when it comes to banning guns and assault weapons and handguns. the shop chicago have successfully done it for a number of years. that left us with citizens

unable to protect themselves and defend themselves and also elect the streets of chicago later. >> exactly so you're not able to defend yourself. >> honestly i had a situation impacting my family in 2017, my younger brother was in a car to been locked up 25 times his best friend died in his arms, thankfully his best friend died, his only regret as a legal gun owner, he was able protect him and his friend because he didn't have a gun that day. gun ownership is extraordinarily important and a lot of folks will say you put guns into the wrong hands, you can put knives in the wrong as well. we seen it happen in chicago years ago literally beating someone down with an iron of

some sort so it can happen in any way but you need to protect yourself, protect our constitutional rights. >> and criminals know who's arms and who is. currently, this is a california ruling on california law. over 1 million in 202011, half a million for almost a half a million new gun owners, what does it say about california and where governor newsom is? >> you are a second amendment advocate, it's a huge victory for help what happened in california is a massive deal in the judge's case, in the news media, turning ar-15's into something they are not in cases likening them to us was life and homeland defense equipment, good for battle and to answer your question, gun ownership has risen over the past year particularly among two groups of

people, women and african-americans because people don't feel safe in this country because crime is spiking do in part because of the defund police the democrats can't take away police and fans, it's not a society, i wish it was people need the ability to defend themselves. >> i don't know if this will stick, i don't know if the second a number ticket to california but hopefully the second amendment and other states have to abide by it as well. worries over what's happening in our classrooms and maybe we can talk about more guns, to. ♪♪

♪♪ >> welcome back to the big saturday show. is our education system crumbly? that's the question tonight. as our teachers union fight against the return to classroom teachers union fighting for anti- israel movement. i'm not kidding. san francisco teachers union approving a resolution that reads quote, as public school educators in the united states, we have a special responsibility to stand in solidarity with the palestinian people because of the $3.8 billion annually to the u.s. government use our tax

dollars to fund work time. also, bill maher calling out what he thinks higher education has come, a record. let's talk about what higher education in america for the is. a racket. that tells you sell you a very expensive ticket to the upper middle class. liberals see school the way tax cuts is the answer to everything. we imagine colleges the way fight income inequality but as does the reverse. is it really liberal for someone who doesn't go to college and make less money to pay for people who do go and make more? while china picking our? undergrad degrees and performing arts. [laughter] computer and information science or math. say what you want about lori loughman, at least she understood one good scam deserves another.

>> an interesting take there. i want to go to lisa who i call lisa from the block because she has whiny rap lyrics. >> sacral sweet of you. [laughter] i got to give a shout out to our team in the back because throughout the tweet faster than hillary clinton's e-mails. that was really good. we appreciate that. >> i got so much hate for that. [laughter] >> i don't think you know little whiny rap lyrics. >> well, you heard them. >> to moving on. i want to talk about this. we have schools across america teaching theory now we have anti-semitism in america over the past year, there's never been a better case for school choice in america, 71% of

americans support school choice even among democrats by ten points but what is holding them back? is the teachers union and the loss they have over democrats and we saw the teachers union literally right cdc guidance for reopening from supporting school choice turnaround on it when he wanted to see a larger national profile in office so it is with the corrupt and thank god we have parents across america fighting back, we are seeing it in county's right now as well as parents getting organized now that it's full back on the things kids are being taught. >> i was going to ask you about that, i'm glad you mentioned. there is jewish parents, he had something to say about the teachers union and provided a statement, the teachers union

failed the most basic mission this year, educating san francisco's instead of focusing on that, they are weighing on international political plan that experts have results for 70 years and it's a good thing to say. i would ask you, i know you grew up and we want to go to bill maher soundbite talking about education and the fact that so much into getting a degree in my opening and we are all the same age, if you don't get a college degree, there's no way you can be successful we know that wrong. i know work with your father as a bricklayer and you know how empowering it is to take on a trade. thank you for your service, what you think about the benefit of schools in alternative forms

that may not be necessary in getting a degree from harvard or another elite school? >> when the stuff hits the fan and bit coin ruins us, it's not going to be performing arts that gets us through but someone might know how to build shelter or keep guidelines going even when hacked and life they continue on. not only is it honorable profession but my dad every week looking back at something he built was a work of art with his own two hands and what we have is not an institutional problem, is a cultural problem. we grew up with parents who the opportunity of their parents didn't see in the only way was to send us to school and let us get the college experience, less to do than drinking beer than anything else. it gave me a lot of perspective

on life and i commend anyone anyone who get an education bucket live experience and put food on the table so you can go to to the living room and watch the performing arts on netflix or hulu. >> i believe in good quality education. i want to ask you, quote carley, china is kicking our butts and bill maher said politically he doesn't always get to know talking about color and democrats not following signs in a broken clock, i want to ask you about china. do you have faith in the administration's ability to fight off china over thinking the world superpower? >> first of all, i think bill maher is an interesting guy.

he says a lot of unique things and surprising things opinion on china is absolutely accurate. yours is as well saying trade school is something a lot of people could benefit from rather than getting expensive college degree they may not even use. colleges have never been more liberal than they are right now. one of the biggest mistakes were hogan's made is getting off college campuses but also to go back to the san francisco teachers union, why they weighing in on this movement? that's one 100% not in their job description and not something the u.s. supports because it goes against our strong partnership with israel and at least one numbers of the squad supported, is something in the purview, members of congress but like that parent we showed that statement of, literally no one asked the teachers union to weigh in on international politics to all they did was anger a bunch of people and

their virtue signal just for that reason. >> thank you and unfortunately didn't get moved but on another day, maybe. next, california's governor and all that power he's got going to coronavirus. the move he made to keep california under tight control, that's next. ♪♪ hot dog or... chicken? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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power during the coronavirus pandemic. he will lift the state of emergency on the 15th as for side. here's his explanation. >> the emergency, the one thing i'm certain of is there's uncertainty in the future. we are still in a state of emergency is not vanished. i think the summer months off. >> carley, the reopening of the economy on june 15, have cases at a record low so why are they still in a state of emergency? >> the fact that he said that call it a lie. 52% of adults have been vaccinated, we are not in a state of emergency anymore. the stadiums are open, movie theaters are open, the cdc listed lifted mask mandates, people are getting into fights on airplanes, people are back. [laughter] that we are not in a state of emergency anymore and lisa, to

answer your question, a quick short answer, this is all about power controlling people, telling people that they still be afraid to governor newsom can control what they do. >> i want to pull this up compared it to the city florida, obviously gianna and i are here right now, pulled us up for the people at home. all right, the state of emergency california started march -- obviously that's when everything started to hit in the country however, california still has not with the state of emergency. florida did may 3 and the free state of florida, you look at the numbers in terms of death, florida is doing really well comparatively speaking, particularly at california, given all that, why hasn't california reopened their economy fully yet? >> that's a great question and

as you know, i lived in los angeles when covid hit in may 2020, i decided it was time to hightail it to miami because it was open. it was interesting to see with 150,000 homeless people in the state of california shut down thousands of businesses to never come back, there's been an increase of homelessness in california. i did a report on the network which people can go to my website to check it out, i interviewed the homeless and they have no idea about the programs, the mayor l.a. and the governor of california helping those in need, they had no idea. part of the fact that 200,000 people have left the state of california the start of the pandemic last year. people are not looking to set up business there anymore and the fact that he's changing course january 15 opening date provides

for those trying to run a business uncertainty how can you run your business if you don't know if the governor is going to help the local government and shut you down again, one of the points of that? i think that's why caitlyn jenner may have a strong shot beating governor gavin newsom. >> joey, we've seen governor newsom right now, i think he's like 47 executive orders to change or taylor 200 different laws from my understanding, how do these powers get you in the future? we seek governors like newsom, cuomo, you can see the interesting information right there, how does this get used in the future? is a climate change, gun reform are these used in the future? >> when you look at a governor like gavin newsom not all that popular who has a strong challenger now, i do they want tight control over the state?

one thing about california, of the top ten states that pull funding their way, they get the least capitol so what does that mean? who's paying for california to continue to operate? the people who have money in california, tax to high heaven. so you look at gavin newsom, not only do you worry about coronavirus pandemic, why is the film industry in georgia? we treat people with a little bit more respect for household income than they do in california, these things start to outweigh each other in middle-class families in california are going to get tired of it, not just the billionaires in silicon valley. >> teamwork makes the dream work. moving on, a dramatic spike in unruly behavior aboard commercial planes, shocking you video shows a would be hijacker attempting to breach the cockpit. disturbing cell phone video and so much more, next. stay with us.

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welcome back to the big saturday shelf. a deal the passenger tried to hijack a plane. video shows the would be hijacker taken down by several passengers and crew members. the flight attendant tackled the would be plain hijacker and carried him to the back of the plane. another passenger wrote, delta, this man needs an award. he just saved a plane l.a. to nashville. delta released a statement that reads the passenger was not successful, the plane landed safely in the passenger was removed by police and the fbi. he's in custody now. carley, after what happened here in georgia with the voting law, people attacking the ceo for weighing in. one i want to remind people is how hard these people work they are not part of political life, every time i go on a plane, i'm

here in atlanta, these crewmembers are so special and treat me right and make my life easier, everybody. people can be very frustrated. does this show how difficult of a job it is? >> well, i cannot believe this happened. i am so glad we are doing this story because think about the detail. so there was a man who tried hijack a passenger jet and a flight attendant took him down with zip ties. that's a movie with a happy ending so it's a bigger feel, this has been in a block. so glad we are doing this story. his head in his hand, it says it all. i cannot believe i did this, i can't believe i saved the day, he's a total hero and we are so glad he was on that jet to make

sure everybody safely. >> absolutely. heroes live among us every day. people willing to do the difficult things for the betterment of others. as someone who served after 9/11, i guess my first reaction was about those people jumped up and responded. when 9/11 happened, not guns or anything sophisticated, everyone thought this meant it was maybe random, didn't know what was about to happen, do you think this was another display of 9/11 changing how we respond to situations? >> i think so and you are also a hero, thank you for serving our country. honestly my first thought when i was looking at this, i was thinking to myself, the results of the government lockdowns over the year, what percentage of the country is now mentally unwell? look at the data and research,

please had a significant rise in depression, i was reduced in nevada, 18 students committed suicide with for three openings, double the amount of 2019, the youngest student was nine years old, increase in opioid overdoses and alcohol in the country so what percentage of the country is now mentally unwell and what does it mean for the nation both short-term and long-term? we talk about the economy and impacts on education for students and so many other issues, that's one aspect and damage is done by government officials and politicians across the country that doesn't get examined enough i think. >> you are absolutely right. at the end of the day would been locked up we get to travel, maybe not california but i don't know if he was trying to hijack the plane because he kept saying land the plane, land the plane.

obviously the fbi will probably get more information, it looks like he had a mental breakdown more than a plan and i guess my question is, how would you handle the situation if you were sitting back first class for the first row of business class, having a bad day, something like this happens you see this about to happen, do you think he would jump up? >> i be the first one. [laughter] first and foremost, thank god for the hero, the delta employee and flight attendant. he was on spirit airlines, it might have been a different situation because they are trying to get that all the time but lisa brought that up about mental health with covid and lockdowns, it had a cost. there was a cost to it, it wasn't just people losing businesses, people had mental breakdowns, people committed suicide and in this, we don't know if he was literally looking to hijack the plane but these are things we need to consider, what our government put us

through and what the effects may be long-term. >> i'm glad someone reacted. up next, and adorable 3-year-old asked for a birthday cake. will follow dies in the lion kueng. the reason why this is hilarious. next. ♪♪

>> ♪ ♪ ♪♪ ♪ ♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show, this is a morbid birthday cake is going viral. take a look, is a lion king king cake showing where they die, vehicle said that the girl wanted their party just to be sad to lose their appetite and then she would get to eat all of the cake herself. so joe i this is the cake seen around the world for good reason. >> number one, this young girl absolutely will grow up to be a politician. this exactly how they do things. less for you more for me. let me talk you into wanting less.

doctor gavin newsom about that. this is great, shows that she has critical thinking skills at the age of three she's a problem solver and she knows what she was a knows how to go out and get it and to manipulate you. this is a fantastic one. maybe two -year-old daughter her between her megan, i get to see all of the disney movies. so i love it. >> so first of all, can you believe that they had a bakery that was able to do this cake. that lion really looks dead. >> i grew up in the lion king and watching it over and over again of gotta say that this little three -year-old is a strategist and certainly somebody who will grow up be democrat probably. [laughter] >> a near politicizing this. go ahead quickly. >> it is . twisted but i am into it partied about personally, i would have scar on their because he was a bad dude. but also he was a good guy although i appreciate everyone wants more cake.

it is delicious . >> i think she's a smarty-pants. there are two ways to handle this. and they're viral because of it. that doesn't for us. we will see back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. for the sunday show. the fox reports with jon scott starts right now. jon: "fox news" and state department e-mails showing investigators tracing intense pushback over claims that coronavirus might've reached from 11 wuhan theory no gaging getting momentum. and this is jon scott and this is the fox report. the e-mails from early january indicate growing mistrust the state department with a officials apparently divided on how to move forward. meanwhile the department is rejecting claims that the investigation was stonewalled. david reporting l