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been made public including from an expert who warned dr. fauci early in the pandemic that the virus may have been engineered in that wuhan, china laboratory. fauci publicly denied and down played that possibility, i should say, at the time. and there are questions over potential n.i.h. funding of that lab. lawmakers say enough is enough. >> what caused his opinion to all of a sudden shift that dr. fauci has an awful lot of he can planing to do. >> we need an investigation. time will tell if he was bad at his job or criminal content. >> i'm concerned about his back pedaling on the issues and reversing course. it is time for dr. fauci to retire or be fired from this job. >> retire or be fired. former fda commissioner scott

gotlieb says fauci should not have been so quick to push back on the lab leak theory. >> certainly don't think there was anything that tony sent that expressed any ill intent. i think though that some of the discussion went on in the emails evidences that early on the email being focused on is a smoking gun was an email he received from good scientists they felt it could have been an engineered pathogen early on. >> harris: i want to begin with peter doocy and what the white house has to say now. >> the official white house position is that even if dr. anthony fauci made some sort of a mistake last year that affected the u.s. pandemic response, his job in this administration is safe. >> you mentioned dr. fauci again can you imagine any circumstance where president biden would ever fire him? >> no. >> that's exactly what some

critics want. senator marco rubio writes our work to shed light on covid-19's origins has just begun. dr. fauci has repeatedly demonstrated a history of moving goalposts withholding facts that don't conform to his own narrative and issuing personal judgments that distort the truth. biden said i'll choose science over fiction. it's not just fauci who some critics want held accountable. china misled the world and expect new pressure on the chinese government to pay. >> we could work through allies to insure they get sweetheart deals from international financial institutions like the world bank and repeal the favored nation status we gave them 20 years ago and cut off visas. >> we're not sure of any white

house probes figuring out what happened last year. but we know the president plans to meet today with the head of nato. harris. >> harris: peter doocy, thank you very much. texas senator ted cruz says dr. fauci lied to congress and the american people. >> he looked at rand paul's eyes and told a flat out falsehood. a pattern. what he says on monday isn't the same what he says on tuesday but what he says on wednesday will be different. the email dump that came out makes clear that this is not just being sloppy. it is systematic and systematically an effort to mislead the american people. >> harris: i want to know what they are looking at on capitol hill now specifically. jason chaffetz fox news contributor, jason, can you answer? help us answer that question

what they might be looking at and how far you think it could go? could we see fauci go? >> well, he should go. if you lose your trust and confidence in a doctor, then you let him go and go to a different doctor. at this point i think the only reason the biden administration is keeping him is political stubbornness. there are millions of people that have lost trust in this man. there is a serious cloud of suspicion over his head. he should at least be suspended while they are able to go back and look at the paper trail. one of the most concerning things is a very accomplished virologist back in january of 2020 suggested directly to dr. fauci that this may be manmade. and there was an engagement there. fauci and his team there never let on to the world that they were actually looking at this. it has not been fully exhausted and less than candid and what marco rubio and the others are

saying is true, suspend him, fire him, dismiss him, but for jen psaki to say there is not a chance of that happening, that's political stubbornness. >> harris: you are getting to what they would be looking at and you heard scott gotlieb say he called it a smoking gun, the connection point between that one virologist expert and dr. fauci saying look at the lab basically. former secretary of state condoleezza rice had this to say. >> there was too much of a tendency early on to dismiss this possibility of a laboratory leak. and i think there was a lot -- i think the press bear some responsibility for th. while it had to be -- these were conspiracy theories about the laboratory leak and some of the evidence was right in front of our faces.

>> jason. >> the former secretary of state is absolutely right. here you have a virologist looking deeply at the science, actually doing things and looking at how this virus is formed and saying this is inconsistent with a natural progression. that this is very likely manipulated in the lab. this is an email directly to dr. fauci in which he responds. so we know that those discussions were happening but dr. fauci has never confessed to that. now the emails are revealing that that's true. >> harris: real quickly. is there any concern if he just up and quits, he was working on a book. we don't know the latest on that yet. those emails proved to be quite problematic i would imagine. but if he leaves will we still keep looking at the connection point between dr. fauci or do you think that goes away? >> i think you have to. he is but one person.

are you telling me in this entire country he is the only person that can lead this investigation and lead us going forward? no, he is not. he has time to write books and pose for pictures in "vanity fair" and gq and all this. get rid of the guy. nobody trusts him. if you lose the trust it is time to move on. >> harris: let me move on to this. you argue it's a great op-ed in a fox news op-ed that the justice department may be quote, unquote, this is you, jason, the safest place in america to break the law. it has so failed to take action against misconduct by its own employees. the quote. it is becoming more and more clear the d.o.j. is losing the trust of the american people in part because of its unwillingness to hold itself accountable and fully prosecute those we have entrusted with special policing powers. why do you write that? >> the inspector general puts out a quarterly report and i'm one of those geeks that reads that report and sure enough in

the latest report the assistant u.s. attorneys, assistant f.b.i. agents in charge. special agents in charge committing crimes within the department of justice, that's the allegation. they are presented by the inspector general for prosecution and the d.o.j. refuses to prosecute. a pattern of misconduct. let the jury decide. but you know what? when the department of justice wants to come after you or me they do it. when it comes time to go after themselves they refuse to do it. it is sickening. >> harris: you are not only passionate about this. something about this that keeps you up at night. what is it? >> the fact that they have special police powers. they get to decide whether or not to prosecute. when it comes time to dealing with themselves they can't do that. if they want to be held to the highest standard. we give them special powers, then hold themselves accountable and show the

american people that even if you are an f.b.i. agent, if you lie, if you touch an intern's breast on purpose and if you make people uncomfortable in the workplace you will be prosecuted. that doesn't happen. and another report the inspector general puts out those reports time and time and time and time again. we've had hearings about it and it never changes. >> harris: your examples, you aren't just pulling them out of the sky. we'll recognize some of those things that have been reported on that were levied against those leaders, as you say in the d.o.j. and f.b.i. jason chaffetz. thank you very much. good to see you. >> thanks. >> harris: from a critical gas pipeline to the world's largest meat producer cyberattacks are hitting more of our nation's businesses. a biden administration official now says they better get used to it. what? so is the white house planning to actually do nothing about this? plus she has yet to visit our

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her address the root causes of the border crisis. 75 days after president biden gave her the role of addressing the border crisis she has yet to hold a news conference or visit the border. byron donalds say they're not impressed. >> you don't have to go down to guatemala to know what's actually going on. what's going on is the administration's weak policies allow the cartels to make billions of dollars, it's that simple. what starts with this president and vice president. they need to reverse their policies immediately. our border patrol agents aren't monitoring the border. they are essentially triaging people at the border and turning them loose in the united states. >> harris: bryan llenas is live following the vice president in guatemala city. bring us up to speed and i have a quick follow up for you. >> look, vice president kamala

harris is set to meet with the guatemala president to spur economic development in guatemala and northern triangle. in turn guatemala promises to increase border security to stop the flow of migrants toward the u.s. border. the u.s. government also want attention new commitments to guatemala that they'll do more to fight corruption. we visited the second largest city home to the nation's largest slum. 400,000 displaced rural people from guatemala looking for work. 2/3 of the country's population makes just $2 a day. the u.s. has spent $1.7 billion in aid for guatemala since 2010. yet the results are hard to find. >> so what you are saying is that what you need is infrastructure, drainage, roads, schools, you need all of

that. i asked who thought about going to the united states. everybody has. why? money. there is no money. that's the number one reason. >> we got a firsthand look at guatemala's anti-gang and extortion unit. they need tech support from the u.s. to fight ms-13 and other gangs and they're sophisticated ex portion networks are wreaking havoc here. 60% of guatemala businesses are forced to pay the gangs monthly extortion payments and residents forced to pay them as well. those who can't flee for their lives. the private sector is looking to convince u.s. businesses to invest here. we visited a private industrial park under construction. it hopes to create 70,000 jobs providing company space to manufacture and ship products with duty free and zero capital

gains taxes and hopes to be an attractive alternative to china. >> many u.s. companies want to move away from china and don't rely only their supply chains with china. the things that tre they are going to other asian countries and not looking at their neighbors. guatemala is much near home and we have the manufacturing capabilities here in guatemala. >> of course, harris, if you want business to come here they have to have confidence in the corruption. it is at the heart of the problems here. harris. >> harris: all right, so you have a high percentage of illegals crossing our border that are from the northern triangle and it breaks out to include two other important countries and all of their situations are very different. do we know why the vice president all this time into her looking at root causes, 75 days, didn't include honduras

and el salvador and maybe get a clear picture from those countries? >> we don't know why she hasn't gone to honduras and el salvador as well a guatemala. she has not seen the country of guatemala. she landed last night. she is here at the palace. she is leaving today to mexico city. we have seen more of the country and a little how this trip is being coordinated. >> harris: it helped for you to be standing with law enforcement to talk about them dealing with ms-13. a missed opportunity for the vice president not to see some of what our own reporting has shown. great job down there. thank you. t.k. mcfarland joining me now. she worked under president trump. it is always helpful to have you break these things down. if you would just take a first look at what we just learned

from bryan llenas and also the vice president's trip as you see it so far. >> well number one, she is engaging in nation building. it is very easy for american political leaders to say i'll solve the problem and go to that country and write them a big check and they will build their nation and therefore their people won't want to escape and come to the united states. the problem is we're terrible at nation building, vietnam, afghanistan, pakistan, iraq. what ends up happening is the money goes into the hands of the corrupt officials and in this case probably even into the hands of some of the coyotes who are engaged in human smuggling. it never gets to the people. we feel better about it. the vice president will have a great photo opportunity. get back on the plane and head back home but the problem doesn't get solved. >> harris: i don't know if you caught some of bryan's reporting there but important to note he will see more of the country than she will. as i noted the northern

triangle has three places where thousands of people are flowing in every day across our border illegally. don't we want to get to know those places so we can do deals the way that former president trump had different paths with different countries? >> yeah. i think that the important thing here is when you give money to countries to say solve your problem, fix your corruption, they are not going to fix it. the better way to say it was president trump's approach. i won't give you a dime until you solve this problem first and then i'll consider giving you money. the other part that i think simply unconscionable is the humanitarian crisis at the southern border is entirely of their making. they hate trump so much they had to reversal the policies. children being left in desert and they have enabled human traffickers to rule supreme on the southern border and why the vice president has no interest in going to the border.

she doesn't want that photo op with the kids tossed over the wall and doesn't want the photo op like bryan had with law enforcement. it doesn't fit into the woke. >> harris: it will be interesting to see what she accomplishes in mexico. former president trump put some pressure through tariffs and what not to have them keep people in mexico so we could slow down the flow and catch up on all the paperwork and all that we needed to do as a nation for sovereignty on our border. hackers in recent weeks have launched ransomeware attacks on the colonial pipeline. a meat packing. solar winds and commerce secretary says we should just get used to it. >> i think the first thing we have to recognize is this is the reality and we should assume and businesses should assume that these attacks are here to stay and if anything

will intensify and so just last week the white house sent out a letter broadly to the business community urging business community to do more. >> harris: the commerce secretary points out rightfully so that this is here to stay. maybe that would encourage somebody to do even more about it. >> this is like blaming the victim. who is at fault here? it is not the united states. the people launching the cyberattacks in russia, iran, china, north korea. that's where the blame belongs that's number one. number two american industry is a private sector thing. they've got a competitive environment and don't want to spend the money on cyber defense. one of the country's leading cyber defense expert said if you're a corporation it is easier to buy insurance to pay ransomware and apologize after the fact. what is expensive is to make

and harden your cyber networks against intrusion. unless the federal government says you have to fix this problem, private industry isn't going to do it. >> harris: i don't know if this administration has that kind of conversation going on. they haven't indicated we should say whether or not they even knew that the colonial pipeline had paid millions of dollars in ransom money. they paid off the bad guys. and that's information that you certainly want to know. they will keep poking the bear until they poke ut and we're in darkness and no oil and beef. i want to move to this. there is outrage now over one of the most prestigious schools in the country and we want to thank very much k.t. after a new york city psychologist told a yale school of medicine audience about her fantasy. she is fantasizing of shooting white people.

she gave the guest lecture in april but it was posted online last week. here is the piece. >> i have fantasies of unloading a resolver into the head of any white person that got in my way and wiping my bloody hands as i walked away relatively guiltless. like i did a world a favor. >> harris: wow. david lee miller live in new york to report on this. david, what is this exactly? >> most people probably never heard of this doctor until now. her controversial virtual presentation to the yale school of medicine in april might have gone unnoticed if former "new york times" staffer hadn't posted an audio version on the website. backlash has erupted with some calling for the suspension of doctor's medical license, the subject of the online lecture, the problems of the white mind in addition to saying she

fantasizes shooting a white person she offered this description of white people talking about race. >> we're asking a violent predator who thinks they are a super hero to accept responsibility. it ain't going to happen. it is like banging your head against a brick wall. >> the psychopathic problems of the white mind. it made headlines and yale said the statement said it would not release the video to an audience beyond those eligible at the school citing a grave concern about the imagery of violence and profanity expressed. the doctor put out a video accusing yale of trying to make her lecture inaccessible. >> you go to the yale center there is a press release. you know what's missing from the talk? the name of the title of my

talk, the psychopathic problem of the white mind and the creator of that content which is myself. >> she says concern was raised to the school's dean about what she might have said during her talk. nevertheless the event was not canceled and the doctor says her remarks were taken out of context. she says she used and i quote her now, provocation as a tool of real engagement. harris. >> harris: which was it? were they taken out of context or she used provocation and not wanting it held against her. >> that's up to the listener to decide, harris. that's her claim. you can listen to the totality of her remarks and make that determination yourself. >> harris: all right. david lee, thank you very much. a new study finds covid-19 cases are spiking now among teenagers. what parents need to know next. we'll talk with dr. marty makary plus it is being called

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journalism can survive. the onslaught of radical advocacy the times embraces. michael goodwin joins me now. michael, break this down for us and why are you sending alarm bells over this? >> well, harris, on one side you have as you said nicole hannah jones and the 1619 project that she wrote. that seems to be all that she is qualified by. so therefore she would get this chair at unc journalism school. and be really the star of the department. on the other side who is opposing this is a man named walter hasman, he owns a string of newspapers, magazines and television stations in the south and west, chattanooga and

arkansas and the major donator. he donated $25 million. he is in the process of donating $25 million. one of the things he does is 11 newspapers is every day he prints a code of core values. it is about 240 words. it talks about impartiality, fairness, separating fact from opinion and a rigorous fact checking process. his argument and the school has named the journalism school after him. he is opposing nicole hannah jones because she does not represent those values. her scholarship is sloppy. he talks about the problems of the 1619 essay the won her the pulitzer prize and says it is full of errors. he said it would be more identified with the 1619 project than with the code of core values that the school has

promised not only to adopt as its core mission but to chisel it on the walls of the entry. it is a battle of two very different ideas of journalism. >> harris: got it. michael. i'm curious. you said she is identified by the 1619 project which is very controversial. why not add to her resume? i don't understand. it seems simple to fix. why would the school want to be identified with and by her work on the 1619 project? what does it gain from that? >> well, i think that's a good question. but in the woke world, she is a star. and for those who want that kind of journalism, who else would you attract to bring in young journalists to teach them to indoctrinate them in the far left ways of systemic racism, of woke culture kind of socialist culture, a real

racial identity approach to life. she is the leader of that movement in many ways, at least the intellectual or journalist movement she created behind that project. that's her attraction. but for those interested in the standards of journalism, the values of fairness and impartiality, she is poison. and i think that is the clash that's going on there. i'm with mr. hussman. he is sincere about his values and practices them in his own publications and it's the way back for the media to gain the press. >> harris: his name is on the building. please keep us apprised whether or not they will listen to the man saying do better journalism or if they can live without his money. please come back. thank you. >> my pleasure, thank you. harris. >> harris: a california county

has dramatically cut its covid-19 death toll by 25% after finding that some of the deaths were not a direct result of the virus. almeida county's death toll was more than 1600. now just over 1200. all tragedies and heartbreaking. we're looking into the numbers today. dr. marty makary is a fox news medical contributor and professor at the johns hopkins school of medicine and author of the book the price we pay. what broke american healthcare and how to fix it which comes out in paper back tomorrow. dr. mccarey, it is a tragedy. it is important to get the facts right, though. what's happening in almeida county and could we see it elsewhere? >> certainly we'll see it elsewhere. it has been happening in other counties around the country for sure. counties decide whether or not to follow the guidelines of the

state or cdc and how they report cases. i can tell you on the ground it is not collected and reported as neatly and cleanly as everybody thinks. these are sometimes paper death certificates tallied in some areas. i think it has happened in other places but i don't think it has been a systemic problem prior because there haven't been other people in the hospital besides serious covid patients before. >> harris: i want to move to this. a cdc study finds the covid-19 hospitalization rate for teenagers is rising. three times the rate of flu-related hospitalizations. in january the covid hospitalization rate for children ages 12-17 peaked at 2.1 per 100,000 people. it fell to 0.6 in march but then shot back up again in april. why is this happening, dr. >> i think there is a real trend there but i would avoid people -- i would guard against

people making conclusions from some noise in the data on what you consider the initial population. in other words, if you are testing a lot of asymptomatic people or mild symptoms it will change the denominator in what your rate is. i think what's happened is we have seen an increase, there has been outbreaks among younger people and more activity. younger people can't be pent up for over a year. it has been more at large. more contagious, probably more vier leant. why are we getting from march in june? why does the cdc release march data in june? and why don't they put the big headline on it and that is among all of the people who were evaluated in the study, there were zero deaths among young people? that headline was absent. >> harris: are you concerned? that is a very important headline and maybe sub text to that are you concerned at all about what they call long covid or long-term effects? we don't know because they're so young. if they're hospitalized they're

coming home do we know? just quick if parents are concerned about that. >> we see with all sorts of viral infections long, lingering symptoms but it is a small fraction of those who are infected. >> harris: dr. marty makary, thank you. always here to break down the headlines. appreciate your expertise. >> thanks. >> boot licking, subservient. some of the words people are going after the cnn interview with jen psaki. the harsh word one house democrat has for senator joe manchin. he does realize they're in the same party? manchin, the key swing vote was announced on his decision on a sweeping overhaul of the nation's voting rights. some don't like it. >> you will vote against the

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>> harris: senator joe manchin of west virginia, democrat, taking fire if fellow democrats after he made it clear he would

not support the party's sweeping voting rights bill and that he would not back killing the filibuster to get that done. the move all but insuring the measure won't pass. senator manchin explaining his stance in an op-ed, quote, i believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy and for that reason i will vote against the for the people act. i will not vote forweaken or eliminate the filibuster. progressive new york congressman mondaire jones likeened his decision to a dark chapter of america's past. >> it is in the first case intellectual unserious. senator manchin would rather preserve jim crow on some outdated theory of bipartisanship that does not exist in the same way today as it did a generation ago.

>> harris: unserious. power panel. so why play the race card there? >> interestingly enough i think if joe manchin was black they would be calling him uncle tom as well. this is a very interesting place we find ourselves in as a country. senator joe manchin from west virginia, a democrat, is the only person who is looking to save our country from going down a partisan road that's dangerous. the founders, the framers of the constitution gave the power to the states to run their elections and now democrats are looking to usurp that power and provide it to themselves for the point of continuing to stay in power. it is one that i think joe biden with his idea saying he would be a bipartisan president and work with democrats and republicans, which is becoming a lie on its face.

he hasn't made much effort to work with republicans on this issue for any others. thank god for manchin being a patriot and putting country over party. >> harris: we've heard recently from president biden calling out joe manchin and kyrsten sinema of arizona not following his agenda and voting like democrats. what will he do now with those not in step with him politically? >> i was encouraged by joe manchin's op-ed, he is working with senator lisa murcowski. that should get a senate vote in the coming days and weeks. republicans and democrats can get behind the hopefully the white house will turn its attention to pushing for something that can get past the finish line in the senate. hopefully that's something the president will push for. >> harris: let me jump in there because joe manchin isn't like

any other democrat. so him going to the table with lisa murcowski and wanting to work a deal. what makes you think other democrats will support that bipartisan result that might come out of that? not what it's looking like now. >> it's different from hr1. the john lewis voting rights act has support with democrats and republicans. we can take the partisanship out of it. it shouldn't be a partisan issue on the right or left. we should make it easier for americans to vote in this country. >> harris: i want to get to something else quickly a yes or no question. how is joe biden doing? yes or no, doing a good job with bipartisan push ahead or not, kevin? >> yes. as a one-word answer. that's coming as a former biden surrogate so i'll always say that. >> harris: you used more than

one word. >> no, i don't know where did kevin come from today? >> harris: it makes you wonder whether or not he is in it to bring them together. let's get to this. cnn brian stelter is getting mocked for an interview yesterday with jen psaki. here is how it started. >> busy summer ahead? infrastructure, election reform. what does the press get wrong when covering biden's agenda? >> i think some of our muscles have at trough eid a little bit over the last few years. i don't know if it is the press getting it wrong. i'll leave you to the critique of that, brian. >> harris: my muscles are okay as a journalist. i work at it every day. on twitter a newsbusters analyst calling it boot licking. another tweet. what a subservient question. molly hemingway with this.

our corrupt media are nothing more than propagandists. >> i have to tell you, what we've seen the press do when it comes to president kamala harris and joe biden to insure the media protect them and the public view them in a specific light. we've seen democrats would rather -- members of the press operate like democrats are press passes and it is unfortunate. at this time instead of asking what kind of ice cream joe biden might have had, they should be talking about the serious issues uniting our country in the midst of a pandemic. we aren't seeing the seriousness in the press with a number of these media outlets. >> harris: how do you defend the fawning we've seen among some in the media over the current administration? >> i can only defend what i say

on television and not defend what other professionals say. >> harris: what are you watching? it's everywhere, my goodness. >> i'm a democrat that goes on fox news and i watch fox quite a bit. i'll let brian stelter and cnn defend themselves. >> harris: i follow you on twitter. all right, guys, great to have you. i'm teasing. after the commercial break "outnumbered." so many do not know that. there's no expiration date on your eligibility for the va home loan. every veteran, every service member out there if you're thinking about buying a home if you're thinking about a cash out refi whatever you're thinking with a mortgage, you should come to newday usa first. veteran homeowners. three reasons to do a cash out refi right now.

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