>> the media looking increasingly out of touch with ordinary americans after stunning comments after "the new york times" editorial member who calls it "disturbing to see dozens of american flags on trucks." you heard me correctly. she has thoughts about how to trump supporters interpret the meaning. this is "outnumbered." i am kayleigh mcenany and here with me today, emily compagno, harris faulkner, and founder of

turning point usa, charlie hurt. one of the msnbc contributors going out after she said she saw pickup trucks waving flags, suggesting it's a threat to our democracy. >> the reality is here that we have a large percentage of the american population, i don't know how big it is, but we have voters who continue to believe that their rights as citizens are under threat by simple virtue of having to share the democracy with others. i think as long as they see americanness as the same, as one with whiteness, this is going to continue. we have to figure out how to get every american at the table. but how to separate americanness from whiteness. until we can confront that and

talk about that, this is going to continue. i was on long island this weekend visiting a dear friend and i was disturbed. i saw dozens and dozens of pickup trucks with expletives against joe biden, trump flags, and dozens of american flags, which is also just disturbing because the message was clear. this is my country. this is not your country. i own this. and so until we are ready to have that conversation, this is going to continue. >> charlie, you can hear them going, yes. right in step with this absurd commentary. officials, those in the media attempted to categorize conservatives. you look at hillary clinton,

peter strzok, cnn pond and saying, we cannot locate countries on the map and joe biden saying if you open them, you're a neanderthal. >> i think this individual works with "the new york times" and i think she's making way too much. trying to just sound intelligent. a couple of points, symbols matter. a nation has a shared history and culture and tradition. when i see the american flag, i see that flag that was triumphantly and heroically, i see a flag that where we had hundreds of thousands of veterans that sacrifice their lives. i see a flag that has been a beacon for liberty all over the world. it means something similar and different, but the unifying principle is that were made in the image of god regardless of skin color and regardless of

your personal beliefs, but this country has worked because that transcends all of those pre-existing tribalism that we will get back into. the second thing, there is an incentive structure to be mad about nothing at "the new york times." the business model to find hate where it doesn't exist and ignore it where it does. i want to get back to a place where we can agree that flying the american flag is generally acceptable. if someone is not doing that to protect a racial stereotype. >> what is it about the flag that so triggering for people these days? >> i don't know. i would encourage them to go travel. when i go to costa rica, all i see are flags because people are stoked about where they live. people are excited. it's independence day on

july 4th and people are desperate to celebrate independence with friends and family members. maybe people don't equate the flag with whiteness, maybe they have freedom and liberty. she should sit down and have a conversation because maybe her interpretation is different from someone else's interpretation. having joy and pride in where you live, that's a good thing. even though your candidate didn't win, the fact they are still waving the flag says you believe in this country. you also believe in the constitution. one of the first things is freedom of speech and that is what people are doing. people like her would like to be the speech police and take down those flags and reeducate people so they only express the correct symbol. >> if she's in this chamber, i

wonder how much she's traveling outside of her "new york times" editorial board meeting. i was with you in iowa. i was a guest on your show, i've been to many trump rallies. incredible americans of all backgrounds to come and support this for a reason. maybe she needs to meet these voters. >> gosh, you know i adore you. i break with you on this point. i don't think it is hate and fake outrage that's going on. the real hate is coming from her. she is showing you who she is. she hates anyone who is running with that flag. when she looks out, you can disguise it as fear, but we know what real discrimination looks like and what hate looks like. i'm afraid of the other. let's rooted out. we should know that from our own

american history and the fight we had all along. now it's in the reverse. and she saying, you look at the american flag you're supposed to see it a certain way. that certain way better be about the free and the brave because if it's not about that, she's trying to tell us what it looks like and scum of the rest of america. she doesn't know how anybody looks. she sees the flag, she doesn't know what policies they like, she assumes everybody is the same. she paints everyone with the same brush. i think it's very real. talk about the threat of someone who doesn't celebrate, but cannot stand the idea of people who do not agree with her. and her principles. and the people she agrees with. i mean, it's dangerous.

>> she has a history of teaming with a broad brunch. we have a clip from them, you can roll that tape. >> americans in general tend to be good at forgetting history, but tend to think slavery was a long time ago and discrimination was a long time ago. >> i just don't understand this idea of identity politics and putting everyone in one box. i'm a white american. i remember slavery. i'm not trying to brush that away, but because of of the color of my skin i don't appreciate the horrific things that happened to black americans in this country. it seems so scary. >> it's incredible concept to have people who are shouting

from the rooftops, demanding that they not be judged for certain characteristics, that they be given a seat at the table. others were even existing that flag is so much bigger than anything, any comment that comes out of her mouth, perpetuating the divisiveness and racism and other rising she proclaims to be against. it's frightening. she's put back in the fringe element of that party and not given space to take up these horrible parts. she said, we hypocrisy of her putting in the intro that she wants to give everyone a place to speak. she asks former president candidate andrew yang, why have you gone on this show to which dave rubin and many people responded, namely white

supremacist on the report? back up your claims. not just calling people horrible names, coming out with accusations that might have a really severe impact on the reputation. back up your claim with facts. the whole point is she's coming out and claiming that others don't deserve to be given any space to share their opinion. perhaps the reason why they respect and put their hand over their heart, but they stand for the flag, while they pay honor for those who lay their lives down for what it represents. unfortunately she's another hypocrite and frankly a waste of space. >> i for one will continue flying that beautiful red, white, and blue american flag. up next, it doesn't seem like that tough of a question, but kamala harris about asked whether she will visit the border. >> do you have any plans to

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>> vice president kamala harris on her first foreign trip as such to tap on the border crisis sparking criticism and controversy. in fact minutes ago she wrapped up a meeting with the president of mexico. so she is there in the reality is here. axios reported customs and border protection took some 170,000 illegal immigrants into custody last month alone. nearly 900,000 stop since october. and the vice president? here's the message to them.

>> i want to emphasize that the goal of our work is to help watermelons find hope at home. at the same time i want to be clear, to folks in this region were thinking about making that dangerous track to the united states mexico border. do not come. >> does she realize her bosses new policy, basically an invitation to quantum? they should talk. they went after her for not visiting the actual border. >> the reason i'm here in guatemala, my first trip as vice president, it's because this is one of our highest priorities and i came here to be here on the ground, to speak with the leader of this nation around what we can do in a way that is significant and i will continue to be focused on that

work. >> she continues to get depressed about when she will actually go to the border. 76 days into it. where the president has put her in charge of the crisis. >> do you have any plans to visit the border. >> at some point. >> we are going to the border, we been to the border, this whole thing about the border, we've been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border? >> and i haven't been to new york. i don't understand the point you're making. i'm not discounting the importance of the border. >> why do i feel sad when she doesn't understand the border that separates the next nation? >> what a bizarre answer. i don't think she was appointed to be in this crisis.

>> of course not! i don't understand the deflection. when you are a leader and you're put in charge of something, you can assume, you can delegate, you cannot delegate responsibility and this is a very important thing. she has to take responsibility. that requires visiting and listening, you want to know why republicans all the sudden won a mayor race with 85 hispanic town? because kamala harris and joe biden created this crisis by repealing donald trump's policies and working with the countries, and now the voters who were traditionally democrat, they're saying, you're not even visiting, you're acting like this is not a problem. that is the untold story. it's manifesting in a very

serious way. democrats are all the sudden seeing move. i'm just taking back. all you have to do, don't focus in the eye and say i don't care, it's not my problem. >> kennedy? >> she has not appointed that, she has to go to the border because that's a very critical element of the crisis that this country is facing. and that mexico is facing. her diplomacy is lackluster, she's an unserious person. she's a cackling pantsuit and she reinforced that image when she couldn't anticipate one of the most simplest questions. let them know, you hear them. let moms with babies who are trying to crossover, let them know you see them. why don't you visit these kids? their policies are what is

incentivizing parents from places. to send their children unaccompanied with coyotes who seem to be the only one who are benefiting. it's a multitiered crisis. she's an unserious person who is incapable of handling a war on several fronts. >> it's like how best to hurry up and mistreat people and treat them like cons and your game coming from the south. you know the people are going through a mighty struggle to get here. some of them getting harmed along the way, raped, the cartel putting bands on them like animals. i mean, it's a living hell and they are being treated like pawns in a game.

vice president says don't! what is this? >> of course now you have the el salvador president, guatemalan president and mexican president put blame there. but first, with regards to her comments, credit where credit is due, well done lester holt for asking the right question. just to review for the viewers, she's been asked, what are you going to visit? her answers were not today followed by a cackle, at some point we will go, i'm not going to engage in a grand gesture. and now i haven't been to europe, which is the most curious of all. it seems to me she might have nevada. she wants to be the commander-in-chief and follow joe biden to europe and she seems to have more interest with meeting with the queen then caring for the kids. the kids she once said were

humanitarian abuse victims, but now they're laughing matters and pawns in her game. >> the president does refer to her on occasion as the president. maybe she's confused. emily? >> the fact that she said and her city speech that her physical presence they are denoted the message of what a priority it was and how important that issue was for her shows exactly why her physical presence is so lacking, why it's so monumental because it's exactly right, it sends a message where her priorities are. i want to point out her blanket hypocrisy. she tweeted "say it proud and clear, everyone is welcome here." and in march 2019 when she said, i disagree with any policy that would turn americans back on people who are fleeing. i believe it's contrary to

everything we have symbolically and said we stand for her. i guess things look different when you hold the vice presidential position. final point, i hope my advice president, the first in line should something happen, would actually be able to take those questions, would take something with empathy to see a situation and have the grace, the intellectuals, to field something without getting rustled and defensive and having inappropriate answers. it worries me when she's put in a true hot seat. not just across from lester holt. what her actual response will be. it will be sorely lacking. >> if you don't have a puppy, bring the cookie. i just wonder, you alluded to

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without a male relative, and executing people accused of crimes and putting their bodies on public display with impunity. somehow the congresswoman still drew this comparison tweeting, "we must have the same level of accountability for all crimes against amenity. we have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by the u.s., hamas, israel, afghanistan, and the taliban." kennedy, she also wrote in posting this video, she said "i asked secretary blinken where people are supposed to go for justice?" she said "we oppose the international course, so she seems to be asking, where the right venue is for the people to hold the u.s. accountable for "unthinkable atrocities alongside hamas on the taliban." >> she has such an unsophisticated view of policy

that i have a hard time taking her seriously. she's also someone who downplayed the terror. if she's equating united states with hamas and the taliban, i'm assuming in her warped world that somehow a compliment. she should worry more about some of the ethics questions about her husband at a campaign, taking a billion dollars and giving it to her husband's consulting company. she should worry about ballot harvesting in her district. and if she wants to talk about u.s. foreign policy, she needs to stop elaborating in such vague terms. if she has a specific critique or point, i'm sure the secretary would be moderately happy to hear it. >> charlie, this is a congresswoman who has equated the 9/11 terrorist attacks on this country has "something that

happens." and she's equating the united states and israel with the brutal -- terrorist resumes. your thoughts? >> i wonder if the taliban but take people like ilhan omar in, probably not. america has a tradition of accepting refugees from across the world and when i look at her and she attacks america, a country she sworn on the constitution of united states to have loyalty to and defend, that except her retirement of of need, then she criticizes that same country, where is your gratitude? you think hamas has it within the ethos -- i don't want to call them a nation, but terrorist group to bring in the downtrodden from across the world? she turns around to the country that normally accepted her family and gave her so much opportunity, then to condemn

that very same nation. that's one of the most reprehensible things. have a slight amount of gratitude and understanding for the nation you are in. >> speaking of condemnation that charlie brings up, in a way no one should be surprised by this. this is par for the course. where is the rest of the party? where's their condemnation of their continued comments that for some reason we find so horrific? >> it didn't exist when she came out and said bernie sanders is going to and western imperialism. 9/11 she described the perpetrators as some people who did something. she wouldn't vote for a armenian bill because it was criticism of america. of course she talked about her professors, she kind of made light of that. so much for this country, i have to wonder if you are a service

man or women, to be compared by your elected official, you put your life on the line every day for this country, it has to feel really bad and really demoralizing knowing best represents you. >> i come to you for the journalist angle. i saw an article that said "she is no marjorie taylor greene." i proceeded to dissect why the threat and the horror is actually in the latter versus the former. i wonder why she keeps getting passive from the media which keeps telling us to not take what she says seriously even though our gut tells us differently. >> look at the leadership. those who have access, nancy pelosi, where ilhan omar was elected to serve, they don't speak up and because they don't she become somewhat of a sideshow so they don't have to

answer the questions like, what is happening with the violence in america? can we go congressperson by congressperson and talk about defunding the police and get honest answers. you know ilhan omar came from a refugee camp and she has seen things that are honestly hard to even imagine in terms of suffering and fear. so chicago is on fire right now with shootings and children are getting caught up in the spirit we will continue, say his name. look at what is going on to this country, our major cities, democrat ledge cities, she keeps not just the nancy pelosi's, but others from having to go out there and fix the stuff that's going on. >> that's absolutely right. hopefully there will be some accountability and it starts right here. bring it to light.

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inseparable elite. charlie? >> this doesn't surprise me. it started with the pronouns. this is a thing. now i guess you have to atone for some alleged racial privilege you have. it's so unhealthy and so destructive and that's this critical race theory and all of this very misleading racial conversation. my question is, how are we supposed to deal with the next variation. there is no stopping this. i'm 6'4", do i have height privilege? the driver is people unable to have, to deal with what they think is guilt and they want to tell the world they're sorry for something that they didn't do because of how they exist. >> it sounds like a whole lot of attention getting from people who are supposed to be in these positions. she has an important job. why does she need to light

herself up like this? it's narcissism. she is focused on herself. >> she's had an impressive journey and when i hear about her story, i want to hear about the time she was told no and she believed in herself. and she persevered. this has been a boys club for a long time and she broke a very important feeling. she's actually diminishing her own worth and accomplishment as a woman, by trying to appease, god knows who! it detracts from it, takes away from it. those aren't the kind of stories i want my daughters to hear. i want them to hear about people who have been an environment where they knew they could succeed. what are the magic ingredients that got her there? >> great question. emily? >> first of all, the first time i emailed myself was college and

i had in my signature a short quote which at the time i thought was amazing and i still do. is this really how you're going to use your email signature to convey the level of victimhood that you are casting on someone else or the privilege you have? as a federal attorney when i represented the government and we were fielding different lawsuits on discrimination, the question was, how would we know what boxes you presume to check yourself in? we don't care. the commonality, what you might say is the most important thing, i don't care what you want to put out there. >> i understand a trend here, it's like, they want to represent the whole of whatever they look like, which is ridiculous. i don't speak for all black people and no one here speaks

for where you come from wherever you come from. you don't speak for everybody. only yourself! >> you are exactly right. i will be brief and leave you with this. a great point from a psychology professor, if she is ashamed of her race, maybe she should resign. >> we should end the show right there. i'm kidding. a quick programming note now, coming up on america reports, a big win for a teacher in virginia who spoke out against the new transgender policy. a judge ruling her boss violated the rights to free speech and freedom of religion when they suspended him. he will share his story next hour. first, right here on "outnumbered." it appears the woke mob got what they wanted. was this like the dog catching the jar?

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>> a report from one of our national laboratory suggested it originated in a chinese lab, so why did they ignore it? investigating the lab joins us ahead. former u.n. ambassador nikki haley is calling out one corporation for turning a blind eye to human rights abuses while sponsoring the olympics. a virginia teacher tanner cross gets a victory getting his job back after saying he refused to use transgender pronouns to address students. john roberts joined sandra smith at the top of the hour for a jam-packed "america's newsroom." >> the office start breaking her silence after old photo surface showing her participating in a debutante ball years ago with an organization that once excluded black and jews." >> i decided to participate in a

debutante ball, a century-old organization that hosted the debutante ball had an unquestionably racist, sexist and elitist past. i was not aware of the history at the time, but that ignorance is no excuse. i acknowledge that because of my race and privilege i am the beneficiary of a system that has dispensed unequal justice and unequal rewards. harris, just last week we were discussing the story. she didn't apologize and now she appears to have caved to the mob. >> you and i are mothers. one is it okay for our children to make mistakes? i know she was 19. everyone matures in a different edge. i'm wondering when we are allowed to make mistakes, acknowledge them and move on. she said it was not enough to say she didn't know those things, but somehow she was supposed to miraculously know? but yet, they have a job as

governor of virginia. and we have elements, pictures of him and we have two options. we can either believe in his yearbook, or he was the one there. he said he wasn't in blackface, i guess we assume the other. so i'm just wondering. why don't we give everybody the benefit of the doubt? what is the line of delineation on one that starts and stops. i'm curious. tell us the rules. >> you raise an excellent point about double standards. he's an msnbc contributor i want to put up on the screen. he says this he apologized for participating and an event that integrated a year before she was born, by that standard were going to do a lot of apologizing for association of choice. he went on to say this, "she

apologized for participating as a teenager, an event that integrated before." this is the same one. let me read it here. do you know anyone who was chose in a southern state? what if you live in an area redline due to roosevelt's era policy? if so, collect your apology now. your thoughts? >> that's right. it is the incredibles. one everyone a special, no one is. is that the same for cancellation? when everyone is canceled, no one is canceled! chris harris and, sharon osborne, the guy who is married to nick cannon, i was going to say mariah carey. i remembered his name. when you cancel everybody, or are all freak where sure mark piggybacking to blame when

people first off they didn't know, a debutante ball, 18 and 19-year-old, across the country! it was a slightly different less annoying time. she should have given the explanation, and then stop short of the apology and then said, everyone calm down and go home here goodbye. >> chris harris said was fired after he did apologize for defending a girl for being naive when she wore the antebellum dress. when the apology wasn't good enough, he was canned. i read this from a twitter user. "i regret reading that apology, let the left each other alive." >> it's hard to disagree. i'm waiting for the office to get canceled. i encourage every person to go watch the diversity day episode, season one with steve carell.

you will see how much america has changed in 15 years. if that episode aired today, every single writer, producer and actor would be canceled on the spot. she might get away with this one as this apology, but they will not stop. that is the way this works. the point that was made about the changing of rules is exactly the definition of tyranny. what you do not know the rules, and people who grew up in the soviet union wrote extensively about this. they change day-to-day and it gives the power to the loudest voice in the room and the person who's willing to delete and cancel people, that's what were seeing right here. >> that is right. up next, out of this world experience for amazon founder jeff bezos. the country's richest man is about to go where no billionaire has gone before.

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♪ ♪ >> billionaire jeff bezos announcing one heck of a way to unwrap his rival, tesla ceo elon musk. he plans to fly on the first crew flight of the rocket ship made by his base company blue origin. the flight is scheduled for juls set to resign as ceo of amazon. elon musk has yet to fly on one of his own space rockets. kennedy, your thoughts? >> i think the competition between these two will do more for space exploration and humanity than anything ever. it's a sausage swinging contest

between two billionaires and we will be the ones who reap the rewards. >> all also the soundtrack of coldplay, charlie, your thoughts? speak of the story that came out this morning that shows that jeff bezos didn't play income tax for a couple years, i don't know what income taxes as soon as you enter the deeper of our alexander universe but he's a very, very wealthy man and it's incredible to see how much his network has gone over the next year. if you have the money to be able to potentially visit the outer reaches of our galaxy you'd probably pay a little more in taxes but that's a conversation for a different time. >> it's a good one. >> kayleigh? >> i just hope that while jeff bezos is handing out in space his paper "the washington post" get some modicum of journalistic standard but i'm not holding my breath. >> i thought kayleigh was going to say, we will find out if the

bird came in from space. can you line them with a love that's what i thought you were going with that. i'm with kennedy, if it drives space exploration, i love space. i think that's great. whatever it takes. >> as someone who had posters of neil armstrong on her walls growing up i say i'm all for it. thank you to everyone and now here is "america reports." >> sandra: fox news alert and right now, vice president kamala harris at mexico city at this hour to discuss what the white house is calling the root causes of president biden's border crisis as she's not only facing criticism for avoiding a trip to the u.s. southern border but also a backlash now within her own party for telling migrants to not come to america. >> john: we will have much more of this, lera logan a little later on in the program, extensive reporting from the border and we will also here today from