tune in tomorrow or fox news sunday host chris wallace local 11 secretary of state antony blinken an exclusive interview with his predecessor, former secretary of state mike pompeo. catch fox news sunday 2:00 p.m. tomorrow on fox news channel. saturday june 12, 2021. i'm jon scott. see you tomorrow. ♪♪ >> this is life, liberty and living. i'm glad you're here. we pride ourselves in america being a nation of laws. we have this beautiful constitution of the united states. we have something called due process, all kinds of systems in place to protect the individuals

from government especially a rogue government. what happens when that government becomes a criminal enterprise? what i mean by that? what happens when a district attorney the city or attorney general in a state use their power to advance a political agenda? politicians as a as prosecutors. what happens on a prominent individual is focused on an entire political party including prosecutors? that will we want in america? are used to seeing that in the soviet union modern-day russia under putin? they are used to seeing that in communist china and other totalitarian regimes of what i would like tell you that's happening in the united states of america as i speak? we don't chase down defeated

candidates or even victorious candidates. we don't chase them down to punish them, destroy them and make sure they can never have a political career again for any kind of career. that's exactly what happened to former president donald trump, virtually no attention nationwide. virtually no outrage, civil libertarians which haven't been around for the last five years, still aren't around. corrupt media we have in this country, don't get the suspect coverage will i thought we would spend tonight's program doing exactly that. every single one of us has a right to counsel. every single one of us at the heart of our justice system in our justice system, we protect that counsel and the advice the council gives the client, we protect the material the council collects, we protect the notes, we protect it all.

always the individual, you, me, a citizen, even noncitizen cannot get fair representation in our justice system so we have rules like client religion, attorney work product, confidentiality case law that surrounds all of it to do what? protect this, all this information to the government can't get specifically, investigators and prosecutors. otherwise what are we? a totalitarian regime and yet, for one man in this country, donald trump, it doesn't seem to matter. does he have a right to counsel? doesn't have counsel have a right to attorney work confidentiality to protect the client in this case, donald trump. michael cohen, one of donald trump's previous private attorneys, is a criminal. he's pledged to be a criminal, he spent time in federal prison, he is a criminal and had a plea

deal and wants to get even with his former climate client donald trump. an argument, donald trump attorney client privilege rise, attorney work product and confidentiality went out the window. that's not how the system is supposed to work, is it? president trump has faced a criminalized political system that never wanted him elected and never wants him elected again. he was investigated as was his family and friends in his campaign. patrons and so forth under the mueller investigation. when it comes to donald trump and his family and organizations, they found nothing. internal revenue service has been auditing the president and his organizations endlessly year after year.

the vast media in this country with all its investigative reporters, 99.9% targeting this president and his circle, they haven't come up with the thing. although the president taxes were leaked to the new york times so nobody seemed to have much of a problem with that. and this investigations, democratic party investigations led by chairman from places like new york city, massachusetts and california and they've done everything they can, subpoenas and investigations and hearings. empty. came up with nothing. two unconscionable impeachments. including the fbi and intelligence agencies and i could go on and on but that's not what i'm trying to say the. there to democrats. elected democrats with long-term political history on behalf of the democrat party will have enormous power, one is a

prosecutor in manhattan, the other estate executor in albany trying to destroy donald trump and his family and his organization as i speak. first, five past junior because his father was secretary of state under jimmy carter. he resigned because he was unhappy carter was too much of a hawk. we have a washington post article that says they've convened grand jury, a grand jury to do what? potentially invite the president? district attorney cyrus convened a special grand jury to hear evidence about potential charges is investigation is a tough organization the washington post has learned, to anonymous sources, the newspaper reported the grand jury has begun to meet recently, didn't specify a start date.

were investigating trump more than two years. the grand jury subpoena for the former president returned august 2019, grand jury and the prosecutor just so you know the facts which successfully fought up in the 2020 election. during that time, suggesting insurance, tax, all focuses of his probe. in other words, they are on a witch hunt. washington post described the pope as extensive saying it's focusing on trump's business career before he ran for president and you notice the leaks from the prosecutor's office. then the daily mail, what is going on? a long list of things in the mail from the prosecution's perspective. jennifer, the former daughter-in-law of the president chief operating officer of the trump organization, as a former because she divorced the cfos son, she's all over the place talking about how it's got to be

corrupt and so forth and so on. apparently she's being interviewed by her ex husband, managed skating rings for the trump organization and paid for his grandkids pricey private school. big deal. former trump organization executive, flipped on the former president getting all the gossip, all the in the weeds, which we get all the time, we got with the other bony scandals they tried to create and now it's full bloom because it's what prosecutors do. i want you to know a little bit about cyrus. i don't particularly is this upstanding ethical prosecutor, just my opinion. is an elected pack democrat. let me give you some samples

from your post. new york police department secretly recorded disgraced mobile harvey weinstein apologizing for growing admitting he was used to behaving that way according to a bombshell report, the incriminating audio clip posted online for the new yorker magazine reveals weinstein alternating between desperate pleas and angry threats as he tried to get gutierrez, an italian actress in downtown manhattan hotel room to the cops had the goods, they had to record it. they exchange reportedly took place inside the hotel one day after he allegedly grabbed her breasts one time finalist italy contest in march 272015, the two minute recording that the nypd have and gave to the prosecutors, heard directly accusing weinstein of manhandling her saying why

yesterday you touched my breast. what advanced did this take? he refused to prosecute. refused to prosecute weinstein and in many reports new york, they drew the connection, weinstein's lawyers, as reported by several sources later donated to the reelection campaign so early on he did nothing about weinstein even though he had a recording. what else? is a piece from the daily caller again reemergence of epstein, what could this be about? billionaire financier jeffrey epstein was charged with running a sex trafficking ring making him another high-profile case manhattan district attorney office. december 2018, the new york post reported they believed epstein's lawyers who claimed in 2011 that there are no real victims here,

deputy chief of cyrus sex crimes unit requested a manhattan judge in january 2011 to change epstein's status in the offender registry for the most dangerous to the least restrictive level one. according to the post manhattan supreme court justice ruth said i've never seen the prosecutor's office to anything like this. after many cases much less troubling than this one where prosecutors never make a downward argument like this. when asked by the judge as to why she was asking for the classification downgrade, the deputy disclosed she never actually wrote to the florida u.s. attorney who dealt with the investigation into epstein, the judge said i don't think you did much of an investigation here. i am shocked. they can't do enough investigating of donald trump.

one prosecutor made a mistake told the post who claimed they are not aware of the hearing until many years later. that sounds like bull baloney to me. what else? there's more. in an interview cnn, evelyn yang, wife of democratic presidential candidate andrew yang said while she was pregnant with her first child in 2012, she was sexually assaulted by her ob/gyn at columbia university, shows one of dozens the doctor allegedly assaulted. now she and 31 other women are suing the university in 2020. its affiliates and the doctor for allegedly concealing and enabling his misconduct for decades. she eventually joined an open case manhattan district attorney's office against the doctor and found at least 17 other patients made claims against the doctor and while the

grand jury indicted the doctor on multiple charges in 2016, the das office reached a plea deal with the doctor to which he pleaded guilty to only two of the nine charges against him, one count of forcible, another count of third-degree sexual abuse. the doctor lost his medical license but did not go to jail. the das office, the same attorney criticized for failing to prosecute harvey weinstein for misdemeanor sex crime in 2015 and asking a judge to reduce billing or pedophile jeffrey epstein sex offender status in 2011. ladies and gentlemen, i got much more here. manhattan d.a. spent $250,000 in funds on fine dining, first-class airfare, luxurious hotels, secret trips across the country, he lived high on the hog and the city newspaper

reports spending over a period of time, and other other district attorneys would go to paris and other parts of the world and so forth and notice nobody investigates him. this is the district attorney, i said there's a lot more taking off after trump and his family and his business. i'll be right back. ♪♪

want to bring in the university of tennessee law school, professor reynolds, you heard my statement. what you make of this, what you make of the focus on trump and democratic stronghold what i'm saying is clearly the criminalization of politics. >> absolutely. i wrote a book quite a few years ago called impropriety on the substitution of criminal law and regulations for politics and it's only gotten worse since then it's weird, the democrats trump, they think he's a loser and unpopular and yet they act like they are deathly afraid of him. they impeach him, the election

was over and now you see prosecutors wanting to wage what we call law fair against him to neutralize him and keep him from running again and also many outsiders trying to come in as trump did and disrupt the system they are going to be punished for doing so but it's a bigger problem than just trump but they are absolutely milking it. we have a weird thing the system, i had a piece recently, they say a prosecutor indicts a ham sandwich because they control the grand jury as you noted and that is right, when you deal with the police officer and all kinds of due process protections the supreme court has given you when you're on trial in a court, you have due process protections but the single most important decision in a most every criminal case is when a prosecutor decides whether to bring charges and

what charges to bring and prosecutors are unaccountable for that. they have absolute immunity even if they add bad faith for corrupt reasons. they are not regulated by due process, they are very free and it's enormous amount of power for a prosecutor to have. grand jury is meant to constrain that but grand juries have evolved in such a way that they are basically tools and a prosecutor which is what gave this any competent prosecutor should be able to indict a ham sandwich. mark: this prosecutor is highly political and things a great deal of himself so we have a supreme court ruling that allows him to go through eight years donald trump through his organization, he's putting pressure on according to local reports on his chief operating officer, putting pressure on his family members trying to exploit the divorce between his son and former daughter-in-law looking

into giftgiving to a private school. gift giving to pay tuition payment. the supreme court really has opened up a can of worms, hasn't it? the d.a. is all over this country, you have attorneys general and state throughout this country and if it's the position of the supreme court that these local elected prosecutors, free to look into a president pack under pretext of looking for something or middle, i think we've done a horrible way here. >> the truth is, if a prosecutor decides to go after you, they're probably going to find something. three a day, that's how they felt the average american commit crimes without realizing it. a law professor at columbia used to work for the federal

prosecutor in new york at the southern district in the used to play a game where they would pick a famous person, mother teresa or jon lennon or whoever, the game was to figure out what you can get on them and you got extra points if you picked your statute like false pretenses on the high seas or obstructing mail, there was always the same, jail time. they have tremendous resources and collocated and technical, they can make almost anyone look bad if they are given free reign to do it. it's not like the old days where we would find professor plum dead in the conservatory and start looking around to see who had access to the leadpipe that hit him in the head, now is just he seems like a bad guy, let's see what we can find on him and that's certainly with trump here we want to talk about eight years tax returns for massive corporations that has billions of dollars in transactions and everybody knows including the prosecutors that your hiring to

work through his massive internal revenue which is purposely complex because there are easy ways to collect revenue without a code like that and at the end of the day, many of these ceos others, they sign these tax returns and help they are correct. it's not like we can all go to school and learn every aspect of the tax code so it particularly pernicious focus on that, don't you think? >> it's funny because you were counting one example that says i can't be held as possible for what my office does, i didn't even know about it and in essence, that's what you're describing as a criminal charge. holding somebody liable for something that happened lower down in the company they probably didn't know about. mark: the son and to take information from his ex-wife,

the son of the ceo or coo of the trump organization and you start pressuring plea agreements, this is a sleazy underbelly of the prosecutor's office. >> it is and impropriety which is old now, we talk about going after cisneros, the prosecutors went so far as to try to get a claim of mortgage fraud against the housekeeper as a way of pressuring her into testifying against him and while that's deeply unethical, is extremely common for prosecutors to put pressure on friends and family and employees and acquaintances to get them to talk and what they say on that pressure may or may not be true but it's with the prosecutor wants. mark: it's interesting, joe biden and his wife made their tax returns public and i looked at their tax returns and others have collectors did and they found something interesting i'd

like you to comment on when we come back. they set up to corporations named multimillions of dollars, flushed the money to the s corporation so they cannot be viewed as employees as they basically gave beaches and got money for species and writings and so forth for the sole purpose of evading the medicare and obamacare taxes. nobody is looking at that, nobody is investigating that, nobody is even commenting on that it's a serious question whether it legitimate or not. i'd be interested ine your inpt when we come back. ♪♪

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p.m. eastern for all new fox report. now back to life, liberty and the vent. ♪♪ mark: professor minutes, anna opposed to prosecutors and criminal laws, people being prosecuted for violating laws like if they are going to ride and burn down homes and beat cops and do stuff like that, i get them all for it. what i do not support is decriminalization politics of these tactics against one individual in this country. i mentioned briefly joe biden tax returns, do think local prosecutors in delaware will take a good look at the biden tax returns? >> i'm unqualified to offer tax opinion but it was surprising how small a/that made but the rest pretty much drives the narrative not interested in

putting a bad narrative at least not right now we went the gap between investigation and actual prosecution but these prosecutors have a free run of the field. the 1 yard line all the way to the goal line. the opposing team. is there anything a citizen can do or try to do to defend themselves? you look at new york, it's a one party state. one party judges, the one party elected prosecutors, one party attorney general, the new york bar which is extremely liberal, i don't think a single one of those entities would be empathetic to former president donald trump so what does one do? >> at the risk of sounding sad and cynical, move somewhere else. former president trump can do, he started moved to florida for they are after him anyway for an ordinary citizen, resources are a lot less if the local

prosecutor goes after them, you are at risk and probably that off living in a place where local prosecutor is more likely to be sympathetic or at least not antagonistic. this is certainly what they want for trump to do keep your head down. they want you not to draw attention : not become a public controversial figure, they want you not to draw that kind of assault. if they don't convict you of anything, the process is the punishment being investigated, being subjected to possible criminal liability stressful, expensive and i would be happy to have a loser pay in the criminal law where if you're investigated or charged with a crime and you win, they have to pay your legal fees out of the budget. that would encourage a more humble approach but that's not want to happen. i think as a citizen in general what you do is call them out

when they do it and criticize them and make them feel bad because they are political actors, they are elected but more importantly i call politicians and certainly most prosecutors, they are full of evil and want to be liked and admired for at least beard and be mocked and called and being called political thugs and being told what they're doing is wrong and un-american is painful for them and they should hear they do things that are wrong and un-american. prosecutors have a tough job, everybody understands they have to make judgment calls but on the other hand, a lot of times it's obvious what's going on is not just a judgment call and when you go out and say we don't know what crime but we are going to investigate because we don't like them, that's what happened here. mark: as i listen to you, something comes to mind. as a great debate on immunity for police officers. not in my mind but in the mind of others, apparently and

limited immunity, not total community. what about a debate about immunity for prosecutors? prosecutorial the is. you and i sit here, we are relatively intelligent, with been around the block for 5000 times, we look at this and we're struggling to figure out what an innocent citizen can do when confronted with a prosecutor and the answer is, not a lot. it's not a federal case we have a supreme court decision but even that is limited. these are local and state prosecutors and it appears to me if you have a prosecutor and they are elected and want to take you down or take you out or my are you in years and years of expense of litigation and push off to the corners here and not face for anything anymore, there is little you can do so maybe we ought to have a debate in this country where you want to talk about immunity, abuse let's talk

about immunity and abuse when it comes to these operations. the attorney general in new york's operation. there are many others. thank you for coming on and i want to thank you for all you've been doing over the years. the original internet i used to go to and i go through every day now so thank you. take care of yourself. we'll be right back. ♪♪

the attorney general has an interesting past, was radical both of the state and local levels that i wanted to inform you, america, who she actually is. there's a great piece in the washington times and he says the

new york attorney general leticia james ran for office in 2018 on a campaign promise to charge then president trump the crime. she said i believe the president of the united states can be indicted for criminal offenses. she said and campaign clip she announced last week, a few weeks ago that she moved her inquiry to the trump organization the he found a civil matter to a criminal matter. campaign record shows she but on the former president of crimes such as money laundering and how to use the power of her office to vanquish them. once elected, she immediately opened an investigation of how the fifth avenue headquartered trump organization and real estate empire that is money and then and she's relying on testimony from michael cohen who is a criminal. once the presidents oil attorney pleaded guilty in 2018 and a taxi kat business obtaining mortgages.

before the 2018 new york democratic primary at a time when special counsel robert mueller was in his second year trying to find a trump conspiracy, put herself in the same campaign as mr. mueller and elevated him as a star witness. the president has to worry about three things. mueller, : tish james. we are all closing and. the hard-fought september primary for the campaign video in which he said she was running because i will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president. her anti- trump manifesto is being carried out today on her page. what are they looking at we looking at tax issues laundering issues and this and that. brett tolman was a gross attorney, fantastic prosecutor, the founder of the tolman group they wanted to ask, when you

have a person like this running for office hard left and makes it abundantly clear in my view she's a political hack, one of her targets and focuses if elected will be the former president now of the united states. is the ethical? use herself and get nobody raises a voice? would you say? >> you are right. i think about what justice said in the supreme court case, he said a prosecutor could be aggressive but a prosecutor was a servant of the law and could not strike thou low. this is the essence of striking a foul blow, target someone before you have facts in front of you, push for prosecution. a prosecutor wields the most powerful authority that we give

to any member of the government. the ability to take away someone's rights and i never thought -- i wrote an article about confucius prosecutors and their many and accountability is an issue but i never thought i'd see the day when you could write an article about a prosecutor who basically got into office on the notion they bring a case before the have looked at any facts or have any referrals for investigative body, that's scary to me and should be scary to the american people. mark: i don't know, if i were a judge handling this case and attorney general's office came into my room, i'd raise the question because i'm an officer of the court and also have the obligation under code of ethics under new york, i would raise the question of the judge, it doesn't have to be presented but i see it in the newspapers and i

hear, why is your office even in this courtroom? how can you even prosecute this case? how can this be fair? how can there be to process? get out of my courtroom. if i were a judge, that's what i would say. what do you think? >> you would be a terrific judge. hopefully you don't judge like judge philip, we start to see the judiciary politics starting to play but there are still the good judges and notwithstanding politics but first level of analysis on this, why is your office involved when you have indicated you can't be impartial? a prosecutor is supposed to be just as willing to decline a case as they are to bring a case and that's not the case in this because they built up such hatred for single individual in the white house and such clinical animosity that they would be willing to compromise their own ethical standards and hopefully a court would see that

and say exactly as you did an even more, sanctions should be leveled against any office trying to bring a case to indicated before they had any evidence before them they intend on bringing. mark: we'll be right back. ♪♪ to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means... grabbing a hold of what matters. asking for what we want. and need. and we need more time. so, we want kisqali. living longer is possible and proven with kisqali when taken with fulvestrant or a nonsteroidal aromatase inhibitor in hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer. kisqali is approved for both pre- and postmenopausal women, and has extended lives in multiple clinical trials.

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u.s. attorney former federal prosecutor, founder -- have to ask, didn't the supreme court through the doors wide open sign of abuse of a power there are tens of thousands of local prosecutors and thousands of state prosecutors. i think they made a grave mistake. what you think? >> the dirty secret in the criminal justice arena is the production the prosecutor has from real accountability and the supreme court has expanded immunity to such a degree that it's very difficult to bring any case against a prosecutor even in there's considerable abuse but even more than that, i think about the fact that prosecutors are largely able to avoid even in their state being monitored

supervised by the state bar, you look at department of justice prosecutors and the only way can bring in ethics claim against them would be for exempt institute themselves in terms of the public at large, especially individual targeted has very little ability to bring accountability to a prosecutor willing to compromise their ethics in order to get some success and that's what we see happening, a win at all costs mentality and politics drives their investigations. mark: it seems to me these elected left-wing democrats who are just as prosecutors, there needs to be way, this is something i think the nation needs to know, hold them to account for them to be deposed of criminal on what certain decisions they've made. for them to have their personal

finances and careers on the line when they make decisions about when they do this or not, it's abundantly clear for any objective person, any affected person that they are targeting this former president, trying to sound him and ruin him and his business. that's what's going on. internal revenue service the united states, is constantly on so there's no big issue and i'm sure they authorities or consummate auditing his taxes and what they are doing is pressuring the family members of the chief financial officer, ceo of the trump organization, directing him, threatening his son, explaining his ex wife, dragging and tuition payments made for the children in private school, in other words, this is petty stuff you're talking about a former president of the united states and this smells like tierney and the so-called

libertarians are sitting on their mouths. how do you see it? >> i see the left has been willing to pick and choose what they want to follow especially when it comes to the constitution rights under the constitution. the first amendment for example, they care nothing about circumventing the first amendment, they want to control the media and the voices we listen to and now they are willing to attack the sixth amendment, due process which has perhaps been the most important to protect us from abuse by government when they wield the power to deprive us of our freedom. i look at this and think we can no longer have the faith and confidence that executors feel they have sacred obligation under the law to do justice and justice always bring a case against an individual because

you like or dislike them grade justice, if we recall the mandate for the department of justice, it's that you are supposed to have fairness in the administration of justice requires consistency. we do not consistency. we see one political side being attacked and prosecuted while the left escapes accountability and that's how we know we need to adjust the criminal justice system especially if we want confidence going forward, that those rights under the constitution something. mark: well said and those judges, the members of the new york south, they don't need complaints filed against these prosecutors to take steps to take action. the integrity of the judicial system in the city of new york and state of new york is disgrace right now when you take a high-profile case like this

and you hear and see what the impact manhattan district attorney is doing in this left-wing unhitched democrat prosecutor attorney general doing and the fact that so far they've been able to get away with it shows me a breakdown in the judicial system in the city and state of new york. brett, i want to thank you very much for your great work as u.s. attorney and for coming on the program as well. god bless you. ♪♪ >> we'll be right back.

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so we know how to confront them. i believe there is a movement building in this country ever bit as big as the reagan and tea party revolutions. we need to counter and pushback. this is a fantastic country. we don't judge each other by race. we are red-blooded yanks. see you next timing on "life, liberty & levin." [♪♪♪] jesse: welcome to "watters' world." i'm jesse watters. did you ever date somebody for a while and you have a break up you realize the whole relationship was fake. everything she told you was bull. all your big moments