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and aoc. >> and, abby. >> yeah, guys, an out of this world prize for an out of this world trip. a huge bid for a flight to space. >> but first, president joe biden using the world stage at the g7 summit to call for access to the wuhan lab to help uncover the origins of the coronavirus pandemic. >> we haven't had access to the laboratories to determine whether or not -- i have not received proof because our intelligence community is not certain yet whether or not this was the consequence of from the marketplace of a bat interfacing with animals in an environment that caused this, this covid-19 or whether it was an experiment gone awry in a laboratory. we have to have access. the world has to have access. >> and as the g7 wrapped up, world leaders backed up biden's call writing in a communique,

quote: a timely, transparent, expert-led and science-based w.h.o.-convened covid-19 study as recommended by the expert report. but is that language strong enough against china, and why didn't this happen sooner? florida's governor, ron desantis, calling out china's cover-up earlier on "sunday morning futures." >> i tell you, this origins of covid are, this is such an astounding cover-up, one of the biggest cover-ups we've ever seen. what they did with the gain of function research, understanding that these researchers had been infected in the fall of 2019 if then to cover it up for months and then to not view that as something that's of utmost important to be able to, one, get the truth, but then to hold china accountable, to be that deferential to china, i don't think that's what the american public is looking for. i think that they want to see a

policy from the united states that's more assertive against china, that understands china's a threat. >> sean, i'd like to begin with you because you know a thing or two about politics and timing. and my question is why now? it's not like all of this is brand new information. this is something the trump administration was warning about and discussing and largely blown off by the main stream media. >> not only was trump talking about it, he and mike pompeo were investigating the origins of the lab leak or the wet market, and joe biden shut down that investigation, right in so i think the narrative is changing, more information coming out which means joe biden and world leaders have to change course and say they want to investigate. alicia, here's my concern, the group that's going to to lead this investigation is the w.h.o. who's in the pocket of china. if they lead the investigation, we're not going to get any results, any truth, any scientific basis of their analysis.

if we're going to look at it, joe biden says he wants to go to the lab, actually the chinese have cleaned the lab. we need to talk to the employees of the lab. we need to talk to the three scientists who got sick as ron desantis mentioned in november of 2019, they had covid-like symptoms. we want to talk to them. when you talk about the cover-up, we need to talk to anthony fauci. what did he know, when did he know it, but also what taxpayer money did apt a few if chi -- anthony fauci direct to the wuhan lab. these are all questions i think we deserve to know, but going to the w.h.o. is not the answer. >> and this is something the secretary of state addressed today with chris wallace on "fox news sunday." let's take a listen. >> we need to get to the bottom of what happened. we need accountability, but we also need to understand what happened, why it happened, how it happened, if we're going to be able to put in place the necessary measures to prevent it

from happening begun or at least to be in a better place to mitigate the next pandemic if we can't fully prevent one. >> guy, when we're talking about the idea of transparency and china is an invest that's going to be -- the heart of it will be in their country, how much can we even count on anything that comes occupant of it, if it even happens in. >> we can't rely on it almost at all, especially if it's done by the w.h.o., to sean's point. earlier today also the secretary of state, secretary blinken, referred to the last w.h.o. investigates, and i just want to put that in air quotes, investigation into this as highly deficient, was hi quote. i will be -- his quote with. i will be far less diplomatic. it was a complete joke. i think everyone understands why the chinese choreographed it, put limitations and restrictions on it, they wouldn't allow access to crucial people, documents, and now you got blinken saying that was highly deficient and the president and

the g7 leaders saying, well, let's give them another crack at it, the same organization. and why would that organization, that is deeply compromised by china, actually give us the truth round two of this? i think that is laughable. and this is the one last piece i'll say. we saw this statement, we saw some words and some verbiage about we need access and this is important. my question is or else what, right? >> right. >> what incentive does the chinese communist party have to actually play ball and be transparent for the first time on this and actually bow to the pressure if there's no consequence attached to it? like, they're still on tap to host the olympics next year, this big, juice, you know, international event -- prestigious. there doesn't seem to be a credible push to strip them of that. i think beijing might say that's very nice, we're going to throw it in the garbage, and then what? nothing so far, that's the problem. >> and, abby, i want to bring you into this conversation, but first, i want everyone to take a listen to what the president said today when he was pressed

on the g7 language on china and whether or not it was strong enough. take a listen. >> the final language in the g7 communique does have some mentions of china, which is different from past years, but i know it's not as tough as you and your team wanted it to be. why isn't it as tough? there isn't very much in it. >> i know this is going to sound somewhat prosaic, but i think we're in a contest not with china per se, but a contest with autocrats, autocratic governments around the world as to whether or not democracies can compete with them in the rapidly changing 21st century. i think there's plenty of action on china. >> abby, when you hear him say that especially when he ends with plenty of action on china, i mean, i can't think of anything that he could be referring to specifically, can you? >> i can't. obviously, none of us were in that meeting or will be in that meeting. but, yeah, i can't imagine that

there is anything especially just the way that he's talking. look, biden is a career politician. putin said it himself. he's built this persona that he's the friendly grandpa that will invite you over over, but n it comes to they that and russia, you need to flip into maybe that stern grandma who maybe might -- grandpa that might poke you with a fork if you put your elbows on the dinner table. i think it creates whatever optics you want it to. whether or not he backs up his words and language with actual actions, that's yet to be seen as this presidency unfolds. >> sean, what are your thoughts on this? is this all flex and no muscle in. >> well, i don't think joe biden's going to do anything with regard to china, to abby's point. but what he has done has kept a lot of the tariffs on china that president trump put in place.

that's a positive, but how do you back it up? is he willing to take further steps to economically punish china? will he go another step further than trump to make sure there's consequences if they don't cooperate? i don't think he will. the clip that you played, alicia, i know you wanted it harder and tougher and you couldn't get it. and he never said, yes, i did want it tougher, he basically brushed that off and paid homage to autocrats as opposed to democracies. >> and, guy, you know, you probably remember peter doocy a while back asked the president about a possible punishment if it is found out that can china is, in fact, responsible in that lab for covering things up. and there really wasn't much of an answer. how impressed were you with this answer? >> it wasn't really an answer to the question. and i get they have to hold this close to the vest potentially and say there might be consequences down the line, we don't want to tip our hand yet,

but i would like to hear more about why the pompeo-era investigation by the u.s. state department was scuttled and ended under the biden administration, why do they want to punt it to the w.h.o., it seems like they're going softer, not tougher. and china's behavior over the last two years on a number of fronts, i think, is egregious. and it sort of belies what we are seeing from the biden administration now. they're going in the opposite direction in terms of rhetoric and substance, and that substance is still very much a question mark, i think to put it charitably. >> from president trump colliding with russia to dismissing the coronavirus lab leak theory, the media says one thing, and the truth is the opposite. we examine why the media gets it so wrong when "the wig sunday show" returns -- the big sunday show" returns. ♪ tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies. ♪ tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies. ♪ oh, no, no, you can't disguise

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media lies saying: the truth usually merges not because of the press, but despite it. the full list includes, of course, trump colluded with russia to hunter biden's laptop, to dismissing the coronavirus lab leak theory. that was some really cool jazz music coming into this segment, you guys, i couldn't help but laugh. >> i agree. >> alicia, you're the resident reporter in this group, but isn't it a simple lie that's taking a place, or is there something far more sinister happening in newsrooms around the country? >> i think it's really unfortunate that i think there's something that's gathering steam, and it really began with president trump, when he started to run on his campaign. it's that when a message starts to gather steam and it starts to go, questioning anything that goes against that narrative is if it's inconvenient, it doesn't make it into the story. if it doesn't make it into the story, there aren't follow-up

questions to cast doubt on it. and it's incredibly convenient to call the former president a liar. no one really questions that. and, actually, to one example that made my mouth drop when i saw that the washington post in an opinion piece said that the lab leak theory will never vindicate trump and ends their statement saying having a serial liar embrace a theory hardly lends its credibility. the messaging here, can you blame us for not doing our jobs? >> right, exactly. don't blame "the new york post" for false reporting. guy, it seem like all these stories are big in nature, and they all go against president trump. what impact does this on the credibility of newsrooms across the country? >> oh, the credibility of newsrooms is in a state of crisis, and i think a lot of it is self-inflicted and deserved. it's not good for the rel. public, it's not -- republic, it's not good for the country.

here's the issue, people make mistakes. you'll get things wrong, but sean, i think i you hit on it, time after time after time these mistakes cut in one direction, right? you rarely saw a mistake go the other way. and that starts to get with suspicious. and it's a pretty obvious answer here. most journalists, especially heat media in the new york, d.c., they are progressive democrats. they root for a team, they play for a team, they're activists with media credentials. that's what they are. and those who admit it, i'm all for. those who sort of pretend that they're something else ask they go out there and present themselves as unbiased, i think that's the real problem. and i'll also just say this to alicia's point. i think where you start to get into even more dangerous territory beyond just traditional bias that's been with us for a long time, now when you have this strange alliance -- maybe not that

strange -- between traditional media and big tech where information that is deemed to be wrong or against the narrative and, therefore, misinformation or disinformation is actually banned even if some of that the information turns out to be viable or true. and we talked about this a little bit on the show yesterday, hunter biden's laptop story that was censored, the whole issue about the lab leak theory. the list goes on. that's another level that get orwellian when it comes to bias-trust censorship. >> i want to ask abby about that because usually the media will tell false stories usually about republicans, but republicans could go on social media is and get the truth out there despite the media. now big tech uses the fake stories in the media to censor the truth on they platforms. so -- their platforms. so how do you actually get the truth out to the american people in. >> i'm not sure, sean. i'm not sure if big tech will ever be held accountable, and that's what this is all about,

lack of accountability on big tech, on these news organizations who did get this wrong because this can completely change the course of an election, it can change the narrative in the country, and this really exposes a journalistic crisis. i mean, this is not about trump necessarily, this is about journalistic integrity. it's something that we have been suffering as maybe the advent of social media, there could be a lot of reasons for it, but i think people are trying to get out the story fast, trying to play to their own narrative x it's coming to the detriment of the american people as a whole in how they interpret stories. >> before we move on, give me your top false story of the ten that good one wrote about. alicia, you go first. >> really think the wuhan lab is the big one. >> guy? >> i have to agree. a global pandemic that's killed millions of people and a viable, realistic theory of why it started, how it started was verboten for months. >> abby? >> i gotta say the wuhan lab as

well because we're seeing so many sources coming out saying, of course, i mean, where was the common sense when this started? >> you guys are all wrong, it was russian collusion, okay? [laughter] that was a year and a half story that undermined trump's credibility and undermined his presidency -- >> a five-year story. >> you're right. anyway, good discussion, you guys. up next, democrats were divided but now they're united. coming up on "the big sunday show," nancy pelosi and aoc team the up to defend congresswoman omar. is all this politics? that's up next. ♪ ♪ hey, mom. i'll never say this but... - thanks for telling me everyone 12 and older is eligible for the covid-19 vaccine. - thank you for loving me that much. - thanks. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein

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handled congresswoman ilhan omar's comments comparing the u.s. and israel to terrorists like the taliban. listen here. >> we did not rebuke her. we said -- acknowledged that he made a clarification. congresswoman omar a valued member of our caucus. she clarified it and we thanked her for clarification. >> so do you want people to just let it go? >> they can say whatever they want, but what i'm saying is end of subject. she clarified, we thanked her, end of subject. >> oh, okay. i guess it's all oaf them. ing -- over then. and in a somewhat rare move, aoc is siding with pelosi. >> i believe that her comments were absolutely mischaracterized. to assert that she was equating these two entities when she was speaking about the icc investigation in which all four parties are are being investigad for instances of war crimes, you know, i believe to assert that

this was equating these two, i believe, was not -- it was not a generous interpretation whatsoever. you know, as speaker pelosi said, we are putting this behind us, and i believe that we will ultimately come together as a caucus. >> yeah. just a big misunderstanding. she did lump us in, the u.s. also israel, with the taliban and with hamas. and she led with the u.s. in the list of people who had committed unthinkable atrocities, is what she said. so, sean, i want to go to you on this first because we touched on this subject on yesterday's show as well, and there's an angle here that i think is interesting. there were a handful of republicans, house republicans, who voted along with the democrats a few weeks ago on marjorie taylor green and stripping her of her committees based on some pretty outrageous things she had said before joining congress. republicans said, well, hang on,

we were willing to hold our feater account, it's your turn to be consistent and apply some issues here or at least apply some ramifications to a member of your own party, do you have the courage and consistency to do so, and i guess we got our answer loud and clear. >> the answer's heck no. but i give those eight members three cheers for consistency, good for them. clarification, and to point of your question, the tweet was calling out the u.s., hamas, israel and the taliban as terrorists. there's no need for clarification. the tweet was crystal clear itself. and you might get to this later, but i want to bring this up. ilhan omar sent out a retweet of the international solidarity movement, right? this is an anti-israel link that's been linked to a terror group, right? and so what's happened since january 6th, just to put this in contexts for you guys, democrats felt threatened by republicans, so they put up metal detectorses outside of the house chamber and

make everybody walk through. how do you think the jewish members of the house now feel with ilhan omar retweeting an israeli hate group that's tied to terrorists, how safe do they kneel in the house with her in that -- feel in the house with her in that chamber? the democrat party has, on the extreme ends, they've become anti-israel, anti-jewish, and i think when you look at the jewish violence in america, it comes back to the apologists in the democrat party for hauting israel and hating jews. yeah, well, there are some very awkward conversations, i would imagine, or glances in theway around capitol hill, and i think the anti-israel sentiment, unfortunately, is growing with the democratic party. not just with their base, but with members of congress as a well. and this is why pelosi wants to get past it as soon as possible. she and aoc singing from the same hymnal.

oh, no, we're done here. and, actually, alicia, on that point, i kneel like if this were an intra-republican rumble, the media loves this. they love strife within the gop, and you'd be getting pointed follow-ups. this story would be kept alive, i think, by journalists and reporters, and they wouldn't just be able, the democrats, to get away away with waving their hands and pretending they had some "kumbaya" moment because there are some underlying tensions and problems here. is the media going to do the same job here that they would if the partisan roles were reversed? i have a suspicion. [laughter] >> yeah, i don't think so. i mean, that sound bite that we played with nancy pelosi where she said three times end of subject, end of subject, end of subject -- >> stop asking. >> yeah. i don't want to talk about this anymore, did you hear me, let me say it one more time. however, the people who she wants to take the signal from aren't just the people of her caucus, she wants the media to

move on. and it will be interesting to see if those in the mainstream media take this cue and decide to move on to something else. because this isn't a comfortable -- this is an uncomfortable moment for democrats in the house. this is very difficult. and when you have representative ocasio-cortez saying her words were mischaracter eased? how were they mischaracterized if she then had to clarify? and nancy pelosi even complimented her for clarifying. so these two, while they're both trying to say it's time to move on, they don't even have their message straight. >> and, abby, we all had the pleasure this morning of joining "fox & friends" weekend with sean's wife, rachel, and company. and one of the most eyebrow-raising wrinkles in my mind is hamas putting out a statement thanking ilhan omar for her support of palestinian issues but also saying, hey, don't compare us to the u.s. or israel because, in fairness,

they're a terrorist organization, very different values. your reaction to them. >> well, i said it this morning too, i think the most mind-blowing thing about this in general is the fact that u.s. congresswoman and a member of the foreign affairs committee has now drawn the attention of a terrorist organization. for hamas to address a tweet, i mean, i just, i find something extremely unsettling ant that. and it goes back to the whole conversation of what exactly is i'll hand mar doing for her party, and what is he doing for the american people? why is the democratic party protecting her so much and her comments, the comments that she's made now not once, not twice, not three timeses, but multiple times where it's raised a few eyebrows. and just to go back to what sean was talking about the, how she retweeted that video from the international solidarity movement, that was one day after she released this controversial tweet. and for those who don't know a what ism actually is, i know

that you had mentioned they've been linked -- investigated for links to terrorists, but also by the adl was deemed in 2010 to be one of the top ten anti-israel organizations. so the fact that someone in congress is doing this is just -- i don't have the answer, and i don't know if we'll ever a have the answer. but like you guys said, i think nancy pelosi just wants to move on from it because she knows what a big eshoo it is. >> and a huge blow-up in 2019 over something ilhan omar said, anti-semitic tropes, and that ended up being the democrats circling the wagons around her. so the score seems to be ilhan omar 2, nancy pelosi 0. we'll leave it there for now. meanwhile, violent chaos climbing in blue cities across america. and while some vandals tag statues with anti-police sentiments, deputies saved a woman's life by lifting a car off of her. quite a juxtaposition, isn't it?

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quote. it's from an nypd source to the new york post. this person telling the post: the perps run this town. it's gotten so bad that daylight doesn't scare the bad guys. you live in new york city. do you back this up? what's it like to just walk around there? >> i do live in new york city, and i do back it up. i mean, i have an app that tells me every time a crime happens in my neighborhood, and that alert has been going off nonstop, more so than it ever has. and i've actually walked through washington square park multiple time, and i can just confirm that these things are happening. it's a scary thing, i don't know when people are going to start paying attention to the correlation between the rise in crime and the defund the police movement. i think you put up the stats there. between april 2020 and 2021, 2600 new york cops retired. that's a 45% surge. and there's a reason why.

it's because these men and women in blue aren't getting paid that much, they are risking their lives, leaving their families for no credit which they're not doing it for the credit, but nobody even seems to care. and they're getting berated left and right. i watched a video are from washington square park, a man berating an asian cop, and he's trying to film it the whole time. the cop played it cool. we saw another instance where a cop pulled over a woman who was text thing and driving, and right away she gets out her phone and she's yelling at him you're never going to be white. i mean, the hate and disrespect for our law enforcement officers and, to be quite honest, the law as a whole is really dishearten, and if we don't fix it soon, we're going the keep seeing this rise in crime and homicides. killing innocent bystanders and young children, 18 months old in georgia, and a 1-year-old.

this has got to stop. >> i want to continue on what abby was talking about when she was kind of focusing in on the retirement tier because at the same time cities and departments are seeing a lack of recruitment. the recruits aren't showing up. where do you believe municipalities even try to begin to build up their police forces at this time? >> they need to show support and have the back of the police force. why would you ever stay on a force or join a portion to where the political powers that be in that city or jurisdiction are act ily -- actively loss still toward you and they're not going to have your back in situations where things happen, right? there's an importance for accountability. i'm in favor of police reform. but i also thinking being aggressively or reflectively anti-cop is dangerous, and you're seeing an exodus in a number of these city. you look at poll after poll across these countries, even in

places, there was a poll in portland, oregon, and they asked people do you want to see the same amount of policing, an increase in policing or a decrease in the number of police in your community. and the overwhelming majority if, i think it was 80 plus percent said we want the level to remain steady or increase. only a small fringe even in portland said they want to see police defunded or even decreased. so the question that abby posed was will people make a connection between the hostility of the police and the element, a long streetlight with a democratic base, defund the police and only of the rising crime rates. and my answer is if the republican party cannot make that connection in the voters where these are happening, then they should just stay with politics. i think it could be a potent issue next year. >> and, sean, that poll out of portland, oregon, folks know the

importance of police and hero cops. and just before we finish with this discussion, let's put up some of this video from oakland county, michigan. would have -- you have a sheriff's deputy who lifted a car off of a woman. we have heroes out there. we have so many heroes, and i would like to remind folks of the name of boulder police officer eric talley, a hero who stopped the mass shooting that was underway in march of this year at the king sooner's in boulder. officer talley was killed when he confronted the gunman who eventually killed ten people. but, sean, it's so important for people to remember who else is out there on these forces. >> yeah. there's good people in law enforcement, i was a prosecutor for ten years, love law enforcement. but weshed look at a broader problem. you do have more balance in cities when you defund the police, but people should still behave well, right? what's happening with liberalism

in america we don't teach morals or values or to love thy neighbor, or we don't go to church anymore, and we don't have those beliefs any longer in a society. you get this kind of really bad behavior and violence. and so, and i believe this works, if you commit a crime, if you punch someone in the street the, you knife someone, you shoot someone, you don't get out on bail, you go to prison for a long time. and even the bad people, they'll stay in line because they don't want to go to jail. pretty simple principles. >> this conversation will continue. thank you. a lot of people wonder what keeps our leaders up at night. former secretary of state mike pompeo just revealed his biggest worry, and it may surprise you with. that's next. ♪ every time i hear that song -- ♪ i go back, i go back ♪♪ are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®.

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♪ >> hey, everybody, welcome back to "the big sunday show." many american voices are being silenced especially on college campuses, and that's a huge concern for former secretary of state mike pompeo. he calls the threat to our first

amendment a dangerous to our democracy. take a listen. >> i get asked all the time what keeps you up at night, none of that scares me as what's happening on our university campuses. common sense about how to treat everybody or fairly and equally. >> yeah. so, abby, i want to go to you first. pompeo, right, a because when you talk about censorship of speech, if i can get that out of my mouth, these are future ceos and corporate board member. what does this mean for the future of america? >> you hit it on the head, i think about your nine children, whatever they're learning in school. i know you guys are a wonderful family and are teaching -- >> thank you. >> -- at home as well. but, you know, they are our future. and so when you silence someone or you say, you know, you criticize them for what they believe, that's a dangerous precedent that you setting. and we've seen that freedom of

speech doesn't necessarily apply evenly across the bore. my mind -- the board. my mind goes to a video we saw of a 19 -year-old boy, or man, i should say, he characterized a police officer as a hero, and he was slammed by his professor. and then you have the psychiatrist giving a lecture to the yale school of medicine and saying that she's fantasized about killing white people. i mean, this is a narrative that we're really kind of teetering on being very, very dangerous, and we have to address it now, we have to learn how to move forward as a society and promote unity rather than separating people based off of their skin color, based off being an oppressor and really figure out what we're going to do moving forward. >> yeah, no doubt, i think this is dangerous. and joy reid, msnbc host, had a tweet and said: open question to those afraid of critical race theory which isn't being told in

k-12 schools. you're clearly conflating it with the 1619 project. ma do you want taught about u.s. slavery and racism, nothing? already learning confederate race theory by joy reid. wow, guy, give me your reaction to that tweet from joy reid. >> i mean, i think almost literally every single thing in it was incorrect. [laughter] you know, maybe joy reid, she'll claim that she was hacked again. here's why i think what pompeo said was important. because even a few years ago folks might say, well, he'sing being dramatic. and the excesses on this campus, it's a weird foible, it's sort of a side story. and a lot of conservatives said when these kids get into the real world, it's going to be an awaken for them. but the reality the real world is being reshape by them.

it's being exported into corporationses, into the u.s. military, of course into our politics, our media in lower downgrade levels of schools. almost every coroner of our -- corner of our society is being infected with this wokeness, so i understand where pompeo's coming from. >> yeah, i have two kids in college, this is happening on campuses. alicia, your thoughts. >> it's happening in high schools in big cities as well, i definitely see it here in the city of denver. >> right. >> also in the last segment we were talking about a shortage of police officers. there's also a shortage of teachers. how would you like to enter into this profession in this climate right now? this is a dangerous path that we are going down at this time, and it's only going to hurt our kids and all of our future. >> it's our job to -- ideology, time and time again, that's the only way we beat it. up next, an out of this world experience for an out of this world price. next, how much dough one space tourist will pay for a ticket to

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it sure is good to see you. ♪♪ >> welcome back to "the big sunday show." a seat on a flight to space will cost $28 million, that's the winning bid for the ride that's set for july 20th. >> $28 million, what a day. what a day. wow. okay, well, we cannot wait to meet our first customer. they're going to join jeff bezos and his brother mark on this historicking flight. it is going to be an experience of a lifetime. >> what a day, is right.

that might be an understatement. here's how that ride break down, by the way, 11 minutes at $28 million. that's a whopping $2.7 million per minute. that's an absurd amount of money but maybe well spent. alicia, i want to go to you first. we see people spend a lot of money to meet influential people, so do you think this person bid that much money to actually go to space for 11 minutes or to sit next to a man who's worth about $194 billion? >> probably jamaica buddy to pay for a new buddy, but also the 11-minute experience. i wouldn't spend any money on this, because i have to put a bunch of kids through college, so i have money needs to be spent elsewhere. but, yeah, there are three words here that stopped me from even thinking this was a good idea, and that was inaugural human flight. i know that they have done this 15 times without anyone in it. the first time with people?

i'll watch with. [laughter] >> i guess we can count alicia and sean out, but, guy, how would you spend $28 million? would you buy this flight? >> how about i get the 28 million first, and then i'll start thinking about it. [laughter] i don't think i would probably -- look, it's cool. i know i've got friends who are space nerds, and this is all great, and they're all very excited about it. this is not at the top of my list, and not to be too lame about it. it doesn't interest me that much, and there is that risk factor. i don't care who i'm sitting next to, bezos or anyone else, when that thing -- i'm beside myself with nerves, i don't think i would enjoy it. so so maybe give me the cash, and i would give up the seat in a heartbeat. go to space if that's your thing, not interested here. >> you guys are crazy, i would for sure do this. sean, i once bid on a used film camera on ebay, and those last ten minutes were probably some of the most stressful ones that aye been through --

[laughter] not actually, obviously. >> abby, did you get it in working order? >> yes, i use it. but i'm wondering, what do you think that last ten minutes of bidding was for this personsome. >> i think it was $28 million for a couple weeks now because i did -- oh, since monday, it was $28 million. this is a trip with jeff be. jeff bezos -- bezos owns "the washington post," the purveyorover some of the most fake stories over the last four years, and he's also the owner of amazon to who puts small companies out of business. for me, i am not spending 11 minutes with jeff bezos. that dude -- [laughter] he says fake stories -- >> you could berate him for 11 minutes. >> i have no interest. someone else can do it. not me. >> guy, you got 11 minutes, what would you talk to him about? semi-quick here. >> i'm not going on this trip. [laughter] i'm not interested.

i am out. it has nothing to do with bezos. >> all right. well, you know, i'm going to just stand true that i would personally go on this trip. i would love to. i'm a huge adrenaline junkie. i'll let you guys know how it is. i might need to borrow some money though. all right, that does it here for us, >> the border crisis, still showing no signs of slowing down , despite sweltering heat and humidity in the region good evening i'm john scott and this is the "fox report." >> migrants continue to pour across our southern border. customs and border protection visit detained 180,000 migrants just in the month of may and it expects the trend will continue into the summer despite the extreme heat. here is a live look at the border from our fox flight team drone over