>> harris: fox news alert as rising violent crime across democrat lead cities is serious political issue now for president biden. now the white house appears to blame the trump administration for the surge. this is "outnumbered" i'm harris faulkner. emily compagno and kayleigh mcen knee in studio.

fox enterprise reporter and expertise -- and fox news political analyst, lawrence jones. great to see everybody today. the map, let's go to the wall, shows the playing of violence reaching across america. these are the cities where shootings took place just last weekend. some of the victims include young couple targeted in an ambush attack in chicago. we want to warn you the video we are about to show you is graphic. you can see a mob surrounding their car. police say the husband was shot and killed. his wife critically wounded. all of this after a dispute over a minor traffic incident. video from new york city an attacker repeatedly stabbing

a -- they haven't found anyone to arrest so far. the white house refuses to blame this on defund the police movement or riots for the spike in crime. >> there has been a rise in crime over the last five years. really the last 18 months. the president feels a great deal of the crime we are seeing is a result of gun violence. you can expect he will speak to that. his commitment to continuing to address gun violence and gun safety in the country. >> harris: i want to take this down to a purely political level now, bear with me on this. kayleigh, i am going to come to you on this. this is a break in philosophy how we see to fight crimes. democrats and republicans are very different. the name i pointed too, brooklyn borough, former republican, former cop of 22 years. his vision for the city is moderate. that matters all eyes on new york now.

>> kayleigh: yes my prediction is he canner prevails for that. crime in the streets is key. there is a rise in crime. if i can stay on the political side i want to address what we heard from the white house podium saying this has gone on for 18 months. that's true. if you rewind to a year ago we talked about rising crime from the podium. we acknowledged that, we acknowledged why. as they deflect blame to president trump, they should take a inward look. we stood at the podium in june, at a time when violent crime is coming down, if you defund the police, you will see a rise in crime. we called out new york, minnesota, and l.a. what do you see, rising crime. joe biden needs to take a inward look. joe biden dismantled the trump policies of saying you can't tear down monuments, not prosecuting 50% of the writers

in portland. that's responsible along with defunding. >> harris: lawrence we see bail reform and recidivism. not everyone but it's stark numbers and a real problem that. also is a burden on the system. >> when this start the out it was to be equal justice under law. it was suppose to look at different failures in the bail system, criminal system at large. that changed. many criminal justice reform advocates need to be honest. i'm one of them. my first job was in a juvenile court room advocating for young people. the message is so far from the equal justice clause. it is about making sure everyone is on back on the streets, getting rid of prisons in

general. when i look at the video of the little girl yesterday who shielded her brother, is that where we are, kids have more humanity than us. one of the things we didn't discuss is that perpetrator caught up in gang violence, by the way, tried to use children to shield him from the gunfire there. are no more codes on the street. what happens now, harris? you know what will happen the pendulum will swing so far to the other side, because people have had enough. if you made the argument months ago that if it's just the cities don't worry about it, i'm sorry it's coming to the suburbs too. it's everywhere. to kayleigh's point about the change in talking points from the left when i make this point i started to travel, do reporting on the crime three years ago for the fox news channel. democrats told me, over all crime is down. now we see the seeds sowed back

then by george who wanted to refund, redescribe our pugh a system. system and got people back on the streets. they don't believe people that are a risk to society should be behind bars. that's what our jails are made for. >> harris: it's the dichotomy we see in politics. they literally see things so differently in public safety, republicans and democrats. >> i'm glad lawrence brought up the activist. i want to go back to the biden administration addressing gun control. this is the first instinct when their bad policy is failing they go after our rights, specifically the second amendment rights. that's the go to, instinct,

solution. i'm most concerned about, i do believe the pendulum will swing, i believe americans are disgusted with the biden administration, democratic mayors who allow the lawlessness. >> if democrats know how to do anything better than anyone else it's to use chaos to push for control. i hope americans realize this is a product of defund the police movement, product of bad public policy, bail reform, it's not a product of our second amendment right. i hope americans understand that. democrats will absolutely use what we see in the streets now to push more gun control. we need to stay vigilant on this front. >> harris: we're about to see the president of the united states deal with something he didn't want to talk about on the campaign trail, tomorrow. if they want to put it out this is going op for quite sometime. they didn't want to talk about it leading up to the election. when you look at president biden's past on criminal justice, he don't want to have

that conversation. he has to have it now. people are asking folks, how does it feel on the streets? we're finding out that north of 70% say it seems things are more dangerous. more than 50% say it's more dangerous where i live. you can't ignore it. particularly in democrat lead cities. i want to get to this, we had on joe last hour. let's go to him and emily, i will go to you. >> when they talk about defunding the police you're talk ing about an increase in violent crimes in the urban communities. that's what has happened. you know who is impacted the most? statistically the black and brown communities. they're being murdered in our streets. >> harris: emily, you have joe saying this and lawrence saying this before. it's not staying localized in the cities. how do we know that? recruitment is down across america. the push against police is not

localize today zip code. it's spread to everywhere. if you don't have more cops you have more crime. >> that's exactly right. keep in mind the conversation we had the last four minutes as well as joe's comments earlier that's more comprehensive and more nuance than we can expect from the president tomorrow on his national crime prevention strategy as we wait with bait the breath with what he will come out with. keep in mind no amount of tax dollars in the world, no amount of over simplification in the world will make a difference if the prosecution isn't working. >> if crimes are not being prosecuted and from are not consequences with convictions we will get nowhere. you have heard me talk about the ugly statistics on this couch from activist --

just quickly to lawrence's point about meaningful justice reform. criminal justice reform. i'm an advocate as well. i have spent hundreds of hours in prison. as we see everything den and state it totally wipes out the progress from a prior administration for actual reform it takes us 020 steps back because the streets are on fire. the liberal media paints it as mass shootings. they want to support the agenda of anti-lawful gun ownership and antipolice. they want to support those rett ricks. because they're painting it with a broad brush rather than the community violence, the anti-cop violence, the gang violence we see here.

>> harris: quickly i have a legal question. i can go to both of you. the law and how it works. if i'm a citizen and i know they're not adjudicating the cases, right. i know the criminals, suspects, are not being looked at in a manner to make us feel safe, justice is not served. can i sioux? i sue. >> you ten to have immunity if you're a government figure. no, is my answer. i don't know if emily has a different answer. it's happening at the federal levels too. it's the biden justice department that is not prosecuting 50% of the portland rioters. it's federal level as well. >> we saw lawsuits of ad vocation of duty for government officials. unfortunately the rulings were diemed moot. it had to do with orders from government officials and the like. >> harris: interesting.

>> in the criminal realm the recourse is recall. >> harris: you need that on the booms. books. we have to scoot. casey abrams is open to a voting rights bill requiring voter id. quite a change. a flip flop. the way the washington post is reporting on her turn around is called a absolute disgrace.

>> the washington post for not

calling out abe rams and other for their flip flops on voter identification laws. abe rams referring to the laws as jim crow two. now she says she would be open to a version even though it requires voter id. washington post calling her change in stance a evolution. isn't that interesting. here is stacy abrams in her own words then and now. >> voters without a drivers license or state id must surrender their personal information to receive an absentee ballot. then georgia voters have neither idea and punitive free id that is not free with cost of transportation and documents. >> nobody has objected to proving who you are to vote. it has been part of the nation's history since the inception of

voting. >> kayleigh: it deserves a good laugh. stacey abrams and joe biden have moved from jim crow to okay by me. >> yes the polling changed. democrats move with the polling. majority of americans show americans support volter id. vo. the voters didn't buy it. that's what it boils down to. we know this turns. this is what it boils down to. the democrats saw a benefit in the pandemic with massive mail-in voting. they coordinated the strategy to fit the model. that was temporary because of the middle of the pandemic. republicans were always against ma sieve voting by mail. they saw fraud that could take place. you can't verify a voter at that point in time. republicans didn't have a strategy for the massive mail-in

vote. democrats saw it they took advantage of it. now we're going back to the way things were and secure our election to get up to speed. the democrats can't benefit that way. this talking point was all because they benefited from something that was suppose to be temporary and they wanted permanent. if you have voter id you have to limit mail-in voting. >> kayleigh: yes they want to make the covid 19 measures permanent measures. to the polling we have the polling for you. we will pop it up on the screen. it's monmouth university poll. 80% support voter id. 18% oppose. when you look at the party breakdown. 62% democrats support it. democrats. so, stacey abrams, raphael, joe biden, they didn't have a choice

here. >> this is encouraging on two fronts. i'm glad the democrats are coming around to voter id. i'm sure they don't understand their bates, the country, or the polling would turn out this way. at the end of the day i'm happy they're coming around to it this makes me pleased to hear this. it's a flip flop we're happy to point out. pointing out the flip flop and poll numbers are changing and a change of heart. i'm all for that. it's proving something else with the poll numbers. the measures to safe guard our elections, calling it jim crow, calling that racist. it's showing that race baiting is not even working on democrat voters anymore. if i'm democrats i would be terrified coming up to the midterms and 2024. if they don't have covid to fall back on and race baiting to fall

back on, how will they win elections anymore. if you take away the mass mail-in voting as lauren talked about, they're in for a tough time come election day. >> kayleigh: they don't have substance to fall back on either. harris, washington post doesn't give a free pass here. describing this as a evolution and softening. >> harris: of course. >> kayleigh: right. >> harris: they needed a new word. reimagine was getting old. redefining is getting old. they needed something that didn't start with an "r" i am guessing. lawrence pointed out and then you showed on the big wall where the numbers are. voter id has never been not pop aou hrarp. we're polling for it more and find out how many democrats and republicans and independents are for it it was never a situation rioting in the streets over voter id. the politicians on the left read this wrong. then they pushed against it

wrong. they were going to boycott place that's did this. that punished the voting base they compart mentalize, people of color. the minorities. the mlb game goes where, tighter voting restrictions, in colorado. they should of pulled ahead of this. >> georgia points out they were ranked the 49 toughest state to vote now 25th. they're in the median. they lost out on a lot for no reason. >> emily: that doesn't fit the democratic narrative. of course they cover for stacey abrams. they will cover for her toxic hypocrisy slinging around the jim crow and race baiting. it serves democrats interest.

interestingly to flush that out for a second, i think the media will enable anything as misleading as it is that furthers serves democrat interest. to that point and that distinction community, a coalition of black community leaders and business owners called out stacy abrams last month for promoting misinformation about georgia election law that lead to the boycotts that harris just mentioned. stacey abrams doesn't speak for the black community. she speaks for the white liberals. >> emily: this is what we're seeing reinforced by the liberal media. >> harris: now she's backtracking. >> kayleigh: yes and stacey abrams doesn't care about facts apparently.

just ahead as we see a record smashing surge of migrants crossing the border, why is the white house now giving vice president harris a seventh, a seventh roll when she has yet to conquer her first task of tackling the border crisis. we will debate that next.

>> fox news is getting exclusive new video of a bust at the border. agents in texas catching more than 150 migrants last night. take a look at this incredible video of a border patrol agent carrying a 40-year-old migrant woman on his shoulders as they broke into california. we see a surge despite heat and life threatening tkaeupbgzer. vice president harris lands yet another job, selling president

biden's child tax credit. >> i will start with you, you have spent so many hours embedded with the u.s. border patrol. they have so many functions including that of rescuer. >> yes. people forget the humanitarian mission. it's what border patrol is known for. especially in the summer months in texas, arizona, everywhere you have a border. the agents are there day in and day out saving lives. kamala harris i wish she would spend time with border patrol agents like i have several times. maybe she would understand their mission and how overwhelmed they are now. we're waiting on that. i'm glad she is given another job. let's be honest the only thing she has done since being vice president is photo op after photo op with baked cookies with her face on. she's a disgrace unless it's another job of not being the

vice president of the united states. >> emily: lawrence you have spent time on the border. what are they saying about the absence of the vice president? euplts they're devastated. these were traditional democrat areas. they're changing their leadership. they're expecting the state to step up where the federal government has not. i think there will be consequences. federally, we have seen in the small towns changes in their elected officers such as the mayors races and city council races. there is something interesting with kamala harris. she gets these jobs. i don't think she has the authority to do anything. it almost seems -- >> harris: that is interesting. >> -- a window dressing, check a box. she seems hostage when it comes to answering the questions. i find that troubling to have a position with no authority.

>> emily: remember the second after given the job of protecting voter rights she had a statement. the left wing lead liberal media will cover for her and protect the sound bites and say what a great job she did. now kayleigh, she has a sefpblgt one. >> kayleigh: yes, she has failed miserably. she was suppose to be in charge of hr1. the corrupt politician act known as the peoples act. she was suppose to get this passes after she attacked joe mansion. it's doomed to failure. she is lacking at the border, a republican congress woman has put forth legislation she will be barred, kamala harris, from tax payer funded international travel until she goes to the border. she has been to yarn shops, bakeries, and flew over the crisis meeting with southern

countries on the tax payers dime. when asked why she hasn't been to the border she laughs. >> emily: she calls that fly over country. to us it's our country. harris, to lauren's point a governor was called to arms. other governors are selling law enforcement. they're worn so thin and calling out to other states to help where the federal government won't to manage their own crisis. crisis. >> harris: she's the vice president of the united states and has the power to do something. is she looking at everything else other than what she's given to do. politics down the road. you can't get quoted on what you don't say. you can't get graded on what you don't do. we can talk about her not going to the border. if it's a failure like some of what we have seen her do, when

she talks on things. then there is a clean up on isle seven or whatever that's gradable. it may look like she has no power. she chooses not to do it. when everyone from the white house shows up you bring eyes, resources, focus as we say on the faulkner focus. it's important for her to go to the border, not just to get her own education. she from s. from a border state, california, she has the advantage of a wall. maybe that changes her vision, i don't know. she has the ability to take a look, she has the ability to cause -frpb to take a look because of her presence. she chooses not to do that. she avoids using her power. why? >> emily: i would say 202 maybe the answer. >> harris: correct. >> emily: moving on a 9-year-old girl schools her school board on a black lives matter poster.

>> get the posters out of our schools. courage is courageous. so be courageous.

>> harris: just 9 years old and reads a statement going after the minnesota school board for apparently doing a 180° on it's ban on politics in the schools. she confronted the board on posters on the teacher's wall. black live matters and amanda gorman, who spoke at president biden's inauguration. >> the other day i walked down the hallway to give a teacher a retiring gift. i saw a blm poster and amanda gorman poster. that chick is a girl that did a poem at biden's so called inauguration.

i was so mad. i was told two weeks ago at this meeting spot no politics in school. i believe what you said at this meeting. so at lunch i went to my principal and told him about the blm poster and said i want it did down. he said it wasn't coming down. i said ya it is, the school board said on may 25th, no blm or politics in school. it's a lit cal message about getting rid of police officers, rioting, burning buildings, while the governor sits on his throne and watches. you lied to me. i'm disappointed in all of you. you can't follow your own rules. if we do that -- i'm not following your mask rule anymore. get the posters out of our schools. >> harris: it's interesting, last hour on the power panel, you watch this, emily, you kind of see nuance there's. excellent point about one rule for everybody that she makes. i saw you have a reaction to

some of that. amanda gorman is not in politics. how old is she 19, 20, 21, 22? a poet at the inauguration to speak. so i'm kaoeurious your reaction. it was obvious that you wanted to speak on this. >> emily: well, i think on her point about the hypocrisy and also about the application. like if i see you being a hypocrite on this decision making why should i follow your other decisions. you know that popped in my head. i think the important thing that struck me is the spike of participation we have seen from parents and students that are pushing back against these toxic decision that's school boards and unions make. whether it's critical race theory, holidays off the calendar, this kind of thing. i think it's sending a message, it's a on going battle that i think unfortunately i think amanda gorman is a poet and i think of her as definitely a

role model for any child. i did have a startling reaction to the way she addressed her. >> harris: yes, lawrence, she was speaking and emily said during the middle i didn't hear her say that about the "so called inauguration." i mean the moment here that was missed you meet this with just the facts of the law or the rule in school. it went political. i watched this and i wonder now if she actually if these are her words? >> you know i will say this as quite the precarious young person. i was at school board meetings and did my thing. they also educated me as well. i don't think we should go after her passion. i think it should be channeled a little bit. i find amanda to be inspiring. i see this young person that is passionate also about what she feels as well. the real issue here is what is

protected political speech and what is not. part of the history in this school district, this school particularly some, people are allowed to display some political opinions and some are not. now we're on a panel now saying what is protected speech and what is not? it really started with that school district. they should of said if you have a political stance, either everyone can say what they want or nobody says anything at all. you know, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. this is why we're here. again a powerful young lady. i think a lot can be channeled with what she is saying. that's where it comes from. >> harris: i think you pronounce it -- kayleigh, quickly. a point she makes. she says it quite eloquently as lawrence points out f you have no politics have no politics. >> kayleigh: exactly i assume she couldn't post a "make

america great again" sign in her school. not her just speaking out. -- speak for millions of black americans that don't support black lives matters. go on the website, talking about comrades. the leaders being self described marxist. >> harris: the organization blm and the movement quite different. up next, the transgender athlete whose qualified for the olympics and who once says she wanted to win gold. so she could burn the american flag on the podium.

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change the rules? our panel tackles that and pugh c statehood. is corporate america -- or just trying to make money? join sandra smith and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." see you then. >> emily: chelsea wolfe qualifying as a u.s. alternate for the tokyo olympic games says she cares about her country despite this post on facebook last year. wolfe reportedly joked about killing former president trump last year. writing a facebook comment that read: >> interesting, i wonder if he

should they then are on twitter or facebook given the comments she made. our president didn't pass those community standards and guidelines. i think you know how i feel about people not being proud of the country going to the olympics to represent. whatever pronoun she prefers to use she's not proud of the country and feels it's oppressive there are several other counties she could compete for. however, there are several other countries would not except for for what she has chosen to do and her identify cation. instead she lives in this great country affording her the opportunity to go to the olympics to compete. that is something she should be proud of as an american as we all are. unfortunately that's not the case anymore. it's disappointing and sad to see. >> emily: lawrence, as an alternate she probably won't

make it to the podium but that's not erasing the disgusting posts she made. >> it's interesting to me. i find it disgusting. obviously. i'm american with so much pride even as we try to get to the more perfect unit. let her do it it's embarrassing. americans won't like her. i think it sends a message to the world of what it means to be american. she can do that. set the flag on fire and not be put in prison. try doing that in china. see what happens. she would be in a body bag. honestly let her have her point of view. i caution her this, i think this is an important conversation we need to have. even when she essentially cheated because of her biology she still couldn't cut the mustard. i would focus more on the sport i'm trying to compete on instead of these inflammatory statements. >> emily: chelsea did respond to fox news who reached out for a

exclusive comment. her statement was: >> emily: kayleigh, to everyone's point it seems she needs a history lesson. >> kayleigh: yes, she attacks president trump even in her response. after exploded president trump in a long line of actors like johnny depp. he said when was the last time a actor assassinated a president. cathy gifford and madonna saying i have dreams of blowing up the white house, shakespeare in the park here. when do we hold people accountable for murderous and violent statements. >> harris: that's a great

question. that's where i hone down on this. when do we look at the responsibility of how we conduct ourselves. we moe things go viral. we know that words have power. they may not have all of the power, those with meaning why put things in quotes. she knows they have power and is being careful. >> emily: in law enforcement it has to be a actual threat. what about culturally? >> harris: we have to have a bigger discussion about that, emily. >> emily: yes. moving on. imagine take checking your bank balance and finding you're a billion dollars richer or $50 billion in debt. both of those things happened. the details and how it all played out, next.

♪♪ >> a tale of two bank balances. $1 billion, the other minus $50 billion. first, julian tried to withdraw $20 from a chase atm and saw a $1 billion balance in her account. the bank said they posted a negative to alert her to a problem with her account. meantime, maddie from california checked her balance on her cell phone and saw she was nearly $50 billion in the hole. she shared her experience with chase on tik tok. >> i called my bank. it went like this. hello, this is chase bank. how may i help you? hi, i'm negative $50 billion in debt. i'm not sure why. do i have $50 billion? no. she said can i put you on hold?

i have never seen this before. i was like oh. anyway, i have to go into the bank tomorrow to figure it out. >> this was reportedly resolved for maddie. for julia, she's not a billionaire. the florida woman that had plus $1 billion, she was horrified by that. would you be horrified to find that in your account? >> obviously we know it's a mistake. i think it's interesting. the one that has billions from her bank account from florida. the one minus $50 billion in california? it comes in california. it doesn't really surprise me. probably paying for newsome's new mansion or whatever else he wants. it's typical. might be a glitch. >> lauren, she found minute minus $49 billion in her account. >> here's my point. if you have a billion dollars,

the lord is blessing you. but if you're at negative 49 billion, the devil is at work. if i'm celebrating, if i got the money, somebody is franking me. >> if you found that after a night on the town, it's a lot of beer, vodka. >> if i found it positive, the trick is to cash it out. there's a whole slew of cases on accidental check writing. like i put another zero or whatever. >> i'm hiring you. >> i would like to live one day with emily law. >> that's right. >> harris, the california woman says that i thought joe biden was forgiving loan debts with my account. >> she's super educated if she maxed that out. a lot of money for education. so who called first? the woman that lost the money

or -- we have the woman that lost the money on video. we don't have anything from the woman that had the money in her account. she was trying to lay low. >> she was packing her bags and buying the tropical house. >> one-way ticket out of here. >> looking at her tik tok. thanks to every one. here's "america reports." >> sandra: thank you. outrage over a video by "the washington post" with experts telling white people to segregate themselves into accountability groups in order to go through a "period of deep shame." why some critics are comparing it to a cult. >> john: sandra, mollie hemmingway will join us on that. will cane is here on the likely impact of a big supreme court decision on paying ncaa athletes. also on deck today, today pyro and howard kurtz on another busy