the local school board. this is where the future of america is ground out and determined. very interesting places these days. glad to see folks there. >> bill: we've seen hundreds turn out. thanks, gentlemen. tomorrow here on "special report," marco rubio will join me live. until then, thanks for watching. i'm bill hemmer. see you tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern with dana perino on "america's newsroom." will cane has fox news prime time duty all week. good evening. >> bill hemmer, if i promise to talk about kyler murray and josh allen in my monologue, will you stick around. >> bill: i will stick around. you have any word. >> i thought that would do the trick. i appreciate it. good evening. welcome to fox news prime time.

i'm will cane. look, not to get too philosophical on you. if the true measure of society can be found on how they treat their most vulnerable, we have fallen well short. there's no more vulnerable than children. the past year we allowed our children to have their faces covered, called racest or lists and judged them for childish behavior and performed medical experiments that could be called child abuse. the biden justice department has argued that laws prohibiting 12, 13, 14-year-olds from taking puberty blockers and hormones to transition from one gender to another, the laws were discriminatory. arkansas banned transgender treatments on kids.

they passed the safe act. the law prohibited confused children, sympathetic parents and misguided doctors from using injections to young girls from making breast issue. the law the biden administration says unconstitutional. everybody feels for a child. i feel for a child that is lost, confused. they need help. what supporters are calling gender affirming healthcare is not the help that these kids need. we don't nod along as children go through adolescent decisions. we don't take them to a tattoo parlor and alounge themselves to ink up permanently because they like lebron's tattoo sleeveses. we don't led them smoke weed because it's in fashion and we don't affirm every decision because we're supposed to be the adults in the room. we're not though. think about what we have done to children in the past year alone.

we kicked them out of school for over a year. some estimates, allowed them to fall behind 36% in math and 37% in reading. why did this while science said kids were almost no risk to suffer from covid. we did there while depression and suicide rates skyrocketed. as we came to our senses and emerged outside, we decided that kids were the biggest risk because they were unvaccinated. needed to remain masked. i could walk outside on a 90-degree day and see unmasked adults walking hand and hand with masked 5-year-olds. that push will soon extend to

2-year-olds getting the vaccine. now, at the same time, all of this is happening, there's a movement spreading a cross hour school system that teaches young white children that they're born racists. more insidiously, it teaching young black children that they're born are victims in a system that they cannot win. luckily some parents have had enough of this abuse. >> it's sad that we're contemplating critical race theory where children will be separated by skin color and deemed oppressors or oppressed in 2021. that is not teaching the truth unless you believe that whites are better than blacks. >> you're training our children to be social justice warriors and to loathe our country and our history. >> the critical race theory has its roots in cultural marxism and should have no place in our schools. >> you talk about critical race theory, which is pretty much going to be teaching kids how to hate each other, how to dislike each other. you're going to tell a white kid

that -- how do i have two medical degrees if i'm oppressed? how did i get here right now if a white man kept me down? >> what if your children don't learn the lessons of critical race theory? what if they're not woke? we in order as a society in order to project our own virtual, we cancel their future. just this week 19-year-old pop star billie eilish is under fire. she's being cancelled for a racial slur that she used on social media when she was 13. i'm not a fan of billie eilish and she's probably no fan of mine but lord if i'm going to attack the thoughts of a 13-year-old. that's what we do in america. we attacked kyler murray for his team tweets. we a tack a governor going to the university of tennessee and that warranted a front page times article and got her

admission to tennessee rescinded. "new york times," "washington post," cnn, nbc talked of the president's son using the n word as an adult. what is wrong with us? now we allow kids to destroyed their bodies permanently because we're afraid of being called anti-trans. children go through things. they go through fads, mistakes, phases. adults are supposed to guide them. for trans kid, that guidance is missing. 13% of transgender people detransition, go back to their birth gender at some point in their life. some studies suggest the numbers are much higher. for children that make those choices before puberty in adolescents. without consequences, you don't detransition without consequences. carrie began her transition at 17. now -- >> i'm a real live 22-year-old

woman with a scarred chest and a broken voice and 5:00 shadow because i couldn't face the idea of growing up to be a woman. that was my reality. >> we don't allow children to buy alcohol. we don't allow children to get tattoos or buy porn, to vote, get their tubes tied. why do we allow them to take experimental drugs that permanently change their bodies at 12 years old? luckily some have regained their sanity. in sweden, the largest children's hospital, the hospital that awarded the nobel peace prize and decided these drugs were too experimental for kids and discontinued the use of puberty blockers and hormone treatments. arkansas passed a law banning this treatment over their republican governor's veto that governor will join us in moments. now dozens of states are barning this experimental and dangerous treatment. we adults need to stand up for our kids. we cannot bough to the fear of being called anti-trans and we will be called anti-trans.

but we're not. free people. free adults can do what they want. we cannot protect our kids by cower in fear. we cannot protect our kids by experimenting on them that is child abuse. joining me now, dr. deborah sow, the author of the end of gender. thanks for being with us tonight. you're read in on this issue. you have a lot of knowledge. what is going on in america right now? >> hi, will. thanks for having me. as you said, children are innocent, they're vulnerable. they're dependent on the adults in their lives to make good decisions for them. unfortunately what we're seeing is some adults are deciding to exploit this and use children as a way to further their political agenda, to use them as pawns with the issue of young children transitioning. i do not know who thinks this is a good idea. as you said, we do not allow

kids to make decisions like drinking, voting, driving, making any other form of medical decision. for some reason, when it comes to transition, some people believe children can make life altering decisions about medical interventions that will leave them with permanent side effects. in the event of detransitioners, these are individuals born female that decided to go to male and then back to female. in some instances, they have double marketectomies, have testerone and have their ovaries remove. they wake up at 21 and say what have i done? this was a mistake. >> how common is that? how common is that, dr. soh, this process of detransitions? how common is it to start the process as children? >> we don't yet have those numbers because there's been such a large wave in the last

two years. so the current estimate is from 2%, 13%. some studies say, the end of gender, i go through the science discussing why childhood transition is not appropriate, it's not a good idea. i interview detransitioners to talk about this. adults should not be silent about this. the children are dependent on us. >> i have to ask you, you talked about the numbers exploding the last two years. there's been an explosion the last ten years of children, individuals at large in this country but children in particular choosing to transition. why an explosion in the past ten years? >> because trans activism has gone off the rails. because anyone that speaks up against it has been shamed. in same cases they have their reputations and livelihoods ruined. people are afraid to speak up. i don't think people are on board with this agenda. because the backlash is so severe, what you see is activists continue to push and push. now they're getting their

activism written into law, this will protect children. >> thanks, dr. soh. this is not an anti trans argument. adults are free to make the choices that they would like. this is about what children should do. happening answer that question republican governor from arkansas. asa hutchison. we talked about your state banning this experimental treatment for children. you vetoed that law. the legislature overrode your veto. why did you choose to ban this treatment? >> of course, i'm on the show to talk about criminal justice and more fairness in it, so you shifted topics on me. but in terms of the legislation as you know, i signed a bill that prohibited transgender males from competing in girls athletics. i thought that was important because i want to protect and promote girls and athletics.

i thought this undermined our title 9 opportunities. when it comes to the transgender bill and healthcare, i would have signed a law that would have prohibited transgender reassignment surgery for anyone who is a minor. i think that is a given that that should be prohibited even parents should not be able to consent to it. when it came to the healthcare issue, one thing is important is that parents do have a role in guiding children and to making decisions with doctors and the state should have some hesitation about jumping in the middle of that. because there is no grandfather clause that was involved here, so that young people with parents consent undergoing current treatment would be blocked from doing that under the law that was passed. so those are state decisions, those are individual decisions

and that's a little bit of the background on it. >> so governor, this is the first time that you've and i have spoken today. i apologize on the miscommunication. i didn't want to make you think you were talking about something else. if you were under that impression, i apologize. but i'm confident you're capable of speaking on this issue because of what you know that is going on in your state. i understand everything you laid out, that you would have vetoed a bill that simply forbid surgical procedures on minors. i want to talk about the puberty blockers and hormonal treatment. you said that is a decision for a parent and a medical doctor and the state shouldn't intervene. you support legislation that the state steps in between parents and doctors and the rights on many issues most notably on abortion. there's safety issues, when we use medical marijuana where the

state can say what should be allowed in a state. i have trouble understanding how you as the governor of arkansas distinguished this particular form of treatment from other dangerous treatments or dangerous freedoms that were allowed? why should children even with their parent consent be able to talk puberty blockers or hormones that change them? >> you're right. i signed every pro life piece of legislation that has come to my desk. the state in order to protect the life of the unborn has important roles to play. so there are those instances and absolutely. but as a conservative republican, i do think you need to ask the question, is there the right role of the state? i say yes it is when it comes to protecting the life of the unborn. when it comes to some healthcare

decisions, absolutely yes, which would be blocking reassignment surgery. then you get to some areas that you have to balance, what are the rights of the parents? what if the state came in and said you had to mandate? the state had to make the decision instead of the parents? conservatives would not react well to that. >> i understand that logic what wins the day, governor, the same logic that protects the unborn. the same logic that would protect someone from reassignment surgery. i understand your argument. i appreciate you addressing the issues head on. thanks, governor hutchison. >> thank you. >> next up, are democrats or republicaning being honest when they want to break up big tech? if you follow the story, an interesting story emerges.

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>> will: break up big tech. it's a chant, a montra almost. made some strange bed fellows. it has ilhan omar retweeting tucker carlson. tomorrow, a handful of bipartisan bills breaking up big tech. this debate is fascinating because it's blown up party loyalty. people like elizabeth warren falling on the same side as josh hawley. are you confused? joining me now, jim jordan. thanks for being with us. there's five bipartisan bills that promise to break up big tech making their way through the house. where do you stand on this?

it's blown up party loyalties and party lines. where do you stand on these bills of breaking up big tech? >> a couple of things, will. we know big tech is out to get conservatives. they kicked a sitting president of the united states off of every platform. we know that is a problem. i don't think they're the answer. their marry up big tech with big government. guess who the new chair is? leena contz? she worked for jerry nadler and the democrats on the judiciary committee who put this legislation together. my guess is, she probably helped write the bills that gave so much power to the ftc. the ftc that she now chairs. so i think that is bad for conservatives, bad for free speech, bad for the censorship we've been seeing. >> will: you're right in

pointing out that many of the sponsors of these bills and leena khan herself have been people that talks about disinformation and more censorship for quite some time. their approach to big tech is you're not censoring enough. so everybody should approach them when it comes to this es -- these bills. we can't go to google and get anything done. we can't get our censorship undone. is the democratic process even though in the hands of democrats but possibly in the hands of people that care more about free speech? is this note a check on these massive corporations? >> no. what we need is the bill we're going to introduce. our bill does four key things. it says we will expedite the current antitrust department that the trump department brought against facebook and google. we'll speed that process up so it goes to the supreme court.

we will have a right to sue these companies when they censor you. third is, take away what is called section 230. take away the liability protection that these companies have. part of that expedited right to bring a private action is if you're a candidate. much like candidate for public office. like what governor desantis is working on in the state of florida. >> will: and you'll introduce that? >> we'll have those amounts ready tomorrow in committee and put them in a bill form as well that is what the american people are concerned about, the censorship that they saw last fall with big tech keeping the hunter biden story from the american people. that's what we need to address. >> will: we'll be watching with baited breath. thanks for coming on and feel the problems with these bills and your solutions.

thank you. >> you bet. >> will: also here tonight, democratic congressman, ro khanna whose congressional district is there in the heart of silicon valley. thanks for being with me, this seems to be scrambling party lines. i don't know. some suggest that the party lines are being divided is establishment versus anti-establishment. where are you on these bills? establishment or anti-establishment? >> i don't think that's the division. the division is rationale policy versus policy that doesn't make sense. i'm for stronger antitrust enforcement and there are as one bill, joe's bill, that does the right thing. it would increase the fees on mergers and make it harder, a lot of the bills are poorly crafted. they would in some cases make the situation worse. there's principles that are good, but if you look at the details, they haven't thought through. >> will: congressman, who does define what is rationale?

if that is your dividing line on which of these bills making sense, who is defining who is rationale? your district does sit in silicon valley. your biggest donors like alphabet. so who -- the concern is -- are big tech companies deciding what is rationale? >> no. i don't think google and apple should be able to have a promotional agreement where google is the default search engine on the iphone. there are -- the justice department filed suit that started in the trump administration that is a reasonable law. to saw, for example, that if your data is transferred, we have to allow that without consent, that's what created the cambridge analytica scandal.

>> will: congressman, in the end, as complicated as this can be, it gets simple. many people think the problem is not a free market check on these massive companies. if you are censored, if you're kicked off, you have no where to go to regain your voice. the only place you can go is to make these companies smaller, that take away their business. would you support breaking up the tech companies? >> it depends on a case by case basis. what's app and instagram should not be part of facebook. i support having more social media forums. the competition is the answer. if you wanted to say ro khanna never comes back on fox news, i can't sue you and say have me on. i can go on msmbc or cnn or other channels. so the ultimate recourse so that we need more social media sites. there's thoughtful legislation

that could do that and there's thoughtful action that could do that. i don't think these bills will do that. >> will: they are the first attempt to do something to break up big tech. a loss of people, you and congressman jordan don't see that they're substance ty good measures in moving that direction. >> the gdpr and google is more powerful in europe. the tech companies are running circles around the european regulators. we don't have people in congress that understand took and they run circles around him. >> will: thanks, ro khanna. >> thank you. >> will: are the chinese proud of the way that the covid-19 pandemic played out? that's not and outrageous accusation about their 100-year plan and the award that they just gave to the wuhan lab. senator john kennedy on that and more when we come back.

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>> will: america is the world's greatest super power. is there a transition? has china upstaged the united states as the most influential country? could it happen soon? the pandemic taught us anything could happen. we should be prepared for that. the virus sent our nation in a downward spinal and china came out on top. we're economically setback. they're up. we turned in on ourselves. we fight, divide ourselves. they axle. we pull back on energy, they march forward. the effects make you raise your eyebrows. while the rest of the world presses to see where the virus came from, china says they deserve a reward for outstanding technology but even a higher honor. a top spokesman said the genome

sequence was made by a chinese scientist. the team in wuhan should be awarded the nobel prize in medicine for their research on covid-19 instead of being criticized. a little odd. everything worked out beautifully. the point is whether the leak was an accident or purposeful. it crumbled america. while placing china in a perfect position to gain power. is this part of their mast or plan? i don't know. i will say it does serve their master plan. china has made no secret of their desire to replace the united states as the world's preeminent super parter. it was mentioned in april. global dominant should be let by a few countries. what does that mean? here now to react, john kennedy.

senator, great to see you on the program. there's been some talk for quite some time about china's 100-year plan. there's no hiding it. they want to replace the united states as a world super power. did we see them take major gains in that direction? >> in my opinion, no. sometimes falling feels like flying for a little while. china may boast they're a net winner but it's think it's a loser. they're certainly a losener the worldwide court of public opinion. the chinese people are good people but the communist party lines. they lied about the virus. we're now gathering evidence that the virus not only

originated in china but it might have originated from the wuhan lab. number 2, i know china says they're doing well economically. but once again, the communist party leadership lies liar's breathes. we've never been able to trust their numbers. number 3, china was very proud of their covid vaccine. the fact is, it's very inferior. they have distributed to it 90 companies. sometimes they extracted concessions. like we'll give you the vaccine if you support our position on taiwan, a lot of the countries that have used the vaccine having major outbreaks of the coronavirus. >> the vaccine is not the only thing they're proud of. they're proud of the wuhan

institute of virology played in this crisis. they're willing to give them an award. as you lay out the manner of sin that china, the chinese communist party committed the past year, how do you hold them accountable? how does the united states of america hold them accountable? >> here's what we need to do. president biden needs to enlist the support of other democracies throughout the world, canada, the u.k., australia and new zealand, the e.u., south korea, india, go to china and demand, not ask, but demand full disclosure. we also need -- president biden needs to have a prayer session with the who and he needs to

tell them that look, we put up $900 million, the american taxpayers to run your agency. if you don't stand up to china, you better looks elsewhere for that $900 million. if that offends you, i'll help you pack. >> will: i would love to see that accountability. china made no secret of their 100-year plan and replace the united states. i saw a crazy heart. i know jeff bridge's song, "sometimes falling feels like flying". let's hope we're flying and they fall in the global struggle for power. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> will: so that's a republican senator. how does a democratic senator get away with being a member of an all-white beach club and vowing to root out systemic racism? how is that possible? we'll ask someone on the other

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>> will: this story is fascinating. impossible to wrap your head around the idea that sheldon whitehouse continues to defend his membership to an exclusive allegedly all-white beach club. it's not anything new. he was pressed on the issue in 2017. guess what? he had the same answer. watch. >> you think there's an issue belonging to an all-exclusive organization and being one of the most progressive members of the senate? >> it would be nice if membership changed a little bit but it's not my position. >> will you pressure them to do so? >> i'll take that up privately. >> will: it's a big process. you have to understand social justice takes time. since then, whitehouse has called out systemic racism in america. last year he said "we hear the voices of the peaceful protesters that have marched.

we have to road out systemic racism". so how can democrats defend this hypocrisy? let's see if mickey can do so. how can you say you want the root out systemic racism and belong to an all-white beach club? how do you defend this? >> this is why we need more progressive women in congress, in office and in the senate. it's no secret that washington d.c. has been an old boy's club and the average member of congress is a multimillionaire. i would love to see this outrage to people like donald trump and republicans that all of them belong to these clubs and these -- >> will: if donald trump were a part of an all-white beach club, it would drive the news cycle for over a week. this story is amazing -- >> i think he is. >> will: is that it for sheldon

whitehouse? it's okay because you can point out republicans that might? >> it's not okay for anybody in my opinion. why should have a washington that is reflective of the country, more women, more people of color, more union members and working class people. we don't need more elitists. >> will: i agree. >> we don't need pseudopopulists like donald trump and half of the republican party is trying to echo his populous lines right now. if you're going to say stay out of the beach club, all of you should get out. are you a lobbyist or -- >> will: i think you miss donald trump. >> no. he's not going away. i think fox misses donald trump. >> will: really? you want to take a measure who is not talking about trump the most? i'd lake to have those minutes charts put up on the television. >> you're too on aoc. >> will: this is the populism. it's fake. i want less elitist in the halls of congress. that doesn't mean that women are

working class or live less racist lives. the question is who you are as an individual. >> the majority of working class people are people of color. the majority of working class people are people of color. >> will: i don't think that's true. you think there's working class white people in this country? you said the working -- >> i said the majority of working class people are people of color. >> will: they call in all races. they call -- >> i don't disagree. >> will: working class people can look in the halls of congress -- okay. let's get to this. here's what i think. i'd like to tell you, sheldon whitehouse is a bigger story. he's symbolic. the virtue signalling and yelling racism, rooting out systemic racism is a mask and a guys. sheldon whitehouse is a great example of that. >> why wouldn't you --

>> will: most people yelling racist are hiding their own racist thoughts. sheldon whitehouse is talking about rooting out systemic racism and partying at an all-white beach club. it's a bigger story. it's about people on your -- >> will: you're using the word systemic. systemic is the operative world here. sheldon whitehouse is trying in his position although i wish he wasn't part of a country club trying to root out systemic racism ott systemic issues. why are you against routing out racism? does it not exist -- >> individual racism forgivable. systemic is not. >> systemic racism -- >> will: i got the new ruse. i asked you how you can explain it -- >> should have reparations? you don't believe in reparations? >> will: do i believe in

reparations? i do not. i have no problem answering that question. >> why is that? >> will: i believe we having asy and individualism and you're responsible for your sins, not your forefathers. have to run. >> so south africa had reparations. >> to vote, new york. >> will: thanks. guess who is back? pete hegseth. he's on the clock next.

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as white's premises from assistant proposing an antiracist vision statements promising to confront racial bias in beaverton, the same school district endorsed a graduation ceremony for black students only. segregated. >> perfect, to be the perfect antiracist is racist. if you want to prove, it's the perfect -- if you want to prove how guilty you are about being white, you should get in the fetal position, suck your thumb, and ultimately yellow, diversity, equity, and inclusion as many times as you can. this is a logical insanity right before us. never to be less racist. >> will: story number two, chelsea woelfel is qualified to represent the u.s. as an alternate in this year's summer olympics is under fire for a facebook post from last year threatening to burn the american flag on the olympic podium. we should also point out that the bmx or is a transgender

athlete. mailed transition to female, olympic alternates. your take? >> chelsea should try that in china or iran or pakistan, or anywhere else where all of those freedom of expressions are so cherished for anybody, especially for someone who is trans. in this particular case, i would like to ask chelsea because he also claims to be a big antifascist. would she get off of the boat on normandy beach to fight the real fascists? could we ask the world war ii generation whether she would've ponied up and went to fight the? maybe a little mixed up. >> will: my suspicion that she wouldn't be on those teams, as he pointed out. of the country she would burn the flag of baird in case you're wondering where your next family vacation, look at portland, oregon.

despite recent chaos, this companies travel portland are urging people to travel across the country to visit. watch. >> are not perfect, but we are the kind of place where you don't have to be anyone but yourself. we have some of the loudest voices on the west coast. >> will: [laughs] is going to be an antifa member with the bullhorn, that's portland. by the way, they advertised short-term rentals. come and stay as quickly as you can before you leave, you will see burning tires, you will see rioters, looters, homelessness, and that that has no consequence. of course he will meet your favorite members of antifa while you're here. come see it for yourself. it's like going to see a deployment. just see what combat looks like. wonderful, delightful. come join us, it'll be great. >> will: air force base in

nevada posted its first-ever direction doing dumb mike green show where they have the option to learn the history of it drag queen performance. they thought it was a good idea, the event was essential to the readiness of the military. not only are you a former patriot, you are telling me at one point how much you enjoyed drag performances. >> i do, i'm a big connoisseur, actually. it's one of my past times. i've attended a few uso performances, never drag queens, we managed to maintain our morale, cohesion and unit readiness. he want to laugh, but are enemies of the ones laughing at us, the communist, the chinese and russians looking at this. classes in session? i can't wait to -- i can't imagine a young private, showing up to be the toughest war fighters on earth and they've got a drag queen show. because a little thrown off this

entire segment because of that fact-check you gave me at the beginning of the segment. just because you did it right. i will be here anytime. >> will: thank you for watching fox news prime time, i'm will cain, don't forget to check out the will cain podcast, new episodes monday and friday. i will be back tomorrow night after to here's tucker carlson. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," happy tuesday. a few days ago, "the wall street journal" had a interesting event you may have missed, the tech health conference. during that event, one reporter had a question for the head of google's health division, a man called david feinberg. why that reporter asked, was google censoring searches for information about the possibility that covid had escaped from a laboratory in china. th b