♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." about 40 minutes ago we got a welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." about 40 minutes ago we got a text from our friend, amy bruce who said that rose mcgowan the actor wanted to come on the

pandemic key pieces of medical guidance for the world health organization are proven to be disastrously false. false enough the cost lives. with the who you remember the poll is that kobold it could no be transmitted between people. even as the virus was spreading here the united states. it was the who that worked in stop with the chinese governmen to obscure the source of the outbreak at the very beginning and at that height as origins o the world. when i type the world health organization those are statements of fact. we think they would be disqualifying but the opposite. has proven to be true for more than a year the tech monopolies of silicon valley have used the work had organizations official meant to determine what america

news consumers are allowedst to know and what they should be prohibited to knowing to bring up and accurate information to billions of people. so that's a partnership between a china controlled ngo with her aunt's house organization and china behold intact in this country continued smoothly unti just a few days ago that's when the bureaucrat that what organization published a new vaccine guidance. there's what it says. children should not take the coronavirus vaccine. by? the drugs are too dangerous there are nearly at updated to understand their long-term effects or to show that the benefits of the drugs are what the risks they bring. this is terrible news this is terrible news, of course for the pharmaceutical industry. it is deeply embarrassing for much of the american news media which has taken a quick break. and above all is a shocking

>> and above all it is a shocking repudiation of the american health establishment. which is bowman that the sea pushing universal vaccination including for children.be here for example is biden's top growth advisors manual telling us that young people should be hired to get the shot watch. >> there are clearly places students in universities not university for example faculty and staff healthcare facilities every healthcare worker out of your vaccinated i to worry as m dr.ve has has that nurse and i think employers are to take it seriously and consider mandating and requirin their workers to get vaccinated wait a second if you've been vaccinated why would you will b about whether the people around you have been vaccinated if the were? quite an obvious question they

never asked should. they may not have a chance because the world health organizations' at latest a finding that vaccines are not safe for children changes the conversation completely and at the thread everything that reckless creeps like izzy commendable in the the pharmaceutical industry have been working for. more vaccines at no matter what their human cost of that is our position. in the end, the forces of it recklessness happier to have more power in been in the world health organization. here is how we know. enable markable about faye that silicon valley decided that who is in fact reliable it's a disseminators of this information. facebook is censored a woman called michelle call yeti herbs for sharing that who's bulletin on vaccines that work for word.u she just posted at facebook deleted it. quote your comment goes against our commitments due to some spam so this is the policy. everything about vaccines is good period and you are not allowed to suggest otherwise, in

a matter what data you might have, no matter what health organization tells you. in epidemiology learn this recently peered she posted from the cdc's own website, right from their own website showing that myocarditis, a potentially fatal heart inflammation is extremely hot and young people who have taken the vaccine. that is not to dispute any more. it has just confirmed that there is in fact a link between the vaccine and myocarditis. we are standing on shaky ground. the risk for kids is higher than it is from the vaccine. she wrote that on twitter. it's true. it has been confirmed by the cdc. and twitter censored her. why?it it makes you wonder, why is that the one forbidden thing? and while we are at it, what are the risks from vaccines? all medicines come with risks.

what is the risk for vaccines? what is the real answer customer we should know. well, two medical school professors, harvey risch from yale recently tried to find out. they outlined what they found in "the wall street journal." they discovered that the biggest database isn't simply showing elevated rates of myocarditis it is also showing much higher rates of other very serious complications. low platelets for example. o and death.r many deaths. the implication is that "the risks of a covid-19 vaccine may outweigh the benefits for certain low risk populations such as children, young adults and people who have recovered from covid-19." that is what the data showed clearly. but instead of listening to the science, many schools and countless employers are mandating that everyone take the shot, even people who have

already had covid and recoveredh people who do not need the shot why are they doing this? it's lunacy. while, because people like tony fauci told them that these vaccines are more effective than natural immunity.cc is that true? no. it is not true. there is no data to support that claim. but tony fauci says it anyway. >> we know that infections, the same strain as the initial infection remained rare. they occur, but they are rare. vaccination in people previously infected significantly boosts the immune response and likely come as i'm going to show you in a moment, providing better protection against certain variance.st and then the issue of vaccines actually, at least with regard to --ac >> tucker: college students are being forced, young adults in the prime of their lives are

being forced to take the vaccine because tony fauci said that even though they don't need it and in some cases don't want it. so what will be the effects on them? well, judging by the reporting system, we can be certain that some will be harmed. beyond that, we can't be sure. as it turns out, we aren't even sure what effect this vaccine has on the elderly. we were toldt from day one shoud take the vaccine as quickly as possible. most of us, everyone on the show for certain, believe that. but new numbers are coming. the medicine agency has found that the vaccine may increase the risk of death in the elderly as well. a norwegian study conducted a study of 100 nursing home residents who died after receiving pfizer's corona shots. they found that at least ten of those deaths were likelyci causd by the vaccine. 10%..

and of those and 26 other cases they believe they were possibly caused by the vaccine. so what explains those numbers? this appears to be happening. why is it happening? well, robert malone tried to address that question recently in a podcast that was broadcast on youtube. youtube immediately took it down. now they did this even though dr. robert malone may be the single most qualifiedd person on planet earth to discuss the subject. why? because he helped create the mrna technology behind the covid vaccine. we think he has a right to speak. dr. robert malone joins us now. doctor, thanks so much for coming on. in a way that is accessible to nonscientists, i hope you will tell us, do you have concerns about these vaccines for people who aren't at great risk? >> yes. i think that one of my concerns are that the government is not being transparent with us about what those risks are. and so, i am of the opinion that

people have the right to decide whether to accept vaccines or not, especially since these are experimental vaccines. this is a fundamental right having to do with clinical research ethics. and so, my concern is that i m know that there are risks. but we don't have access to the data and the data haven't been captured rigorously enough so that we canca accurately assess those risks. and therefore, for folksks like your audience, you and me, we don't really have the information that we need to make a reasonable decision. >> tucker: here is a simple formula that most people use when they are trying to think about should i take this or that pharmaceutical. do the benefits likely outweigh the risks?ma so, for this largest population in america being forced to take the vaccines, kids between 18 and 22, huge number of them have already had and recovered from covid.f

very few of whom's stats show will die from covid. for those who have already had the virus, do the benefits outweigh the risk in your view? >> so, i have a bias that the benefits probably don't outweigh the risk in that cohort. but unfortunately, the risk-benefit analysis is not being done. so that is one of my other objections, is that we talk about these words risk-benefit analysis casually as if it is very deep science. it's not. normally at this stage, the cdc would have performed those risk-benefit analysis and they would be databased and science-based. they are not right now. it is kind of a little bit at the seat-of-the-pants. and that i really object to. so you ask me do i think the risk-benefit ratio is appropriate for this age cohort?

the truth is i can't really say. but certainly, i can say that the risk-benefit ratio for those 18 and below doesn't justify vaccines and there's a pretty good chance that it doesn't justify vaccination in these very young adults. >> tucker: it's hard to believe that anybody would push universal vaccination on country without getting the data that doesn't exist. how did no one thing to do that? >> i think that what we have is a structural problem in how the databases were built and how they are being analyzed. my understanding from my colleagues is that the cdc is overwhelmed. they aren't even processing the data they have. by the mmwr report on safety and pregnancy, the safe database which is the one that they hold internal is so poor that they

can't draw any definitive conclusions about whether or not these vaccines are safe. they believe they are generally safe but the databases aren't sufficient toaf really demonstre that. we are left in a position where we are waiting from scandinavia and hopefully from israel to back up our decisions and public health. unfortunately, the israelis that we have been relying on did not pick up these cardio toxicity risks that we now are learning about. they were first picked up by fda people looking at the vers databased. >> tucker: shocking. in an environment like this where we hear so few voices like yours, the fact that you are being censured as a scandal. thank you very much for coming on.yo >> thank you for your time.

>> tucker: we told you that the actress rose mcgowan had texted to say she wanted to come on our show to talk about something. not entirely sure what it is but we are going to find out in juso a moment. also, shocking footage from last night, virginia shows police officers dragging parents away in handcuffs in a public school board meeting. one of the parents arrested in that video joins us. ♪ ♪

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they need to be ready for anything. i hope you're ready. 'cause we are. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: public schools in virginia, like so many schools in this country have gone insane in the last year. instead, they are indoctrinating children. scary. in latin county, kids are not allowed to readre "to kill a mockingbird" anymore. instead, they are assigned novels -- go parents have been revolting against us, not just right-wingers. not just politically active people. people with kids in the schools. why would you want your kids taught some bizarre poisonous racial theory? it's disgusting. so, last night the school board met and agreed to solicit public comments.

they didn't take that many, but those they heardc weren't very positive. >> the western culture, the founding documents are being called evil and racist. >> you are not the captain. we are your bosses and god willing we were return most of you to the private sector very soon. >> i'm reminded of the tyranny of communist china where your money is stolen and used in government schools. not public schools. these are government schools like here, to indoctrinate children against their parents. >> as long as you marxists push your agenda on my child, she will not be returning. [cheers and applause] >> tucker: so the school board didn't want to hear it. they are as out of touch ass mot of our institutions. didn't want toey hear it. they had it declared an unlawful assembly.

one parent was arrested. watch this. >> the county tax payer pays your salary! >> you guyss are actually supporting the suppression of people's rights. >> deputies, please arrest this individual for trespassing. >> tucker: so they handcuffed him and dragged him away. didn't want to hear from him apparently. john joins us to expand what happened. john, thanks so much for coming on.s it feels like this is the moment where people have finally had it with this scary racial theory. tell us what happened to t you. why did they arrest you? >> that's a good question tucker. because as best i understand it i was in a place where free speech has to happen. if you want to redress your grievances about a school board

there is no other place you can do it than in a school board meeting. in this case, went onto public land, went into a public auditorium. therefore a public forum that we were invited to and i was signed up to give public comments. and at the end of all that every single person there, all 500 parents have their first amendment rights trampled on by the school board and its irsuperintendent. >> tucker: they are going to get a revolution.. that is what happens when you ignore legitimate complaints. people get l radical. i hope itop doesn't happen, but you see how it could. so in this i case, these are the people who pay the latin county schools. the building was reserved andin open until 7:00 p.m. they arrested you before seven as i understand. >> yeah, actually was closer to about 5:45. and we were supposed to go until

7:00 p.m. until the school board heard something they didn't like which was ironically applause for one of the people that we were supporting, senator black. they shut it down. but there was not violence. it wasn't anything crazy going on. people stayed there. they actually started singing and then we just encouraged folks that if the school board didn't want to hear it, we were going to hear from one another. and we allowed a very orderly peaceful process of allowing people to actually start speaking. and they did that. they lined up and started presenting their perspectives. and we allowed the other side to do the same. and then suddenly, it was declared an unlawful assembly after the thing that you are showing right now. as best as i can tell, it was a complete leftist tactics that ws preplanned because no one that

was lined up to speak was involved in any of that. so, the result was they declared an unlawful assembly and then they moved a whole series of deputies and tried to push them out of the room threatening them with arrest. >> tucker: so they didn't like what you had to say so they declared you're talking illegaly and then got the cops who should be ashamed of themselves to arrest you for saying something that the school board didn't like.op >> that's correct parents but when am i missing anything? >> no, that is what is so inferior rating. b there is such a high standard for free speech. it is the most sacred of all ofp our rights and it takes an amazing amount of justification to shut down free speech. >> tucker: yeah. it does. not liking it does not added justification. i think only until people are willing to be arrested for

exercising their constitutional rights will those rights be protected. i appreciate what you did in coming on tonight. thank you. >> thank you.. >> tucker: so we didn't do it intentionally as a so often the case, but joe biden has delivered the single best argument in favor of the second amendment, may be any president has ever made. that's next. plus, rose mcgowan asked to come on the show less then an hour before we air to make an announcement and she is going to. be right back. ♪ ♪ shipped

♪ ♪ >> tucker: what today joe biden delivered his major address on crime. it had nothing to do with crime. instead, it was about t how joe biden should be a lot more powerful than he already is. at one point, he reminded you there is nothing you can do to fight back against the government because he's got nuclear weapons and you don't. >> the second amendment from the

day it was passed limited what type of people could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. you couldn't buy a canon. the blood of patriots and all the stuff about how we are going to have to move against the government. well, the tree of liberty is not watered in the blood of patriots. what has happened is that there has never been, if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need f-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons. >> tucker: so, to take on the government, you need f-15s and some nuclear weapons, says joe biden. but wait, isn't this guy telling us that january 6th insurrection by the qanon army nearly toppled democracy custom record doesn't make an sense at all. but he stuck with this point continually. guns are the problem, he told us again and again. >> now, the gun lobby and wants you to believe that cities that

have the toughest gun laws still have the highest rates of gun violence. the violence is so they argue why you need those gun laws if they don't work in cities that have tough laws? don't believe it. here is the truth today's conversation echoed what we know to be the case. it premieres all across the country. they have the power to help shape andun enforce laws in cities.ey but they can't control the laws and neighboring cities and states even though the gun legally bought there often ends up on the streets. sku one oh, so there it is right there. all the crimes in the city, but we are not going to attack theri crime in the cities. we are going to attack people outside of the cities where there's not much crime because that is the root cause of crime in the city.e what it doesn't explain is that if guns cause crime, a huge murder rate in chicago, very low murder rate in indiana. if there are so many guns in rural indiana, why isn't there more crime?

oh, that doesn't make sense. what makes even less sense is that these cities where crime really is a life-changing problem aren't even enforcing their own gun laws, the ones onl the books. according to a report in "the washington post," attorney's district really secures prison time for gun offenders. what a customer if you want to stop crime, you would incarcerate people who use guns on other people but they are not. 49% for 19. meanwhile, arrests for the arrest for possession. missing the point. same phrase. he was quite safe for him. he thrust in it. chief, thanks so much for coming on. i'm confused. if you want to lower the number

for further cities with a faulty 50-foot bath would stop prosecuting gun violence crimes in the cities? i don't get that. >> you know, tucker, that's the problem. nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room. when i was chief of detroit, and if we were arrested. 100 a week. prosecutors charge 75% of them and guess what happens next. bail reform. bail reform is the enemy to try to reduce violent crime. nobody wants to talk about these other public servants called the judges. they want to blame crime on police. you know, i got to tell you, i have listened to the president's message. some of it was okay.

but it didn't go far enough. you are talking about, okay, we are going to hire more police and we are going to give them over time. really? problem is, who supports the men and women? the reason why new york and places like chicago police officers are leaving in large numbers, they don't feel supported. and i gotor to tell you phenomenal work. i supported them unapologetically. i was always transparent. i was going to do what i needed to do to hold them accountable. but i've got to tell you something, tucker. this here, and then here is the other part. they want to attack those individuals, the gun dealers. i had a

conversation with a friend of mine who owns several gun shops here in detroit and he is like what is going on? he does it right. he is a responsible gun dealer tucker. >> tucker: yeah. as someone who lives in a place where everyone has guns and there is no gun crime, you have to think maybe it's more complex than just the instrument of the crime. thanks very much. >> they are criminals. >> tucker: it's the criminals. >> great seeing you too, target. look forward to talking to you again. >> tucker: we are now learning about the effects of the coronavirus lockdown. jesse kelly has talked deeply about the implications. we talked to him about his own experience over the last year under the corona lockdowns on "tucker carlson today." here is part of it. ♪ ♪ >> we learned in

february-march 2020 that this pandemic is on the way. the country shuts down in ever but he has to make within their own family a decision how do we respond to this customer how does your family respond? >> i went to work and my kids went to school. what we did during covid, the idea that you stop in economy from moving in response to a virus, and a virus, no matter how deadly it is, the idea that you point to the economy and say stop in response to a virus is the most financially devastatiny idea in history of mankind. in the history of mankind. what we did during covid by stopping moving, by pointing to our economy and saying stop, we did it just crushed small business and jobs and all the other bad stuff you can say what we did, we laid out a blueprint to our biggest enemymy on exactly how we will respond to a virus. and if people think china, who is very, very good at warfare and the long game, if you think china wasn't sitting there

making notes and meandering how exactly the west would kill itself in response to a virus you've got another thing coming. if you think that's the last thing coming, people are crazy. we have told china, just make sure someone gets sick and we will work ourselves into a panic frenzy and make sure we slaughter ourselves. it's pathetic. >> tucker: were you afraid of it? >> no. but that doesn't mean it's nothing. i'm not one of these people. i'm not saying that. it is a very real thing. >> tucker: of course. but i'm just wondering about your personal view of it. big on 39 years old. i don't have any fear of covid.o i don't have any fear of my kids getting covid or my wife getting covid. i don't understand why this is so controversial when you look at the people who have serious effects from covid. i'm not in any danger. i'm not getting vaccinated for something that i am in no danger for. my wife isn't. my kids dang sure aren't either. i can't believe we have to have this conversation with people.

why would i be afraid of it? even if i got it. okay, i will go lay in bed and have a fever for a couple of days and get up and go right back to work. that's what you do. i have a responsibility to provide. but i understand everybody who makes a living sitting at home and they can just zoom all their meetings in their pajamas and telling small business that you have to destroy everything you have worked for. you are by yourself sitting there in your hello kitty pajamas do in yourur show. that's nice but someone else lost everything. >> tucker: should men wearar hello kitty pajamas? >> whatever you are into. i'm not here to judge. it's the one you just said you didn't get vaccinated. i think that makes you a criminal. >> of course i am a criminal. i'm not telling people not to. get vaccinated if you want. i just think it's absurd how we pretend as if everybody has to. we have data now here we have a year of data showing who is in danger, was not in danger.

are we vaccinating people now for diseases we are not a danger for? if we are, i went to community college. a that is a new thing to me. i don't think you get vaccinated for something you are not in danger for. i if you are in y danger for it please. >> tucker: it does feel like we have set a new precedent here. we can force people to take a medicine they don't want or need.we >> we have set so many new precedents in the last year tucker, it's going to be endless. we told them we can force people to take's vaccines. we told people we can force you to close your business. i think we forget, i'm as guilty of this as anyone else appear we have governors and mirrors in the last year .2 this business and this business and say close close your doors. close your doors. oh, you can stay open. amazon, you are fine. but i have had this business for 30 years. sorry, you are out of business. that is a stunning place to be for the land of the free. >> tucker: very interesting guy. very smart. you can find his full episode on "tucker carlson today."

it's on foxnation.com. at the outset, we made a big last-minute change. rose mccowan has something to announce right after this. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> tucker: as we told you at the top right before we came on the air tonight that actress rose mcgowan wanted to come on to talk about something. we've never met rose mcgowan before but we are completely open minded. we just learned about somethingl with britney spears who we have not interviewed since she was literally a teenager. apparently she is under a conservatorship for the past 13 years and this has been in the news. flew under our radar, but it has been. and rose mcgowan has been watching it also and has thoughts about it. she joins us now. rose mcgowan, thanks so much for coming onn tonight. >> hi, tucker. nice to meet you too. i also have an open mind. >> tucker: my favorite quality as a first for his safety. i'm coming at this cold. i again haven't seen britney spears since 2003.

i just heard she has been under conservatorship. make the case, if you would. what is it and why is that bad or good? >> well, in my opinion and in many other's, imagine you are a 25-year-old young woman or young human who has been forced to perform since as long as she could walk to support her family. her father put her under a conservatorship at age 25. many in the media laughed and scorned her when she shaved her head.ia i lived in hollywood during that time and i made it my life's mission to tell all of you out there what so many of you really know deep down. that fame at hollywood and the media machine are rotten to the core. and they do hurt and they do damage. at age 25, her father and a judge ruled with many paid off doctor'san help that britney spears had dementia.

so, since then, she has gone on to do a five year in vegas. she has gone on a tour. what happened today is literally a cultural landmark moment. it is a culturalpe reset. she got to speak for the first time i believe in her life. what has been done to her is horrific. and i know it seems like why should we care about a rich pop princess, right? but i think it is deeper than that and i think it goes to what you talked about, which is the rock and the machine and how society also plays a part in a we weird form of oppression. it's the one man, you have pushed all my buttons, i have to say. the idea that the individual is crushed by forcing larger and deep down it really is rotten and people are treated as

disposable objects rather than as human beings with souls. i mean, that is on display every single day. pardon my ignorance, but quickly, conservatorship means she can't make basic life decisions for herself? >> absolutely none. she can make no decisions. when she sees her kids, what medicine she takes. she said today, britney spears said they put her on lithium. that is anat incredibly helpful drug for some, but a hard-core drug. she said she was doped out. i'm summarizing. she, i think is ready to blow the lid. she said today she is so angry it's insane. and i understand that kind i of rage after being -- sorry, go ahead. >> tucker: no, no, no, i didn't say anything. i'm listening intently. >> oh, sorry. so, the thing is, i was thehe first one to go on the record about harvey weinstein and that kind of sickness.

and the people that are truly putting your entertainment in your head. while we have all been entertained by britney spears she has been being tortured. and i know it seems like one person. but they have done this to women and humans and whistle-blowers and people they don't like. and like you said, tucker, the people, the monsters inuc power that control the puppets, not just her. but the message it sends to every girl or every boy out there i'm a are disposable and the elite can own you. >> tucker: so i think it matters. i do. i think the individual matters above all.er and if they can destroy one person, they can destroy everyone.. i know nothing but what you just told me.es but i think you make a really compelling case. i love that you care and i'm really glad that you came on tonight. rose mcgowan, thank you very much. >> i'm on it.to thank you, tucker. >> tucker: thank you.

we've got a lot more ahead. but first, in light of what we just heard, i'm not going to do this. our producer's teleprompter and like anchorman, i'm just reading what is there. they want to play a clip from 2,003 of me interviewing britney spears. so here it is. >> do you see photographers following you all the time? yeah.sp it's not all the time. kind of in l.a. there are a lot of photographers and stuff. but when i go to london, it's not as bad. then when i go overseas, i can kind of escape. ♪ ♪

there are reports and that joe biden >> tucker: there are reports tonight that joe biden president of the united states may have inadvertently paid for his son's drug fueled night with prostitutes at the chateau on sunset boulevard in los angeles. how's that for a spicy story. josh boswell is a senior news reporter at the dailymail.com based in the united states which all of a sudden has become one of the most reliable news outlets in the world. who saw that coming? she's we're happy he's joining us now. josh, thanks so much for coming on. what is this?co joe biden paid for a night at the chateau with cocaine and hook ers?thth >> thanks for having me on tucker, it's a crazy one. april 2018 hunter biden spent a month there in los angeles and it was a pretty debauched time. you can see from text documents

on his laptop that we've beenee investing that he had hired a prostitute, spent thousands of dollars there appear was taking crack cocaine, was watching porn there, and there were even some pretty crazyho photos of, you know, i want to be delicate in how i describe this, so, he had a picture of his man hood, and multiple m&m candies stacked along it. just some really weird stuff. yeah. and then after that month, he then moved to another hotel nearby, the jeremy in west hollywood, and it was there that he spent $25,000, wired it to another prostitute. he apparently overpaid, and she sent him back some of the money. he only meant to spend $8,000 on her. so while he's having this binge you see a text message appear from a former secret service agent, someone who used to serve joe biden and he's texting hunter at this hotel.

clearly he's concerned. he's not been able to get in touch with hunter for a while afternoon he says i'm coming up to your hotel room, i'm going to come into the room unlesss you respond now, you need to get back to me. and he says this is on celtic's account. that's very interesting because celtic is the code word that was used to refer to vice-president joe biden by the secret service. so we're left with the question okay, if this is celtic's account, what's on the account? is it the private security from the former secret service agent? is it the hotel room? is it the thousands of dollars that he wired to prostitutes? and that's the question we're left with that has not been answered by hunter or the white house as they refuse to answer our questions. >> because it's russian disinformation josh. i mean, it's all real, of course, as we said from the outset. >> yeah, it's ridiculous. we've had this brought back up again that, you know, russian disinformation.

but, in fact, you know, we we've gone, we've gone through it. you know, we've got some cybersecurity, cyber forensic experts to go through this laptop. >> tucker: yep and it's real. daily mail doing real journalism. i read it every day. thank you for what you're doing over there, i appreciate it. good to see you josh >> that's it for us. we wish you the best possible evening, even if you're not the chateau here's sean hannity. >> thank you tucker, busy night tonight on hannity, thank you for being with us. a bombshell new report. tucker was just talking about.t. the person thatt discovered that e-mail on hunter's laptop saw it with her own size, miranda devine at the new york postt wil join us and eric trump will weigh in on what you just heard and month according to these newly unearthed text messages oh hunter biden's laptop from that he will miranda found that appears joe biden inadvertently paid for hunter's wild bender with